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Mapping Questions

I really like google maps, and of course, its free. The GPS function works great when I am outside or have a view of the sky (just figured this out).
Can I download maps or my city and keep them locally on my kaiser so I don't have to use the expensive 3G and only use the free GPS? Or does the require a program you must pay for, ie tomtom, or whatever else.
Also, google maps gives me a really precise location with GPS (within feet), but I cant seem to figure out how to get it to tell my elevation, wind speed, other GPS functions. Is this not possible with Google Maps?
Thanks!
Matt

google maps is not really a gps program so it cannot give you those other features like windspeed, elevation, etc.
if you search the site there is a program to let you download the maps and store them locally on your kaiser. takes it a bit of work though to get it but it is free.

A program like TomaTom Destinator or IGo will do that. I use TomTom personally & really like it. Depending on what maps you want to keep handy, you'll need at least a 2GB SD card. If you search around, I'm sure you can find the TomTom taster that will work well & allow you one free local city map download. Just be aware that while TT6 is great for road trips & city driving to known locations, it doesn't have the same nearly unlimited POI database you get from the servers that work with Google Maps & Live Search.

GPS without a dataplan

I was wondering if I could use google maps and download the maps over my wifi. I dont have a data plan so google maps would have to save onto my phone.
Also I was wondering how does the tomtom or garmin thing work. Do I need a login or something for those, or do I just pay for the maps? (My family has a TomTom and my uncle has a Garmin )

with tomtom and gamin i believe it's std that one buy mappacks which are then placed on sdcard(s) they dont use the phone network at all

Rudegar said:
with tomtom and gamin i believe it's std that one buy mappacks which are then placed on sdcard(s) they dont use the phone network at all
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except if you want to get traffic updates of course

You can get a free trial of tomtom to install on your device and then purchase maps for regions eg UK for about £40.

to answer your first question.... although possible to download maps through wifi, you would defeat the purpose of navigation when you wandered away from an access point. google maps caches a region or grid and afaik you cannot predefine a set of grids to download in advance...
gps has nothing to do with a dataplan. gps is free to use publicly. it will be phazed out within the coming years with a better system which has allready been put into use via darpa and associated defense departments.
tomtom and most other navigation software suites come with regional maps. in the case of tomtom, they only provide one map per country. i dont believe they sell individual maps per state any more.
with programs like streets and trips, however, you can download a specified map or a custom map to your device, thus, no need for a data (or gps) connection. gps would only be needed for real time positioning and statistics.
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Free Off-Line GPS Mapping

I found another FREE app.
Nokia is giving away for FREE a GPS software that makes possible something that even Google Maps can't: off-line mapping with use of GPS. Online mapping is not a big deal because Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and others offer it too, but with smart2go you can use GPS in combination with maps even when you are not connected to the Internet!
Here's the link to the review. From there, you can go to the site......
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7180.html

Tested this on the N95 today and it was great, installed it on my Kaiser and it works well

I think this is much better than google maps. Gps located my location very quickly. Navigation is smooth and accurate(I think navigation lasts 3 days, I think). Very Nice me think

Thank you very much. Although I have a navigation software these cards are often better for walkers. That's why I installed Google Maps. Now I don't have to stress my free data volume so far.

I just wanted to Bump this. This is software is very handy, and FREE, and I didn't want it to get lost. Guys, you really need to try it!!!

I am confused as to what to do. I downloaded the software. But how do I get the maps on the phone?

seems to work fine on my att tilt (although i haven't left the house yet ).
freddiemac1 said:
I am confused as to what to do. I downloaded the software. But how do I get the maps on the phone?
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you use your Wifi connection to download maps of the area you will going to, then, your phone uses it's GPS with the maps d/l'ed.

So am I correct in saying that as you surf the map using wifi etc. it stores the data on your SD card and uses it when you need it. So lets say you live in Louisiana, you can surf the whole state while on wifi or a router etc.. and it will store the map for later use??? is this correct???

seems like it still needs a data connection?
if youre driving, how can it use wifi if you cant connect to an access point?
that must mean it cannot download the map?

1. I go to ... http://www.smart2go.com/en/download/
2. select "Via PC"
3. all i am seeing is bunch of NOKIA softwares
the question is ... which particular model should we download for HTC? I selected the E95 model and I notice the file extension is slightly different, is "File: nokia_maps_1_0_upgrade_ROM.sis" instead *.CAB
any advise? thanks in advance.

It said to download the "Generic" one, that's what I did.
I am just not clear on down loading the map data!

so is this better than TomTom????
EDIT: never mind
"...although you can't do navigation (route calculation) for FREE with this program (Nokia demands money for that), you can however use it as a FREE map with GPS support!"

I have read a little more, will try downloading the map app

bengnism said:
1. I go to ... http://www.smart2go.com/en/download/
2. select "Via PC"
3. all i am seeing is bunch of NOKIA softwares
the question is ... which particular model should we download for HTC? I selected the E95 model and I notice the file extension is slightly different, is "File: nokia_maps_1_0_upgrade_ROM.sis" instead *.CAB
any advise? thanks in advance.
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It's right there. The first option on that list is "Generic: Windows Mobile 5 Phone Edition".
And they also say: "Is your device not listed? Please choose the generic version for any unlisted devices that use Windows Mobile".

ok, I there has to be away to download a complete map instead of surfing the states to get some mapping data?????
Also were doesit store all its data?? I will look in the SD card.

Yes you can download the mapping data to your SD Card.
Use the mapping tool provided on the website.
You need to edit the qf file using notepad to say 1.3 rather than 1.1 or you cant do it.

I am downloading it now, and hopefully it is more accurate than google maps! BTW, is there any other gps software that i can use with my tilt??
Thanks.

Crap, i downloaded the generic version and i did not install on my Tilt. Any help??!!

so this is the only software that lets you use GPS without being connected to the internet?
i have the t-zone plan. it's probably too slow to use google maps gps right? or how does it work.. does it download ALL the directions at once, so that i would have to wait only 1-2 minutes max for each set of directions? or does it obtain the information right before i have ot make a turn and such?

Best free GPS???

I've read pages of GPS threads and I can't figure out what I should use. Some say TT7, some say Google Maps, etc. I want one that works that I don't have to pay a monthly fee for. I don't mind a one time purchase. I want GPS navigation.

brrymnvette said:
I've read pages of GPS threads and I can't figure out what I should use. Some say TT7, some say Google Maps, etc. I want one that works that I don't have to pay a monthly fee for. I don't mind a one time purchase. I want GPS navigation.
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TomTom 7 available here you only gey a free base map and there are no voices "you can downlaod a voice for free from TomTom on handset" then if you like you can buy the maps pretty cheap UK & Ireland £30, so one hell of a saving.
Hope this helps.

I know you siad free ,the free programs are not bad but they do not even compare to the ones you pay for. I have been using this for several years now,I travel a lot and they are very good about updates .
iGuidance 2009 Laptop & UMPC/Car PC Edition
http://www.inavcorp.com/product/navigation/iguidance_pc.php
screen shots
http://www.inavcorp.com/product/gallery/iguidance_gallery.php
I did get a good discount with my member ship at aximsite.com

Google maps is not a GPS

thebats said:
Google maps is not a GPS
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Google Maps does use GPS. It just doesn't work out routes for you and tell you where to turn left/right etc.

my vote goes for iGO8. Works very well on my kasier

dancj said:
Google Maps does use GPS. It just doesn't work out routes for you and tell you where to turn left/right etc.
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Oh yes it does.
It won't SPEAK the directions, but it most certainly does compute turn-by-turn driving directions. You have to "advance" to the next turn by hand (pushing the button) and it doesn't talk, but it does and will compute routes and use the internal GPS.
Its also more complete and up to date than the "packaged" solutions out there in my experience.
The disadvantage is that it requires an active data connection where the "prepackaged" stuff with the maps on an SD card do not.

Mines goes to igo8 also,
it may or may not be free, unless you look for it...
but its probably the best GPS software ive used. Its feature packed and super smooth on the kaiser.
Google maps would be nice if we can download the maps and keep them in sync through alternative data connections maybe in another year or so...

It depends with your country and the map also,.
i live in indonesia - surabaya, and the only map for surabaya that best is in ".img" so thats why i use Garmin Mobile XT and sometime Navitel, both are great,.
but if you want a better menu display, just try iGO,.

all cant be free, unless you unlock it,.

So what ones dont need a active data connection? I know google maps needs a connection but i need the maps on my device.

CoPilot Live 7 for me, worked fine on Kaiser.

Gmaps most certainly does tell you when to turn etc. No it doesnt have an annoying female voice that says it, but it pops up on the screen. Works great for me, hell w/ street view, sometimes when we cant find an address at work, we just hit street view and look at the front of the building.
You mentioned something about connection: If your not paying for data your not really using your tilt anyway.

Can't believe nobody has mentioned windows live search mobile. This is one of my favorite apps and does a lot more than just gps-enabled turn by turn directions.
I highly recommend it. It's no TomTom, but it's free and it does the job.

