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I'm referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45295
(Cingular 8125 users: 2 custom RUU upgraders available on ftp)
What's the benefit of using that over the stock cingular rom? It still has goodlink and expressmail installed so it's not really saving any space. Does it just offer a better OS with less errors and more speed?
Also, referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47052
(Cingular 8125 users: 217 ROM w/ fonts, themes, oclock on ftp)
I can see some improvements. Themes, ringtones, and omapclock have been installed while goodlink and expressmail have been removed. I don't need the themes, ringtones, or omapclock.exe... but since this version doesn't have goodlink or expressmail this would be better for me then the first ROM I listed correct?
I can't test myself yet because my 8125 doesn't get here for another 12 hours or so. But I'm trying to prepare so when I get it I know exactly what to install to get it up and running ASAP. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
In the first case, there were two ROMs listed for download - one is the stock Cingular 1.8 ROM and one was upgraded to the MSFP/AKU2 ROM with the Cingular customizations. When this was first posted, neither HTC America, nor Cingular, made the original ROM version available for download - so if you upgraded to one of the other ROM's, it was virtually impossible to go back to the stock Cingular ROM.
In the other case, a lot of the ringers and themes are now stored in ROM, in lieu of taking up memory. It is a personal preference.
I upgraded to the AKU2 update ROM from the first thread so I could get Push Mail. Plus it is significantly faster than the original Cingular ROM.
Is there a post about all the versions of ROM?
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but I'm just a baby beginner when it comes to Wizards... just switched from HP 6515. I don't even know what AKU2 means, nor which update would be best for my needs.
I'd like to learn about it. But don't want people to write what has already been written, so could you provide me some links to the "history" of ROMs?
Thanks...
MargaL said:
Is there a post about all the versions of ROM?
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but I'm just a baby beginner when it comes to Wizards... just switched from HP 6515. I don't even know what AKU2 means, nor which update would be best for my needs.
I'd like to learn about it. But don't want people to write what has already been written, so could you provide me some links to the "history" of ROMs?
Thanks...
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Browse this forum and you'll learn plenty. AKU2 is essentially like a service pack. It inludes OS fixes, and in the case of AKU2, it adds support for Microsoft's Direct Push, which requires an Exchange (service pack 2) account to function.
There's really only three major ROM types for the Wizard: the shipping version which came on your device, modified 2.0X ROMs which include Direct Push and support for bluetooth stereo, and 2.X ROMs which include Direct Push but NOT bluetooth stereo. The various 2.X ROMs you see are just various AKU2 releases from different vendors like QTek or Imate, as well as custom variations of those ROMs.
You're most likely to run across custom ROMs US carriers T-Mobile and Cingular, because they have yet to release official AKU2 ROMs.
What are your needs and who's your carrier?
Thank you for your explanation. This is actually where my journey to the world of Wizards begin
My provider is Cingular...
My needs? Hmm... tough one ;-)
Up till now I've been using HP 6515. Mostly for listening to music (not via BT) and ocasionally playing Microsoft's Cubicle Chaos. (Sometimes both at the same time)
I use some Today Screen plugins...
I'm a pretty heavy phone user (1-2 hours talk time per day) and messaging person (about 800 per month). I don't use GPRS, since Cingular's prices on it simply SUCK!
And I'm always looking for some new uses for my phone...
MargaL said:
My provider is Cingular...
My needs? Hmm... tough one ;-)
Up till now I've been using HP 6515. Mostly for listening to music (not via BT) and ocasionally playing Microsoft's Cubicle Chaos. (Sometimes both at the same time)
I use some Today Screen plugins...
I'm a pretty heavy phone user (1-2 hours talk time per day) and messaging person (about 800 per month). I don't use GPRS, since Cingular's prices on it simply SUCK!
And I'm always looking for some new uses for my phone...
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OK then, I think the custom 2.17 Cingular ROM is appropriate for you. It has push mail, but since you won't be using that, you'll at least gain the benefits of improved stability and performance.
Check out the thread I started about 2 custom ROMs for CIngular users being available on the ftp. There's a link directly to the 2.17 installer.
Be aware that you will lose anything you've installed, so you'll have to reinstall everything to your liking as you did when the device was new.
Thanks a lot, Summiter.
You've given me a lot of explanation and I'm grateful to you.
I'll sure check out that thread.
Cheers.
Hi there summiter.
I want to download/install the ROM you are mentioning, but the FTP link in your post is broken...may you offer some help as to where I can find it?
I have a Cingular 8125 that I'd like to update with the 2.17 ROM you mention.
Nevermind, I found a working link in another post.
