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hi guys
I have Att tilt and since 3 days a go my phone keep turning on by it self. any ideas how to fix this? Thanks.
i'm defnitely sure u need to call in an exorcist. for the time being, pls place the phone within a ring of garlic cloves
It's probably the instant messenger receiving an SMS message with someone signing on/off or you getting a message.
if you are using a case with a magnet in it it will cause it to turn on like if you were sliding it open to fix this download kaiser tweaks and turn off the option to turn on when slide open or keep away from magnet cases
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steve960 said:
if you are using a case with a magnet in it it will cause it to turn on like if you were sliding it open to fix this download kaiser tweaks and turn off the option to turn on when slide open or keep away from magnet cases
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This is indeed the only thing i can imagine is happening. Strong radiowaves can turn on/off devices and even uses them..... Just to give a exemple, I work on a warship and we had a 250KW powercable with some leaks in the isolation. This causes some of the other equipment to power on and even use it while all safeties were still on!
thanks guys for your help. i will try to disable the sliding thing. i hope it works.
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My brother wanted to give me his old Wizard holster which closes with a magnet. I told him the magnet might cause my screen to turn on. Sure enough, as soon as the phone got near the holster the screen came on and switched to landscape just as it would if I had flipped out the keyboard.
Guess that's why my Kaiser came with a holster that uses velcro.
This has been driving me nuts since I got my Tilt! The slightest sliding movement of my screen would wake the phone up.
Thanks for the easy fix with the Kaiser Tweak setting!
Hi guys,
I did the Kaiser Tweak setting but still same issue from before. every like 5 to 10 min my phone comes on by itself.
any other sugestions?
now im having the same problem. wtf is going on. no magnets near my phone. it sucks lol
I have searched for solutions for the past 2 days but cant find one, if i missed it or this post is redundant , i apologize in advance.
Now my tilt is driving me crazy. It started last week when The touch screen wasnt working, but i fixed it by doing a couple of soft resets. then all the sudden, everytime i slide my keyboard out, the touch screen would stop responding. this went on for a day, then yesterday, when i tired to use the keyboard, the screen went blank, like the light died or something. but when i put it back on portrait, the screen would light up again.
A few moments later, the touch was responding, tried to use the keypad then the screen went blank..tried soft resets about 5 times and uninstalled all recent added programs (skyfire) ..finally the screen was working but the touch still wasnt working.
So this morning, i had the bright idea to do a hard reset....dumbest idea ever cos now its stuck at the screen where i have to "tap the screen to set up your wm device" and guess what..the touch screen isnt responding
plz i really need help with this. all so , i have a broken tilt.., well lcd screen is cracked...can i try to dismantle both tilts and replace the screens?
Ok, i used Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment, but if i cant use the touch screen or the keyboard, the phone is pretty much useless for sending any information or making calls..is there a way to fix this?
I have had this same issue with my tilt. I could use the scroller on the left side of the unit to navigate but no touch screen. Both times that this has happened to me I removed the screen protector that I had on and restored a backup that I had on my storage card (I run a backup weekly). This has always fixed my issue. You could try another hard reset, not sure if that will help but do you get any lights on the keyboard when you slide it open? Is your tilt less than a year old because there is a manufacturer's warranty too.
Jim
when i slide the keyboard, i do get lights on the keyboard but not on the screen...it just goes dead..but when i slide it back in, the screen comes to life.
I cant do another hard reset cos i have to input the "1,2,3,4" code.
Also , the phone just got out of the 1yr warranty this month...awesome
I want to buy a replacement screen with a new digitizer but i need to be sure that is the problem.. ive searched for this keyboard problem but still have no answers
Now I'm having the same issue, touch not responding. I first noticed it about two days ago, when I slide the keyboard out, I could type just fine, but when I went to send the message the touch screen wouldnt work, so I'd close the keyboard and it would work. well yesterday it stopped working all together, so i used my d-pad and did a sprite restore and it started working again. But then On my way home i hit the lock button, and it stopped working after that, and I couldn't get it unlocked. I used the inner soft key to hit the first part of unlock, but then I couldnt ever figure which button to hit to get the on screen part of the unlock. So I had no choice but to do a hard reset, and just like highoct now I'm stuck on the stylus setup , and the touch still doesnt respond. does anybody esle have any suggestions ? Thanks in advance.
