Ordered from Clove at 13:45 yesterday. In my hands 08:25 this morning
More pics here: http://flickr.com/photos/rakh1/sets/72157605692676038/
WOW it looks same as mine imppossible !
you're joking! I was PROMISSED exclusivity - I want my money back
Got mine from Devicewire too.
Notice there's no TMobile auto config settings, unlike the asian version that did have them. Odd.
what rom version do you have?
Congrats man!!
Btw, didn't it come with a slide-in case?
Mine came with it..
Damn YOU!
I told you about clove first and mine hasnt arived yet booo hoooo
Its only 10:40 tho, so should be here soon... whats your rom version?
Congrats mate...i ordered mine last night from mobilefun...thinking that they might be in stock today. Rung them up this morning and asked them, told me that they are expecting stock tommorrow but seeing as i placed my order last night...theres a good chance that i wont get it till next week. So i cancelled with them and ordered with Clove, spoke to the guy there and he said they definitely have stock so should have mine by tommorrow fingers crossed.
Cant wait till i have it, for past few weeks ive been umming and ahhing about buying one but thought i might as well...if i dont like it, ill just return it for a refund.
Someone1234 where did you order yours from mate??
No slide in case
ROM: 1.37.405.1 WWE 06/10/08
RADIO: 1.00.25.03
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09H
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Someone1234 where did you order yours from mate??
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Clove.. they do next day citylink. So unless you live way way out in the sitcks somewhere you'll definatly have it tommorow
My Citylink usually arives about 2pm - just where i am on their rounds i guess. Waiting... impatiently!!
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No slide in case
ROM: 1.37.405.1 WWE 06/10/08
RADIO: 1.00.25.03
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09H
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oooh, nice, any chance of a rom dump? I'm sure lots of people would jump through hoops for this version!
jerison said:
Congrats man!!
Btw, didn't it come with a slide-in case?
Mine came with it..
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Who did you order from? Was it inside the sealed box, or outside it? (wondering if the retailer added it, or it came inside the box in your market).
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oooh, nice, any chance of a rom dump? I'm sure lots of people would jump through hoops for this version!
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1.37.707.1 is being uploaded here!! (its the WWE edition)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401425
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1.37.707.1 is being uploaded here!! (its the WWE edition)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401425
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it's always good to have more than one option for downloads!
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it's always good to have more than one option for downloads!
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Yeah but i meant the one being uploaded is 1.37.707.1 which is newer than 1.37.405.1. Although it sounds to me its just a build version increase and probably no noticable changes.
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Clove.. they do next day citylink. So unless you live way way out in the sitcks somewhere you'll definatly have it tommorow
My Citylink usually arives about 2pm - just where i am on their rounds i guess. Waiting... impatiently!!
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Yeh i ended up ordering from there this morning as well, mobilefun just told me that its highly unlikely that i would get my diamond by this week etc. So cancelled with them and went with Clove who said ill have it by tommorrow.
BUT just received a call from them, seems like my cc people wont authorise the transaction which kinda sucks because last week i paid £2k towards my CC...so the balance should be clear to authorise the purchase. Rung up my cc company and they are saying they havent received any payment. So now i gotta pop down to my bank today and see the bank manager and find out why the hell my cc company havent received any payments from me. Fustrated isnt the word lol...oh well hopefully by tommorrow it should be sorted out im hoping...means that ill have to wait till Sat for my Diamond..thats if they deliver on a Sat...clove that is.
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...means that ill have to wait till Sat for my Diamond..thats if they deliver on a Sat...clove that is.
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Wow that sucks! No other credit card? Borrow one!
haha maybe you're not as OCD as me
Still no diamond here.. bloody citylink.. although its 1 hour to their usual drop off time.
someone1234 said:
Wow that sucks! No other credit card? Borrow one!
haha maybe you're not as OCD as me
Still no diamond here.. bloody citylink.. although its 1 hour to their usual drop off time.
