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Some people say Kaiser can manage up to 8GB and some say it can manage
up to 16GB all I have is 4GB and its more then enough. But a friend wants to send me one and asked me what is would prefer. I would go for 16GB but I don't know if I can use it. I have a AT&T Tilt.
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Hi and welcome around,
searching a little bit around may have answered your question .
The Kaiser definitely supports µSDHC up to 16 GB. As soon as 32 GB comes up, it will also support it.
Got a 16Gb in mine. Runs great. Just got to find stuff to fill it now!
What 16 GB are you using?
Edris said:
Some people say Kaiser can manage up to 8GB and some say it can manage
up to 16GB all I have is 4GB and its more then enough. But a friend wants to send me one and asked me what is would prefer. I would go for 16GB but I don't know if I can use it. I have a AT&T Tilt.
Thank You.
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Thanks Guys.
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What 16 GB are you using?
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I also have a 16 gb micro sdhc card - got it a couple of weeks ago. It's a sandisk, and works great. I've had no problem whatsoever getting more than half filled already!
Edris said:
Some people say Kaiser can manage up to 8GB and some say it can manage
up to 16GB all I have is 4GB and its more then enough. But a friend wants to send me one and asked me what is would prefer. I would go for 16GB but I don't know if I can use it. I have a AT&T Tilt.
Thank You.
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I am also using a 16GB sandisk. It works great and have no problems. The only thing I will say, as with any flash memory, is that mine is just below 15GB. I personally think that the labeled amount should be the minimum amount available. Sorry for that... go for the 16GB!
Where are you guys buying these 16GB cards? I can't even find them on any of the major retailers' sites. I'm curious to see how much they run. 16Gb used to be a pipe dream to me. heck, the 4 gig I'm currently using used to be such a pipe dream. I remember when I paid $350 for a 1 gig SD card...
16 gigs would be lovely though. I could load up on music.
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Where are you guys buying these 16GB cards? I can't even find them on any of the major retailers' sites. I'm curious to see how much they run. 16Gb used to be a pipe dream to me. heck, the 4 gig I'm currently using used to be such a pipe dream. I remember when I paid $350 for a 1 gig SD card...
16 gigs would be lovely though. I could load up on music.
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Here are 2 threads dicussing where to find them: here and here.
I got my 16 gb sandisk card on ebay, for $52.00 delivered. I've bought a number of accessories for my tilt off ebay. It's a good place to buy things, as long as you buy from a seller with a really good feedback rating.
16 GB SanDisk Best Buy $100.00
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16 GB SanDisk Best Buy $100.00
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You can get far better prices than that like this http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-16GB-...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1230674794&sr=8-2
16GB MicroSDHC Class 6 card (DRATS!) - ONLY $24.99 (s&h FREE)
The best bang for your buck right now for a Class 6 MicroSDHC card, is the 16GB made by ADATA - from Newegg.com:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211300
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What SPEED is the Tilt able to handle for the MicroSDHC cards? There are Class 2, 4, and 6 - Class 6 being the fastest. However, if the Tilt is only able to transfer up to or slightly below the speed of a Class 4 card, then buying a Class 6 rather than a Class 4 would be a total waste of money for the higher speed -
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I was going to post something about the ADATA 8GB card I actually have, because I thought it was a great buy at 18.99, but when I checked their web site today, it turns out since I bought mine only about 2 weeks ago, they posted the above Class 6 speed card with 16GB!
I would make a fuss and return my old one, the only thing is, I don't even have any way of filling up the 8GB card - so I may as well wait until the 32Gb cards come out - also anothjer reason is my Tilt is getting to bee a little long in the tooth with scratches, etc. - so by the time the 32GB cards come down in price there may be other models coming onto the market I want to buy instead of the current phone I have now...
KruseLudsMobile said:
The best bang for your buck right now for a Class 6 MicroSDHC card, is the 16GB made by ADATA - from Newegg.com:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211300
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What SPEED is the Tilt able to handle for the MicroSDHC cards? There are Class 2, 4, and 6 - Class 6 being the fastest. However, if the Tilt is only able to transfer up to or slightly below the speed of a Class 4 card, then buying a Class 6 rather than a Class 4 would be a total waste of money for the higher speed -
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I was going to post something about the ADATA 8GB card I actually have, because I thought it was a great buy at 18.99, but when I checked their web site today, it turns out since I bought mine only about 2 weeks ago, they posted the above Class 6 speed card with 16GB!
