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How good is the camera in Tytn II comparred too trinity or tytn?
hows quality on the pictures? much better/sharper than tytn, trinity?
can any1 post some regular and macromode pictures taken by tytn II?
It's a bit better than the Tytn. Hard to post pics as the upload limit here is about 90k.
stinger32 said:
How good is the camera in Tytn II comparred too trinity or tytn?
hows quality on the pictures? much better/sharper than tytn, trinity?
can any1 post some regular and macromode pictures taken by tytn II?
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Check out this thread: http://www.modaco.com/official-I-TyTN-II-th-t258879.html
I've posted some sample pictures there, and I must say I'm really impressed!
anyone noticed this weird setup with the secondary camera ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329502
it's not that good.. in my opinion it's better than other PPC... still HTC should has made it better...
there is an issue with RED hue.. but this will probably be fixed later with an update...
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1238792&page=1&pp=15
cheers
Hi,
Been 2 months now i have my TyTn II, looking at XDADev, i was able to answer all the questions i had but ... i still don't understand why when i record videos, sound quality is really low (8khz), and why when i use HTC sound recorder, i can go up to 44khz.
I have looked at all camera options, only found audio on/off, what im missing here?
Thx in advance.
Yes, I noticed that too, I tried to record a small video during in a classroom, and you can't understand what's being said through the video. The person was 15 meters away and speaking out loud.
Maybe there are some registry tweaks that can be changed?
ovkhan said:
Hi,
Been 2 months now i have my TyTn II, looking at XDADev, i was able to answer all the questions i had but ... i still don't understand why when i record videos, sound quality is really low (8khz), and why when i use HTC sound recorder, i can go up to 44khz.
I have looked at all camera options, only found audio on/off, what im missing here?
Thx in advance.
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HTC seems to use the same low-quality setting with all its models. It's the best to forget using it as a video camera altogether. Or, if you really need a phone with a decent, high-quality video camera, get the Nokia N95 or the N82.
Menneisyys said:
if you really need a phone with a decent, high-quality video camera, get the Nokia N95 or the N82.
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Can't agree more.. Every device has its +ve's and -ve's and you have to decide what you really want from it.
The day someone comes out with the 'Perfect' unit, all others will be out of business and nobody will be able to sell any new models!!
We could wish it as a New Year's resolution but I don't think it will happen from any company...
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all (and let's hope the New Year will bring us WM 6.1 with good Qualcomm drivers!!)
Hi all Could anybody please tell me whether CAMERA Software form HTC Diamond could work flawless on HTC X7500 Athena with WM6 (I know that Diamond has 3.2 Megapix and Athena 3.0) and if yes could also make a cab file to have an opportunity to install it on Athena (am besten newest version from Diamond ROM WM6.1)???
Athena's camera soft version 4.01 build 27598 makes unfortunately terrible pictures
Thaks for reply
mixerjeden said:
Hi all Could anybody please tell me whether CAMERA Software form HTC Diamond could work flawless on HTC X7500 Athena with WM6 (I know that Diamond has 3.2 Megapix and Athena 3.0) and if yes could also make a cab file to have an opportunity to install it on Athena (am besten newest version from Diamond ROM WM6.1)???
Athena's camera soft version 4.01 build 27598 makes unfortunately terrible pictures
Thaks for reply
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terrible pictures? you must be jocking!
Well if you like them its your opinion but compared to sony ericsson or Nokia they are terrible
mixerjeden said:
Well if you like them its your opinion but compared to sony ericsson or Nokia they are terrible
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The Diamond takes bad pictures too, no win situation here I'm afraid.
I also own the new SonyEricsson C902, this little thingie is a treat in the camera department.
And sony ericsson firmware updates (according to camera soft) almost always improve schutter speed, screen refresh rate (when you have camera lens open) and the quality actually Maybe HTC envy this sony ericsson in near future.