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I used to have a couple of others but i cancelled them as the APR rate on them were terrible. Plus im no good with CC's...so one is more than enough for me.
I spoke to Clove and they said that if my cc is cleared by tommorrow morning, they can deliver on Sat but ill have to pay for Royal mail special delivery as Citylink do not deliver on a Sat. Said it will cost me a couple of quid extra which i have no problem with. In a way id rather it be delivered by special delivery as they do deliver on a sat 99% of the time and they usually deliver first thing in the morning.
Plus im not a fan of citylink to be honest, have let me down plenty of times in the past.
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Plus im not a fan of citylink to be honest, have let me down plenty of times in the past.
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LOL just as i read that line i had a knock on the door. Citylink.. my diamond is here!
wow the box is much smaller than i expected
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Wow the inside box is much better than i expected... and holy #$%@$^ (insert expletive) its one tinyyyy phone
Why am I not experiencing this excitment yet
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Like the title says...: who of you here already scored a retail TyTN II unit, and where did you get it from? Does is meet up to your expectations?
Anyone got any accurate info on shipping throughout europe? (the Expansys estimate is usually bollocks )
Oh man, it's drivin' me crazy... Can't wait to finally get my hands on one...
Moaske said:
Anyone got any accurate info on shipping throughout europe? (the Expansys estimate is usually bollocks )
Oh man, it's drivin' me crazy... Can't wait to finally get my hands on one...
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Check out my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326262
Also, by looking through some online retailers, seems like Kaiser indeed is coming for real someday next week. I'm very very tempted, and I've said in other topic I will wait a little bit more, but.. I could change my mind quickly and place order any second.
Expansys has it today..... Get it while it lasts
Click here
Modaco have a special package deal with expansys
Same price as Expansys normal price
http://www.modaco.com/HTC-TyTN-II-MoDaCo-Speci-t258736.html
Gordon
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Expansys has it today..... Get it while it lasts
Click here
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THEY DONT HAVE IT IN STOCK!
JUST SPOKE WITH THEM!!!!
ONLY TILL 14.09.2007!
ALL THE STOCK THEY HAD IS FOR PRE-ORDERS!
SOO MAD !
NADAVI
I know, just got an email telling me my pre order is awaiting collection.Sweet.
Got 2 ordered today
i originally ordered through expansys last week, they got stock today but not enough for all orders.
So i went to he distributer, www.devicewire.co.uk they have 273 in stock.
Enjoy...
lokidan said:
i originally ordered through expansys last week, they got stock today but not enough for all orders.
So i went to he distributer, www.devicewire.co.uk they have 273 in stock.
Enjoy...
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Just curious - how many people in the US are going to drop $1,000 (479 GBP) just to order this thing today, when they can probably get it for $300-$400 (either from AT&T or a reseller in a couple of weeks)?
Maybe y'all have more money than me, it just seems like kind of a waste....
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Just curious - how many people in the US are going to drop $1,000 (479 GBP) just to order this thing today, when they can probably get it for $300-$400 (either from AT&T or a reseller in a couple of weeks)?
Maybe y'all have more money than me, it just seems like kind of a waste....
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I have waited this long....I think I will wait some more.
hehe im ordering mine tonight. I cant do a upgrade as im on a employee type plan where we pay for our eqiup so why not.
Today at noon UK time I received my TyTN II. Oh wait, let's rephrase that. I was so impatient that I went and picked it up from the local DHL facility ;-)
I had an e-mail from the courier yesterday to say that they'd be delivering mine today. Unfortunately I'm in meetings all day, so there was no way I could be at home to take delivery.
Took all my effort to change the delivery date to tomorrow, so now I'm going to be 24 hours behind everyone else :-(
Happy Kaiser-ing to everyone who got theirs today though. I'm off to play with my dumb old Hermes for the last time....!
"I'm off to play with my dumb old Hermes for the last time....!"