You can use the Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment.
If the touch screen is the only problem, you can do one of two things if you are no longer under warranty;
1. Fix it yourself. You will have to buy a new Lcd screen with new digitizer at ebay and use this site http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/ to open up your tilt and replace it
2. Send it to a repair shop, I had two tilts and sent the one with the broken screen to www.missionrepair.com got it back in a within a week, $89.00 plus shipping
here is the link : http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Cell_Phone_Repairs_and_Upgrades_s/321.htm
I still have the same tilt with the original problem..havent found a solution yet
Oh yeah, I did manage to do a hard reset again, but now the screen is just white. I can hear the sound of it booting up but it still has a white screen. I tired going to the Bootloader screen ( Camera and power at the same time)...still have the white screen. I believe its a hardware problem but i don't know what it is...any ideas?
Ok now I've done a hard flash, using the same HTC kaiser rom 6.1 and it fixes the problem for a little bit, until the first time I slide out the keyboard , then the screen stops working again, any suggestions ?
iPhone 3G Screen Repair...finally an affordable answer
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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Sounds like a plug for your website to me... Last I checked this wasn't an iPhone site.
Chill0987 said:
If you are reading this, you are most likely in the same dilemma I was in. I dropped my phone and picked it up only to find out that the glass screen was cracked. I took my broken phone to apple and found out it would cost me $199. I then was told about iPhone 3G Screen Repair. They offered the iPhone 3G glass screen repair for only 69.99. They repaired my phone the same day they received it. I was very happy with the repair!
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Does this look like an apple website? did i say i had an iphone? GET OUT OF HERE!!!
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Sounds like a plug for your website to me... Last I checked this wasn't an iPhone site.
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And thats his only post, its spam. jerk him outta here
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highoct said:
You can use the Code Factory's Remote screen alignment to bypass the alignment.
If the touch screen is the only problem, you can do one of two things if you are no longer under warranty;
1. Fix it yourself. You will have to buy a new Lcd screen with new digitizer at ebay and use this site http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_kaiser/ to open up your tilt and replace it
2. Send it to a repair shop, I had two tilts and sent the one with the broken screen to www.missionrepair.com got it back in a within a week, $89.00 plus shipping
here is the link : http://www.missionrepair.com/Mission_Repair_AT_T_Cell_Phone_Repairs_and_Upgrades_s/321.htm
I still have the same tilt with the original problem..havent found a solution yet
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I know this thread is a bit old but was searching d forum for possible solutions cos yesterday i developed the same exact problem on my kaiser for no apparent reason!..flashing it hasnt helped and now im stuck on the wm setup screen..when u say u still have the same tilt with the original problem do you mean that the repair was unsuccessful? have you tried reparing it yourself? Thanks
I just started to have the same problem, it started out with the touch not responding (which a few soft resets fixed) and now the whole screen doesn't function unless i slid out the keyboard or if i jiggle it around and open it a couple of time i can usually find a spot that allows the screen to function with the keyboard closed. If i leave it in this position for about an hour the touch starts responding again, wtf. This is very inconvenient because as soon as you move the screen even just a little it will take me like half an hour to find the position which allows the phone to function.
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I just started to have the same problem, it started out with the touch not responding (which a few soft resets fixed) and now the whole screen doesn't function unless i slid out the keyboard or if i jiggle it around and open it a couple of time i can usually find a spot that allows the screen to function with the keyboard closed. If i leave it in this position for about an hour the touch starts responding again, wtf. This is very inconvenient because as soon as you move the screen even just a little it will take me like half an hour to find the position which allows the phone to function.
