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Poll for the community regarding cabs Delete on 4-1-07[pending approval]

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I wish to start this poll to express an Idea I had this weekend. I have been browsing this site for a couple of years now and have noticed people starting threads for cab files only the only problem is that the first page is great then 2nd a 3rd pages get worse and worse pretty soon your looking through hundreds of posts and the thread is crap. My suggestion would to be to add another section in addtion to the main wizard forum seprate of upgrading and general and make a cabs section this would include specific cabs to make registry changes not all inclusive cabs also it would be for fixes and software to make our lives easier and to make it better we can have the moderators sign off on the cabs to verify they are "correct" or that they are relivant. The moderator can also have the right to delete superfolous posts and add cabs to the first post keeping the site clean. I think this will also keep the forum clean. So if this is a good Idea I'd like you to put your 2 cents in. Moderators if this seems like a good idea then I'd be happy to help.
I would like this post to be deleted at the end of this month as not to contribute to the problem.
I'm going to post an example
Windows Mobile 6 and 5 moderator approved Cabs
Change the G in the title bar to E for edge (link) Moderator approval(put names of moderator that has looked at the cab and verified funtionility here)
Windows Mobile 6 only moderator Approved Cabs
Turn on power management of SDcard (link) Moderator approval(put names of moderator that has looked at the cab and verified funtionility here)
Posts Can be added for example apps then deleted once a moderator tests and approves

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Thanks Gys it looks like we are getting better results

This is infact a very good idea!!
Further, can we have "onshare" amongst all the XDA-DEV guys, so as to share cabs/tweaks and Roms safely and securely?
http://www.onshare.com/en_gb/index.php?ck=ok

on share
Sounds a good saves a lot of time
on share looks good set it up my id is easymob i have some roms to share

Good idea, it can be every hard to find a CAB you used once before and can't find after a ROM upgrade. I think it would also clean up the forums by reducing any CAB request threads etc.

It will indeed be a great time saver, as it's really hard currently to go through a lot of pages without actually having the link to the cab file.
Great Idea.

Isn't this why we have a Wiki?

Great time saver for members but a great time waster for mods, don't ya think?

anything that makes this website better is good with me.. this is the best site on the web.

time waster
Infact it would be quite the opposite problem. The moderator only need to monitor 1 thread and this will infact save time. How say you moderators. By keeping one thread clean and having a checks and balances system it will let the community know that we are trying to accomplish a goal towards providing resources for fixes etc. but keeping in mind that people in the community don't want to waste htere time either. As for the wiki that is a good resource but the idea is to keep the forum clean. If people had a forum link to go to then they would just need to go there for safe fixes and possibly not post over and over again. As aside I frequently ask moderators to erase my threads that seem not to help the community. I would also like to see more of these practices on this forum but I'm not a moderator so i have to rely on them.

suggestion
Another suggestion would to make all cabs registered as XDA Developers open source I have posted a working cab as an example. Maybe eventually we can work as a community to make our own freeware tweak utility suck as Tweaks2k.

Use the WIKI.

that's a good idea , and to make it even easier , we can upload some cabs we had already downloaded so everybody can use it

I agree with putting this in the wiki. There are still too many, "why isn't my device upgrading when I flash the rom?" questions going on right now for the moderators to do this very effiectively.

My vote goes to Wiki also! The idea is pretty cool and save a lot of time to all of us!
Time is money!

yea i agree... being organized will release the site from numerous senceless threads wen its easier to find something your looking for

Consider this another vote using the WIKI.
That's why it exists right ????

WIKI
OK how about putting a link on the forums page directly to the cabs on wiki

Yeah I'm thinking we would not have any problems posting on the FTP site unless their are roms. If you want I can host a site for Moderators to share cab files ECT. But I too would not want anyone to post illeagal software on it just fixes and patches
sids911 said:
This is infact a very good idea!!
Further, can we have "onshare" amongst all the XDA-DEV guys, so as to share cabs/tweaks and Roms safely and securely?
http://www.onshare.com/en_gb/index.php?ck=ok
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Sounds like a good idea in theory. But, I have a feeling it will also start out good and turn into a crap thread again. But it will depend on the moderators, if they are willing to put in the time and effort to keep it clean.

BAD XDA-DEVELOPERS? Where's this thread?Who has deleted it?WHY?!?!?!?!?!

