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So not only do you have to pay up to a $325 ET fee to the carrier if you don't fulfill your 2 year contract, but ADD up to $400 more to Amazon!!
AmazonWireless Terms and Conditions
Instant Discount Policy
When you purchase your device with service from AmazonWireless.com, we automatically pass along an instant discount based on a commission paid to AmazonWireless by your wireless service carrier. The commission depends upon your continued service, and if you do not maintain your service for 181 days from the service activation date, AmazonWireless must return the commission to the carrier. Thus, this discount has been provided to you in good faith based on your agreement to (a) activate a new or extend an existing line of service for the device(s) with the carrier for two years, (b) maintain this line of service in good standing, and (c) not alter the line of service type other than adding an additional line of service to an individual account for at least 181 consecutive days.
The following are some scenarios where we may determine that you have not maintained your service and have not met the requirements listed above:
If your device with the carrier is not activated per Amazon's activation instructions within 14 days
If your service is canceled/disconnected before 181 days and you do not return the device(s) to Amazon
If a new individual or new family account is merged with or replaces a pre-existing account
If you transfer this equipment to another carrier's service or to another line in your family account and deactivate the line that Amazon established for your device
By accepting this Instant Discount Policy, you agree to repay $400 per smart phone or tablet and $200 per other device if you do not maintain your carrier service for 181 consecutive days from the service activation date. You also authorize us to collect that amount using any credit card we have on record for you. Amazon can periodically check your account status with the carrier to confirm your line of service is active and in good standing and thereby confirm you are in compliance with this policy.
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Damn Amazon trying to get deep into pockets.
TravisBean said:
So not only do you have to pay up to a $325 ET fee to the carrier if you don't fulfill your 2 year contract, but ADD up to $400 more to Amazon!!
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Don't buy phones for a penny (or any discount) with the intention of canceling your contact earlier than (I think, I didn't read your posted T&C's) six months and you won't have this problem.
Sympathy level: 0
I am pretty sure I'm wrong about the six months I mentioned earlier but my original point stands.
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FlyGurl said:
Don't buy phones for a penny (or any discount) with the intention of canceling your contact earlier than (I think, I didn't read your posted T&C's) six months and you won't have this problem.
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Was thinking about getting a galaxy s3 under contract, and just paying the $325 early termination fee, rather than buying one outright for $550. If you break your contract and pay the early termination fee, it doesn't hurt your credit rating.
TravisBean said:
Was thinking about getting a galaxy s3 under contract, and just paying the $325 early termination fee, rather than buying one outright for $550. If you break your contract and pay the early termination fee, it doesn't hurt your credit rating.
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That wasn't my point.....And you know it.
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FlyGurl said:
That wasn't my point.....And you know it.
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But it was mine....................
TravisBean said:
Was thinking about getting a galaxy s3 under contract, and just paying the $325 early termination fee, rather than buying one outright for $550. If you break your contract and pay the early termination fee, it doesn't hurt your credit rating.
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So just don't try to get phones for less than they cost and it's a non-issue? Buyers definitely need to beware...
That's pretty normal for lots of places. In the UK you get a contract for 12, 18 or 24 months and the phone is charged on a sliding scale, but you're tied to that contract for that time. For example, I got my S2 in July 2011. It was free, but on a 24 month contract where I pay about £30 a month for a bunch of free calls, texts and data. If I were to break the contract at any time then they'd simply multiply my monthly contract cost by the number of months I had left and charge me that (or maybe a little less).
I've only ever had 1 phone for virtually nothing and that was because they changed the prices on the contract after I'd signed up, and the change went beyond some threshold they were allowed to go over. 1000's of people across the UK cancelled their contracts legally and kept their phones. I'd had a HTC Touch HD for about 3 months on contract and I think I'd paid about £75 at that point.
But anyway, I digest.
Pay for your phones you cheapskate
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So just don't try to get phones for less than they cost and it's a non-issue? Buyers definitely need to beware...
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Nothing wrong with trying to look for the best possible deal, even if it means breaking your contract (provided you pay the early termination fee).
My point is that Amazon is double dipping by adding their early termination fee in addition to the carrier's early termination fee.
Amazons price for the S3 is only $20 less than Radio Shack, yet they are willing to charge you $400 more if you break your contract.
As the thread title states "Buyer Beware"
Archer said:
Pay for your phones you cheapskate
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Guilty as charged, Cheapskate is my middle name !!
TravisBean said:
Nothing wrong with trying to look for the best possible deal, even if it means breaking your contract (provided you pay the early termination fee).
My point is that Amazon is double dipping by adding their early termination fee in addition to the carrier's early termination fee.
Amazons price for the S3 is only $20 less than Radio Shack, yet they are willing to charge you $400 more if you break your contract.
As the thread title states "Buyer Beware"
Guilty as charged, Cheapskate is my middle name !!