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same thing happened to me 3 days ago. touchscreen has just stopped responding.
it still worked when i slided my keyboard out, but only when it was out. then i realized it won't work at all (!) after soft reset. however, i could make it work again like that when i did the soft reset with the keyboard out. weird.
i tried searching, and decided to make a hard reset, flash a new rom, etc, etc., but no more touchscreen. at all. the device doesn't feel any touch in any case. nothing. i bypassed the beggining tap here with the storage card trick. (i've read it somewhere on the forum).
now i can only use my kaiser with the hw buttons, the keyboard, and that's it. no touch. really weird. please if anyone has any updates, solutions, anything, post. sniff sniff
mine doesn't have anything on the screen unless i slide it out, if i have it closed anymore, it just doesn't work at all.
try this:
ive just replaced my barely functioning lcd by myself, after living with it sometimes registered the stylus jumping around when i used the stylus. but before you change your lcd, here is a couple of tips for you guys:
1) try sliding out the keyboard. hold one finger in the middle of the keyboard and another on the back side of the phone, and squeeze hard, but careful. it might be that the flat cable between the screen part and the main part has loosened a bit from its socket, this could help it back in.
2) try sqeezing the hang up button hard. this might help the lcd-cable correctly back in its socket if it is loose.
im saying that this MIGHT help, if youre lucky. most likely you have to open the phone and squeeze the connectors back in yourself, or actually change the entire lcd. anyways, let me know what works for you!!
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ive just replaced my barely functioning lcd by myself, after living with it sometimes registered the stylus jumping around when i used the stylus. but before you change your lcd, here is a couple of tips for you guys:
1) try sliding out the keyboard. hold one finger in the middle of the keyboard and another on the back side of the phone, and squeeze hard, but careful. it might be that the flat cable between the screen part and the main part has loosened a bit from its socket, this could help it back in.
2) try sqeezing the hang up button hard. this might help the lcd-cable correctly back in its socket if it is loose.
im saying that this MIGHT help, if youre lucky. most likely you have to open the phone and squeeze the connectors back in yourself, or actually change the entire lcd. anyways, let me know what works for you!!
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well, i tried both tips, but they didn't work. i'd like to say a big thanks anyway!
then i grabbed the kaiser service manual and took my device apart into pieces. i reconnected pretty much all the cables and stuff, but still no touchy. any further ideas?
you should try replacing the screen. im happy to say that this screen from this seller on eBay worked for me: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250539984183
look here for dissasembly video: http://www.fonlogix.tv/tiltlow.wmv
(to save it to desktop right click link and "save target as")
thanks for your help, i've just ordered a new screen! phew, i hope it's gonna work
Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
Actually you could either turn on the screen lock so that even if it turns on, it's locked and none of the buttons or screen touching will do anything, and the machine will turn itself off after a while.
Or,
you can install BSB tweaks and set it so that the phone doesn't turn on unless you tell it to.
Most of the time it's not the device, it's the user. Especially obvious when reading user reviews and most users claim features don't exist when in fact they never found them. Or phone is capable of certain things, but the user is not only unaware, they are angry the features are not there.
GET TO KNOW YOUR DEVICE or use available tweaks and information
use a loud ringtone, use vibrate, use a screenlock program... (S2U2 is excellent, but you may find it complex).
Or extend the phone ring time before it goes into voicemail (that's in phone settings I recall)
The phone is not perfect, but it can very easily be configured to avoid accidental answering or not noticing the call in the first place. That said, the standard options are not good...
To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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To be fair, I'm not stupid, but I am pretty ignorant when it comes to stuff like this. Bear in mind I've been using an old flip phone for the majority of my life, and I've spent a good amount of time looking through my X1 for a setting that would make my phone work better. I've found nothing that would keep the touch screen off for incoming calls or texts, which genuinely irks me.
Yes I tried locking the phone for a while, but it's a pain getting a call and then not being able to answer in time because I notice it late, pull it out, and then have to unlock it to answer. Also, locking the phone didn't stop the touch screen from turning on and pressing random buttons... it was just that with it locked there were no buttons to press except the digit code and I might be right to guess that my phone would lock me out completely if I randomly hit the wrong buttons enough times. Also the backlight was draining the battery and it was overheating anyway. It didn't make a difference.
I also spent a generous amount of time on the internet looking for solutions, but as I've said, no one else seems to have had my problem, so I was certain I wouldn't find a solution until I asked for myself. Believe me, I wouldn't have posted anything here if I'd found one.
Anyway I'll try "tweaking" it as was suggested. Thanks for the help.
(Also bear in mind having to "tweak" a device DOES suggest it was badly designed in the first place, which was kind of my point. Paul C knows what I'm talkin' 'bout.)
Peace.