I will second the comment about Microsoft Live Search. They actually got something right! It's a very convenient program. I don't believe it speaks directions but it does do the turn by turn directions very well.
I personally use iGuidance on an iPaq for long travel navigation but it isn't as user friendly as Live Search which is what I use in a pinch and to get a second opinion on occasion. iGuidance you will have to pay for, and the mapping is very good and it will speak the directions as a normal GPS will do. But Live Search is very cool because you literally just say where you wanna go and it will look it up and take you right there. iGuidance also doesn't have very many Points of Interest but Live Search is full of POIs.
iGuidance will not require you to have a data connection but you will need a few GB of space to load all the maps. Live Search takes very little space but will require a Data Connection to download the maps as you go.
iGuidance ~ $100
Live Search = $0 (but need data connection)
Hope that helps!

shus said:
iGuidance will not require you to have a data connection but you will need a few GB of space to load all the maps. Live Search takes very little space but will require a Data Connection to download the maps as you go.
iGuidance ~ $100
Live Search = $0 (but need data connection)
Hope that helps!
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If you travel a lot, or in area that have very poor connections a dedicated GPS software is the only way to go.....
IG =$100 but good for several years and if you change devices you can install on them, IG space requirements will depend on how big of a map you want to load ,1 gig will do the whole U.S.
if you have a good size contact list, with IG you can pull up the contact and it will take you there...
Live search + $0 but it relies a decent connection , and if you are a heavy user of your data plan , well it could put you over your unlimited plan..another dowside , updates can get slow if your not in a G or e network..
IMO spend the money on a dedicated GPS software..on use live search as you need it...

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BSGPSPDA

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http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BSGPSPDA
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Does that actually work for you? When I tried it, it always stalled trying to download the maps.
Plus it's nowhere as good as Google Maps or Live and basically the same function (downloads maps, shows your position).

Unfortunately, I'm currently seperated from my Kaiser so I haven't been able to try it. But, being overseas my options are limited, and Google Maps and Windows Mobile Live doesn't cut it. Christian72D has had a lot of success with this program though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452765

Free and working
Did you ever try NAV4ALL? It's totally free and works in a decent way too. It doesn't have the easiest interface of this world but it does work.
http://www.nav4all.com/
Enjoy.

GPS app for ppc (specifically Diamond)

I am looking for a GPS app for my Diamond - WM6.1 that does certain things and do not know which forum to ask for help. I noticed one thread that had quite a bit of information concerning GPS apps. I've tried a few that use bitmap maps and I can't tell from them that you can actually create a route with them. Ideally I would like to use the built in GPS capabilities of the Diamond but I do have a BT GPS receiver also if I need to fall back on it. I do not know how to set up the internal GPS to use with apps. I have Microsoft Street Atlas which supposedly allows you to create routes and maps on the desktop and sync them to the phone but I often have trouble with my syncing and you have to be by your pc in order to create a route that you don't have the map for. I also can't get it to create a route on the phone even if I have the map installed.
I guess I just want a self-contained app that I can install and not need to sync maps (especially bitmap maps) and that I can enter an address (preferably also latitude-longitude addresses) and it will create the route and guide me as I go. Since I have tried several apps that were unsuccessful (for what I wanted them to do) I am a bit leary about spending lots of money just on the hope that it might be what I am looking for.
The Navigational software that was pre-installed (GPS Nav from Bell Canada) works well for most cases but I haven't figured out yet how to add stops along the route and I can't enter latitude and longitude - for non-city places that have no street address.
Any suggestions I can get would be great

Look for Garmin solutions for PPC, www.garmin.com.
Software is free, but you must buy maps.
http://www8.garmin.com/solutions/handset/smartphones.jsp

I had a look at the Garmin site and finally found where to download the app. One question I have is can you enter multiple stops along your route or just a start and stop point?
Also, it says the app is pre-loaded on an sd card. The diamond does not accept SD cards so can it be copied from a pc and transferred to the Diamond? Also it says there are no maps available for North America for the Mobile XT. Am I doing something wrong or is that true. If they are not available for North America then its useless for me.

Do you have a data plan?
I find google maps works well for me, but it downloads the maps as you are going, so if you are charged for data this is no good.
I also have tomtom, this allows you to input longitude and latitude coordinates however the software is not cheap.

kaos_king said:
Do you have a data plan?
I find google maps works well for me, but it downloads the maps as you are going, so if you are charged for data this is no good.
I also have tomtom, this allows you to input longitude and latitude coordinates however the software is not cheap.
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software is free, u can download TT7 from these forums. Its the map u have to pay for. u get 1 free map tho.
TomTom allows you to put in points along the route too.

mugglesquop said:
software is free, u can download TT7 from these forums. Its the map u have to pay for. u get 1 free map tho.
TomTom allows you to put in points along the route too.
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Where can I download TT7 from these forums? Also, would I get to choose which map is free?