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ATT Kaiser pricing and release update

This was posted in the $299 thread but its at the way back so I thought I would create a thread so people would have an easier time finding it. Apparently the guys at howard forums don't know jack.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/09/14/att-tilt-drops-some-knowledge-on-us/
$ 349 with 2 year sign up and data (though I imagine corp will be much cheaper)
release date is listed as late september in the docs.

Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?

magnamar said:
Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?
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Thats what I said, however they do mention it in the top paragraph. To be honest Ill still get it even if it doesn't have built in. All I do is put an at&t logo on my punching bag at home to take out my aggression LOL.

oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.

magnamar said:
oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.
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$549? I thought they were like $800?

I was saying the att one is not a bad price at 549. The htc unlocked one I got was 789.

man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??

projectpaki said:
man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??
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They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?

Wow, $800 HTC Kaiser it is! Screw that ugly nerfed ATT one.

zeek112 said:
They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?
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they just launched video calling.

I posted this over at Howard Forums...
There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.
-Mc

McHale said:
I posted this over at Howard Forums...
There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.
-Mc
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I dont think $700 is that cheap though. $600 maybe, I am curious to see what "group" means and will you be able to meet the minimum order in just IL.

I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.
They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.
Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.
-Mc
Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779.

McHale said:
I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.
They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.
Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.
-Mc
Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779.
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5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.

wpbear said:
5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.
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I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.
-Mc

Called ATT store by me and asked when they would have the tilt in stock, the guy put me on hold for 2 minutes and told me oct 1st. Surprised to hear he even knew about it and even more surprised to have a date they would have it in store.

Yup me too. i just went to the att store and asked them this afternoon and she said the same thing in october. color will remain the same and as already reported no front camera and so on.........

Some people are claiming that ATT in Manhattan and most of the New York city was selling the 8925 today.

why would u want to watch who u are talking to. if anything u cant lie to the wife when she wants to see where u are if she doesnt believe u .....

McHale said:
I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.
-Mc
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What do you mean by getting kicked off your data plan? i have been using the media max bundle for over a year with my treo and my 8525 with no problems. i have never paid the outrageous 60 for a pda data plan.
could you please clarify?
thanks

Best Kaiser Vendor?

Like many of you, I'm planning on buying an unlocked Kaiser. I'm hoping to create a thread packed with info about vendors, warranties, prices, etc. Bundled software is also a big issue--there are reports of Kaisers sans TomTom and I want to avoid that if possible.
Please tell us about your buying experiences!

MadMonkeyBoy Gadgets @ www.dweiniger.com
Excellent prices and service. His site may not look good, but he comes thru every time. Recommend him very, very highly.

I got my K-Jam from Mad Monkey Boy. Top notch seller. No complaints here and he kept us up to date constantly from distribution in Asia to his door.
I bought my Kaiser from XDA. Can't beat $680 and free shipping. Richard has answered every email promptly and professionally. If you're a frequent user of this site, this is my recommended way to go.
-Mc

McHale said:
I bought my Kaiser from XDA. Can't beat $680 and free shipping. Richard has answered every email promptly and professionally. If you're a frequent user of this site, this is my recommended way to go.
-Mc
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I agree with McHale 100% Richard has been outstanding to deal with and I also like to support this site. Doesn't hurt that the price is the lowest around either
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FireMedic05 said:
Like many of you, I'm planning on buying an unlocked Kaiser. I'm hoping to create a thread packed with info about vendors, warranties, prices, etc. Bundled software is also a big issue--there are reports of Kaisers sans TomTom and I want to avoid that if possible.
Please tell us about your buying experiences!
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check out http://www.egadgetdepot.com/ I bought both my TyTN and my new Kaiser there on day one, Amazing service and fast trun around shopping.
Stan the owner response to emails/Google Talk almost 24/7 and his prices are low WITH price match....

On order from XDA Store. Richard is prompt in responding to emails, and apologizes when he isn't.
The only problem with XDA Store is that in-stock indication can sometimes be inaccurate.

McHale said:
I got my K-Jam from Mad Monkey Boy. Top notch seller. No complaints here and he kept us up to date constantly from distribution in Asia to his door.
I bought my Kaiser from XDA. Can't beat $680 and free shipping. Richard has answered every email promptly and professionally. If you're a frequent user of this site, this is my recommended way to go.
-Mc
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When you say XDA I'm assuming that you mean this site. The price is currently around $800, how did you get such a great deal?