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First of all tweaking does not mean a phone was badly designed, tweaking or modding gives the option to add, remove, or change anything you want in your phone. With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones. And what you are saying makes no freaking sense. How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol? How about you give more info on what rom you are using becuase what your saying makes no dam sense.
Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
With your logic every smart phone was badly design becuase everybody tweaks their phones.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
How can you not answer a call when your phone is lock, the incoming call pops up on the screen? How is your phone turning on and pressing random buttons when it's locked lol?
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The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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Oh, come on, man. It was my first smart phone. If I wasn't giving it the benefit of the doubt that I COULD do something about my issues, I would've taken the phone back. Instead I posted here and asked, because I was fed up using the search function trying to figure out what I was doing.
I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm GLAD my issue can be fixed, and thank you. I'm just saying. I didn't know, and the result of not being able to figure it out was me being upset with the device.
Do you want to continue this pointless argument or can we just drop it now?
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5? If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead? Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off? Also maybe the latest version of the lock app S2U2 V2.41 might solve your problems. I've had my phone for 8 month's and have never experienced what you are saying or herd of but then again I don't keep my phone on a beltclip I keep it in my pocket. It sounds like S2U2 2.41 should help because it gives access to those options you want to change in the S2U2 settings.
This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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This seems to be a rom problem. My phone does nothing you described. After the screen goes off it does not react to any touching of the screen at all. When its in standy mode (screen off) and a call comes in it reactivates the screen and the call can be answered either by touching the corresponding area of the screen or by pressing the green hardware button. The same behaviour can be witnessed when I lock the phone prior to the screen turning off. So I can say I have never experienced problems like you. My phone runs the latest stock rom for Switzerland (German) and is not branded.
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My phone is the same way but I'm on a custom rom. He might have to flash is phone if nothing else works.
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I'm sure most people don't tweak their phone to fix rudimentary issues that cripple the usability of the phone.
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
Faceeat said:
The screen turns on regardless of whether or not it's locked. It rings, and the screen turns on, but instead of allowing you to answer right away, it prompts you for the pin to unlock it. So I CAN answer a call, just sometimes not fast enough because of factors I already specified.
And if I'm not aware I'm being called, when I miss the call the screen stays on in my belt clip, and every time the screen is touched, the backlight remains on. Since it keeps being touched, it never shuts off. And the only buttons on the screen are the pinpad numbers, so it just hits those instead. This is how I got the phone.
So, since whether I lock it or not I get the same annoyances, I choose not to lock it.
Also I have yet to find a tweak that keeps the phone's touch response off for receiving calls, and turns off the screen entirely when or if the call is missed. I would really benefit from something like that to prevent it opening random programs or texting landlines with "aufgfdjkw"...
I'll keep looking.
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As mentioned previously there are many alternitive unlocking programs
Slide to unlock 2 (S2u2) is very good, customisable and free.
Here is the website http://ac-s2.com/ you can also find threads about it on XDA Developers.
I am currently using Throttle lock, Provides extra security without having to use pins, customisable, and free here is the website http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/Products/ThrottleLock/throttlelock-09
Once again you can find threads about it on XDA Developers.
to use either of these programs, just download the .cabs from the websites, transfer them to your phone and click on them to begin installation.
hope that helps.
For the 2nd time what rom are you using? 6.1 or 6.5?
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Everyones different, every one wants something to work a little differently.
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Yes, but I'm pretty sure no one wants their phone wasting batteries.
If it keeps being touched on your belt clip why not just keep your phone in your pocket instead?
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What difference would that make? I keep other things in my pocket that are probably more likely to hit the touch screen. Besides, I got the phone before I got a belt clip. It was in my pocket first. I thought the belt clip would make it better. Since it doesn't I still prefer the belt clip for the phone's accessibility.
Also what is your backlight power time settings, like what is the time intervals of when you screen shuts off?
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On that screen in the settings there's an option to turn off the device after a certain amount of time. Before, when I was in those settings, I had it unchecked, thinking it would turn the phone off completely. But it does exactly what I want—it disables the touch screen after a minute.
Still, that's not a perfect solution, but it helps a lot. That plus the lock app should make it well within working standards. Thank you.
SORRY FOR WASTING YOUR TIME GUYS. I take back what I said. I'm now an enlightened individual. I can build rainbows with my mouth.