Going to try the 2.17 with AKU2, Ringers, and oclock. I'll see how it goes!
How to -exactly
I too am new in the HTC world having come from years of Blackberrries. The info on the ROM upgrades is clear and it seems an upgrade to the 2.17 would be good for me, but I need to know *how* to flash and upgrade and haven't found any step-by-step's in this forum for those basic items. I have no problem finding the files, downlaoding the files from the FTP sites, etc- I just need to know what the difference between "flash" and "update" are - and how to execute those two tasks.
Thanks,
-Marc
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mokla40 said:
I too am new in the HTC world having come from years of Blackberrries. The info on the ROM upgrades is clear and it seems an upgrade to the 2.17 would be good for me, but I need to know *how* to flash and upgrade and haven't found any step-by-step's in this forum for those basic items. I have no problem finding the files, downlaoding the files from the FTP sites, etc- I just need to know what the difference between "flash" and "update" are - and how to execute those two tasks.
Thanks,
-Marc
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Flash and update are used interchangeably. When you update, you are flashing a new ROM onto your device.
As far as step-by-step goes, I've posted several, but..
establish an activesync connection
CID unlock with aWizard
device reset
establish an activesync connection
run the ROM isntaller of choice
mpaolo said:
Hi there summiter.
I want to download/install the ROM you are mentioning, but the FTP link in your post is broken...may you offer some help as to where I can find it?
I have a Cingular 8125 that I'd like to update with the 2.17 ROM you mention.
Nevermind, I found a working link in another post.
Going to try the 2.17 with AKU2, Ringers, and oclock. I'll see how it goes!
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Sorry about that..I fixed the links
Does anyone have any screen shots of what the upgraded cingular rom looks like?
Does it have the looks and feel of the original rom?
Thanks
redrover said:
Does anyone have any screen shots of what the upgraded cingular rom looks like?
Does it have the looks and feel of the original rom?
Thanks
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Unless you decide to use one of the added themes, then yep it looks exactly the same. As far as feel, well that's relative, but most folks report it feels a bit snappier. It retains the Cingular splash screen at startup.
New owner of a BA (O2 Xda IIs branded)
ROM:
Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU3.5 v1.4 Vanilla
Boot screen after a reset shows:
R: 1.15.00
G: 1337.45
D: 5.04.09.WWE
System Settings, About shows:
MW5 w/ the Messaging and Security Feature Pack
OS 5.1.195 (build 15698.3.5.0)
Applied patches:
BT Icon
Camera Patch
Flight Mode Patch
Applied registry changes:
Timezone and time update (doesn't seem to work)
I have looked all over the wiki and the forums trying to figure out if I have the latest versions of everything, and to say the least I'm confused.
I keep seeing references to the iMate BT stack upgrade, Helmi's BT Widcomm BT upgrade, the seven or more other BT upgrades on the FTP. My eyes are starting to cross.
There is getting the audio (OS, media player, etc) to be redirected to the BT headset vs the device itself (can't figure this one out)
There is the Cyberon voice dialer vs MS VC 1.5/1.6. From what I can tell, VC 1.5 doesn't work, but 1.6 does, which I can't get to install, and either one is supposed to be better than the Cyberon dialer (which I did install).
And then there is the BT file sending and receiving stuff, which I can't seem to find anything on either.
Nor what is OK to install from the massive amount of tools and utilities on the FTP server...
The wiki doesn't really seem to cover this stuff in an order that I can figure out, so I'm posting for help.
(Yes, I did try to figure things out, but after I had to nuke, repave and resync my handheld after a bad Widcomm BT 1.0.0.3900 upgrade package install, I decided to ask).
Does anyone have any advice? If I can get enough of this info together, I'll be more than happy to update or add a page to the wiki.
OK, pretty much all of your questions have been answered numerous times before in other threads - you just need to look beyond the most recent page.
How do you know about the common problems, but you still can't find the solutions? They are usually on the same threads!
A good way of doing this is by using the search tool on the main nav bar. As I am very nice , I have given you a few of the answers to your problems:
BT Send and Recieve - I use xplode's AKU 3.5, which has no bluetooth send function in File Explorer. I am not in the know about whether Helmi's ROM has this. If not, the best option is Resco's excellent File Explorer 2005 - I purchased it, and have never regretted it. It includes numerous improvements to the standard File Explorer, including sending and recieving files via Bluetooth.
This is my reccomendation on that one
BT Headsets - I do not own one of these, so can't help you here, but I have heard it frequently mentioned on the forum, so look around.
Voice diallers - To be honest, it depends on which one you like the best personally - both have most of the same features. I suggest you try M$ VC 1.6, then 1.5 and if either of them work, be thankful for what you have
Tools on FTP - Due to a high number of viruses on their recently, I suggest you stear away unless you have a reason (which you don't seem to) and you know what you are doing.
BT Stacks - These are separate software - they are not different versions. I suggest you use MS stack, as it has the most support from other sofware - widdcom is oftem not supported. And I suggest you stop fretting about whether you have the latest version! You don't have any reason to want it!
This is all I can help you with.
If any of this is not accurate, I'm sorry, but I'm only trying to help. I don't know everything there is to know YET
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OK, pretty much all of your questions have been answered numerous times before in other threads - you just need to look beyond the most recent page.
How do you know about the common problems, but you still can't find the solutions? They are usually on the same threads!
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I have, and the answers are either for older versions of the ROM, or refer to having something on the device (say, the BT stack) be a certain version, which I can't figure out which one I have.
Here's as example: Trying to find out how to find which BT stack I have and the version/build. Hit the advanced forum search, limit the search to just the BA forums, search for "find bluetooth build", get 30 threads, many of which have over 200+ posts, many of which are a year or more old.
Searching for "switch, widcomm, microsoft, stack, wm5" brings up two threads, one which say don't do the tutorial listed on another site, it will brick the phone, and the other is discussing another cooked ROM and doesn't say anything about switching the stack.
Then there are things like this post about removing the 3 second ring delay and making sure the ringer is really loud (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109). I ran across that one doing the above listed search. No where in the wiki that I saw under the BA pages was that listed.
hardingt0110 said:
A good way of doing this is by using the search tool on the main nav bar.
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Yes, I am quite familiar with the search function.
hardingt0110 said:
As I am very nice , I have given you a few of the answers to your problems:
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While I do appreciate your effort, I'm afraid that none of my questions were answered.
BT send/receive, you say you don't know about Helmi's ROM as you don't use it, then recommend another piece of software (which I will look into, thanks)
Audio over the BT headset, you say you don't have one so you can't help.
Voice dialer, you suggest to try the MS ones, which I have said I have yet to find anything that states it will work on the ROM I have installed, much less where to find it.
FTP server virus scare. Eh, I'm not worried. I've very careful with unknown files and have AV and firewall software on the machine I run active sync on.
BT Stacks: There are different builds/versions out there from Widcomm, and I can't find anything on the MS stack. And yes I am going to worry about the different versions as there are reports of the various builds having better or worse performance and features.
I'm still confused on a lot of things. I'm trying to organize what I do find, but as I keep finding conflicting information, I'm getting no where.
I di thank you for the reply tho, and the pointer to the program. I still want to know about the ROM that is on my device tho.
jdc,
you got one of the best & the latest wm5 BA roms around. the choices anyway are xplode's aku 3.5, helmi's aku3.5 rom kitchen (similar to the vanilla version) & helmi/logout ROM.
if you want to add the latest additional programs, go download one of the earlier aku 3.5 v1.4 rom (non-vanilla) of helmi or xplode's aku 3.3 rom and extract the extended rom, add the dir to your storage card & reflash.
stop looking for newer versions at the ftp, all the threads of helmi & xplode are informative & comprehensive enough to answer your querries or provide you with the programs you may need. do check out the earlier aku3.3 threads of both so you can have an idea of what you are getting from the latest aku3.5roms. most if not all the progs you need are all there.
most of the confusion you have is because you strayed away from the thread you got the rom from. like the ms bt stack which is built-in in all the roms above, if you don't have problems with it then stick with it. if you read through the widcomm bt stack thread of helmi you will find out why some PREFER it. stress on that word because eventually it's your decision, like me i use ms bt because it serves my purpose well - i don't need to stream music to bt stereo headset, or transfer files using bt.
ms voice command v1.6 also works well in the roms. check out your version & file.
if you have any problem with other things, checkout the thread first before posting your problem & when you do post include all the info on your problem: i.e. bt reception problem using ms bt stack & hb200 in helmi aku3.x rom.
the ftp is a mix compilation of test files, new releases, & some very specific to a rom version. if you want to d/l something make sure it's from the directory of the rom ou have - ie.: helmi_c or xplode. stray from it at your own risk.
don't expect too much from wiki either, although the forum is moderated there are so much information to gather & compile to be as comprehensive for newbies. stick to the threads i've mentioned above, they are as good as the wiki. besides, xda-dev is not the iMate or Qtek or O2 forum where support is expected for the roms they publish. most of members here are enthusiast & sharing precious time & skills for free & for fun. (xda)-DEVELOPERS not users, although most users have benefited from it.
please don't get me wrong & get offended, i'm sparing you the bashing which others might give you for your post. oh i forgot, i'm a BA newbie too. "i've read all over", tried the roms, DECIDED to stick with it, and live with it & all the limitations this aku 3.5 brings (like smart dialing).
cheers!
rhmartin said:
jdc,
you got one of the best & the latest wm5 BA roms around. the choices anyway are xplode's aku 3.5, helmi's aku3.5 rom kitchen (similar to the vanilla version) & helmi/logout ROM.
if you want to add the latest additional programs, go download one of the earlier aku 3.5 v1.4 rom (non-vanilla) of helmi or xplode's aku 3.3 rom and extract the extended rom, add the dir to your storage card & reflash.
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*snip advice for finding apps for the ROM, which BT stack is in the ROM, and MS VC info*
OK, got it. That's what I was trying to figure out, thank you very much for the info.
rhmartin said:
don't expect too much from wiki either, although the forum is moderated there are so much information to gather & compile to be as comprehensive for newbies. stick to the threads i've mentioned above, they are as good as the wiki.
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Ok, I will do this. The amount of information at this site is overwhelming to say the least. My first stop has always been the wiki (which is what a newbie is supposed to do), followed by the forum search. I have spent days worth of time searching and reading both trying to figure things out before I posted anything (I've been reading the following the site as much as I can since the BA was the top of the line phone). Due to the amount of people always stating to check the wiki made it seem that the wiki was the final repository of information, which it isn't always per your post. This alone will help me find the info I may be looking for as I won't have to spend so much time looking both places and getting more and more frustrated in the process.
rhmartin said:
besides, xda-dev is not the iMate or Qtek or O2 forum where support is expected for the roms they publish. most of members here are enthusiast & sharing precious time & skills for free & for fun. (xda)-DEVELOPERS not users, although most users have benefited from it.
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Oh, believe me, I know this and don't expect the developers to drop everything, as it were, to answer any and all questions that come their way (I see enough people on some open source project mailing lists who do that already).
In fact, I went and signed up for a MSDN account today. I didn't see any info on developing for MW6, just 5 at the moment, but I hope that I will be able to give back to the community that has provided such a great resource.
rhmartin said:
please don't get me wrong & get offended, i'm sparing you the bashing which others might give you for your post. oh i forgot, i'm a BA newbie too. "i've read all over", tried the roms, DECIDED to stick with it, and live with it & all the limitations this aku 3.5 brings (like smart dialing).
cheers!
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Oh, I'm not offended in the least. You have provided me with good information, answered some of the sticking points I was running into, and gave me some very good advice and pointers on where to go from here. This is perfect for me. Now i know a bit more than I did before and know where to look.
I have no problem RTFMing, as it were, I just need to know where TFM is. :-D
Thanks again!
Hi,
i have been verry happy with my MDAII with one of the original german 1.72 ROMs, but as more and more tools seem only to run from 5.0+ i think the time has come to update.
So, as a noob, the question for me is: Use an 6.1 rom(which then?) or go straight to 6.5? What would you recommend regarding performance, stability, usability and program support... WWE or german would be fine for me.
Until now is used my hima basically as phone(profiles with PocketZenPhone), navigation(tomtom) and other gsp gimmicks (using gspgate) and to schedule my appointments/task(pocket informant).
Thanks for any help,-)
Frank
P.S.: From the look i would chose 6.5 but it seems like Spb Mobile Shell would allow such things also on 6.1 ???
First make sure you have a copy of your original rom,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510675
then you can test yourself.
Normally you can switch back and forth, as you like to.
Everything you need is in this forum, read ask the search button and use your brainpower!
UH, mystic!
Ups, I'm Senior now?!?
Okay, I searched and searched and I couldn't find a good solid answer.
I have Windows 6.1 Professional on my Tilt with Shifu's v19 ROM. I want to know if it's possible to flash a Windows 6.5 cooked ROM onto my phone.
Thanks in advance to a post I missed or any help.
daaaaayyummmm duuuuuddddeeee!!!
no need to search! isn't the ENTIRE Kaiser ROM Development section solid enough proof for you that 6.5 is possible and indeed a reality for quite a few Kaiser users on this forum?
Lol. Dude I'm completely new to this. I thought maybe if your phone came with 6.1, you could only use 6.1 ROMs.
I kinda feel dumb now.
huh? ummm the Kaiser was officially/originally released with WM6.0. people were flashing cooked WM6.1 before HTC released their own official WM6.1 update. WM6.5 will never officially come for the Kaiser. your phone already has a cooked ROM, certainly HTC didn't put it on there and you'll find all the ROMs, resources, and tutorials right here by searching to get a cooked WM6.5 on your phone, just like someone originally went through the same process to put the cooked WM6.1 you have on your device right now.
WM6.5 is an EVOLUTION of WM6.1 and so your device sees it no differently. typically, your upgrade paths become limited at best ONLY when a drastically different OS is released (such as the upcoming WM7, which will likely NOT run at all on the Kaiser, or Google's Android, for which you have to jump through quite a few hoops to get it working on your Kaiser).
for suggestions of good WM6.5 ROMs, see my signature. alternatively, it is better to read up about all the ROMs that seem interesting to YOU and try them out until you find one that works well for your purposes.
Ah okay. I put the existing ROM on there btw lol. I taught myself how to flash them, I just didn't know the details. Thanks for that explanation though. It really helped. That definitely broadens my variety lol.
well then you're half way there!
just be sure to read the FAQ of the particular WM6.5 ROM you pick. the flashing procedure for WM6.5 is pretty much the same as what you have taught yourself for WM6.1 except for a few subtle precautionary steps and changes in the sequence of steps (that don't take much time to execute and will likely save you unnecessary trouble down the road). once again, be sure to read the FAQ to understand the steps i'm talking about.
finally, you should also know that it is completely possible to move from WM6.5 to WM6.1 or even back to WM6.0 and then back to WM6.1 or WM6.5 or what have you, just as long as you follow the steps and satisfy the constraints (matching the radio, matching the SPL, etc, etc).
Thanks again. I appreciate everything. You were 100% helpful.
ASCIIker said:
well then you're half way there!
just be sure to read the FAQ of the particular WM6.5 ROM you pick. the flashing procedure for WM6.5 is pretty much the same as what you have taught yourself for WM6.1 except for a few subtle precautionary steps and changes in the sequence of steps (that don't take much time to execute and will likely save you unnecessary trouble down the road). once again, be sure to read the FAQ to understand the steps i'm talking about.
finally, you should also know that it is completely possible to move from WM6.5 to WM6.1 or even back to WM6.0 and then back to WM6.1 or WM6.5 or what have you, just as long as you follow the steps and satisfy the constraints (matching the radio, matching the SPL, etc, etc).
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I have TPC's 6.5 on my Tilt. Works great. One tip, no matter who's ROM you choose, use the cleanest version you can. I'm using TPC's Chump version. 6.5 wasn't designed for the smaller memory of the Tilt. A loaded ROM version uses up too much memory and leaves very little for apps. I use SPB Mobile Shell. It wouldn't install with the loaded TPC ROM.
Searching appears to have failed me, but I'm looking for a up to date, optimized (recent drivers etc), Manila/Sense LACKING 6.1 ROM for the Xperia.
Could anyone provide some guidance with that? I can't really find any
EDIT: To clarify, thats a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM without manila or sense UI
Maybe you should look at the forum? Searching specific terms won't give any good results back.. These roms basically plague the forum, i dont know how you could not find ANY
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568918
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588882
And that's just the first page
6.1, not 6.5 I'm aware of the huge amounts of 6.5 ROMs
Bad grammar is bad
Even if there's manila/sense, you dont have to enable them.. no different tbh
check here
Touch-IT v16 with winmo 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575329
List of stock roms with link somewhere http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475482
Hi,
I can maybe try to cook something like that for you... you want other apps included (youtube, facebook, etc.) or totally clean?
Do you want X1 panel manager installed? Any X1 panels?
Will post a link here if I get it cooked...
-Oobly
the stock roms aren't too bad, but i can only think of two 6.1 roms without manilla/ sense;
norti nx1i 1.04
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478022
i've used this and can recommend it
bxsteez lite 1.05
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475083
otherwise, as mentioned it could be worth trying some of the established 6.1 touchflo roms and just disable touchflo. 'pctech4u' and 'touch x' come to mind. check out the rom library, ther might be more
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
Typako said:
I am on an own-cooked ROM which I can upload for you, or anybody else.
WM6.1 build 21051, no manila, no panels, some little apps that are useful for me and some selected HTC staff like enlarge start menu, volume control, FM-radio etc
I am using it for the last 2 months and it's very fast and stable. Perfect for SPB MS users.
I cannot provide any support though. No much time. Normally you won't need any.
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Hey that'd be great
So, here is the dl link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/317757034/Typako_21051_r3a_v1.0_nopanel_WWE_generic.rar
Hope you enjoy it.
As everyone here says, hardspl your device first and flash at your own risk.