I would make a fuss and return my old one, the only thing is, I don't even have any way of filling up the 8GB card - so I may as well wait until the 32Gb cards come out - also anothjer reason is my Tilt is getting to bee a little long in the tooth with scratches, etc. - so by the time the 32GB cards come down in price there may be other models coming onto the market I want to buy instead of the current phone I have now...
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There will no doubt be better phones on the market in the near future (HTC's leaked road map has some nice looking phones due out this year, and that Nvidia Tegra system looks awesome). But, the beauty of the situation here is, pretty much any phone worth buying in the future should have a micro SD slot. It kind of sucked buying SD cards with Mini SD on the horizon, and then buying Mini SD cards with Micro SD on the horizon. But Micro SD seems to have settled in as the standard, so your 16 gig card will probably work on your next device.
According to A-Data's website, they don't make a 16gb microsd card
The link above takes you to a 16gb flash card, but it's not a microsd card. The cheapest ones I've seen are 50+ on ebay, probably fakes, but I have an 8gb, probably fake that I go on ebay, and it works perfectly.
I have a 16 gb micro sd card that I bought on ebay, and it works great. I've had no problems whatsoever with it, and I've really loaded it up! I paid $52.00 for it (shipping included).
It Supports up to 32gb
Correction 16GB MicrSDHC not yet available?
My first post tothis thread was wrong, that was a 16GB sd card, not a micro sdhc card. All I can find for highest capacity (class 6) is an 8GB card which I am now using (and itis fast):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211341
And it's only $15.49!
It appears that the class 4 and class 6 make little difference in speed tests,maybe the tilt read/write throughput gets maxed out at the class 4 speed??? Any thoughts anyone?
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
I'm thinking about getting one, but don't want to drop 200 bucks on it without hearing what others who have gotten one have to say.
crisisinthecity said:
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
I'm thinking about getting one, but don't want to drop 200 bucks on it without hearing what others who have gotten one have to say.
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What class is it? I just tried finding that information out but couldn't find the specs on it. It it's a class 6 then I would be very tempted to get this. If it's only a class 2 then I will pass.
Pandemoniumone said:
What class is it? I just tried finding that information out but couldn't find the specs on it. It it's a class 6 then I would be very tempted to get this. If it's only a class 2 then I will pass.
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It says on it the class #. It's class 2. To expensive for class 2.
alsalahi said:
It says on it the class #. It's class 2. To expensive for class 2.
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Am I blind or what lol! Yes, far to expensive for a class 2, and after owning a class 6 card I will never go with anything less.
There AERE NO class 6, 32GB or 16 GB micro SD cards on the market today. (I think its only up to 8GB)
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There AERE NO class 6, 32GB or 16 GB micro SD cards on the market today. (I think its only up to 8GB)
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That's not true bro. I'm using a Transend 16 gig class 6 in my HD2 right now, used it in my Blackstone as well.
Pandemoniumone said:
That's not true bro. I'm using a Transend 16 gig class 6 in my HD2 right now, used it in my Blackstone as well.
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I have the Transend 16 GB Class 6 as well and love it.
Something has been bothering me for a while now though about a 32 GB class 6. I dont know if we will see one (at least at a "reasonable" price ANY time soon). Think about it. 32 GB is the absolute max the microsd can handle. Device manufacturers are looking into new storage options which should be implemented next year. I just don't know how big of a demand or even incentive there is to release an upgrade to a dying storage medium.
I'm really just looking for more storage space on my phone so that I can put all of my mp3's and vids on there without filling up my card. Class 6 would be nice. Honestly I've never even seen a class 6 micro sd card.
crisisinthecity said:
I'm really just looking for more storage space on my phone so that I can put all of my mp3's and vids on there without filling up my card. Class 6 would be nice. Honestly I've never even seen a class 6 micro sd card.
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It makes a huge difference when you're transferring files to and from your PC if you have the class 6, much faster file transfer.
Yeah thats why I said I THINK! honestly I been with my 16GB class 2 for a really long time now and did some research on the technology of the 32GB micro SD card, I read somewhere that its not possible for the moment (or something like that when I read it) how ever IF THERE IS A 32GB class 6 or EVEN a class 4 I will Definitely BUY IT!