I found this one OK, with good prices both in auctions and 'buy it now'. Any experiences (positive/negative) from this vendor?
http://stores.ebay.com/INTEGRON-TECHNOLOGIES

i got mine from ebay vendor networkingrus. ships same day. i ordered mine Monday got it the next day.

FireMedic05 said:
When you say XDA I'm assuming that you mean this site. The price is currently around $800, how did you get such a great deal?
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You need to have a discount club membership - so in the end it actually comes out to $720. $680 for the phone, $40 for the club membership.

Superior Gadgets here. Was fast, shipping was upgraded free, he included car charger as well as screen protector. Tom Tom was not in the box but he provided me with a private link to download it.

I for one can vouch for egadgetdepot, bought my TyTN from there and now planning to get the kaiser. Stan does provide amazing customer service. He helped me get the screen issue get fixed all the way.

I used Superior Gadgets as well, Paul was very polite and communicated thru the whole process. I got the english version with TomTom, I did NOT get the car charger and screen protector. Paul said they were just comming in but they have never shipped as far as I know, that was a few weeks ago.

I purchased two Kaiser units fom store.xda-developers.com
They shipped relatively quick, at a very competitive price and arrived in good order.
They are having some startup pains, some accesories did not ship, and the in stock status was not up to the minute.
However Richard in their customer support has been very responsive and has quickly addressed every issue. When they get all the kinks resolved, they will be even better. I would not hesitate to purchase from them.

I can tell you who isn't a very good vendor to buy from and that is Elite Electronix. I bought my Kaiser and a 4 Gb SD card from them a month ago, Aug 31st to be exact, and I still have yet to recieve the SD card. Every time I email them to ask about the status of my order I have to email them at least 3 times to get a response out of them. The only good thing about them so far is that since I didn't get my kaiser on the first round they sent it next day shipping when their second batch came in.

Wizard Stolen=[

My 8125 got stolen today. I set it down in the little boxes u put ur keys and phones in while you workout. When i was done I found myself with no phone. Kind of sucks, dont have enough money to buy another smartphone, ill try nad check out ebay to see how cheap they can get.

sorry to hear mate, some people are scumbags! cant get something nice of their own so they steal it....
check ebay - some xda mini S' s (o2 uk wizards) go for £80?
so keep an eye and depending if you are willing to pay postage check out other international ebays.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MDA-Vario-Bra...oryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
personally i dont trust people who put other phone names to boost interest because it shows they are desperate to sell..
but still as an example

hey thanks, i actually just bought one for $85 new from guy on Craigslist.com.

bassplaya said:
My 8125 got stolen today. I set it down in the little boxes u put ur keys and phones in while you workout. When i was done I found myself with no phone. Kind of sucks, dont have enough money to buy another smartphone, ill try nad check out ebay to see how cheap they can get.
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the trick is to put a quid in a door and lock it

bassplaya said:
hey thanks, i actually just bought one for $85 new from guy on Craigslist.com.
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I hope that was a face-to-face sale, or else I wouldn't be suprised if you just lost $85 in addition to your stolen Wizard. Craigslist is notorious for mail scams and a lot riskier than ebay for mail items.

Olipro said:
the trick is to put a quid in a door and lock it
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Last time I put Quid in the Machine, They put up a sign that said "American Currency Only." Capitalist Scumbags!

sonus said:
I hope that was a face-to-face sale, or else I wouldn't be suprised if you just lost $85 in addition to your stolen Wizard. Craigslist is notorious for mail scams and a lot riskier than ebay for mail items.
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yes it was a face to face transaction. ive gone through way to many scams on that site, surprised to find out that this one wasnt.

3 Times Over
My phone got stolen 3 times last year (mugged each time). First was a Motorolla MPx200 (2am on the streets, stupid stupid stupid). Second was iMate SP5 (midday, but in the dodgiest part of town) and third was my iMate JAM (once again, midday, but relatively safe area). Cops caught up with the JAM pretty easily - it was probably the only JAM with WM5 in South Africa . It was already blacklisted though: oh well.
The first two devices were free (my boet works at M$ so he has regular throwaways) and the last only cost me R(rand) 1500 from a chap at work. My new K-JAM was a bit more expensive, but very well worth it!!! Got TNT running on it, and I'm kinda grateful that the first 3 devices got stolen - I am so happy with the K-JAM.
South Africa, the country of crime. Bout time I wrote a client to track the device and bake it in a ROM. I wonder what APIs google maps mobile uses to find out what tower you are at: would be a kicker tool and much more complicated than the average mugger can circumvent.

How much is a Vodafone branded Kaiser worth?

Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks

Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.

Jozer99 said:
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Hmmm...I agree with some of what you say about the Atoms now after doing some more research.
One thing that's struck me is the customer service feedback about the Atom's manufacturers. Very few have anything nice to say about the service they received if something went wrong with their device. I'd be in fear of ever needing them.
The main things that have attracted me to the Atom phones so far is the use of Intel Xscale chips, better video support and the use of Sirfstar III chipsets for GPS. I don't need a high spec camera so I'm not bothered by the lack of high pixel capture.
In my experience of using old HTC devices (Universal, Magician) and some new ones (Trinity / P3600 and Kaiser), the older ones seemed faster for some reason. I don't know for sure but the Intel architecture seems better than the Qualcomm.
Also, the Sirfstar III GPS hardware wipes the floor with Qualcomm's equivalents in my experience and doesn't need QuickGPS to get a very fast lock in a built up city like London where I live.
Why did HTC start using these dodgy Qualcomm chips?
I'm still undecided...I just hate waiting with computers / PDAs etc...They should just work, and work fast. Maybe I'm asking for too much.

Anymore opinions?

You in the UK? Is the V1615 on contract?
Not impressed by those Atoms...

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Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!

flashy said:
That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case

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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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I was gonna say! the kaiser isnt that bad mate, i havent come accross one issue with regards to graphics, plus, got a kiddies psp for games!!, sat nav works faultlessly, good quality phone, my battery life is fine. Keep it
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.

flashy said:
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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No it's not - it's 100% your property, and your problem. That's not conditional on anything. The contract debt is separate - you owe them the value of that regardless of what you do with the phone. Sell it, keep it, give it back to them, you still owe the contract sum whatever you do.

selling phone
sell htc
wait 4/5 months
go get sony xperia ..
simple
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have a look at the glofish 800 series

Best Place To Buy A Touch Diamond

Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG

Plenty of places in the UK to buy them from, if you had done a search you would have found a thread that listed all the places in UK that are selling them and they are uk spec.
But for you ill name a few:
www.expansys.com now have the official uk spec Diamonds
www.clove.co.uk
www.play.com
www.totalpda.co.uk
www.powerupmobile.com
www.htcdirect.co.uk
those are your best bets...think Expansys is based in Manchester but dont know if they allow you to go there and pick up the phone...best to ring them i suppose.

I would recommend Play.com. Never had any problems with them and at the moment it's only £399.99 with free delivery. Others sell it for about £435 or £440.

Yeah, sorry, should have done a search, but battery was dying on the laptop and no plug in sight!
Anyway, thanks for the links guys. I did heard that expansys were selling non official versions and thats one reason I asked, I have used them before but for nothing really as expensive as this.
Thats really cheap for Play, I may used them since I have an account with them...somewhere!
Now I will have the agonising wait and ensuing dissapointment that when I wake up the postman hasn't brought it its going to be a LONG week!

vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html

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vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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Woah. If they don't have some super secret locking technology we've not seen until now, that could be a SERIOUSLY GOOD bargain....

harrysaab said:
vodafone gona sell it for £230 pay as you go locked on voda...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4104.html
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The general consensus is that this is only if you're a business customer buying an additional handset for your account.
Surely if most places are selling it for £400+ Vodafone won't be giving them away with no contract?!
I saw the eBay one with the guy saying no GPS too - and got a bit worried about my pre order one. I actually emailed him and asked about it. He replied saying it was GPS Ready, but needed additional hardware. After a bit of research I emailed him back again saying I was sure it definately had it built in - within another day the auction had closed early!
Whether he'd done a quick sale, or realised his error - who knows?!
Play is the best price - unless you can get a bargain on eBay. Watch out for 'Next Day' sellers whos small print says a week+ unless you pay extra postage!