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Ah right, so you do have early termination fees with carriers then, but Amazon are banging their own on top of it. In that case totally disregard my previous post (except the cheapskate bit)
TravisBean said:
Nothing wrong with trying to look for the best possible deal, even if it means breaking your contract (provided you pay the early termination fee).
My point is that Amazon is double dipping by adding their early termination fee in addition to the carrier's early termination fee.
Amazons price for the S3 is only $20 less than Radio Shack, yet they are willing to charge you $400 more if you break your contract.
As the thread title states "Buyer Beware"
Guilty as charged, Cheapskate is my middle name !!
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No they aren't. What you quoted clearly explains the fee. If you cancel before 6 months is up, they have to return their commission to the carrier, so they charge you for it. What is so hard to understand? Besides most people have no problem keeping a phone active for 6 short months.
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Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
I to hate losing discounts on equipment, but Sprint has to make money somewhere. Lower monthly rates (yes, 25 a month for unlimited talk/text 1GB of data is LOW) usually means a higher cost somewhere.
I have an unlimited everything plan for 45 a month on the Framily plan, phone costs 25 a month, but heck, I'll take it! Better than anything Big Red or TMob can do.
I will direct your attention to the fine print if you want to be even more upset, particularly the section about data and video streaming.
I'm on mobile, but if memory serves, it basically says that framily plans get bumped down in case of localized high data demand + video streaming is limited to the point of being useless to ease network congestion.
Hesse: data will remain unlimited. Yeah, OK guy.
No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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Just checked my bill, I have 3 lines, and all of them are getting $10 off, making them $45 each. You get more off for each line until they're down to $25 each, IIRC.
First of all, for clarification purposes I think it's appropriate to call them "device subsidies" rather than "discounts".
Next, I am not sure what the OP's "big surprise" here is. The Framily plan is a no-contract engagement. As such there are no device subsides provided under it. This isn't any different than any of the other large carriers' no-contract offerings.
clshores said:
Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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No argument on most of the points. My biggest complaint is that they don't come out and tell you up front that this is the way it works. It all just seems a little deceiving to me. I will get my first Framily bill soon and I will see what my actual monthly change is and then I will pass judgement on what/if the savings based on a traditional plan will be.
Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when I can't download or even make a call from my house.
@jtsv. I have the same plan so I think I will stay on it as well. I pay $190 for 4 lines unlimited everything.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
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Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when i can't download or even make a call from my house.
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When I hit 6 lines I could no longer use the Family 1500 plan. I had to go to the My Everything plan. Like I said I will have to analyse the bill and see if I should switch back.
travisw0204 said:
Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
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They are currently waiving the $15 fee.
Woah, thanks for the info. I was thinking about switching to the framily plan but hadn't looked into it yet. Now I know it's not for me. It may be a good choice for people who don't mind keeping phones for a long time though.
With sprint, read the fine print
So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
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So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
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Essentially. But with the added feature of not being under contract which means you can jump ship at any time unless you still have time left on your existing contract then you will be contract free from that point forward.
I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
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I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
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There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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Ah ok thanks that's what i was wondering I was assuming you have to turn your phone in.
**Really sorry if I shouldn't have asked a question here, but wherever I try to post it, it pops up with a message saying it's not a Q&A forum, but I can't see where I should put it, plus the answer would be really useful to others I should imagine**
Hi
Just over a week ago I released my first Android app, I made an ad supported free version, and a paid version with no ads in it.
Since having a look around the settings in my Google Merchant account, I discovered a section about setting tax rates for my apps.
I have been through the hassle of getting the rates for each country I want my apps sold in.
I am wondering whether that was the correct thing to do, I have seen things on various forums saying I don't need to collect VAT unless I earn over £81,000 (I'm in the UK btw, and I'd be quite happy to make £100), others have said only put in the tax rate for the country which I'm selling from, others have said input for every country selling to.
I'm confused as to which I should have done.
Also, I saw that it said that Google will take the VAT off the gross price, then take their 30% off the net price, they will then pass on the gross price minus their cut, e.g.:
if app is £1
UK VAT is 20% so £1 minus 20% is £0.80
Google will take 30% of the £0.80, so this would be £0.24
They will then pass on the gross price minus their cut, so pass on £0.76
The way I read that I have £0.20 which is VAT sitting in my bank account, am I supposed to pay this in somehow, even if I'm not VAT registered, do I have to do that for every country around the world that I sell my apps to? And can I pay it all to the UK government or do I have to pay each relevant government their cut?
It's only a 69p app, I'm an unknown, I don't expect it to make huge amounts of money, I just wanted to learn and see how far I could get, might even look good on my CV, but the "paperwork" side of getting this thing up and running has been a headache.
For a multi billion dollar company, I think Google have done a really bad job of trying to encourage people that aren't part of large companies to develop apps, Apple deal with it all for you!