Faceeat said:
Is there ANYTHING I can do to make this device work in a sensible way?
I mean I find it deeply unsettling that I have yet to see anyone else complain about the huge design flaw this phone has.
That being, when I receive a call, the touch screen activates at the slightest touch. That doesn't make sense because I don't tie it to my wrist... I carry it in my pocket or my belt clip and even in my belt clip it presses random spots on the touch screen. I want it to not do that, first of all. In fact I don't want the phone to even turn on touch activation until I give it clearance to turn on, because otherwise it will stay there and randomly press buttons until I check my phone and realize someone called me an hour ago.
Because that's the thing—I need it on vibrate a vast majority of the time, I can't feel it vibrate but it'll open random programs or do random crap. I can always tell because whenever I decide to reach down and check my phone I feel it overheating, and I think, "Yup. Someone called me and I didn't hear or feel it vibrate." That's actually ridiculous. That's severely headache inducing at how completely backwards it is without the option to change it in settings. At least not that I've seen. As I've said, no one else is complaining about it... so what are you guys doing?
I'm sorry but as I said, this phone drives me nuts. I can't help but feel angry just by talking about it.
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Maybe a magnet on your belt phone keeper
turns on the phone...........
Recently I also discovered that keeping X1 close to a second mobile phone MAKES X1 randomly open apps by itself....
Crazy but true!!!!
Once somebody calls you and quits,
without your reaction there's no way you can activate anything if your phone is locked with a code....
A short press of the power button suspends the screen? lol.
I was about to say it but sean0r beat me to it (by weeks lol)
I felt the same thing when I first bought the phone (1-2 hours).
I just usually set my backlight to turn off after 10-30 secs. (Settings->Power->Advance Tab)
And I also don't use the lock feature since I think it's more of a hassle then to just turn the screen off (power button, like sean0r said) then turn the screen on again when I'm about to use it. It basically does the same thing like the lock/unlock button, it help prevents unwanted screen touch, only I feel it's way way more faster than the unlock button (even if you configured the lock/unlock button, to lock quicker).
And since you're new, if you haven't used any of the great custom ROMs you should definitely try it!! Read the guides carefully though, I warn you it might be addictive =D
The custom ROMs and this great XDA community is what made me keep this phone despite this phone's poor poor poor poor poor...I mean horrible build quality! Sony should thank these guys...seriously...
Sorry for bumping an old thread...
I'll rebump - flash Mr. Rusch's Touch X ROM if you are a noob. It is slick, stable, and well configured by default.
It isn't the flashiest, but it is stable and convenient. I highly recommend for beginners.
Sounds like you're using the actual security lock with password, try just using the keylock where you slide it to use it. (Like iphone)
regardless, I think you should flash energie rom on your phone.
Ive flashed many many roms including spikegottis, 826x, and even various Titanium roms but energie is the best overall for speed, apps and reliability
Anyone else having problems with the sensitivity on fast scrolling? Seems to not be as smooth or compared to the iPhone 6 and HTC One M8 I have been playing with...It's almost too sensitive or something, I can't quite put my finger on it.
Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
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Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
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Basically, yes...Have you noticed this too?
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I can't quite put my finger on it.
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y2jdmbfan said:
Basically, yes...Have you noticed this too?
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There is an earlier topic about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/swipe-issues-t2888154
The phone has an extra-sensitive touch screen because it has a "glove mode", and I'm thinking the effect of the technology for that glove mode isn't completely suppressed when the glove mode is disabled, so the touch screen would still be slightly more sensitive than those of other phones, even when glove mode is disabled.
If glove mode is enabled, the touch screen is so incredibly sensitive that without gloves, it will register a touch when you hover your finger about a millimetre above the touch screen.
I found that for me it helps to use "lighter" and shorter swipes. Also after a swipe lifting my finger a bit higher off the screen than I was used to.
Some people might always have been doing shorter and lighter swipes, hence not everyone is experiencing the problem. It's also been said on the Xperia support forum that not all units use the same glass for the front; some use "gorilla glass", others use "dragontrail" glass. That could also be influencing the touch screen sensitivity/behaviour.
I've adjusted my swiping habits relatively quickly and now I get the bounce back effect only once in a while.