Awee - be nice to the Hermes - it was good to you whilst it lasted
R
mine will arrive in 10 hours ...
i ordered one from devicewire.com to hongkong day b4 yesterday and just tracked the DHL and called, they will deliver my phone in 10 hours!!!
Would i be right in thinking that if i 'need' this phone ASAP, i'm looking at no less than £450?
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Would i be right in thinking that if i 'need' this phone ASAP, i'm looking at no less than £450?
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Yep, and that will be excluding shipping charges ...
Sooooooooooooo tempted to get my credit card and order one now, from cloves.co.uk lol
Any dutchies on this board who got one from within the netherlands already...?
Man, this waiting is driving me crazy...
Since i ordered a UK version with our distributor, they should be able to deliver this week i hope
I'm checking DHL tracking for updates every 5 minutes. I must stop. I have work to do. I'm getting behind. Just checked again, no change. What if it's delayed? Then I may not get it on Friday, will have to wait all weekend. Lord help me. Is it really that much better than the TyTN I anyway?
OMFG I JUST ORDERED ONE
£469 >.< i just wont check my bank account for awhile lol
Yo Wiz
Wiz - Notice you have a pretty powerful arsenal of devices:
HTC X7500 WM6
HTC TyTN II WM6
Treo 750 WM6
Which one have PROs and CONs ?
Does the TyTN II hold its own ?
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"I'm off to play with my dumb old Hermes for the last time....!"
Awee - be nice to the Hermes - it was good to you whilst it lasted
R
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Very true. And it'll be passed to the wife now, so it'll continue to do a good job for us. (Sorry Hermes!)
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Would i be right in thinking that if i 'need' this phone ASAP, i'm looking at no less than £450?
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i paid £437.5 total shipped via DHL from uk to hongkong. i got it already. took 3 days total.
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i paid £437.5 total shipped via DHL from uk to hongkong. i got it already. took 3 days total.
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Where did you order it from in the UK? Seems the cheapest so far....
Feel lucky to of got a few Diamonds from expansys before stock running out on the 10th of June, anybody know where i can get a Diamond in the UK which is not pre order and before end of June?
ebay power seller:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130228910138
389 including delivery, a hell of alot cheaper than expansys!
Remember it WILL be an import, and these guys probably won't handle shipping it to HK for you, like expansys say they will. (assuming HTC don't do worldwide waranty).
I just ordered one. These guys are pretty well known and have been around forever. Hopefully will be here tommorow
How annoying of TotalPDA! I've also chickened out and gone for the ebay route (hope it actually comes, I've had problems with ebay in the past S), even tho it's an import it's still the cheapest out there and you all know we'll end up with a custom rom anyway P
If it does come I'll let you all know.... this guy's gonna love us if he's genuine!
I know people who've used these guys before, so i'm prett confident it'll come. I'll also let you know when mine arives
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I know people who've used these guys before, so i'm prett confident it'll come. I'll also let you know when mine arives
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Did you choose the express option? I did but I think i've missed the deadline for today.
someone1234 said:
ebay power seller:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130228910138
389 including delivery, a hell of alot cheaper than expansys!
Remember it WILL be an import, and these guys probably won't handle shipping it to HK for you, like expansys say they will. (assuming HTC don't do worldwide waranty).
I just ordered one. These guys are pretty well known and have been around forever. Hopefully will be here tommorow
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Can you let us all know how much RAM your device has. My understanding is that the official UK version is 192 MB and any import available now is only 128 MB.
thanks, cojo
I have import from HK - ebay - 192 MB RAM
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Can you let us all know how much RAM your device has. My understanding is that the official UK version is 192 MB and any import available now is only 128 MB.
thanks, cojo
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128MB is only on the pre-release versions. All diamonds brought legally, no matter where you get it, will have 192MB (bear in mind 64Mb is used for the OS). The main difference is which bands it will work on as the US have different operating bands for GSM and UMTS than Europe/Asia
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Can you let us all know how much RAM your device has. My understanding is that the official UK version is 192 MB and any import available now is only 128 MB.
thanks, cojo
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As said above, only the pre release ones had 128mb. I think this 'rumour' about imports came from one or two posts (maybe the same guy) where the user was looking at the user ram total and available. This doesnt take into account the ram the ROM uses. If you search for the posts you'll see that a few posts later its clarified, but by then its too late - people are posting everywhere its 128mb already!