Money Saving Expert (great UK forum for anything to do with money have answered the question for me, as being a No don't put tax rates on as charging VAT when not VAT registered (due to being below the threshold) is fraud
I'm from Italy and I'm blocked on this question too.
Is there somebody who knows The Answer?
Walked into tmobile so I could take a glance at the note 5 and s6+ ( not impressed at all) and blah blah blah ended up talking to a sales person about jump and how it works. I was in a hurry, but she didn't explain the 2 different types very well. I know I'm on the first one where I pay 10$ a month but she mentioned something about them paying off the rest of the phone for me.. but she also threw out there something about them only paying for half of what I owe.. just hoping someone can clear it up. From what I read jump on demand is a leasing type deal. Anyway thanks in advance! !
Have no clue they where charging me $440+ had to return my beloved note 4. At this very moment I'm saying heck know. It's nice device but I'm not paying that much again for a phone with minor improvements. Yes I said "minor" kill me people. The motox pure would probably cost the same UNLOCKED with all the custom things I want on it. And I keep my note 4? Hmmm does sound better
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I mean, what do you want to know? They're both pretty easy to figure out.
The standard jump plan you pay $10/mo and get the jump plan and insurance. you pay monthly for 24 months on the full price of the device. In CA and some other places, you pay sales tax on the full price of the phone up front. You either have to wait until your phone is 50% paid off to trade it in (new jump plan) or can trade it in every 6 months regardless of amount owed on the phone (original jump plan), depending on when you signed up for the jump plan. I have 2 lines on the original plan.
The lease, you pay a monthly price as stated, and as most all leasing goes, that price is for a portion of the price of the phone. The lease term is 18 months. At the end of 18 months, you either have to pay the remainder of the price of the phone(and keep the phone, and I have no idea how sales tax would work at that point, but have no intentions on finding out), or trade it in for another lease. In CA, you DO NOT pay any sales tax up front to get your device. You can trade it in 3x per 18 months.
I have my daughter on the iPhone 6 lease, we pay $12/mo due to the $60 some odd down payment we had to give them.. My credit isn't terrible, I'm not sure how they figured the down payment.
Clear as mud?
My Google-Fu failed me today.
I went in Nov 1 to pick up my 6T, trading in an original OnePlus One for the $300 credit. After 2 weeks, nothing had happened with regards to said credit on my bill. When I looked at my receipt today, I noticed the trade in value of my One was $0 where it was supposed to be $300, since they evaluated the phone, and approved it in store. The receipt did have the proper model and the serial number on it, so a red flag did go up for me.
Then I tried looking online for anyone in a similar predicament and failed to find a case similar to mine. I went through the call back feature of T-Mobile's website to speak with a rep, which quickly went downhill. She insisted that the store had to mail in the One to a warehouse, who would then evaluate the phone to determine how much credit I was due. The phone was waiting on me to send in, according to her records. Her script, wherever she was, couldn't take into account that the entire transaction occurred in store, she hadn't heard of the OnePlus specific promotion the first week of Nov.
After less specific (Not this OnePlus promotion) searching on trade in credits from T-Mobile, I found the T-Force group on Twitter. After an hour in Chat waiting for a rep, the entire problem was resolved in a matter of minutes. My promotion was re-submitted with the RMA number given at trade in time, approved and an additional credit given for the earlier farce of customer service.
I was giving up on the T-Force ever responding, and had left 2 "reviews" with T-Mobile about the first call, one online and the other through the automated text after the initial call. I got a response just before giving another online rant about the Twitter waiting experience.
TLDR: Don't expect much from the 1st line of T-Mobile customer phone support. Use T-Force Chat on Twitter to resolve problems, just be a bit more patient than I initially was. Pay attention to your receipt details.
Mine is the same way bill came no credit called and they just transferred never said anything and sat on hold for ever.
So confused. You got $300 for your oneplus One?
So the way the promo works is this.
You get credits that day that on the value of the phone. That value is subtracted from $300 dollars, which you get the rest in the way of monthly bill credits over 24 months.
Let's say you trade in a one plus one. It's worth $0. Once the promo kicks in you get ,$12.50 or whatever every month on your account.
Let's say you trade in a Pixel 2 worth $100. They put $100 on your account right then, and then put the remaining $200 on your account in the form of bill credits over 24 months. So like 8.50 a month or whatever the credit will be.
You traded in a one plus one. Which is worth $0. You get none right away. And it can take up to 2 bill periods before your credits start kicking in.
Let's use myself as an example. I traded in an iPhone 6. The trade in value was $36. That $36 went towards taxes, so I only paid 20 something if the 50 something taxes. I will get $263 in monthly credit over the span of 24 months. So it's like $10,xx a month.