I do hope that Sony comes with a firmware fix to compensate for the over-sensitivity though.
degraaff said:
Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
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hi, is it normal? happen to my unit also.. quite annoying i can tell.. different with my TX..
Go into developer options and enable "Show touches", perhaps touch the screen a few times then turn off show touches.
Sorts it out for me! I was having a nightmare swiping down to select words in Fleksy.
This workaround will do for me until Sony fix it properly!
LadFromWales85 said:
Go into developer options and enable "Show touches", perhaps touch the screen a few times then turn off show touches.
Sorts it out for me! I was having a nightmare swiping down to select words in Fleksy.
This workaround will do for me until Sony fix it properly!
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I really wish there was a way to turn down the sensitivity. During typing, I frequently have screen presses register as very short swipes, which is incredibly irritating, as I then have to backspace and delete two words.
Not really helping you, but this shows how sensitive the z3c display is:
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Not really helping you, but this shows how sensitive the z3c display is:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBE0I2zSfcs
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Touch screens usually respond to metal. The screen of my Z2 tablet does.
My screen is so sensitive I can operate it using my leg... through the pocket. I saw in Z1 and Z2 threads that there is a config file that can be adjusted, however I'd have to root in order to do that, and I don't want to risk losing my warranty (esp. not when reading about glass breaking by itself).
It's not a massive problem -- all it takes is switching off "double tap to wake" and camera launch button. But those are features that are useful. On the other hand, having my phone suddenly switch Torch on, call a random person in my phonebook or reorder icons on the launcher desktop isn't all that exciting either -- not a fan of surprises.
Has anyone else found the Z3 Compact screen too sensitive? (Glove mode is off, obviously.)
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My screen is so sensitive I can operate it using my leg... through the pocket. I saw in Z1 and Z2 threads that there is a config file that can be adjusted, however I'd have to root in order to do that, and I don't want to risk losing my warranty (esp. not when reading about glass breaking by itself).
It's not a massive problem -- all it takes is switching off "double tap to wake" and camera launch button. But those are features that are useful. On the other hand, having my phone suddenly switch Torch on, call a random person in my phonebook or reorder icons on the launcher desktop isn't all that exciting either -- not a fan of surprises.
Has anyone else found the Z3 Compact screen too sensitive? (Glove mode is off, obviously.)
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On my previous phone (xperia acro s) it often happened that my leg messed with the phone when the screen went on for the alarm going off in my pocket. It was really annoying. I was always afraid that some important settings changed without knowing it.
My screen is so sensitive that I the last couple of weeks only have managed to send a few sms without having to delete several words that are written wrong...!
The speeddialer is also terrible and often leads to wrong contacts...
This phone is by far the worst phone I have ever had regarding these issues!
Is this a sign of a faulty phone or can you relate to these problems as well?
Is there a solution???
My speed dial wasn't working out of the box. Had to make a factory reset, that fixed it. Sensitivity isn't interfering with my writing though. My previous phone was a bit bigger so I had to get used to writing on a smaller keyboard. But why would touchscreen sensitivity be an issue when writing anyway? Are you using a swipe keyboard?
No I'm just using it out of the box settings...? I can see swipe is enabeled but I text normal... I have had to disable autocorrecting words when I write... It is really strange... I have had many different smartphones over the last 15 years and this is by far the most responsive ever tending to be useless because of the many mistakes I make during calls and sms...
I never had any issues what so ever with my M7...?
I have just disabled "motioninput" (roughly translated from danish...) under Xperia-texting and this seems to have helped alot!!!
I'm on the same boat - it's too sensitive compared to my m8. Hoping for update to fix it
You really should try to do what I did and disable motioninput! It really helps ??
I'm on the same boat - it's too sensitive compared to my nexus 4. Hoping for update to fix it
I go into running apps and force stop com.sonymobile.touchscreen.touchfilter.tfpss and it seems to be a little better, still sensitive but at least no bouceback. I should try pm blocking it.
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I go into running apps and force stop com.sonymobile.touchscreen.touchfilter.tfpss and it seems to be a little better, still sensitive but at least no bouceback. I should try pm blocking it.
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I've tried this as well, but unfortunately no change, I still get bounce-backs when I don't use particularly light and short swipes.
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
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Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
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I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat