I am on my second Diamond as the first one (Original HK phone from Expansys) had to be returned due fault. I now have a replacement (1.35 ROM).
The GPS on the original phone worked really well and started up quickly, even in doors. On the new phone the GPS is completely useless, to get it to connect initially took about 10 minutes standing in the garden. The last two mornings I have tried to use the GPS on my drive to work. Both times after 20 minutes the phone had not connected. This morning I even had the roof down.
I have searched the threads for a solution to this and tried everything including flashing the ROM to a later version, quick GPS, aGPS enabled and disabled, HTC GPS tool, Tomtom 6, Tomtom 7, Google maps and GPS tuner.
I'm now at a loss as what else to try, than sending the phone back for another replacement.
Is there anyway to set up the internal GPS manually either via software or registry tweaks or any other possible solutions to this.
try upgrading to 1.37 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402284
work perfectly for me, with quickqps updated, it will fix under 10 sec in IGO8.
I've tried 1.37 and the TLR Rom, the probelrm is still the same. The frustrating thing is that it worked really wel on the first phone.
Careful with one thing: GPS Autoattach (getting an IP from the network)
I tried this tweak with my diamond (enable or disable with schap's advanced config)
With Radio On (no flightmode) ans GPSAutoattach On, I get fixes as fast as 10 to 15s
With Radio Off (flightmode) and GPSAutoattach On, I get fixes as long as 40s.
Yes it seems weird because if you have no radio, you can't get an IP from network (so in this case GPSAutoattach is useless)
Turning GPSAutoattach Off (to save battery) I got no fixes at this moment (i gave up after 1min1/2 ) Radio On or OFF
Perhaps something wrong on ROMs about the GPS/AGPS.
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Forgive my inability to find a solution in search (at least I made the effort).
Stock Tilt
Stock AT&T ROM
Registered TomTom Nav6
GPS worked flawlessly for the past months.......matter of fact, the entire device has been flawless until now.
Tonight when I pulled the phone from my case, I got a pop-up explaining that QuickGPS had expired (or some such silly blue screen). All I could do is close it (I've never launched QuickGPS since I've owned the device and have no idea how it could have activated).
Best I can tell, my receivers are now disabled.
Settings in TomTom still show:
other GPS receiver
baud 4800
comm4
Suggestions?
try opening quickgps ( u'll find under programs") and click download and download the data..then run tomtom again and see if u get a fix
Yeah download the data from QuickGPS. It takes an insane amount of time to require a fix with any program without a sattelite map in my experience.
You might have never noticed it because it downloads automatically when you connect to ActiveSync or other data networks if enabled.
I'm pretty sure that's your problem. A current sattelite map (I don't really know what it's called) lasts for 7 days.
Thanks for the tips.
What seems to have happened was that QuickGPS must have been activated last week at some point (no clue exactly just *how* that occured). The message I got last night was that it had "expired" (I see now that each download lasts for a week then expires).
Nothing I tried would get TomTom receiving again. After reading further threads, I noticed that we should NEVER TOUCH EXTERNAL GPS SETTINGS (which of course I had already done at that point). I figured I was facing a hard reset.
But my solution came as passively as the problem did. In THIS POST "ach2" suggests running GPSTest (included in the thread) after a hard reset.
I figured, wtf....why not give it a try before I hard reset? I let GPSTest run for about 30 minutes until it had acquired a HDOP score....minimized it....launched TomTom....and low-and-behold all is working normally again.
I've since disemboweled QuickGPS so as to never bother me or TomTom again.
Thanks for the suggestions and thanks ach2 wherever you are.
Actually QuickGPS is something you want to use. It downloads the Sat. info & saves your device major time in aquiring the sat tracks.
I use Quick GPS all the time, even if it hasn't expired.
Is there a way to reset Kaisers gps?
I tried to search but didn't find a guide to do this.
I know that there is a way to reset bluetooth gps receiver but no reset guide for kaiser or other build-in gps.
Read my signature and there you see my rom&radio etc.
It takes long time to get fix and I tought that gps reset might help.
Tried many programs: Tomtom 6, Igo 8, Htc gps tool, Htc gps test.
Same effect with all of above.
Erratic GPS performance needs more than a reset
It seems that the TyTN IIs GPS performance under WM 6.1 is quite erratic compared to WM 6. I've experienced very slow times to get a fix also, even though if the device is stationary and you shut it down then restart, it gets a fix in blazingly fast times. The problem is not that GPS needs to be reset because even powering off the TyTN II and restarting it doesn't solve this problem. I've notified Tomtom about it and I'm waiting to hear back from them if they have a patch or new GPS driver version that will cure this problem. I'd much rather have the device take a few seconds longer to get a fix in the above situation if it means it didn't take over 8 minutes (at which point I gave up and shut it down) to get a fix in places/situations where it used to take under one.
I shut down kaiser with powerbutton (not stylys+soft reset)
Turned on and ran htc gps test. Almost right away in view 2 satellites but no fix. It takes about 5 minutes to get proper fix. In view 13 | Fix 8 to 9. So gps is working perfectly but the time to get fix is too much.
Have the same problem, but its not TomToms issue - the same happens with google maps.
I think the problem is related to the device not using the quick gps download data and therefore you have to wait for the almanac data to be aquired from the satalites. Once aquired, a short power down usually results in a fast lock to the satelites, however the longer the gps is off, the longer it takes to lock to the gps.
Even hotfix is not fast. I am using quick gps..
ardsar said:
Have the same problem, but its not TomToms issue - the same happens with google maps.
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Thanks for that report, I haven't installed Google Maps since I've flashed my TyTN II but this doesn't surprise me.
I think the problem is related to the device not using the quick gps download data and therefore you have to wait for the almanac data to be aquired from the satalites. Once aquired, a short power down usually results in a fast lock to the satelites, however the longer the gps is off, the longer it takes to lock to the gps.
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That fit's in with my experience for Tomtom except even once the data has been updated eg after a fix has been successfully obtained and Quick GPS was updated a few minutes earlier, shutting down Tomtom and restarting it whilst on the move (such as in a train), results in a fix taking ages - far longer than with WM 6. Does anyone know if HTCs Quick GPS program has been updated for WM 6.1 or what the latest version is? Mine says Version 1.0 (rarely a good thing) Build 220.821 but interestingly the copyright date is shown as 2006 - 2008.
Hi,
After many days of trying to get TT7 working, and finally succeeding... with some help from a particular person in this here forum (you know who you are!) I can't seem to get a GPS lock.
I've downloaded the latest Quick GPS and it can find me (and yes, I'm outside, not inside!)
Is there anything I should be doing? I tried it with A-GPS on and off. Currently its on, but still not locking. It will get a signal for a few seconds, then it loses it!
Does updaing the Radio have any affect on it? I'm running SwiftBL 5.5 ROM.
Thanks,
DG.
Hi DanGlee
What is your current Radio version. AFAIK 1.00.25.05 is the better radio for GPS (at present)
AFAIK having the a-gps on causes issues like turning the signal off every few seconds. So this should defo be off.
TT preferences should be set to internal GPS (is by default)
On the device there is external GPS settings (as the device has internal GPS - this setting need not to be messed with)
You should not need to change any of the default settings at all.
I have the same ROM as you so will test the GPS later and report back - though I don't think the ROM will be the issue.
Just got a fix on the satellites and the signal did not deteriorate on my SwiftBL ROM - is A-GPS still turned off ? get schaps advconfig from my sig -if not got already, and check the settings there. Thats all I can suggest for now.
Thanks man!
I have standard Radio, not touched that at all since got it, only ROM update. With the ROM the dev suggested a radio. I check that out later.
Don't have the schaps either. I try that too later.
I not really messed with any other GPS settings other than trying A-GPS on/off. Only managed to get it working late last night, then off to bed!
I try the other stuff you suggested later and see how that works out!
Thanks again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416241
Same problem I think with solution
Grtzzz
Since I bought my Diamond, last week, I haven't been able to get a single fix.
Even worse, although my GPS is detected as running by every GPS soft, there is only one sattelit bar active at a time.
(about 10 satelits are being sensed, but only one is actually sending datas to my device, every time...)
I've never expericenced such problems with my preivous triny. There were always at least 3 or more bars moving up and down at a time, and at the end I could get some fix.
- either it is a hardware problem and I got a crap GPS chipset...
- or it is a setting problem with my ROM.
By the way, in the External GPS settings screen, I have strange infos:
Port GPS: com4 which is normal, GPS Material Port: None!!
baud rate: 4800 (which I think is very low, but I heard everybody has got the same)
What's wrong with my device?
Seems to be lots of posts on this issue...a nice simple one is to flash a new radio.....if that doesn't work do a Hard Reset (to be sure!) and restore to minimum and see if it runs.....then move on from there....
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
riri22 said:
Thanks for the replies!
- I've been doing many hard resets these days, due to some problems with Asian Fonts. So, this is not the problem.
I may go for the radio flashing as u suggest.
By the way, I've noticed you're using the x.x.8 radio, are you satisfied with it? I read many are going back to x.x.5 cause they it has poor performances.
-The GPS log files sounds good. I've never tried this but I may give it a try.
I tried to reset the GPS logs from within the soft I was using, but it did not improve anything, looks like the GPS only receives the list of satelits, but no localisation datas at all...
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....I'm about to revert back to the 07 radio (from 08) as it did not give me the same sat pickup as 07....you can also try the HTC GPS Tool and run a COLD start...I understand this wipes the data and restarts as advised previously...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416334
...lot of other goodies here
The Doctor said:
I've been having a similar problem with my Raphael (it takes a million, billion years to get a lock and even then it's only 3 satellites).
I deleted the 2 GPSlog files in the Windows folder, did a soft reset, ran QuickGPS and then tried Google Maps again. I got a lock in about 10 seconds with 8 satellites.
Now, I've only been able to test it once and will have a go again tomorrow but it's easier than a radio flash or hard reset!
Harry
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I have a similar problem from time to time.A lot of data received from 10-12 satellites but a fix only after a long long time. In comparison with the Garmin Gps I have the sensitivity of the Diamond GPS receiver is good, but the algoritm is not. Diamond radio is .05
I have the same problem if i delete the log file and update with quick GPS.
It seems that the algorithm in the radio sometimes is not able to converge easily to a fix.
My tomtom was working just Excellent on my diamond, than i did a hard reset and no gps, 1 bar for over 1 hour, so reflashed the same rom again 1.93.405 still same problem, so flashed 1.93.401 and bingo it works again. after a nother hard reset 1.93 401 rom gps wont work angin, this time the 1.93 405 rom fixed it. ( all WWE roms)
no idea why this happend.. when the diamond gps works its excellent (better than most tomtom units) but thants only when it works.
as the gps feature is very importent to me, i now have a back up bluetooth gps incase inbuilt gps fails.
and with out quick gps i find its aloms impossible to get a lock.
I only hope HTC fic this issue if not this will have been my first and last HTC product.
Any tips welcomed
Hi mates,
First of all thanks for the link and the goodies, in fact I had already found some datas since many Diamond users seem to have similiar problems with their device.
I agree this is obviously a mistake of HTC to have put a defectuous part in their phone.
1) My problem even went worse yesterday after I flashed the last HK WWE ROM: my GPS wasn't even sensed by the softs!
No NMEA datas blabla...
2)
many hard reset and reflash couldn't fix the problem. I was about to give up when i found info about that HTC GPS TOOL I had never heard about.
After using it for quite a while, at least my GPS was finally sensed and 'some' datas received, though it wasn't enough to get a proper satelit bar, not to mention a fix...
3)
So now I'm back to the same point: no fix or proper reception available, although I'm already quite happy that my GPS is detected again!
3)
I got back to the same stock radio, x.x.5 but no matter which one I use, I can't see when I'm going to have a a fix with that whimsical GPS!
SOLVED!!!
I finally found a solution to wake up my sleeping (beauty) GPS.
The most helpful infos were in that post below, but I did pick other datas here and there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2563369&postcount=6
The funniest thing is that this problem looks like a hardware one, but in fact it's all software related. A problem of configuration, due to the A-GPS function probably.
From what I understand, if you use A-GPS (I mean if you really have access to this special service through your phone operator) everything is fine.
If you don't, then you may get into big troubles like I and many others did...
1) make sure A-GPS function is desactivated (nothing to do with the Quick GPS function)
2)
... just follow the instructions provided by the Oijkn on the link above.
3)
delete as well the file(s) GPSlogs.txt in the windows directory
4)
soft reset
5)
enjoy a very efficient GPS
Hello ! (I am french)
I have a HTC Diamond P3700 and Tomtom Navigator 7.910 + western Europe 1GB map.
This map map is not recognized ? How repair ? Thanks
I have been using TomTom7 on my diamond for almost a year. First several months it was working fine, just some lags or freezes on roundabouts, which was not a big issue.
Then it started doing this strange behaviour at some occasions: I start TomTom, it finds satellites fairly quickly, I start driving, all fine. Then after some distance it loses coordinates (you can see the blue arrow, but everything behind it is grey and it is not following the route). Sometimes it fixes itself for a short time, then does it again. Sometimes this is all, whatever you do (reroute, restart tomtom, restart phone) it won't come back. Some days none of this happens.
Nothing in configuration had changed, I've been using the same radio and rom for almost a year.
I was really annoyed by this, could not simply rely on tomtom. Now I updated the ROM, and yesterday this happened again
If this was discussed before, please point me in the right direction, most of the threads I found by search were about lags or configuration.
It might be the Quick GPS Programs, I recall having a simular problem where the GPS would work for about 5 minutes then turn off, only turning the phone off then on then running up tomtom again would get another fix, only for it to run for a further 5 mins or so.
I think I disabled the quick GPS in the registry using PHM registry editor or something simular.
It might be worth considering updating the ROM. I'm running BsB's which seems much better than the stock offerings.
I've also had this problem with the latest rom from HTC (regular rom) with the radio 1.09.XX
I've updated to radio 1.15 and the problem is gone.
Thanks for you replies.
I've now updated the radio to one of the latest (1.09.25.23), the ROM was already recent (2.07 Gen.Y). Will test it during the week.
The solution based around disabling of Quick GPS - wouldn' it make the start up time longer ?
gonx_me said:
I've updated to radio 1.15 ..
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I have tried to install this radio, but got "Invalid Device Id" message, 1.09 installed with no problems. The phone is security unlocked, could not understand what was the issue and just moved on .. :-/
Could be error in timezone
Hi all,
I had a similar problem and it appears to be the timezone, by reasons unknown my Diamond was set to a timezone of Stockholm, now that looks ok, but it is not a normal timezone.
I changed it to Stockholm, Berlin, ... the standard timezone and once again I got a fix fast and easy.
The thing that you get a gray screen is that you our somewere in the middle of the earth according to the GPS, you notice this if you could see the coordinates and altitude.
I have iGo in my Diamond, but the problem was the same when using Google maps so it wasn't a problem with the program.
I have also changed my iGo to have a manually selected time zone, because I'm not sure if it might be iGo that made the change for me.
But now all my GPS works splendid, and I have a fix within 15 seconds.
i do have similar problems.. but it only happens when i'm in the dense core of downtown toronto where all the tall buildings are..
I think it's because the tall buildings are blocking the signal somewhat that is why your GPS kept on running out or coordinates and relocating itself again
bigbro168 said:
I think it's because the tall buildings are blocking the signal somewhat that is why your GPS kept on running out or coordinates and relocating itself again
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I am in rural Scotland actually, the only high buildings here are castles which are miles away .. so this must be something different.
Neither it seems to be dependent on the sky nor battery level ...
p.s. testing new radio, so far so good ..
Just some feedback from testing: the original problem seems to be solved, but now I've got something much worse - sometimes TomTom freezes several second after the launch, and nothing can be done apart from restarting to bring it back. Don't know if this is a radio's or ROM's issue as I have changed both. Reinstalling TomTom from .cab did not help.
Anyone had similar experience ?
Just some feedback from testing: the original problem seems to be solved, but now I've got something much worse - sometimes TomTom freezes several second after the launch, and nothing can be done apart from restarting to bring it back. Don't know if this is a radio's or ROM's issue as I have changed both. Reinstalling TomTom from .cab did not help.
Anyone had similar experience ?
Hard reset maybe will help
Yes it may, but 3 days before holiday I do not want to be installing everything from scratch. I could try another ROM too if not this.
Tried - atifix, starting with bluetootsh on, wanted to reconfigure GPS setting in TomTom, but can't get there yet ... must be either BT or GPS connectivity
Yes it may, but 3 days before holiday I do not want to be installing everything from scratch. I could try another ROM too if not this.
Tried - atifix, starting with bluetootsh on, wanted to reconfigure GPS setting in TomTom, but can't get there yet ... must be either BT or GPS connectivity
Updated radio to the latest 1.15.25.14 with 1.15.25.35 rilphone, made no difference at all ..
I think I found it - G-Profile service was the cause of the problem. Once I stopped it, TomTom has got 100% starting rate. It's a pity, was a nice small app to have.