P3600i Memory Upgrade (which modules)? - P3600 Software Upgrading

I read that the P3600(i)'s SDRAM can be upgraded to 128mb. Currently my P3600i is in for warranty repair and i cannot check what modules are required.
What memory modules do i need to order to boost the memory to 128Mb or higher? (i realise that i need to SMD solder the parts).
All the forum posts i see only detail which place i can send the phone in for upgrading (with none of them in Australia).
-Manny

It's a bit harder than just smd soldering them on the board. They are BGA chips and hence a bastard to remove in the first place. I would suggest just sending it away to one of the places who will do it for you.

seroster said:
It's a bit harder than just smd soldering them on the board. They are BGA chips and hence a bastard to remove in the first place. I would suggest just sending it away to one of the places who will do it for you.
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Haha...yeah, just send it to India....then buy yourself a Kaiser or Diamond then you will have a lot more memory.

Are you sure the Trinity can have more ram? IIRC the Uni had an extra memory slot as it was initially intended to have 128MB ram but with WM5 being faster than 2003 it was only released with 64MB and an empty slot, which can be used for the upgrade. Also, a custom bootloader is available, to boot the 128MB Uni, something that I haven't seen for the Trinity. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I would do some homework before sending my Trinity to be upgraded.

ive been thinking the same thing, can it actually be upgraded.
I haven't really seen anything indicating it can besides some of the early reviews for the device listed 128mb of RAM and some random forum posts saying it should be the same as a uni.
I only purchased the p3600i 3months ago...but im considering upgrading to the diamond.
considering i should be able to get 350-400 for the p3600i in Australia and a diamond form hong kong is $720ish. and if the memory upgrade can be done and i send it off to someone im probably not going to see any change out of $150-$200. so im already getting to the price of a diamond anyway.

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Orange SPV M1500 -- Question...

I just purchased an SPV M1500. Is this the same as the XDA IIi? I bought it already unlocked. Are there any differences in the ROM besides splash screens / logos? Is there a way to put the O2 XDA IIi ROM on this device?
Last question... I bought it from someone in the UK, and I live in the US, I currently subscribe to Cingular Wireless. Has anyone had issues with this?
Any reply would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Brock
Same device, slightly different looks.
All Alpine ROMs will work and the splash images etc can all be changed, at ROM upgrade or later. Find a ROM you want and follow instructions.
The device is tri-band so long as you live in an area where you don't need quad band you'll be OK.
Any more questions, there are plenty of people here to ask, just don't ask the dreaded WM5 question, the answer will be NO.
Good luck.
LOL!! I got that loud and clear. I thought people were supposed to be reading through the forum for their answer before posting stupid/redundant questions??? NO WM5, at least yet. I don't have a desire for that right now anyways. What would be the benefit?
The earth is so small. You know what, you have bought the phone from me on ebay, Brock Miller. Have you received the phone yet? I could give you help on upgrading the phone, if you needed it. At the moment, if you wanted the latest rom, then it is imate PDA2 ROM.
Nam? Oh my gosh!!! I can't believe you frequent this site as well? Wow... Thats cool. It is indeed a small world. No I haven't received the SPV-1500 yet, I was just asking a few questions about it before hand. I can't wait to get it though. I'll drop you an e-mail when it comes in. Have a good one!
It's nice to meet you here as well. The phone will arrive very soon. Keep the eyes on your work place, you will need to sign for it. Give me a sound when you need helps and have fun with the phone.
Yes! It was.
Will I personally have to sign for it? Or can my shipping department sign for it?
Also, what phone do you have now?
as long as you could arrange someone to sign for it, then that's fine. I think I just buy a cheap phone for now, untill the new HTC Muse comes out. This would be the best phone ever.
Except for the 4GB of storage, and the camera it looks like the HTC Universal has better specs. Why the muse? I really would have liked to have bought an HTC Universal, but I couldn't find any that were reasonably priced, .
Simply, because it is very compact, has everything that I wanted. I originally had the VPA compact which is HTC Magician, but it doesn't have wifi built in that why I sold it. I also did have HTC Universal ( SPV M5000 ) once and I do not advice you to get one. No only because of the price ( I got it for £250 ), it is also very very slow ( before buy it, I thought it would be very fast, but it's not, even slower than HTC wizard ) and bloody massive. I had it for one day and sold it the next day, you can imagine how dissapointed I was.
The only good thing about the HTC Universal is the infrared transfer speed ( 4mb/s ) and range ( 7 metres ) which is good for TV remote control softwares. However, that is not good enough for the price.
Wow, that would be very diappointing. What did you not like about the HTC Alpine? Too bulky also?
The HTC Alpine is not as big as the HTC Universal and HTC Blue Angle ( actually it is quite compact for such a powerful device ), has wifi built in, powerful processor ( don't be confused with the Intel PXA 270 520MHZ of HTC Universal, it is Intel PXA 272 520MHZ ) and better bluetooth than other HTC device ( support file transfer service and more ). The only thing that I do not like about it is that the infared range is too short ( 70 cm ) for Remote control programs which is the same on other HTC devices, except for the HTC Universal ( 7 metres ) and HTC magian ( 3 metres ) ( that's why I sold it ). But if you can live with it, then the HTC Alpine is the best Mobile Phone/Pocket PC to have at the moment in term of features and price.
I just received the SPV M1500!! Even though you tried, the power adapters that you sent were the wrong kind. The U.S. uses 110 V. Also, all looks ok, but it showed more wear than I thought it would. There was a scratch on the screen, a tiny crack just above the "joystick" hole, and the external antenna port hole cap is missing (not a huge deal, just doesn't look as good with out it). Do you know if TomTom has a US map available to buy?
As my description the phone is used. I am so sorry, if it dissapointed you. TOMTOM and USA map are already included on the DVD, just follow the installation guide that is also in the in the box. Let me know anything that I could help you with. I will try to find the cover at the back for you, if I could not find it, then I would refund you some money, so you could get a new silicon case for it. Really sorry.
No way!! No this is fine. Its still a very nice phone. If you can find the cover, that would be nice, but I don't expect a refund by any means. I still got a good price. I need to find an AC adapter for this cradle though. I imagine that won't be too hard to come by, I just hope it doesn't cost too terribly much. Thanks again for the phone. I am overall pleased. It is so much better than my Wallaby. Also, I can charge it in the wallaby cradle for now. I was lucky, it fits, not quite right, but good enough. Thanks again. Also, I see where there is indeed USA maps with TomTom included. Sorry about that.
Brock
Or can I just send you some softwares in return? Just name the softwares, I will find them for you. I am now selling some softwares for pocket pc on ebay, just take a look, if you like them, let me know I will send them to you. Also I just find out that if you installed Imate PDA2 ROM UPDATE, the infrared range will be incresed to about 3 metres. If you was not so sure how to install ROM UPDATE, let me know, I will give you the web link with installation guide.
Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor
Hello Coldwave
sorry to gatecrash on your post , i have the o2 flavour of this device, would i be able to flash it with the imate rom, also do you know if i could use an orange rom as well, as my work is now changing to orange from o2.
cheers
Gregor
All HTC Alpine devices have the same hardwares. Therefore, it is possible to change ROM between different made like Imate, Qtek, Orange, etc. However, you must follow some steps to avoid Country ID error.

Default buying a german stellar (kaiser i think) off ebay - live in uk

Sorry every1 i posted this in the general section , i had plenty of reads but no advice so im posting it here cos the auction im interested in ends very soon. 'just wanna buy a german kaiser and use it in the uk by flashing it with english rom and using in uk network' u don't have to read the rest just answer me this please. is it possible, thanks guys
hello everyone, im glad to be back! haven't used this forum in well over a year and ive missed it. ive decided to get another ppc. i'm looking at getting the tytn 2 off ebay. basically i want just the most powerful spec ppc. apart from the shift and advantage (cant afford them) this seems the best choice. also i would like a qwerty keyboard although b4 i got by with the spb full keyboard but now i want a qwerty one. if anyone can suggest any other ppc's with a high spec let me know plz. i didn't wanna spend more than a 200 quid but after watching ebay for 3 days it seems i have to.i've got 300 quid but for that i'd like a ppc a decent memory card and some bluetooth stereo headphones such as the sony ones. luckily ive got still got loads software (i.e. tomtom) from b4 but that's from older os'es. the one on ebay is 200 buy it now but its shipped from germany.the whole lisitng is in german but at the bottom is says 'attention int. buyers this phone has german software' surely i can just flash it with an english rom such as dutty's? is that correct?just as i was leaving the forums last time. xda-dev had 2 take all the roms down due to a copyright warning from ms. does this mean i have to cook my own? sounds daunting. basically i just wanna know if this german stellar is gonna b compatible on english nets? and if anyones got any suggestions for another ppc. sorry for posting in the general section, maybe this could have went in a different board but i've got 21 hours or so till the auction ends. thanks guys. glad 2 b bk, gareth
p.s. i've got an almost new orbit with a cracked screen. anyone good at fitting screens, or wanna buy it? or sell me a screen lol. ( i still want a newer ppc though) this is why i left the boards- cracked me screen didnt i lol.
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cmon guys sum1 must b able 2 spare me a minute. the auction ends soon. 'can i buy a german kaiser, flash it wiv english rom and use on uk network'
no man. most of the times the device ID does not match along with the carrier rom of other operators. so if your device is german operator specific, i dont think it will match along with ur desired rom updated. and since u r planning to buy from ebay, you only have a less chance of getting the full advantage of knowing you can rom update into english
German to English ROM change should be OK
garethsimpsonuk said:
. . . cmon guys sum1 must b able 2 spare me a minute. the auction ends soon. 'can i buy a german kaiser, flash it wiv english rom and use on uk network'
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I don't think you should have any trouble - people take devices that started out with WorldWideEnglish on them and flash to different language ROM's all the time. The hardware is the same, the keyboard layout may be slightly different. You will have to follow directions here and Hard-SPL unlock, and may need to do SIM-unlock, but I know it's all do-able.
thanx 4 the reply
thanks a lot guys,well.. what do i do here? 2 pieces of conflicting info from 2 experienced guys. shall i take this as it should be ok but theres a possibility of it going wrong? i called uk 02 tech support, they wouldn't tell me anything 'cant make any guarantees, we dont support this etc.etc.'the guy has posted it on uk ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=270225685569&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017
is it not worth the risk then do you think
n e got 1 for sale? lol
i wouldnt listen to what ayyu3m said at all. true the ID will be different, but that is one of the reasons we use hardspl. we can bypass the CID and install rom from other kaisers. no problems whatsoever, expect maybe the keyboard layout
yea i agree, cid is counrty id isnt it? still not sure what 2 do. ill have to check the standard german keyboard layout. 200 quid is alot to waste but then again i could whack it back on ebay.has anyone actually tried this?cheers 4 ur reply m8, and the others all appreciated
CID=carrier ID
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thanks a lot guys,well.. what do i do here? 2 pieces of conflicting info from 2 experienced guys. shall i take this as it should be ok but theres a possibility of it going wrong? i called uk 02 tech support, they wouldn't tell me anything 'cant make any guarantees, we dont support this etc.etc.'the guy has posted it on uk ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=270225685569&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017
is it not worth the risk then do you think
n e got 1 for sale? lol
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The phone sold on this auction is HERMES not KAISER
if it is a hermes you want i have one for sale
full working order
sadly no box but i have the case - charger - usb sync cable - spare styliii
let me know
hermes offer
i will if its cheaper than the ebay ones, i woz gonna get a kaiser but if ill save money ill buy it then i can get a umoc aswell!how much mate?

Possibly the dumbest question on upgrading a wizard.

Hi there,
Well I have had my wizard for a while now and the screen has managed to aqiure some scratches over the years and I found out that on ebay you can get a new screen for like £8 with tools and instructions, so this got me thinking, as I really like this phone even though it is old and outdated it still manages to keep up in some areas and thanks to you guys it keeps getting new software and os's so I thought well instead of spending £400 on a new phone why not spend like £50 on a new screen and then possibly fix the biggest problem i have with this phone, the RAM.... its really not enough and i was wondering if it was possible to get a new upgraded RAM chip and just get someone experienced in soldering and stuff to take out the old one and put in a new one. Now I know this really sounds far fetched and even if it is possible it may end up way to expensive, and alot easier to get a new phone but if anyone has any ideas if it is possible id love to know.
PS sorry if this is a seriously dumb question but I like my massive outdated smart phone I just wish it had more ram.
Thanks
Well to all those interested, i have found out that it is possible to get it to 128 MB but it will cost around £70 and i can get a secondhand HTC TYTN II for £100 so I think ill go for that instead.
That's cool
Is it available freely or did you have to do a lot of digging?
And any ideas how to install the new memory?
Well from what i found out in another thread on this site is that a company called retronix will take your phone in and change the ram chips for you. Here is the thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359590
I have sent them an email asking about it but have not recieved a reply.
I hope this will be helpfull for you, I have decided against it as you can buy a second hand tytn II for almost the same price and also as I will start uni in september I will be getting a contract that comes with the Touch Pro 2 cant wait it looks like an awsome phone.

Kaiser can't find sim card

Hello guys, I've got quite weird problem. Today morning, I tried to run android on my Tilt, but when I've done flashing, my phone couldn't find sim card (which was in it). I thought it was maybe ROM problem, so I've changed it to another and it was the same. Phone couldn't find sim card which was in it. Okey, I tried to change sim to one from another operator and was still the same... At last, I reflashed my kaiser to Win Mobile 6.5 (shifu 4.3 ROM, best for me) and it's all the same! It didn't crash or something like it, so I think it must be software problem.
What do you think guys, why it can't find sim?
Actually, I've got shifu 4.3 ROM, Radio 1.70.19.09 and HardSPL 3.29.
What shall I do to get it back to work?
Waiting for your advice.
//Edit: found a solution to this, searching the forum. I´ll try it and then say if it works.
ive got the same issue, let me now what u did to fix if u get it working
I tried to put a tape on my sim card to get it better connecting to the port, but it isn't still working... I read all topics about not working sim, but I haven't found real working answer. Can someone say what exactly should I do to make it working (without getting it to service)?
why without getting it to service?
some things are just hardware failures and no software can fix them. i have personally had this problem. read the FIRST page of the kaiser general forum and you will see at least 2-3 such threads. this is a common issue because of the moving parts in the kaiser. if the do-it-yourself tricks aren't working, then it is very very likely a fault in the main flex cable as detailed in the threads i am mentioning.
Yeah, I've seen that and it's really getting me down...
Why not? Just because I had a issue with not contacting usb port, I got my kaiser to service (not original, just something like "buy-sell phones service) and it costed me about 120zł (it's 30 euro, on that current). It wasn't done good. If I had a required stuff to solder it, I'd done that by myself. Next, my kaiser falled off my knee, when I was playing my guitar and writing an sms (I mean, I had guitar on my chest and I was writing sms in the same time) and slider works only in one place (not two - right and left, just only right). I tried to repair it, but it's just torned plastic and I can't do anything with it.
Now, sim card reader has f*cked up... I don't 've got enought money to pay for all things to do with my Tilt, so I think I'd lie down in my drawer...
Goodbye kaiser, hlip... ;(
Maybe, later, I'd buy G1 .
sorry to hear about the entire story. i used my tytn2 for a full 2 years. i had the main flex cable repaired last month and my repair guy also did a poor job. he put in a tilt's main flex cable, so my sim started working again. BUT! he didn't notice that the tilt does not have a front cam. so now my tytn2's front cam does not work.
i used the repaired tytn2 just fine for the past month. i just got an hd2 yesterday because i couldn't resist!
but it was worth having my kaiser repaired because now i can sell it. if i did not have it repaired, no one would want to buy a phone whose sim card doesn't work!
Yeah, I used my for about 1,5 year, but it's second hand phone - it was used by my friend for about year. How much did you pay for that repair? Just wanna know what prices are for that .
HD2... Man, you've got world's controlling center in your hands!
Congratulations .
I'm thinking of selling my kaiser like "sim not working, just for parts or to repair!", but I'll wait for the price in service.
i'm in a country where i can't use ebay/paypal, otherwise i would have ordered a brand new part for the kaiser. these parts are available as "do-it-yourself" kits for about $35.
where i am, i had to have it replaced by a local service shop. these shops rarely have replacement parts for "exotic" phones like the kaiser. so i had to settle for a cannibalized part from a used tilt for about $45 i still think it was worth it because without repairing it, i could probably sell it for about $50. after repairing it, i can probably sell it for about $150+ in the market here. so i will still make a profit of 150-45=$100+ compared to a profit of $50 without having it repaired.
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i'm in a country where i can't use ebay/paypal, otherwise i would have ordered a brand new part for the kaiser. these parts are available as "do-it-yourself" kits for about $35.
where i am, i had to have it replaced by a local service shop. these shops rarely have replacement parts for "exotic" phones like the kaiser. so i had to settle for a cannibalized part from a used tilt for about $45 i still think it was worth it because without repairing it, i could probably sell it for about $50. after repairing it, i can probably sell it for about $150+ in the market here. so i will still make a profit of 150-45=$100+ compared to a profit of $50 without having it repaired.
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Definitely you have a good deal with your kaiser....

[Q] DROID 3 XT862 soldering NAND flash to different phone.

Hi,
I have unrepairable DROID 3. I would like to unsolder SanDisk SDIN4C2 16GB MLC NAND flash and solder it to a different board removed from working phone, just to get back my data (some are not synced to cloud). Will it work? Or will it fail because of some IMEI/security/data ciphers/serial numbers/hardware revisions?
Thanks for reply!
sniezu
sniezu said:
Hi,
I have unrepairable DROID 3. I would like to unsolder SanDisk SDIN4C2 16GB MLC NAND flash and solder it to a different board removed from working phone, just to get back my data (some are not synced to cloud). Will it work? Or will it fail because of some IMEI/security/data ciphers/serial numbers/hardware revisions?
Thanks for reply!
sniezu
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Since the internal memory is just a soldered SD card, i think it should be fine, in theory you could even find a 32GB model of that chip and solder it on the board to increase total storage memory, but this is a gamble. The only thing i'm not sure is if the data will get some shock from the unsoldering... if you got the knowledge and the tools, i think it's worth a try!
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The only thing i'm not sure is if the data will get some shock from the unsoldering... if you got the knowledge and the tools, i think it's worth a try!
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Frankie has a good point - you will need to follow good ESD practices - while the flash is pretty rugged there are other parts on the boards that are not. Use a wrist strap, grounded workstation and soldering iron.
i'll give it a try!
Thanks! I'll give it a try and post results here. I have cheap soldering station (hot air) but i will surely use professional service point somewhere in my city.
nand flash chip is very sensitive to high temperatures.
Unfortunatelly no one wants to take this task. After some research it's found that NAND chips are very sensitive to high temperature. Most probably data will be lost after IR/hot air heating. I'm still searching someone to do this for me.
EDIT: 12.11.2013
Some specialist told me, that there is very high possibility destroying data during soldering - so no one will take this task. But fortunatelly he fixed my old, broken phone.

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