Very HOT diamond - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hello,
everytime I am using Navigation software and having the Diamond at the loader, it gets so HOT! It's not the battery that's hot, but the part below it. Is it normal? I have a feeling, that at a certain point, it all gets very very laggy and response is very bad. I also feel that when the device is cooled down, it runs fast again.
No real proof, but just leave the cover when it is hot and freakin' slow, and wait for 1 or 2 minutes, it is fast again.
Anyone has seen this?

Use the forum search function - has been discussed before...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399979&highlight=hot+diamond

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G1 HOT!

Since the original thread is closed PLEASE no one-post links on the redistribution of these ROMS.
If this question has been asked I'm sorry. The old thread is kinda hard to search since the whole debacle has occurred.
I have the last experimental released..... LOVE IT! The ROM runs fine on my MT3G really stable. I helped a friend with her G1 last night and it is getting really hot now.
G1 with one click 1.4 recovery and last experimental
2G Partitioned SD FAT32/ext3/swap
Everything runs fine the phone just gets really hot.
This G1 has all the same stats as my MT3G and my MT3G doesn’t even get warm.
Thanks for any help.
hot as in the battery is overheating?
hot as in stolen?
Battery and case back are hot.
X-i-phoner said:
Battery and case back are hot.
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Yeah your answer were posted here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565190
Did you try any of them? Don't open up a new thread if it's not necessary. I just checked and the thread isn't locked..

Screen sensitivity on IS

Hi,
While reading IS review on pocketnow.com I've found them saying that the screen sensitivity on IS is not good. But I'm interested and with others opinions from actual owners of IS. Thanks.
rimvydukas said:
Hi,
While reading IS review on pocketnow.com I've found them saying that the screen sensitivity on IS is not good. But I'm interested and with others opinions from actual owners of IS. Thanks.
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I think it's very responsive myself. The only problem I've had in that regard is that I have to press down for a split-second before I swipe down to unlock the screen, otherwise it doesn't respond properly - but I've seen this on other Sense-based phones too.
rimvydukas said:
Hi,
While reading IS review on pocketnow.com I've found them saying that the screen sensitivity on IS is not good. But I'm interested and with others opinions from actual owners of IS. Thanks.
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Perhaps the reviewers were on some kind of experimental drug.. i don't know.. i am too.. but, anyway. the screen sensitivity is just great. Have been using the IS for about three weeks now. Not one hick-up, restart, freeze what so ever.
it has been flying fast all the time.
If anything IMHO its a little over sensitive, sometimes it feels like I don't actually have to make physical contact before the IS makes the action.
TimMun said:
Perhaps the reviewers were on some kind of experimental drug.. i don't know.. i am too.. but, anyway. the screen sensitivity is just great. Have been using the IS for about three weeks now. Not one hick-up, restart, freeze what so ever.
it has been flying fast all the time.
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I have to agree with you, the response time is instant, i haven't rebooted the phone since i started using it. roughly been 3 weeks 2 days uptime.
Although i sometimes hear an echo on my end but when i ask the person on the other end abt the quality of the sound they all say its crystal clear :S
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If anything IMHO its a little over sensitive, sometimes it feels like I don't actually have to make physical contact before the IS makes the action.
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Yes, definately also something I have noticed! This never happened with my Legend, so the screen of the IS must be more sensitive!
Ive noticed this and Ive been trying to figure out what it is. Swiping between home screens is slower than on my Legend and it takes a more firm/resolute (I have to overerly excagerate the finger movement) to get it to move sometimes. It starts moving, but then it stops.
Ive got a small metal piece stuck between screen and phone body, so this might affect my device. Read own post on the matter http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021486
madmaxx82 said:
Yes, definately also something I have noticed! This never happened with my Legend, so the screen of the IS must be more sensitive!
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This is exactly what I have noticed. You might could say, it's just too sensitiv.
I haven't had any sensitivity issues - so far so good
I have a mate who got this phone & he is having issues with applications opening without him touching the screen he just has to put his finger about 2mm from screen & they open eg messages/camera etc.
Anyone else having this problem ?
Is there a setting he can change to fix this sensitivity issue especially as he has moved from an old Nokia non smartphone ?
MTIA
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If anything IMHO its a little over sensitive, sometimes it feels like I don't actually have to make physical contact before the IS makes the action.
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Yup mine is like this too.
lol. seriously, the guys who reviewed must have been smoking something really good
or they were plain prejudiced or paid to say so.
i would dare say this is the best touch screen i have ever used.
the sensitivity is just great... feels good to touch!
Same sensitivity as my desire... better than my galaxy s 4g...

Should I get LG O2X?

Hello!
I'm gonna buy a new phone, but idk when. I think I'm gonna buy the LG O2X, though after reading all the problems with it, I'm not sure.
I have heard troubles like:
Shuts down and reboot randomly.
Shows wrong battery percent left.
WiFi stops to work when you turn it on after sleep.
I also heard about 2 people who had their LG out in the sun, when it was like 20-25 degrees and it started to reboot every 2 minute.
If the phone didn't have all these problems, I would definitely get it. But that's apparently not the case.
Damn, this is driving me crazy, I can't decide whether I should get it or not. Please help me.
All the things you've listed are software, the first CM7 nightly is currently building. That said I've not had mine's been mostly fine. No wifi issues, only had odd battery behavior when trying new kernels. Have had a couple of overnight reboots, but not for about 5 days.
Rusty! said:
All the things you've listed are software, the first CM7 nightly is currently building. That said I've not had mine's been mostly fine. No wifi issues, only had odd battery behavior when trying new kernels. Have had a couple of overnight reboots, but not for about 5 days.
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Thanks!
I know that the problems I listed is problems with the SW, and can be solved. But the problem about their phone did reboots every 2 minute when they had it outside in the sun. Is the problem I most worry about, since it doesn't sounds like problems with the SW.
I'm not gonna change ROM or something. Since I don't wanna loose my warranty.
And LG doesn't seems to solve problems that quickly, correct me if I'm wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997705, I read a few pages there, so many seems to have trouble with it. So I really don't know what I should do.
Every 2 minutes? Weird lol. My o2x was right next to me while I was lying in the sun all the time during the easter holidays. No such probs here, actually none of the probs you mentioned. If you get one with constant freezing you can always get an exchange, you know
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Every 2 minutes? Weird lol. My o2x was right next to me while I was lying in the sun all the time during the easter holidays. No such probs here, actually none of the probs you mentioned. If you get one with constant freezing you can always get an exchange, you know
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Sounds good. I guess you're right about exchanging. But I wanna save myself the trouble.
Any software changes you make can be reversed easily enough for warranty purposes.
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Any software changes you make can be reversed easily enough for warranty purposes.
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Alright, that's good. But having to change ROM, to get a good working phone doesn't seems right.
How is the phone at browsing? I've heard that the text isn't best on O2X.
simonh94 said:
Alright, that's good. But having to change ROM, to get a good working phone doesn't seems right.
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correct
you can go stock and all is fine.- do not read all those reviews..about rebootings, lags..
I had stock for couple of days and it was very smooth, all fine, no lags, no reboots, then MoDaCo and even this was great.
simonh94 said:
I also heard about 2 people who had their LG out in the sun, when it was like 20-25 degrees and it started to reboot every 2 minute.
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Sounds like your friends' phones could have errant processes running in the background and the extra heat from the sun could have pushed the phones into instability.
Ask them to install "Watchdog Task Manager Lite" to monitor the processes running on their phones. If they can track down which app processes are the culprits, they should try to delete or modify the app settings to quieten down their errant behaviours. This should help with the "every 2 mins in sun reboot" issue.
rori~ said:
correct
you can go stock and all is fine.- do not read all those reviews..about rebootings, lags..
I had stock for couple of days and it was very smooth, all fine, no lags, no reboots, then MoDaCo and even this was great.
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Sounds very good. Well, I've mostly read the problems on forums.
ppsun said:
Sounds like your friends' phones could have errant processes running in the background and the extra heat from the sun could have pushed the phones into instability.
Ask them to install "Watchdog Task Manager Lite" to monitor the processes running on their phones. If they can track down which app processes are the culprits, they should try to delete or modify the app settings to quieten down their errant behaviours. This should help with the "every 2 mins in sun reboot" issue.
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I read about this problem in a forum. But thanks for the "Watchdog Task Manager Lite" tip, I guess it could be handy when I get a android phone. If it will be LG O2X, we'll see.
If you are a non-hacker type person, and just want to use the phone straight out of the box, it might be prudent to avoid most, if not all, of the dual-core phones for now. I think the designers and programmers are still trying to iron out the kinks with the new dual-core phones. IMHO, a fast single-core Android phone might probably be a more fuss-free phone straight out of the box than dual-cores currently.
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If you are a non-hacker type person, and just want to use the phone straight out of the box, it might be prudent to avoid most, if not all, of the dual-core phones for now. I think the designers and programmers are still trying to iron out the kinks with the new dual-core phones. IMHO, a fast single-core Android phone might probably be a more fuss-free phone straight out of the box than dual-cores currently.
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Well, I don't change phone that often, so I wanna have future proof phone that isn't too expensive. And I believe this is that phone.
I'm pretty sure I can root it and change rom. But... I'm too afraid I might mess it up.
In forums like these you will mostly read about the issues that some are having, because people tend to seek out these forums when they disover isues - the wast majority may not have any issues and dont post in forums like these. So regardless of which device you get, you will allways find alot of forum posts dealing with whatever bugs some users are facing. The number of issues and error posts for the LG isnt really that big, nothing out of the ordinary, and nothing you wont see just as many or more for ANY other device out there - single core or dual core.
Basically dont get scared off by these but only use it as a guide to perhaps seek for specific bugs which you would not be able to live with untill they get fixed by the manufacturer.
I have 2 LG optimus - one for myself and one for my teenager son
Both bought on the same day 6 weeks ago.
Mine has run completely stable and "errorfree" since day one - not a single random shutdown or lockup bsod - no issues with wifi, 3g or anything - has worked with every single app I tried, no batterydrain (easily get 2 days worth) etc. etc.
They are running completely stock with the only change being a different laucher (GO launcher) to solve the micro stutter in swyping between homescreens which the standard LG launcher has (just a very minor software issue).
The only issues I have left are 2 known issues - which for certain will be solved by some new LG update. One is the lag that happens while installing a new app from market - the other is the memory management which isnt completely optimised causing free memory to sometimes run a litle lower than wanted.
If you arent unlucky and get hit by the random shutdowns and bsod that some users are facing - then you do get a very nice future proof phone that isnt too expensive, and does most things pretty good allready - and will only get better as updates arrives
Imho, rooting and new roms arent really needed, allthough a nice possibility for those that like to tinker and tuning their devices as much as possible - but even without doing so, you will get a nice phone.
I'm planning to get one too so I just started to visit O2X threads. Currently on Motorola Milestone, but I'm sick of it's low RAM. Every new game is force closing. I'll wait for it to get cheaper in my country .
spawndk said:
In forums like these you will mostly read about the issues that some are having, because people tend to seek out these forums when they disover isues - the wast majority may not have any issues and dont post in forums like these. So regardless of which device you get, you will allways find alot of forum posts dealing with whatever bugs some users are facing. The number of issues and error posts for the LG isnt really that big, nothing out of the ordinary, and nothing you wont see just as many or more for ANY other device out there - single core or dual core.
Basically dont get scared off by these but only use it as a guide to perhaps seek for specific bugs which you would not be able to live with untill they get fixed by the manufacturer.
I have 2 LG optimus - one for myself and one for my teenager son
Both bought on the same day 6 weeks ago.
Mine has run completely stable and "errorfree" since day one - not a single random shutdown or lockup bsod - no issues with wifi, 3g or anything - has worked with every single app I tried, no batterydrain (easily get 2 days worth) etc. etc.
They are running completely stock with the only change being a different laucher (GO launcher) to solve the micro stutter in swyping between homescreens which the standard LG launcher has (just a very minor software issue).
The only issues I have left are 2 known issues - which for certain will be solved by some new LG update. One is the lag that happens while installing a new app from market - the other is the memory management which isnt completely optimised causing free memory to sometimes run a litle lower than wanted.
If you arent unlucky and get hit by the random shutdowns and bsod that some users are facing - then you do get a very nice future proof phone that isnt too expensive, and does most things pretty good allready - and will only get better as updates arrives
Imho, rooting and new roms arent really needed, allthough a nice possibility for those that like to tinker and tuning their devices as much as possible - but even without doing so, you will get a nice phone.
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You're probably right. I've read alot of threads. It's so weird, some have many problems with the phone and some have not. I really don't wanna have problems with reboots and wifi.
I'm still not sure if I should get it or not. I don't really see any other future proof alternatives in the same price range. The SGS2 is too expensive.
This is definitely not easy, maybe I should wait and see if they fix all problems. But IDK which phone I should get instead.
simonh94 said:
You're probably right. I've read alot of threads. It's so weird, some have many problems with the phone and some have not. I really don't wanna have problems with reboots and wifi.
I'm still not sure if I should get it or not. I don't really see any other future proof alternatives in the same price range. The SGS2 is too expensive.
This is definitely not easy, maybe I should wait and see if they fix all problems. But IDK which phone I should get instead.
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I've seen some reviews of SGS2 and it seems laggier than O2X. First I noticed that in Shrek Kart video (I've seen SGS2, than compared to O2X), after that it seemed that SGS2's launcher is laggy too -.-' ... maybe I just watched fake/bad reviews ^^.
Well i had phone for around 2 weeks and have not had any of the reboot issues as for batt draining if u ture of back ground data then this reduces it massivly, the handset is on of the best around. As for LG not doing update to solve problems i think that is unfair they do seem to be listerning with in a few days of me gettting hand set went from 10b to 10d. So i would say that if you want future proof device then this is the one and if you want game then its a no brainer
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I've seen some reviews of SGS2 and it seems laggier than O2X. First I noticed that in Shrek Kart video (I've seen SGS2, than compared to O2X), after that it seemed that SGS2's launcher is laggy too -.-' ... maybe I just watched fake/bad reviews ^^.
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Okay, I haven't watch any review of that phone. Since it's too expensive.
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Well i had phone for around 2 weeks and have not had any of the reboot issues as for batt draining if u ture of back ground data then this reduces it massivly, the handset is on of the best around. As for LG not doing update to solve problems i think that is unfair they do seem to be listerning with in a few days of me gettting hand set went from 10b to 10d. So i would say that if you want future proof device then this is the one and if you want game then its a no brainer
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Alright. I think I'll get the O2X then. Though, I'm not gonna get it before they fixed these problems.
I read in a review that the OS takes about 300 mb ram.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/
So I have about 200 mb free for my apps. That doesn't sound much, but maybe it's enough? Well, this is going to be my first smartphone, so I don't really know how much RAM app takes.
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I read in a review that the OS takes about 300 mb ram.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/lg-optimus-2x-review/
So I have about 200 mb free for my apps. That doesn't sound much, but maybe it's enough? Well, this is going to be my first smartphone, so I don't really know how much RAM the app takes.
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don´t worry about that this phone has more you need..

Replacement = Even more problems.

Had a n6 with half purple screen and had it exchanged.
This new one is horrible ..
It seems to get really warm compared to the other and when it does, boy does it lag. Just typing this out, it's lagging.
I also noticed that my Bluetooth has "silence" spots while listening to music. Every 2-3 minutes, it will stop for a split second like it can't buffer, even if the music is on the device.
Another thing that may just be me, it seems the keyboard doesn't predict as well, like it's not even touching the keys I'm swiping.
Lastly, half the screen is white and half is a really yellow color. Very irritated by this device. Makes me want to throw it against a wall.
Your first problem can be resolved by using a custom kernel that does not use mpdecision. Mpdecision is known to be power inefficient and sends your CPU to be sitting in wasteful frequencies causing your phone to generate additional heat. My phone became really warm with mpdecision on.
Secondly, I don't use bluetooth so I can't comment.
Third. That isn't a N6 problem, its a problem with the software of the keyboard application that you're using. SwiftKey works great for me.
Fourth, can't really comment on that. My screen looks good, your phone should be uniformly the same color, you can try changing RGB and see if it would do anything. I recommend turning off adaptive brightness.
Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.
20degrees said:
Good suggestions I suppose.
Only problem with those, I'm not gonna root or use a custom kernel. The last n6 only had a faulty screen and no other problems. That one didn't need any custom root activities.
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If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.
This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?
If you are having those problems on stock, and don't want to root/etc, then your only option is to return it again. Pretty simple.
If you are looking for confirmation that your experience isn't 'normal' on the stock phone, I can confirm it is not.
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This is a user forum as well as a developer forum.
I'm posting here to show there is problems with these phones.
Why does it matter to you?
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I'm not trying to argue at all I was just curious. I would have the phone replaced if you want to gave those issues fixed without modifying the phone. Best of luck with the issues because it's not fun when you can't fix them.
Pilz said:
If you don't root, or use ROM's then why post about it on a developer forum? I'm not trying to be rude just wondering why here. If it has more issue call moto and have them send a new one. My RMA phone is fine 0 issues so far and I'm happy with it.
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I scratch my head also. XDA is a developer's forum. There are tons of other sites more suitable to those not wanting to root/ROM it up.
Sounds good. Let's discuss dbrand skins and the such.
I doubt this has anything to do with memory leaks or anything that's been discussed on lollipop.
I'd say you have a faulty SOC and I would replace it. My wife had similar issues on an S5 where it would stutter and fall behind almost and get warm. The icing on the cake was while taking video, normal 1080p video, and it would drop frames like crazy. Maybe 22fps or so was al, it was getting.
I actually agree with 20degrees on this one... There are tons of non development/customization threads on here, and XDA has a pretty knowledgeable user base so it is a convenient one stop shop for info.
People just need to ignore/keep their comments to themselves in the Q&A and general sections if they have nothing constructive to add to the topic of the thread.

Note 9 - S10 Official Samsung fast wireless charger

Hi there!
I would wanna know why is that my 2 phones (S10, Note9) behaving the same exact way on 2 different Samsung fast chargers - Wireless Charger Duo and Wireless Charger Convertible.
Whenever I try to charge, after like 5 mins, the charging rate drops from 800-840mA to 0-200mA, and it takes around 4-5 hours to fully charge. I tried different official samsung bricks and cables (the one that comes with phone, one that comes with the duo, one that I bought seperately as adaptive fast charger brick etc), ALSO third party bricks and cables, no change whatsoever, behaves the same way.
The phones reach around 38 Celsius the first time when it charges with 800mA, then drops down to 36 Celsius with 0-200mA.
I'm guessing its the heat sensor in either the charger or the phone, but it's ridiculous...I have an ambient temp of around 25-28 celsius since it's summer, but even a 40 celsius on the phone or the charger shouldn't be a problem in my opinion...(PC cpu-s can operate on 60-70 celsius nonstop without even crashing)
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MAaroninho said:
Hi there!
I would wanna know why is that my 2 phones (S10, Note9) behaving the same exact way on 2 different Samsung fast chargers - Wireless Charger Duo and Wireless Charger Convertible.
Whenever I try to charge, after like 5 mins, the charging rate drops from 800-840mA to 0-200mA, and it takes around 4-5 hours to fully charge. I tried different official samsung bricks and cables (the one that comes with phone, one that comes with the duo, one that I bought seperately as adaptive fast charger brick etc), ALSO third party bricks and cables, no change whatsoever, behaves the same way.
The phones reach around 38 Celsius the first time when it charges with 800mA, then drops down to 36 Celsius with 0-200mA.
I'm guessing its the heat sensor in either the charger or the phone, but it's ridiculous...I have an ambient temp of around 25-28 celsius since it's summer, but even a 40 celsius on the phone or the charger shouldn't be a problem in my opinion...(PC cpu-s can operate on 60-70 celsius nonstop without even crashing)
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samsung charging cables are trash.
for me if phone is under direct sunlight at an ambient 30c it will notify me of overheating and stop charging.
bober10113 said:
samsung charging cables are trash.
for me if phone is under direct sunlight at an ambient 30c it will notify me of overheating and stop charging.
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Well sorry, but that's obvious, the outer parts of the phone (aluminium and plastic) can get around, I'd guess, 80 celsius in summer in direct sunlight at midday...
I'm obviously not trying to wirelessly charge my phone in direct sunlight, and I advise you the same so thanks for that piece of information...
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Do you have a case on either phone by chance? since were pointing out the obvious here lol.
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Of course I do, but that actually doesnt affect it, tried without the cases...
I really think it's the "heating", but the real interesting thing is that I think before the june patch, it didn't matter how hot it got, it just charged with full throttle until about 90%, the dropped to half (500mA-600mA)...I only experienced it after that update...
So noone has a solution I guess...is there any way to overwrite that sensor coding to 39 degrees?
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Having a thick case can absolutely effect wireless charging, so that's why I asked.
Now you say that it's been since the June patch that it's been acting like this, and Samsung could have very well limited wireless charging under heat.
Due to the harsh reality that is the note 7, these seem to be sensible, required limits to charging. I would not help in changing that hard limit on battery temp current limiting, nor do I suggest anyone else for it's a safety risk.
Is fast charging on? (Assuming it is)
Turn of fast charging and see if the charge temps allow for uninterrupted charging.
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Well I just made a small test, seems like it only fluctuates a very small amount fast wireless turned off - 380-440mA, and the hottest it gets is 35 celsius degrees.
It really seems to me that when temps hit 38celsius (I dont know which temp sensor is that ,I know its not the cpu part, it's the one shows in apps like Ampere), it just almost disconnects the charging, which is interesting, if it gets just around 38c with 840mA, it just should lower the amp input a bit, like 700mA (somehow, I don't really know how it works, maybe it's either fast or normal charge, not like an adjustable value).
Maybe someone from Samsung team will read this or similar, and make it work
And yes, I do remember the S7 misery and yeah of course, especially during summer, it must be a concern (probably that's why they included this in June patch)
But then again...I bought a topnotch phone, official fast charger, and a few degrees warmer, makes it charge 0-200mA... which is less the half of normal wireless charging
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You bought a top notch phone, do you want a top notch fire started instead? Lol
I can understand how frustrating it would be to not be able to wireless charge at all like in your situation.
So did turning off fast charging work for you?
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Come on, it wouldn't start a fire, like I said, it wasn't like this before the june patch (maybe may), I actually did measurements in between fast wired, fast wireless chargings, official and unofficial brands to see if I would need to buy the samsung stuff for 500% that does the same as an offbrand charger, and actually yes, official wireless chargers for samsung do charge the phone around 10-15% faster, BUT I also looked at temps, during springtime, it was well above 39 celsius for the most part of the charging time(it just kept charging full throttle)...
And again, yeah, turning off fast wireless charging goes flawlessly.
Also, did a small test again, wired fast charge, around 1100mA, phone gets around 39-40celsius, yet that keeps on going, no "charging-throttle"...it must be something to do with the parameters and values added in the wireless coding.
I'd post on the samsung forums instead of xda if you really want actual visibly on Samsung's part. dont know why people continue to report issues and expect support from xda when issues as these are clearly something to bring up to the phone company.( screen issues, camera issues etc, all are reported on xda and i suspect only a small amount actualy post about it on samsung forums)
also did you check if fast WIRED charging also has the same issues/behavior?
if so, you know its not related to the type of charging but something newly implemented.
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Battery degredation by heat is a real problem for lithium. And the fire risk comes from the fact that they can create their own oxygen and putting them out is near impossible unless you have the proper dousing chemicals.
Wireless charging is know for producing excess heat..
Fast charging is know for producing excess heat...
Put them together and you have a hot phone. It sounds like Samsung patched a flaw in the charging system that can lead 5o battery issues over charge cycles.
On one hand The only way to really test this is for you to flash your phone to an earlier OS VERSION and see if this is in fact the case.
On the other hand at least you know you can turn of fast charging in order to produce stable wireless charging currents. I
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I would have flashed an earlier, if it was possible, you can't downgrade official firmware since about a year ago, maybe even more. How come you seem to want to show you know a lot, you dont know this?
Once again, I'm sorry, but it seems to me you only wrote here to argue with someone, look at my and your first post.....
You didn't help, just tried to show (for any reason) inferiority by arguing with literally everything I stated.
Now I dont care for that...
Are you a Samsung employee? I know a lot of the software engineers from Samsung and from Google are here to learn, experiment with mods, features, roms etc.
Main point I already made, in an ambient temp of 27 degrees, the 100 dollar fast wireless charger takes 5 hours to charge, which is ridiculous value, and you cant state any reasoning for this, since a few months ago it worked as it should.
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I'd post on the samsung forums instead of xda if you really want actual visibly on Samsung's part. dont know why people continue to report issues and expect support from xda when issues as these are clearly something to bring up to the phone company.( screen issues, camera issues etc, all are reported on xda and i suspect only a small amount actualy post about it on samsung forums)
also did you check if fast WIRED charging also has the same issues/behavior?
if so, you know its not related to the type of charging but something newly implemented.
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People come here for the reason I stated above...a whole lot of software engineers working for eg. Samsung learns a lot here, most of the implemented stuff year by year in official firmwares first appeared on xda as a mod, or as a part of the rom, so if I want to overcome a problem, I'd rather get info from here than from a lowlevel technician/communicator from samsung....also, most of the time, they reply with a "Have you tried pulling out and plugging in? Yes? Then turn off then on, youre welcome!", since they won't acknowledge on official forums what are the flaws in their products, so no solving either...
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People come here for the reason I stated above...a whole lot of software engineers working for eg. Samsung learns a lot here, most of the implemented stuff year by year in official firmwares first appeared on xda as a mod, or as a part of the rom, so if I want to overcome a problem, I'd rather get info from here than from a lowlevel technician/communicator from samsung....also, most of the time, they reply with a "Have you tried pulling out and plugging in? Yes? Then turn off then on, youre welcome!", since they won't acknowledge on official forums what are the flaws in their products, so no solving either...