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As said above, only the pre release ones had 128mb. I think this 'rumour' about imports came from one or two posts (maybe the same guy) where the user was looking at the user ram total and available. This doesnt take into account the ram the ROM uses. If you search for the posts you'll see that a few posts later its clarified, but by then its too late - people are posting everywhere its 128mb already!
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Have you received yours through ebay yet. I've received an email today saying it has been sent out so I should get mine tomorrow
iainparkes said:
Have you received yours through ebay yet. I've received an email today saying it has been sent out so I should get mine tomorrow
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Thanks for clarifying the RAM query. I ordered mine through yer ebay chap this morning but have only received the auto conf email. I chose express delivery and am eagerly awaiting the 'dispatched' email. Be interested to hear if yours turns up on time and your initial thoughts tho...
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Have you received yours through ebay yet. I've received an email today saying it has been sent out so I should get mine tomorrow
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Not yet. I didnt get a despatched email either, but i supose thats because yours was sent by some courier with a tracking code?
I ordered it 1pm yesterday, so i expect it should be here tommorow via Royal Mail special delivery - assuming they did ship it already!
Don't worry i'll post on here as soon as i get it
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Not yet. I didnt get a despatched email either, but i supose thats because yours was sent by some courier with a tracking code?
I ordered it 1pm yesterday, so i expect it should be here tommorow via Royal Mail special delivery - assuming they did ship it already!
Don't worry i'll post on here as soon as i get it
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I ordered mine at 3pm yesterday, received a dispatched email this morning. The tracking is only a Royal Mail thing as I have asked for next day/express
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I ordered mine at 3pm yesterday, received a dispatched email this morning. The tracking is only a Royal Mail thing as I have asked for next day/express
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i'm confused. It seems you are receiving dispatched mails within a day or two of placing the order, with express shipping. I too chose express shipping when I ordered yesterday morning and I received this email from them this morning saying...
"Your item is due for dispatch.Sorry for keep you waiting,but as per our listing,for all the high value item,we need 5 working days to arrange delivery upon receive payment.You will get the tracking number after delivery,thanks!"
This suggests that they aren't going to dispatch it for another FOUR days despite having my money and me meeting all their criteria for express delivery. This is a little worrying. If they have stock why wait 5 days before sending it? I smell something fishy, do you think they are importing on order?
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I smell something fishy, do you think they are importing on order?
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You might be right. I checked with the friends who said they have used these guys before...
They ship anytime between 0 and 5 days with the normal shipping, they say its an anti fraud measure - probably to make sure your not ordering to some empty house and breaking in on the next day to get it
Thats plausable, but i think its probably to get you to pay the extra 10 quid for express, or to allow them to get stock (import).
I didnt pick the express option thinking it would be 1 to 3 days max. Mine still hasnt shipped yet
I'm confident talking to my friends you'll get the phone - but i think your right, they are importing to order with a small buffer which has probably run out.
BTW has anyone received their phone from these guys yet? Can you check the rom version please?
Well i decided to buy one, just placed a pre-order with TotalPda as they seem to be the cheapest for uk spec models...£445 with del included. Told me that i should have the phone by the 24th of this month.
Not really sure if i will keep it but they did say i could return it if im not happy so ill have a play for a few days before making up my mind on whether to keep it or not.
I do hope that i fall in love with it or else ill be waiting for the Sony Xperia X1.
update
Blimey, we're all so eager, us gadget freaks aren't we...seems I just didn't have the patience, got this earlier...