Samsung 32GB Micro SD
If I am not mistaken, I saw a Samsung 32 GB class 6 online for about $600.00. And I too have read that 32GB is the upper limit for microSD.
I have been using a SanDisk 32GB card for about 1 month now. It says "Class 4" but the transfer rate using WMDC seems a bit slower than it should be (when moving large files). I have since moved files using standard MicroSD reader and have no problem. The [email protected] can handle 32GB. Card is still a bit pricey (you can get 2 x 16 for a lot less).
I have heard RiDATA Lightning Series 16GB is freakin fast it is class 6 for 50 bucks looks like a really good deal.
i just bought one from ebay for $34.99 the seller has 100% feedback and people that bought them says they are good. so ill see if the knockoff works lol. its covered on the ebay buyer protection
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I have the Transend 16 GB Class 6 as well and love it.
Something has been bothering me for a while now though about a 32 GB class 6. I dont know if we will see one (at least at a "reasonable" price ANY time soon). Think about it. 32 GB is the absolute max the microsd can handle. Device manufacturers are looking into new storage options which should be implemented next year. I just don't know how big of a demand or even incentive there is to release an upgrade to a dying storage medium.
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Thats not true; sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc
2TB is the new limit
where did you guys get the 6 class? price?
If I have to spend $600 on a 32gb class 6 microsd, I'll buy myself an iphone 4 instead.
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Thats not true; sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc
2TB is the new limit
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Sorry Bud, but that's SD-XC, not HC.
It's new tech, doesn't count. :3
First, 2TB is the limit for Micro SDHX I belive, and I don't think any PDAs or phones are set up to use them yet, next generation.
I recently got a Class 2 Sandisk SDHC 32gb at Verizon for $100. It was supposed to be $150 if you didn't have one of their phones (Droid X I belive) but they didn't ask any questions and gave it to me for the cheaper price. Works fine, plenty fast for video etc.
One note, I did try to buy a cheap '32gb SDHC' off thEbay and what I got looked just like the one I got from Verizon but was marked with Class 4. It would format with 32gb but when I tried to load data onto it after about 8-16gb or so it started getting errors. I figure it was one that was tinkered with internally to make it look like 32gb but actually was just a 8gb or 16gb in reality. I got suckered for $25 so beware.
Marc
I ended up picking up a 16gb class 4 Kingston one for 40 bucks that actually works really well and my phone doesn't lag anymore accessing files on my SD card like Music...
I was thinking about upgrading from my current Sandisk 16GB c2. As many of you know Sandisk is out with there 32GB c2 MicroSDHC which is selling for $100 by Verizon. But if you look on ebay you can also find other 32gb c2/c4 MicroSDHC from TopRAM and Centon. Now I personally have never heard any of these company so I am very spectacle.
Now my question is which would you go with 32GB c2 or 16GB class c6/c10? To me its storage vs transfer rate.
1) Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 = $100
2) Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 = $135
Clearly you should really been far 16GB storage even as decided to use even go want to do look more like 32GB transfer rate?
FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79
I am not sure what you are saying but some claims that the Sandisk 32GB C2 they get around 5mb/s write. So IDK ATM as Kingston 32GB Class 6 is selling for $700 on ebay WTF? Last time I check they didn't even have 32GB class 2, could be fake who knows.
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FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79
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I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.
HyperNode said:
I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.
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You cant go wrong with ScanDisk
its a safe bet
ilordvader could you test the R/W speed of your card and post back.
So after searching and reading many threads in various forums I came to the conclusion that even class 6 is an overkill so class 10 is out of the question other than bragging rights.
Now has anyone used Transcend or A-Data? they seem to be selling at Newegg so they can't be questionable unknown like TopRAM or Centon which I never even heard of until I was searching for MicroSDHC.
Anyone recommend any 16GB class 6 cards? I am still unsure on not ordering SanDisk 32GB Class 2 as storage is high but the speed is low. As majority of user who running Android port do recommend getting anything over class 2.
Extreme candidates:
Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 - $100 < Storage
Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 - $135 < Speed
Are these the only reputable 16GB Class 6 candidates?
