I have an Alpine on O2 (UK) running all the default software and ROMs.
My mother has some old Samsung phone - black & white text only style.
When I send her text messages, she'll often receive several, all of which say "Incompatible message format"... I'm just sending ordinary SMS.
I noticed today when I was typing a message to her, that in the place where it shows how many characters there are and how many messages it will take, it said 155/3 SMS - meaning there are 155 characters and it will take 3 SMS to send it... Why could this be?
Does anyone know what's going on?
it's because you use symbols that are not standart english.
and when you use them in sms they are send not as ordinary text, but in unicode - thats' why there's 70 letters for 1 sms. On my 2020i on eng. keyboard there is symbol ' near spacebar which is not standart so using it turns sms to be send in unicode.
Your mother's phone doesn't support unicode as I see... so try to use standard symbols only - maybe on your keyboard layout there are others not like mine, but you can determine which it is by typing them all and watching when sms letter limit moves from 160 to 70.
Ahh thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I think it's when autocomplete inserts a nonstandard apostrophe in certain words that will be doing it then.
Turned off the autocorrect thing which adds the nonstandard apostrophe, sent some test messages and its all sorted now. Thanks again.
I've come across an burdening issue sending a txt with multiple recipients. Though the grouped chat style text messaging is an incredible advantage, there are some cons and i'm wondering if they can be fixed somehow.
Because of the chat style text messaging, your first outgoing message gets coped to your inbox. Is there any way for the first outgoing message to NOT be copied to your inbox?
This poses an issue for when you are sening a mass/group text message. For example, if i send out "Happy New Year" to 50 people in one text, i get 50 outgoing copies in my inbox.
Suggestions?
It doesnt really get copied, The threaded sms app just shows that you started a conversation with those recipients. I do see what your saying though, and i guess it can get somewhat annoying having all those open conversations in your inbox, BUT now you only have those 50 or so threads in your inbox as opposed to (like me) thousands of messages to scroll through. Plus as an added benefit you can see who replied in an orderly fashion. I for one would like the option to turn sms threading on/off, but I guess this is progress...
theformula said:
It doesnt really get copied, The threaded sms app just shows that you started a conversation with those recipients. I do see what your saying though, and i guess it can get somewhat annoying having all those open conversations in your inbox, BUT now you only have those 50 or so threads in your inbox as opposed to (like me) thousands of messages to scroll through. Plus as an added benefit you can see who replied in an orderly fashion. I for one would like the option to turn sms threading on/off, but I guess this is progress...
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Well as much as i love it, i would like to see that the program doesn't show the started conversation on the first initial text message. It should show it when they reply. This would solve the group text messaging issue
marscandybars said:
Well as much as i love it, i would like to see that the program doesn't show the started conversation on the first initial text message. It should show it when they reply. This would solve the group text messaging issue
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I totally agree, maybe someone with more skills than I can look into this and corrosponding registry keys?
theformula said:
I totally agree, maybe someone with more skills than I can look into this and corrosponding registry keys?
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If it's even something that can be edited... might be part of the program's code.
I'd like to be able to move the messages into another folder but cant seem to find out a way to do it as the option isnt highlighted
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i had been looking for a way too actually see other peoples smileys in my text messages.then of course wanted to be able to send them out as well. here you go... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328363 xda rocks... if you can think of it, someone else has already figured it out. haha lololo!!!
edit: for outgoing text smiley see post 201!
Do any of them work on the 6.1 threaded yet?
TheSlim529 said:
Do any of them work on the 6.1 threaded yet?
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they work on wm 6.1 but not in the threading part. the first incoming notification shows contact pictures and smileys. you can add smileys through threaded part of conversations and send, but you don't see them on threaded conversation page. you can however open the text the old fashion way and see all smileys.
oops i made a mistake
so does this work fine on the htc pro?
fishwiz45 said:
they work on wm 6.1 but not in the threading part. the first incoming notification shows contact pictures and smileys. you can add smileys through threaded part of conversations and send, but you don't see them on threaded conversation page. you can however open the text the old fashion way and see all smileys.
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Has this been worked out yet?
Hi,
i just got myself a TYTN II but can't find a way of sending any emoticons with my Texts, can this not be done on the tytn or am i missing something ?