And HTC ATHENA has terrible screen refresh rate - when I move it to follow for Example something that I want to photograph, I can hardly say what is going on on Athena's screen
for photos i have a 7mp kodak. for video i have a jvc mini dvd.
i don't ask much from a PHONE camera. it's only a PHONE camera made for a quick snapshot in case of emergency. no artistic demands here. i don't buy a pda for his camera and i don't compare pda's by their camera.
it is like using yr DVD as a shovel or a hammer.
I agree with you but:
1. If it is possible to improve sth why not improving it and
2. People nowadays are looking for a phone (or sth else) with good and fast camera because thanks to that they have opportunity to make a picture when they want and of what they want because they have Mobile phone always with them. To have beautiful pictures I would use NIKON or CANON but sometimes I need to make picture immediately. And many new Nokias or Sony Ericssons are better than HTC and many People will change HTC to NOKIA or SE in the future if HTC not improves for example camera. Its a competition and the best will win
Hello everyone
Seriously whats wrong with HTC?
Same time when all companies try to give a better response to costumers with more improvements ,here we go again.... HTC is just making it worse.
The HTC diamond 2 ( Topaz) is Using the same Camera HTC HD Does. Touch ProŘ Diamond and Touch HD all capture videos in CIF Resolution . The new VGA version cut the bit rates to the Half,now Instead of 30 frames per second we have 15.... Is it even funny?
I know its all related to the Software,they easily can solve the problem with an update so what we can do?Im sure they are not going to make such updates.
So any Idea how we can make it?How to tell them?
I dont think it's related to software..
30fps vga movie recording is (640*480)*30fps burst image recording with compression.. So, it's limited by hardware imho..
definitely a hardware issue, not software
DUDE!
if you wana make a film or film things, you shude buy a filmcamera
cameras on phones SUCK ! on ALL phones!!!!
Zinnix said:
cameras on phones SUCK ! on ALL phones!!!!
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Thats not completly true, my old N95 8GB had a very good video capture
I don't know what's wrong with your device(s), but mine is recording fine with 30 fps.
Zinnix is right though, if you have aspirations to be a movie maker, buy a proper movie camera................
adesonic said:
Zinnix is right though, if you have aspirations to be a movie maker, buy a proper movie camera................
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I already have one
The problem is they could do it better when previous versions have a better one,anyway leave it because Topaz image capturing satisfies me and that's enough.
peterbonge said:
I don't know what's wrong with your device(s), but mine is recording fine with 30 fps.
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mine too
Zinnix said:
DUDE!
if you wana make a film or film things, you shude buy a filmcamera
cameras on phones SUCK ! on ALL phones!!!!
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This is complete nonsense. There are a couple of phones (starting with the Nokia N95) which have an excellent video recording quality.
I also get pretty mad at HTC when I compare the SE C905 camera to the HTC Diamond 2 camera. Even the "old" Nokia N95 takes much better pictures than the Diamond 2, I won't even start to mention the much higher shutter release/focus speed of the N95.
As to video PLAYBACK quality, HTC sucks bigtime. I don't know what is wrong with them but most of their newer devices need a lot of tweaking and/or special programs like CorePlayer to be able to playback video files in a decent quality. I know it is a hardware restriction (Qualcomm sucks!) but HTC is to blame for it because this is nothing new and there are thousands of complaints about this on the internet.
Samsung actually proved pretty well that most "issues" on modern Windows Mobile devices aren't caused by Windows Mobile but are limitations induced by the used hardware. Take the Samsung i780 as an example: this device has NO problems whatsoever to playback video files in a decent quality. It uses a Marvell chipset, not Qualcomm. Also look at the decent camera of the Samsung Omnia i900, it may mot beat the Nokia N95 photo quality but it is definetely better than anything HTC has to offer, sad but true.
P996 said:
This is complete nonsense. There are a couple of phones (starting with the Nokia N95) which have an excellent video recording quality.