A-Data 16GB Class 6 - $53.99
Transcend 16GB Class 6 - $62.99
Lexar 16GB Class 6 - $69.99 < Questionable; produce inferior products
Has anyone heard of these company before?
Centon 16GB Class 6 - $58.99 < Questionable; but listed under Newegg
3C_Pro 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
TOPRAM 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
Team 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
i bought this. Komputerbay 32GB MicroSD SDHC Microsdhc Class 6. £88, which was preety steep.
i get read speads of around 3.5 mb/s and write speeds of 4.5 mb/s, i cant find my 2 speed to compare but it does seem quicker.
though the web site gaurantees minimum 6 mb/s write speeds.
it was amazon so i though it would be ok.
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just tested it again i am getting 6 mb/s read speeds now.
johnwalk did you thoroughly test the card? by formatting and filling it up fully with chunks? if you can confirm its overall performance then I might also order it. Can't wait for other vendors to make it as I need it now. On class 2 card it takes like 30min to just move around 4.5gb now that's way to long for me as I'm always on the go, but thanks for your reply as ill look in to that company.
I don't want to spoil anything, but my HD2 just destroyed my 8GB Sandisk card. 'Luckily' this was not a $100 card, but still.......
Are you shure you want to spent that much, or did you never have your previous card(s) being destroyed?
Wish you goodluck anyway
i just formated it normally the filled it up with music and video still got two gigs left im like a dog with two tails i dont know what to listen to first lol. but the tests i done with it was when it was 28 gigs full only had it two weeks and at first it was slow, especially when you went into the music player it took a few seconds to update but hey a lot of files to browse but its been ok the past few days, but im now at the stage where i dont plug it into my computer anyway i just access my pc and transfer albums by wifi takes about a minute an album, any video usually gets streamed anyway, but wanted a bigger selection when i go on holiday next month.
def recomend this card thougth the first few days i thought i should have gone for the class two, im now happy with it now it all working properly.
I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.
off topic but im seriously looking into the new batch of android tablets which are just coming out now, maybe 7" or 10"
HyperNode said:
I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.
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Hope the HD3 is for Att this time
I've got up to 14.7 MB/sec on my 16GB Kingston Class 10.. and my phone works soo smooth now!
Compared android sliding of homepage on my 2GB Class 2 card and my 16GB Class 10 card, and there is some lag with the 2GB card, and none at all (100% realtime) with the 16GB card..
So, personally I'd say; save some exrtra bucks and go for the 16GB Class 10 Kingston one!
@HyperNode
There are several threads here regarding SD cards being destroyed, or whatever description is given to it.
From one moment to another you get the message that you're card has to be formatted. If you accept it, it says something like (only) 30 MB being available, which doesn't get formatted. Your card can no longer be seen by your HD2, nor by your PC or any other cardreader (afaik)
I´ve never had this problem before. It looks like a specific HD2 problem.
Either with or without a combination to a specific brand or card.
I'm very curious about your experiences.
Please keep us updated.
Thanks and goodluck!
Same here. Mythen hd 2 just destroyed my SD card des SYstem ago
It happened already bevor, Thatcher i couldn't See Thema data anymore , but nie i Cantel even Format it anymore
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It's on sale at fry's. I don't have any experience with "wintec" though. Should i buy it??????? any feedback would be appreciated
I purchased one of these for my HTC Aria a couple of weeks ago and it works !
I'm running apps2sd with the Liberated Aria version and even experimented with Cynaogen (seem a little slow on picking up apps from the SD on boot up, but it seems more of a Cynaogen issue.
Was just in Fry's Sunnvale yesterday and the also have a Kingston 16GB Class 4 for the about same price (in-store $32.99) and on-line price $29.99 :
http://www.frys.com/product/6340051
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Morning XDA,
Just had a quick question about your opinions on micro SDHC cards.
The 2GB that Sprint gave me is quickly filling up, and so I'm deciding to go up to an 8GB
Any cards (type/model) you recommend and which ones cause any problems?
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Morning XDA,
Just had a quick question about your opinions on micro SDHC cards.
The 2GB that Sprint gave me is quickly filling up, and so I'm deciding to go up to an 8GB
Any cards (type/model) you recommend and which ones cause any problems?
