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JAVA midlets don't run on my Kaiser

Hi guys,
I'm very pleased by my Kaiser (bougth from HTC). great features, feels great also, GPS great, communication tools great... The only problem I've run into is JAVA. On my kaiser the java midlets don't run...
I've noticed that once I've downloaded the Mini Opera 4 and tried to run it. The instalation worked as it should but when I've tried to run it all I get is the gif image with the running man (I guess is the midlet loading notification) but after that the application is closing (including the JAVA manager). I've tried other java applications and all are installed ok but I wasn't being able to run them (the same behavior).
I've thought that maybe it's becasue of the JAVA manager so I've installed first the Esmertec Jbed java manager and after that the MIDlet Manager (TAO Intent) but with no better luck... On Esmertec Jbed I get the same behavior as with the default java manager and with MIDlet manager I cannot even install any java midlet.
1) Did anyone had this kind of behaviour or anybody knows what should I do in order to get the JAVA midlets running?
2) becasue the Midlet Manager didn't let me to install any midlets and I've read also on the wiki Midlet Bible that it's worse than Esmertec Jbed I've uninstalled it from "Remove programs" (and it's not there anymore) but it still appears on my Programs list (and if I click on it it opens).
Do you know how can I remove it completly from my kaiser?
Thank you for your time,
Emil

talpic said:
Hi guys,
I'm very pleased by my Kaiser (bougth from HTC). great features, feels great also, GPS great, communication tools great... The only problem I've run into is JAVA. On my kaiser the java midlets don't run...
I've noticed that once I've downloaded the Mini Opera 4 and tried to run it. The instalation worked as it should but when I've tried to run it all I get is the gif image with the running man (I guess is the midlet loading notification) but after that the application is closing (including the JAVA manager). I've tried other java applications and all are installed ok but I wasn't being able to run them (the same behavior).
I've thought that maybe it's becasue of the JAVA manager so I've installed first the Esmertec Jbed java manager and after that the MIDlet Manager (TAO Intent) but with no better luck... On Esmertec Jbed I get the same behavior as with the default java manager and with MIDlet manager I cannot even install any java midlet.
1) Did anyone had this kind of behaviour or anybody knows what should I do in order to get the JAVA midlets running?
2) becasue the Midlet Manager didn't let me to install any midlets and I've read also on the wiki Midlet Bible that it's worse than Esmertec Jbed I've uninstalled it from "Remove programs" (and it's not there anymore) but it still appears on my Programs list (and if I click on it it opens).
Do you know how can I remove it completly from my kaiser?
Thank you for your time,
Emil
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1, welcome to XDA-Devs
2, the reason it doesn't run is also stated in the Bible: you're using a non-Western regional settings.
There're two fixes for your problem:
a, set your reg settings to ANY Western region (including Eastern countries otherwise only using Western alphabet; for example, Estonia)
b, install the just-reviewed 2.1 version of Jbed (it's at the bottom of the MIDlet Bible), it doesn't have this problem (but doesn't support sound). See the UPDATE (11/23/2007).

Thank you Menneisyys.
Yes the encoding was the problem... Now it works
Again thank you.
Regarding the complete removal of the Midlet Manager? It's not on the "Remove program" list anymore but it appears on the Program list and if I click on it it opens.. So it's still installed. Do you know how can I remove it?
Anyway, thank you again for your great help

Ok I've managed to remove the MIDlet Manager for good
I've removed it from \Windows\Startup\Programs, deleted the \Storage\Programs\TAO folder and also I've deleted all the entries in the registry that contains the "tao" word (which was the special word that I didn't know until I've looked again over what MIDlet Manager is).
OK, great forums and great community. Glad to be part of it.
All the best,
Emil

Glad to be able of help

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tried opera mini or opera mobil ? they do ok java in browsers
but the poster is not asking for the same thing as you i belive he's looking for a midlet manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288119&highlight=java
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which java program is used by orange.uk?
where can i get it or other recomened java for tytn II?
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Morst greatfull, is it availble without opera?

jr_enver said:
Morst greatfull, is it availble without opera?
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It may be i just haven't searched for one sinceI use opera mini whenever im on edge

who wouldn't want opera? it's wonderful

don't know if this one works but you can try it
http://www.4shared.com/file/83811628/e218d9e7/Intent_MIDlet_manager.html

Thanks again
Opera mobile is great, but doesn't run BBC Iplayer on my phone(all about SkyFire) and Opera mini.......not so much great

thanks for the posts
tried the java program from kaiserII101. downloads and installes fine but doesn't run the apps.
does anyone have a link to Esmertec Jbed without opera

Java app question

I;m using Gmail 2.0 java app, and every time I wanted to start it I have to go to "e" icon (Esmerthec app or something) and then I can select gmail to start?
Is there way to installed java app to have an icon in the programs?
PS
and what is that esmettec thing?

windows mobile don't support java
to use java applications on windows mobile
one require a midlet manager which does java
esmettec is an such

Rudegar said:
windows mobile don't support java
to use java applications on windows mobile
one require a midlet manager which does java
esmettec is an such
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I see, thanks!

this java midlet manager has always worked fine for me although it also installs opera mini.

I think his question is more to do with creating a shortcut direct to Gmail, i have one for Opera Mini that looks like this.
43#"\Windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_ Opera Mini 4.2 ?\Windows\opera.dll,-101
<<"\Windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_ Opera Mini 4.2>> 43 characters the bit after points to a .dll that i have for showing the icon.
-run s0_ corresponds to the first java app installed
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Dear fellow Kaiser Java users,
I have made some good progress with latest JBed and it can be installed in SD Card .. grab it here ..

thanks a lot, i using it in tytn II.

Strange this is recent lol. I myself am also trying to make a shortcut link for gmail.
First off, is there a newer Gmail than 1.5? I thought it was newest.
Anyway. I have the JBED with Opera Mini 4.2. It has the shortcut bla bla bla. But I finally found a link to download Gmail 1.5. Took me forever since Google wouldn't let me download it on the windows mobile device. Also, how to get the Gmail app to be trusted so I don't have to constantly press multiple buttons to get it to connect.