I also get pretty mad at HTC when I compare the SE C905 camera to the HTC Diamond 2 camera. Even the "old" Nokia N95 takes much better pictures than the Diamond 2, I won't even start to mention the much higher shutter release/focus speed of the N95.
As to video PLAYBACK quality, HTC sucks bigtime. I don't know what is wrong with them but most of their newer devices need a lot of tweaking and/or special programs like CorePlayer to be able to playback video files in a decent quality. I know it is a hardware restriction (Qualcomm sucks!) but HTC is to blame for it because this is nothing new and there are thousands of complaints about this on the internet.
Samsung actually proved pretty well that most "issues" on modern Windows Mobile devices aren't caused by Windows Mobile but are limitations induced by the used hardware. Take the Samsung i780 as an example: this device has NO problems whatsoever to playback video files in a decent quality. It uses a Marvell chipset, not Qualcomm. Also look at the decent camera of the Samsung Omnia i900, it may mot beat the Nokia N95 photo quality but it is definetely better than anything HTC has to offer, sad but true.
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I Second that,but The phone definitions are available on Net before we get a handy so we all knew its nothing new. We are talking about Pocket pcs but As for Multimedia you could wait for Omnia HD which is the king.
I was going to buy Omnia HD but well Its not going to come with windows mobile ,For now Topaz was the best choice for me because i couldn't wait anymore.
For those who can Wait ,We are going to see new generation of pocket pcs within 2 or 3 month so you can wait.
PhilXdaOrbit2 said:
mine too
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Common boys,Doesn't matter where you get it but they are all same. Please read various reviews of Topaz every where and you will see this problem is not just about me.
peterbonge said:
I don't know what's wrong with your device(s), but mine is recording fine with 30 fps.
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Mine only records at just under 20fps. How are you getting 30fps? Is there a tweak or something I'm missing? Thanks
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mine too
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How do you tell? I've got it set for VGA but it only records at about 16-19fps.
I've just switched from a N95 to a D2 and the video looks great on the D2 compared to the N95.
I just got my D2 last week so could it be a newer ROM?
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Mine only records at just under 20fps. How are you getting 30fps? Is there a tweak or something I'm missing? Thanks
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I think I can solve this mystery now: The D2 records with variable frame rate. Some programs or tools (like GSpot) are showing only the maximal frame rate, which is indeed 30 fps. Other tools are showing the averaged frame rate. Now I've found a tool called MediaInfo, which shows all frame rates. I've just tested it with a recorded video:
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Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 19.228 fps
Minimum frame rate : 7.500 fps
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 fps
peterbonge said:
I think I can solve this mystery now: The D2 records with variable frame rate. Some programs or tools (like GSpot) are showing only the maximal frame rate, which is indeed 30 fps. Other tools are showing the averaged frame rate. Now I've found a tool called MediaInfo, which shows all frame rates. I've just tested it with a recorded video:
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Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 19.228 fps
Minimum frame rate : 7.500 fps
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 fps
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It has 5 kind of Resolution:
1- S(128x96)
2-M(176x144)
3-L(320x240)
4-CIF(352x288)
5-VGA(640x480)
payameno said:
It has 5 kind of Resolution:
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What do you want to tell us with this listing? I was talking about the frame rate and not the resolution.
peterbonge said:
What do you want to tell us with this listing? I was talking about the frame rate and not the resolution.
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Each Resolution has its own Frame rate,For VGA its 15 fps
payameno said:
Each Resolution has its own Frame rate,For VGA its 15 fps
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Have you checked that with MediaInfo? The results I've posted are from a VGA recording.
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Have you checked that with MediaInfo? The results I've posted are from a VGA recording.
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Not actually,Im just saying that as its what GSMArena reviews says.
I think there is something strange here.
How a same VGA Resolution does the recording with such various Frame rates? There is no option to change Rates so basically it just records with an invariable rate which it seems to be 15 fps for the VGA resolution.
Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!
buy a video camera?
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buy a video camera?
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
hypersonicx said:
People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.
Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.
it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.
the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html
HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?
Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.
You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?