Tony
it's not a std part of outlook so tytn must be using a 3th party program to make the characters(thats all sms's consist off) into emotes
find the program and install it and you're set
Smiley SMS is what you're after
Get it from here
Kool little program. it doesn't change anything apart from colon's and brackets (or p's, etc.) to emoticons.
is there nothing that will let you just have the emoticons in the menu when doing a text ?
That link you provided doesn't go anywhere ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=12421425
what is the "kool little program" name?
curious to know myself
you would think that with all the programing that can be for for the tytn that something as simple as having emoticons in a text would be no problem.
Tony
SMS's are all text. I suppose a program could translate them into smilies on your screen (e.g. just like on this board) but wouldn't the receiver have to have a similar program to also interpret them?
yes it would
Bumping this tread as it should be removed or from or updated in Kaiser FAQ due broken link:
Q: I want emoticons for messaging. Where can I get them?
A: You can read about and get them HERE
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ok, dont kill me, the forum internal search did not spit out something seful ;-)
and google also not, and google sux!
my question:
i can tick the option, that i get every delivery of my short text checked, with an sms back, that the thing is done.
is there a possibility that all this works a bit more nicer?
no extra sms?
may be just a different color or symbol behind the sms?
like on my sony ericson or so?
any ideas or solutions?
I don't know if I understood exactly:
1. in message: click on all messages, then MENU -> TOOLS -> OPTIONS -> select SMS/MMS -> request delivery notification
2. when you send an SMS, if you look at all messages, if it was not delivered, you'll see an unopened envelope. When delivered, you'll see the envelope opened
@1.
yes i did activated that "request delivery notification"
but at my windows phone, the notification comes as an extra sms back to me.
on my sony phone (not windows mobile!) it came back and changed the status icon at the saved sms inside the "sent" folder...
on winmobile i have an extra anoying sms in my incoming folder...
@2.
do you have it smoother looking like i described my sony situation?
thanx in advance
just remove the 1st of my points. The thing with the envelope happens anyhow ... I have no 1 deactivated. I know that on sony ericsson there would be a message to inform receival, but it wouldn't be saved. It was a good idea
if i deactivate the recive approve message, then i do not know if the sms is actually arrived on the other phone!!!!
the nevelope icon change is only on oyur own phone i guess, only sent or unsend is displayed there i guess... without any information interaction with the outside world of your isp!
let me see...
edit: checked. So, I have number 1 disabled and still, when I send a message, when it's not received the envelope is closed. When received, the envelope has a yellow letter inside. To check, send a message, and fast press all messages (the bottom left option) and then you'll see. Tell me if it works with your topaz
no!
its like i ve said...
if the message left my mobe... there is the open envelope with the letter inside...
windows mobile does not have some hidden usage of a feedback-recieving-back-sms that changes the envelope icon...
okay,m but when you tap all messages fast after send, do you see the closed envelope or you don't see it at all?
hm..
please tell me in detail what actions you mean i should perform to get the special behavior.
when i tap the send button.
my text is added under the rest of the sms conversation (like on my iPhone)
me and the other persons sms mixed like a chat....
when i got quickly to all the sms-conversation-list...
"incoming" (or so, i have a german phone)
every envelope is opened (marked read)
strange ... when I I send a message, it is stored in oinbox, and when I tap (in the same menu) all messages, the message that I sent is in an enclosed envelope and then, it turns into an opened one ... :-? meaning it is received, or so I think :-?
when u tab it, its typicall outlook beahvior, then it shows, that you did read it ;-)
not the other person...
but bad luck, that no one else is contributing here :-/
will do some experiments though ... :-?. I think you are right ... sorry for my mistake ... there must be some options not to save the notification. Will search
Use SMS reports eraser. It's free and deletes the delivery report after a defined period of time.
No fancy colors or such, but does its job nicely.
thank you for this. Cheers!!!
it does only erase the reports?
does it also change the icons or so?
where does it come from? webpage?
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thank you, by the way!!! ;-)
ok... i used google after posting my message...
sorry ;-)
just deleting is one way...
any other smoother looking way?
should try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529289
sorry, but do you really speak english and understand what you read and understand what you write?
do u understand the windows mobile and the pocket pc?
the thing you refer me too is again something different
that is a hotfix and directed you so that you should post there a question. Someone has tried it and maybe the HTC guys did something with the notification saved to messages. The idea was to ask there whether the messages were still saved. No matter, I'll ask 8-|
ok, sorry, u did mean well.
but again, the hotfix does something with the vibration, nothing else ;-)
no smooth designed coded solution for us ;-)