[Mod Edit: The Previous Thread by Dutty was removed by request, because of it's sensitive WM 6.5 content, unfortunatly this sometimes has to happen and is not in particular because the developer or XDA wants to keep information away from the Public. I hope, that without going into to much detail that we can count on the understanding of you al. If there are questions regarding Removed threads please don't hesitate to ask a Mod directly At The Moment this is being investigated.
Please take into account a few days before a Response will be available. Thanks for all your understanding and patience]
[Noonski]
There are some strange things.
The first: why that thread was closed?? On that thread there were interesting infos usefull for many people here. So, WHY??
Second: why this morning that thread disappeared completely??
Third: why no one seems to have those rom dumps from Rhodium and Topaz??
Only one person seems to have got those dumps, it's clear reading the thread.
SO, WHY NO ONE HAS SHARED THE DUMPs???
THOSE ARE PERHAPS USELESS FOR THIS COMMUNITY????
In my opinion this is REALLY STRANGE, and I can't understand the points above.
Is this a community to develop something together or not??
SO, WHY NOT SHARE THOSE SOURCES(I REPEAT, SOURCES!!)??? Those are usefull for all the community!!! OR I'M WRONG??!?!?!?!?
Please, someone tell me that I'm wrong or let me know what's the spirit of xda-developers!

make a complaint to admin of this site

Uh! Oh!!!
I can't believe it. I hope that some one could explane me (us) what is it? I couldn't believe such a behaviour on this forum. Never seen before and I am there since so many time!!!
About the sharing: where did the spirit of this forum go???

It is obvious you did not even bother to ask any moderator or the admin before starting this thread. Please follow those procedures before you start a new thread accusing a mod of being sneaky and underhanded. This thread is closed as it will not lead to anything productive. We will look into it.
In the future please afford everyone the respect of actually looking into a matter before publicly accusing people of anything.

Banned Luana P because it's an SOCK-puppet account (reg. IP matches the IP of another user).
This account has been opend by another member to accuse other people and keep the "master" safe.

Sharing: free or for money?

i am opening this thread somehow inspired by the endless debate concerning if dutty did or did not something blamable. as long as my thought is somehow off topic related to that thread i preffered to open a new one
so, i am asking you guys from this forum (supposed a friendly and share free forum) about your opinion concerning applications that are posted here.
are you agree that guys, or companies that are developing applications for which they charge a certain amount of money to post their work here?
i am not talking about request for donation, but about applications that you can download only for money
if you look around this forum you will find some of these applications and you will understand what i mean
i belive this forum is a HUGE marketing tool and, if those guys are allowed to post their work here free of charge, then they also should make these applications free
if not, i belive the admins of this site should delete any threads, post, links, whatever, about these kind of applications
this is my opinion and i strongly belive that sharing under this forum should remain free of charge.
what do you think?

I really think that taking this matter again is not good for this community, the forum Administrator explained all and this thread has no sense.

speed200 said:
I really think that taking this matter again is not good for this community, the forum Administrator explained all and this thread has no sense.
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totally agree with this

speed200 said:
I really think that taking this matter again is not good for this community, the forum Administrator explained all and this thread has no sense.
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sorry, i probably missed that
if you people think is useless, then a mod or admin can close the thread

Late Update: I have already discussed this with the OP using PM. I'm just updating this to be a little clearer on the actions.
Below is an update for everyone else.
Selling (Pay to download) apps on xda-devs is not allowed. Please feel free to contact me, another moderator or the site admin if you have any furtehr questions on this.
If you've found an app you'd like looking at, hit the "report post" button
Thanks
Dave

itransmogrify

I have recently come off of using an iphone and started using the dream and was wondering if it was possible to port itransmogrify to the dream. I am posting this because I here so much complaining about lack of flash support and wondered if this could be a possible solution to the problem. I am well aware that this is far from full flash support but I found myself constantly using it on the iphone and to say the least it is very convenient to have. Here is the link to the itransmogrify website http://joemaller.com/2008/1/12/itransmogrify/.
Please do not flame me if this is not useful or if it needs to be posted somewhere else if it already is posted somewhere else I am simply trying to help the community out by showing the developers something they may not have previously been aware of. I really hope this helps.
P.s
I own both the iphone and the dream and hands down the dream is better!

sticky
What sticky would that be read them all and this has nothing to do with any of them thos isn't a question and it also does not fall under any of the [ROM],[REF]...etc catagories and I've allready searched to make sure there was nothing on this subject so what is the problem. Maybe everyone should go read the giant post that say new forum rules that informs everyone not to falme? All I was trying to do was offer information I felt was usefull to developers to see if this could help the comunity in any way. When I had my HTC excaliber I was on xda every day and never had any problems I just started using the dream and I feel like everyone here is so hostile towards eachother what's the deal? Is this not a community? Didme posting this thread hurt anyone? Because in my eyes the most it can do is help but I gues I'm wrong sorry for posting have a mod delete it I guess.

I was offering information that someone who didn't have an iphone would not know about sorry that there is a question in it. Is there a place to post something that could be useful to a developer please direct me there and this is useless so do one of the following reply with something relevant to the topic move/delete the thread or just don't say anything because all that will do is waste server space thanks in advanced great feedback on the subject so far.

MOD EDIT - Thread moved to Q&A
Can we try and act civilized towards each other
Ta
Rick

Xperia ROM development forum is a mess!!