"Hi,
GREAT NEWS - YOUR ITEM HAS BEEN DISPATCHED!!
*********** IMPORTANT INFO FOR MOBILE PHONE CUSTOMERS **********
We supply a Royal Mail Recorded or Royal Mail International Signed for reference
number for
every phone. This information is on Paypal and you should have an email
direct from Paypal
with this information. (Royal Mail do not supply detailed tracking information,
just
confirmation of delivery). If you do not have this information, First check
online with Paypal
or 2nd ask us."
I got the reference number, but what good is it to me if it isn't valid until after delivery?!!
Also, RM do provide tracking numbers as standard with special delivery, which next day is so I'm still confused!!!
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Not really sure if i will keep it but they did say i could return it if im not happy so ill have a play for a few days before making up my mind on whether to keep it or not.
I do hope that i fall in love with it or else ill be waiting for the Sony Xperia X1.
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I know what you mean...I want the Xperia too. Some sites say next month so taking all into account I'm guessing I'll be getting it early September!!
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I know what you mean...I want the Xperia too. Some sites say next month so taking all into account I'm guessing I'll be getting it early September!!
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Well i was under the impression that it was going to be Sept but now they arent so sure..some are saying Jan/Feb 2009 which if they wait that long then its game over for Sony Ericsson...i really do hope its Sept when its released.
In the meantime ill wait for the Diamond and see how i get on with it...i have a feeling from what i have been reading here and other forums...that ill end up sending it back for a refund and wait for the X1. But im hoping the UK spec of the Diamond will be better than the grey imports that alot of people have...its been delayed due to HTC fixing some software issues or so i have heard.
Been monitoring and just (in the last hour) seen Play.com change their date from 13/06 to 27/06, so going to have to wait another two weeks for my order - damn.
Still £429 inc. VAT and delivery though
Has anyone ordered a Diamond from these people? If so did you receive it ok.
I ordered mine on Tuesday at 3pm with express delivery. I received my dispatch notice and a recorded delivery tracking number on Wednesday morning. As I normally get 1st Class post the day after I was expecting it to arrive Thursday but it hasn't, neither did it arrive today. I gather as it's in the post system it's a royal mail delay but I've never had a problem before. (Also Royal Mail are the most unhelpful people around...long story)
htc diam
I got from ebay all ok...
This seller _http://myworld.ebay.com/new_generation_phones
If you got a tracking number, what is the tracking system saying?
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Has anyone ordered a Diamond from these people? If so did you receive it ok.
I ordered mine on Tuesday at 3pm with express delivery. I received my dispatch notice and a recorded delivery tracking number on Wednesday morning. As I normally get 1st Class post the day after I was expecting it to arrive Thursday but it hasn't, neither did it arrive today. I gather as it's in the post system it's a royal mail delay but I've never had a problem before. (Also Royal Mail are the most unhelpful people around...long story)
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Have you emailed the seller??. I bought a phone off him earlier this yr, a blackberry 8310 curve for my bro in Canada and it took him nearly a week or so to post it...wasnt impressed with his service and gave him neutral feedback. Also have you not checked the royalmail website for the tracking info??. Although that wont be of any use as its not updated till the parcel is delivered.
But i would email the seller and ask him what exactly is going on??.
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Tracking system just says the item has not been delivered. All the RM tracking can tell you is when it was delivered so you dont know at what stage it is, just that it's somewhere but not delivered....handy I know. It is a valid tracking number tho as I tried changing a digit and it said it was invalid.
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Has anyone ordered a Diamond from these people? If so did you receive it ok.
I ordered mine on Tuesday at 3pm with express delivery. I received my dispatch notice and a recorded delivery tracking number on Wednesday morning. As I normally get 1st Class post the day after I was expecting it to arrive Thursday but it hasn't, neither did it arrive today. I gather as it's in the post system it's a royal mail delay but I've never had a problem before. (Also Royal Mail are the most unhelpful people around...long story)
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I'm in exactly the same situation as you, except one day later...