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i get your point and its a valid one. but id still copy paste your post over there. if more people chime in on their site and creates a stir, maybe it will get things going.
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This in incorrect. Completely incorrect. For both the Exynos and the Snapdragon model. You never stated what version phone you have.
I have the US snapgradon note 9, and i can upgrade and downgrade to ANY available OS version.
For the Exynos variant, you can downgrade so long as the version you are downgrading too has a bootloader version that is the same version. If you are on the current OS version from 7/10, then you can not downgrade. But if you were on Pie 6/03 you could have downgraded all the way to oreo update from 10/11/18.
For why you want to call me out is understandable. im not telling you what you want to hear.
That is not even close to the truth. for anyone who looks all i asked was if you had a case or not- because a thick case will limit or stop wireless charging all together. All you are showing is your lack of understanding or patience because i have not fixed YOUR problem. i find your tone insulting and i hope you can fix this on your own from here on out as i am done trying to offer my help for free. you are the one being rude.
I have already stated two reasons for this. you just have not accepted them. that is fine.
also, i reported your post, so in the future i would try to keep your banter and insults to 0.
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You cannot downgrade because the bootloader gets updated...you actually ran into some sort of "self-oximoron"
I call out anyone whom is arguing with me for no reason, don't need that sorry, I've grown up
Why, what do I want to hear? I tell you, maybe someone knows that there is a certain combination of settings/apps that casues this, happened some similar stuff before in smartphone history....I've been using custom roms/mods since 2012, seen/experienced some weird stuff
All you asked was what case I use? Come on..... everything is written here - as long as you won't delete your responses, everyone can see you did not try to help
Done trying to offer help for free? What if I pay? come on man, you sound ridiculous You did not help - otherwise, please, quote your solution to my problem
Also, you replied here, I did not ask for YOUR specific help, I asked a community. Do you know where you are?
Report me all day, haven't written anything offensive...you probably never looked up what offensive means by either law or forums rules...
Also, some literature....
When you write "I would...", its like writing "If I were you, I would do this and that". "I would...your banter..." doesn't make sense.
Have a nice one, thanks for telling me to not use thick cases when I'm wirelessly charging
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First off, you never specified what model you have, and still have not.
Second, as you can see below, the BOOTLOADER is currently on V3 for the N960F, but only the last update is V3. If you are on V2 you can absolutely downgrade all the way back to Oero from 2018.
And if you have the american Snapdragon model, there has not been a BOOTLOADER update so you can flash any version you please.
So i have no idea why you keep saying that the bootloader was upgraded over a year ago and nobody can downgrade. not sure where you go that misinformation, but i am clarifying for any poor souls reading through this to see the truth.
feel free to quote what i said that was rude. You can't delete posts, and i have not changed any of mine besides spelling typos. Mods will confirm this when they check this since i reported your misconduct.
i will report you if need be as that is what we have been instructed to do when users act the way you are acting. The only reason i am posting is so that anyone else reading is not misled by your false claims about downgrading, or my conduct.
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And again, yeah, turning off fast wireless charging goes flawlessly.
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you already forgot the part where i suggested turning off fast charging and you came back with this? yeah, you did.
would you look at that, you made a grammatical error, should i be passive aggressive like you and point it out? or should i use context clues to figure out what you are trying to say? what does happened some similar stuff mean?
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Sorry but you don't make sense anymore, really man, you already written that you won't help me for free, is it my birthday, or why are you still here?
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i get your point and its a valid one. but id still copy paste your post over there. if more people chime in on their site and creates a stir, maybe it will get things going.
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You are right about that, but I think our friend here just made this thread a really "hot topic", so probably a lot of Samsung engineers will see this
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First off, you never specified what model you have, and still have not.
Second, as you can see below, the BOOTLOADER is currently on V3 for the N960F, but only the last update is V3. If you are on V2 you can absolutely downgrade all the way back to Oero from 2018.
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And if you have the american Snapdragon model, there has not been a BOOTLOADER update so you can flash any version you please.
So i have no idea why you keep saying that the bootloader was upgraded over a year ago and nobody can downgrade. not sure where you go that misinformation, but i am clarifying for any poor souls reading through this to see the truth.
feel free to quote what i said that was rude. You can't delete posts, and i have not changed any of mine besides spelling typos. Mods will confirm this when they check this since i reported your misconduct.
i will report you if need be as that is what we have been instructed to do when users act the way you are acting. The only reason i am posting is so that anyone else reading is not misled by your false claims about downgrading, or my conduct.
you already forgot the part where i suggested turning off fast charging and you came back with this? yeah, you did.
would you look at that, you made a grammatical error, should i be passive aggressive like you and point it out? or should i use context clues to figure out what you are trying to say? what does happened some similar stuff mean?