Xperia ROM development forum is a mess!!

Guys,
every day i see a new thread created by some users.
It is mostly like, how can i do this, how can i do that.
It is really simple, if you want to ask something about an option or a function that isn;t working then please post in the corresponding thread so we can have a clean forum.
Here is a link to the rules:http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
please read it guys, it is very annoying to see a new thread everytime.
mods, please put some time in this xperia forum with cleaning out the ''litter''
@ all, thank you very much for your cooperation.

Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?

i understand what ur saying but a im pretty sure a mod has just moved some of the useless threads because a lot of them have been moved

Shazad.K said:
Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
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Stop complaining... j/k
No, I think you made your point. You don't need any more spamming of THIS thread.

yeah thats right the forum is mess
but why?
the people are lazy to read
i hope we can change this in the future....
greetZ
and to all other Merry X MAS

Shazad.K said:
Now @ 203 views and nobody has left a comment or suggestion or something like that?
I think this is what the community has become, like only get what you need and then use it and then complaining, no suggestions or anything, no thanks for the chefs ?
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No.
I think people read your post and ignored it because it contained nothing useful in itself. It's a public forum, if you want neat and tidy you're probably in the wrong place.
I'm not looking to pick argument it just seems to me your original post was pointless. In most cases the title of a thread gives you enough info to decided whether it's worthy of reading.
Sure there are plenty of people who come here just to get what they want and give nothing back, again it's the nature of the beast. But I think there's still plenty of people who are willing to give as well as take and on a whole the forum still functions well.
My biggest gripe would be people asking questions answered on the previous page (i.e. lack of search) not untidiness.
Also I think the X1 forum has lost a lot of active members to the LEO forum recently. Again this is inevitable given the age of the device and the progression of handsets.
The LEO thread is much more active currently IMO. POP over there, don't forget most of what they're discussing applies to our device too.

pheL said:
yeah thats right the forum is mess
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Confirm, a bit..
pheL said:
but why?
the people are lazy to read
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this is true, but some can also give reasons (which are also true) that some threads are really huge, specially good rom threads, on average they are 1000 posts longs, some go as long as 11,000 posts (valkyrie), when someone new get a rom and gets a small bug, it is really impossible to read all past thread, and unfortunately the thread search is not always helpful...
the best thing for a rom forum is to be a wiki, where each rom gets a page with generic information, and links to threads of sub pages that have useful information, like how to fix a known bug, or where to get an app that does that thing..... and leave the bla bla discussions or personal opinions on the forum.
some rom developers follow such a method, but partially, in the first few posts reserved for the rom you sometimes find links to common issues and solutions, but after a while everything gets messy again....
a ROM is a "product" that needs its own area or even a forum by itself. not a single forum for many products, this brings the mess....
but this need much organization, the price to be less messy

Newbies don't know their way around
Shazad.K said:
Guys,
every day i see a new thread created by some users.
It is mostly like, how can i do this, how can i do that.
It is really simple, if you want to ask something about an option or a function that isn;t working then please post in the corresponding thread so we can have a clean forum.
Here is a link to the rules:http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=256
please read it guys, it is very annoying to see a new thread everytime.
mods, please put some time in this xperia forum with cleaning out the ''litter''
@ all, thank you very much for your cooperation.
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You are right and its mostly down to newbies. I'm someone who makes a point of holding off on posting on a few forum until I see the layout, get the rules, etc. so I don't annoy seasoned members and get a bad rep for being stupid.
A lot of new members to the site are a bit out of their depth (I know I was when I first joined) and its not really only being used as a developers forum/site any more. If you're a newbie you've got two choices: (1) ask, (2) spend countless hours trying to work it out for yourself.
I guess the lazy ones are a bit thread happy!
EmuX
P.S. You can show people the rules but you can't make them read.
P.P.S. Isn't this another one of those clogging up threads that aren't anything to do with ROM dev though?! (joke)

I hovered around in the X1 forum for a little more than a year, and most recently, after getting a new (additional) toy, I moved over to another forum, the one which is mentioned here already.
Frankly spoken, I have the perception that the X1 forum here is quite in order, while the HD2 forum is a real mess. For many "similar" problems and questions, many newcomers open a new thread instead of using the search function. In case of the X1 forum, there is much more "discipline".
Plus, the mods of the forums are quite effective here, I would say.
I am still very thankful that xda devs exists, thanks to all who contribute, especially the cooks... and also to those who help understanding the forum (and its rules) to newcomers. All of us started "small" and as "newb", no? And from time to time, I try to help, too - even if I am just an "average" user.

Mods please close thread
I think the point is made.
mods, please close this thread

im partly responsible for your this thread and once agian, i am sorry....i promise u it wont happen again..
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. ~Winston Churchill
Sorry to all the mods and admins again...