I've emailed the seller to find out more tho.
I've received mine today. Tis brand new (didnt realize the box is pyramid shaped :S).
It's got:
192Mb RAM
256Mb Flash
3832.5Mb Internal Storage
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I've received mine today. Tis brand new (didnt realize the box is pyramid shaped :S).
It's got:
192Mb RAM
256Mb Flash
3832.5Mb Internal Storage
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I got mine today too.so far so good. actually its great!
hahahha
the box isnt pyramid shaped!!!
its DIAMOND shaped!!!!!!
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the box isnt pyramid shaped!!!
its DIAMOND shaped!!!!!!
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Not really, a diamond is more...er diamond shaped?! :S
hi
can u post some pics of what u recieved?
thnx,
I ordered on Tuesday around 1pm.. still not even a shipping notification.
Play.com will have UK version on 19th (3 days)
Insight will have UK version on 18th (2 days)
Inkino/htcdirect.co.uk will have UK version on 17th (1 day)
So i've requested a full refund. I should have just waited
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I ordered on Tuesday around 1pm.. still not even a shipping notification.
Play.com will have UK version on 19th (3 days)
Insight will have UK version on 18th (2 days)
Inkino/htcdirect.co.uk will have UK version on 17th (1 day)
So i've requested a full refund. I should have just waited
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Hmmm interesting, i just rung up totalpda and they still say its the 24th they will have stock in. Rung up Inkino and they are saying that this thurs or fri they should have stock in but their allocation has sold out plus they are selling them at £470 with delivery. Insight havent a clue to be honest, although their website says they 50 coming in...they are all sold out but also said stock is due in end of week. When i asked about their refund/return policy..they said you can return it but will be charged a restocking fee of 20%. Spoke to play.com and they are expecting stock in on 19th so have placed an order with them as they are cheapest at the moment. Still have my pre-order with totalpda as well as i will wait and see what happens with play.com...whether they deliver on the 19th or not.
Look on the bright side though, at least you will have a proper uk spec model rather than an imported one ie grey.
Yeah, actually what changed my mind was the issues people are having.
There seems to be a distinct difference in issues between people with the older 1.34 rom and 1.35 rom. So I'm hoping the UK rom will be even better. We don't really know how long it will take for the hard SPL to work on the new diamonds, and when HTC will release an update for the HK version.
I think at this rate it'll be out on T-Mobile by the time i get hold of one
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Yeah, actually what changed my mind was the issues people are having.
There seems to be a distinct difference in issues between people with the older 1.34 rom and 1.35 rom. So I'm hoping the UK rom will be even better. We don't really know how long it will take for the hard SPL to work on the new diamonds, and when HTC will release an update for the HK version.
I think at this rate it'll be out on T-Mobile by the time i get hold of one
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Well i am hoping that the uk spec Diamond i get wont have these issues that people seem to be having with the grey imports. Still not 100% sure if ill keep it but ill have a few days playing with it and see how i get on with it. If i dont then ill just wait for the Sony Xperia X1 which is due out Sept or Oct according to the guy at Inkino. I would wait for tmobile but my contract doesnt renew till next yr so i might end up getting the Touch pro when my contract comes up for renewal.
Anyone had positive dealings with htcdirect.co.uk before? Think I might order from here, would do play but they order to billing and I need it sent to work.
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Anyone had positive dealings with htcdirect.co.uk before? Think I might order from here, would do play but they order to billing and I need it sent to work.
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I would imagine they are fine although they havent got a contact number...can only contact them via email.
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I would imagine they are fine although they havent got a contact number...can only contact them via email.
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Yeah, which makes me doubt them a little.
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Yeah, which makes me doubt them a little.
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Same reason as me, id like to order from them but not really sure to be honest. In the meantime ive sent them an email asking if they will definitley have them in stock and whether they are proper uk models. Also enquired about their returns policy etc.
If i get an answer soon, ill post back