WARNING!!! if you buy from play.com in the UK, you'll have to pay VAT tax as the unit will probably be held up in customs.. reason being, Play.com ships from a tax free zone.
It's clearly stated in their terms & conditions that the customer is responsible for taxes. Read the fine print!!

2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...

If it is a USA order
If you are in the US, then the best place to buy the phone is from Ryan at Negri Electronics. I had a problem with the first two phones (the first was a power issue, the second was wifi). I emailed them in the morning, and by the afternoon I had a UPS overnight tracking order. They included return labels, and it was no questions asked. I have bought all my luxry phones starting back at the Nokia 8800 and up til now (yes I have a addiction for cell phones). NEVER HAD A SINGLE ISSUE! The Diamond also registered on the HTC site. The phone is shrink wrapped in the retail package (he has a network, and actually travels to get the product on or before release that are not grey's). Price my be higher or lower but not by much. I trully think its worth it, because you don't have to wonder about what your are getting or when. They ship the next business day (I gotta give them credit on their speed and customer service. The answer emails right away, and phone calls are 99% answered, and messages are returned immediately.
Heres the direct link: DIAMOND- http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-unlocked-p-1506.html
DIAMOND PRO: http://www.negrielectronics.com/htc-touch-pro-p-1530.html
Desktop CRADLE: http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-diamond-desktop-cradle-g300-p-1526.html
Mine is perfect. They really have their business together.
PS: This is not an advertisement, this is my honest opinion. I have made purchase from expansys (paid for overnight, got it a week later).

Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?

leaskovski said:
Do we know when UK networks are gonna start selling these on contracts?
Im assuming all of them are branding this phone?
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Tmobile will be doing them from end of the month from what i have heard..as for voda, orange and o2 they will be carrying it but dont really know when...possibly July??.
As for branding??..yep you can be 110% sure that they will be all branded to some extent. As usual Tmobile will make sure its locked to their network and probably Orange. Voda and o2 will probably sell it unlocked but with their branding on it.

happyguy82 said:
2ndly, I called HTC UK the other day and they told me play.com isn't an authorised dealer so you won't get full UK warranty. I'm serious.. a girl at HTC told me...
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I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?

Diamond
DanGlee said:
Hi,
This is my first post here, but the site is great and I've been coming back here for about 2 weeks while trying to decide if I should buy a diamond and I have to say the people, reviews and discussions have certainly swayed my choice into getting one. It was touch and go (pardon the pun) for a while after some initial bad reviews, but since the ROM update it seems everybody is a lot happier! I know it will take a bit of tweaking, but I'm a S/W engineer, so its nothing I'm afraid of, but it will be my first WM device, so I'm a little scared...
I nearly opted for the iPhone, but its a brick, if not a pretty cool device, but I want something that I can put in my pocket and use as a normal phone... I have an iPod for music and videos, a phone is a phone (but the GPS rocks)
Anyway, I digress, I do have only 2 questions and the first one is pretty redundant from reading this forum, but here goes:
I saw a Touch Diamond for sale on eBay and the guy selling it said that he was selling it because he was disappointed because when he came to use the GPS it was a lie and that he needed an extra component and had to carry something else around? Whats all this about. I did freak a little when I read in all the spec sheets that it was GPS "READY"... what does READY mean? I assume it comes with it all from reading the reviews.
Second question, since my mind is pretty made up and I will be getting one, where is the best place to buy one (for the UK, and UK spec) I'm not looking for cheapness, as i know they are knew and average is around £450ish (inc VAT and Delivery) but dunno where to get one from (Not eBay anyway) any advice on the best online shop, or if anybody knows of any shops that sell them (in Manchester) that would be great.
Thanks for any help in advance!
DG
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It is GPS ready. Try http://www.networkingrus.com

p3eps said:
I bought mine from Devicewire - and when I registered it with HTC - it only says I have a one year warranty. I thought UK devices were supposed to have 2 years?
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Really??? hmm... call HTC and ask them I guess...

Mine shows up as 1 year as well... but with the following message:
Note: Your POP (Proof of Purchase) determines your warranty period. If you cannot provide your POP, your product will be warranted within the above period.
any ideas?? am I still entitled to 2 years warranty??