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I'm not too sure about the 8GB cards but I bought a 16GB Class 10 SDHC card from Newegg.com for pretty cheap ($35.99).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=16gb_sdhc_class_10-_-20-220-546-_-Product
It performs great and I haven't had a single problem with it. I also notice that my HD videos that are recorded aren't as choppy.
I have the exact same card and I definitely recommend it. Also did some speed tests on it and its definitely a class 10
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I'm not too sure about the 8GB cards but I bought a 16GB Class 10 SDHC card from Newegg.com for pretty cheap ($35.99).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=16gb_sdhc_class_10-_-20-220-546-_-Product
It performs great and I haven't had a single problem with it. I also notice that my HD videos that are recorded aren't as choppy.
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Well I'm on a budget (under $20) and looking at just 8GB Class 4 or 6
This is mostly just to upgrade storage space
I appreciate the suggestions though
There was a 16GB Class 10 from Wintec on New Egg for $24 and change. If you're going to spend $20 go a few more. The class makes a difference and you will notice it.
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There was a 16GB Class 10 from Wintec on New Egg for $24 and change. If you're going to spend $20 go a few more. The class makes a difference and you will notice it.
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Oh nice. Yeah I've been looking around Newegg but have been basing judgement on reviews. I'll definitely look into that one.
Backups take up most of my space.
I got this 8 gig. class 6 card on Amazon for about 17 bucks (I was able to bundle it with something else to get free shipping). I find it's just fine for holding some music and app files. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026L7DG0
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I got this 8 gig. class 6 card on Amazon for about 17 bucks (I was able to bundle it with something else to get free shipping). I find it's just fine for holding some music and app files. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026L7DG0
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That's actually the same one I added to my cart at Newegg ($15.75 w/ Free Shipping)
I'm not THAT stingy between the price disparities, just saw it on NE first.
I bought this 8GB Class 6 @ amazon a while ago.. best SD Card I have bought yet..
$23.95
What I like the best is that it comes with a USB Adapter instead of the SD Card Adapter.
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Sp...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1302950697&sr=1-5
In my best buy in atl we just recently got class 10 micro 8gb for 25. It's a sale price but sometimes they last a while.
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For you guys who upgraded.....
Are the cards formatted out of the box, and "plug-n-play", or do they require additional steps before being read by the phone? I purchased (against my better judgement) a Sandisk 8GB Class 4 card last week, and the phone didn't even recognize the new card. Currently running CM7, so I though the ROM may be the issue, but I nandroided back to Stock, and the card wasn't recognized on that one either. So I just took it back (the card).
I'd like to upgrade, since yes, the backups do take a substantial amount of space, but I'd rather get a card that I can just plug in and go.
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In my best buy in atl we just recently got class 10 micro 8gb for 25. It's a sale price but sometimes they last a while.
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If you're talking about the PNY card, the Best Buy website is showing this as a new item in my local store for $29.99 ($49.99 for 16gb). I'm going to run over there after work and see if they're on sale.
Here is the card I got for me and my wife's Shift. They have been reliable.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453
$16.99 with free shipping. 8GB Class 6 card. Great reviews.
Edit - LOL I see you have already looked at this card...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211518
seems to be out of stock right now, but I was scared to try it after the reviews I read. But definitely works good. There's a flashable zip somewhere to change the SD cache or something and it worked out pretty well
This is a little off topic from my original question, but it's still accessories related
I honestly don't like the charger that came with this phone; juts out of the wall to far and I don't like how it's two parts. I'll definitely keep the cable for computer connectivity though.
I was browsing Amazon and I've seen a couple flat retractable prong ones and I can never seem to find cord length. Plus compatibility issues in terms of voltage output
Need a one piece charge, with a nice lengthy cord, and compact prong style
Any recommendations?
pretty much any micro USB cable will charge the phone. As for charger, I've been using AC chargers for ipod touch and all of them worked with the phone. From my experience, HTC phones tend to be not very picky when it comes to chargers.
Sandisk has never failed me Transcend has.
http://bensbargains.net/redirect/194356/Patriot-8GB-microSDHC-Class-10-Card-13-at-Newegg
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Not bad for the cost but I'm always hesitant after reading reviews especially if other Android users rated it 1/5 with reason
No Android users rated it 1/5. The 1/5 were for people who never received their rebate, and Linux users.