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Man, do you see how much you just want to argue? This is not the topic in this thread, and you just keep on rolling on this for ever.
you already forgot the part where i suggested turning off fast charging and you came back with this? yeah, you did.
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this doesn't even make sense, what did I come back with? And how does this helps in this thread's topic?
would you look at that, you made a grammatical error, should i be passive aggressive like you and point it out? or should i use context clues to figure out what you are trying to say? what does happened some similar stuff mean?
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Where is the grammatical error?
I know exactly what you are trying to do, every time you post here, anything I reply with, you report...so you think, more report on my posts, the more likely the whole thread will be closed, right? What a revenge for calling you out You think I wouldn't be able to reopen a thread, or even, re-register an account? Come on man, really, this is low...
i think its rather sad that users had to resort to PM'ing you to create problems, when i offered more help than them in the first place. Forum rules prevent me from mentioning directly who is doing this.
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You did not offer help, turning fast wireless charging OFF is not a help to fast charge wirelessly...It may seem like in your head, that you have a "solution", sorry, it (mathematically, physically) is not
I already suggested that you turn off fast charging and provided the reasoning why that would help, and that worked. But you have convinced yourself that i have been arguing with you because of another users sour attitude twords me.
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It is really not that...the first time you wrote
do you want a top notch fire started instead? Lol
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this is degrading, not helping, and just flamboyant...
So did turning off fast charging work for you?
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of course, i was able to fast charge whilst its turned off, you solved the problem why you try to pose as a hero here, when it obviously is not the solution? either it IS some sort of safe coding that's been put into the new firmwares, OR some cross-coding weird thing...to neither is "turn off FWC" is the solution
I already suggested that you turn off fast charging and provided the reasoning why that would help, and that worked. But you have convinced yourself that i have been arguing with you because of another users sour attitude twords me.
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Same as above, you provided no solution, yet you claiming that, man, what is wrong with you? Or you really think turning fast wireless off, is gonna fast charge my phone wirelessly?
It's only threads where this particular user is present where problems arise. When i help other members, all is well. I hope the mods take appropriate action as this is highly counter productive and just ends up clogging threads with tons of non sense for no reason.
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I do not care, really, your catfighting is not my problem...and again, the reason I called you out is because you keep on rumbling how helpful you are/were....when it is not true...
Im not trying to do anything. I was trying to help. now i am defending my actions after a certain user infected you with this nonsense. I reported all off topic posts, as that is what i have been instructed to do.
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INSTRUCTED? You really lost it man, no one instructed you, just .... COME ON DD you really sound very mentally challenged for this statement, that you've been instructed...It's called "Forum Rules", you have NOT been instructed
Also, for the small time I'm keeping the topic alive, look at this:
I know exactly what you are trying to do, every time you post here, anything I reply with, you report...so you think, more report on my posts, the more likely the whole thread will be closed, right? What a revenge for calling you out You think I wouldn't be able to reopen a thread, or even, re-register an account? Come on man, really, this is low...
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I reported all off topic posts, as that is what i have been instructed to do.
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Was I right, or was I correct? XD
Couldn't be bothered to read through the arguing (you guys should really grow up) but thought I'd chime in with my testing results, I check the power my Ravpower wireless charger is using so will be different to however you're getting your figures. I'm seeing 9V 1A until it hits 38C and then it drops to 9V 0.5A and then it jumps back up to 9V 1A after the temp drops down to 36C. I have a USB desk fan that I usually point at the phone when wireless charging and that keeps the phone within a few degrees of ambient.
My phone is a N960F running the July firmware.
willhemmens said:
Couldn't be bothered to read through the arguing (you guys should really grow up) but thought I'd chime in with my testing results, I check the power my Ravpower wireless charger is using so will be different to however you're getting your figures. I'm seeing 9V 1A until it hits 38C and then it drops to 9V 0.5A and then it jumps back up to 9V 1A after the temp drops down to 36C. I have a USB desk fan that I usually point at the phone when wireless charging and that keeps the phone within a few degrees of ambient.
My phone is a N960F running the July firmware.
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Thanks for that, that's what I figured, and did...external cooling And yea, 38C seems to be the droppoint.
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