You actually did it the best way, as now you will get the most you can over the 24month period since your phone was worth $0. You'll get $12.50 I think it is over 24 months off your bill. Which is stated to be between 1-2 bill cycles before it kicks in.
All of this is explained in the details of the deal when it was going on. You do NOT instantly get $300 on your account for trading in your phone, nor did you trade in a phone worth that amount. You will get that amount, minus the initial worth, over 24 months.
The $300 credit is 12.50 a month for 24 months, yes. What I was told by the representative during the last conversation was the store should have shown the $300 value on the receipt instead of 0. Again, all of the listed phones on the promotion were automatically given the $300 credit over 24 months, according to the rep. Maybe I was being blown off, but I asked that specifically due to a zero value on the end of my receipt. Where I had the most issue was the initial conversation, the rep incorrectly told me that the warehouse would evaluate if my OnePlus One qualified for any credit due to age and condition. The store I traded in at did the evaluation, determined the One was functional and within the trade in parameters, and qualified for the special credit. I had heard and read about people getting the promotion applied within a week, so they could pay the phone off and continue receiving monthly credits. This is what I was waiting for myself.
This thread is to let people in a similar situation know, in my opinion, to skip the representatives from the T-Mobile website, and go straight to the T-Force folks on Twitter chat for actual results.
They specifically say that it can take up to two billing cycle for the credit to show up. I did this with 2 phones on day 1. I am not concerned unless it doesn't show up on the 3rd billing cycle.
I used to do that job with trades. If we or any store rep marked the phone as good no physical or liquid damage and powers on, then that's it and there's no changing it. It doesn't matter if the phone looked like it had been chewed on by rabid aids monkeys or disappeared, once it's approved as a good device, it's a good device and you should have got your credits.
There is no changing the condition at the store level after it's complete and there's def no warehouse that will change that rating for the customer. Now if it indeed is a jacked phone, the store itself gets hit with a loss, not the customer.
The rep probably hit the wrong check box in timo or if they had retail computers still, quick view . They make it easy to do that because of muscle memory of where to click over and over but it should have been caught before the end.
My guess is that you were talking to those completely inept and clueless idiots in the Philippines. Don't EVER deal with those people. ever!
Glad you got it worked out buddy
OMG those clueless agents in the Philippines on a weekend is a nightmare. Don't ever call TMobile on the weekend. You'll go straight to the. And they have absolutely no authority to make any decisions. You'll basically waste your time.
drbob15 said:
My Google-Fu failed me today.
I went in Nov 1 to pick up my 6T, trading in an original OnePlus One for the $300 credit. After 2 weeks, nothing had happened with regards to said credit on my bill. When I looked at my receipt today, I noticed the trade in value of my One was $0 where it was supposed to be $300, since they evaluated the phone, and approved it in store. The receipt did have the proper model and the serial number on it, so a red flag did go up for me.
Then I tried looking online for anyone in a similar predicament and failed to find a case similar to mine. I went through the call back feature of T-Mobile's website to speak with a rep, which quickly went downhill. She insisted that the store had to mail in the One to a warehouse, who would then evaluate the phone to determine how much credit I was due. The phone was waiting on me to send in, according to her records. Her script, wherever she was, couldn't take into account that the entire transaction occurred in store, she hadn't heard of the OnePlus specific promotion the first week of Nov.
After less specific (Not this OnePlus promotion) searching on trade in credits from T-Mobile, I found the T-Force group on Twitter. After an hour in Chat waiting for a rep, the entire problem was resolved in a matter of minutes. My promotion was re-submitted with the RMA number given at trade in time, approved and an additional credit given for the earlier farce of customer service.
I was giving up on the T-Force ever responding, and had left 2 "reviews" with T-Mobile about the first call, one online and the other through the automated text after the initial call. I got a response just before giving another online rant about the Twitter waiting experience.
TLDR: Don't expect much from the 1st line of T-Mobile customer phone support. Use T-Force Chat on Twitter to resolve problems, just be a bit more patient than I initially was. Pay attention to your receipt details.
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Must have been something else wrong with either your phone or your account. I traded in my old 3T with a scratched screen and got my $300.00 rebate within a couple of days. I have also unlocked my phone and received my unlocking.bin key from OnePlus and am now rocking the international version. Other than having to wait on customer service in the store, for what seemed like an eternetity, I have no issues with tmobiles version of the phone. Exactly as advertised.
They were trying to explain this to me in the store and it still doesn't make sense. I traded in a S8 which they send is worth $190 upfront and 110 in bill credits. What I don't understand (and am waiting for my bill before I say anything) is where did that $190 go? I know some of it went to pay for the taxes ($51) but where's the rest? I get that he was trying to explain what you just did but the rest of the 139 wasn't used to pay for anything. Can you help me understand that part?
I told him I didn't care how it broke down as long as I'm getting $300 back doesn't matter if it's in 1 shot or monthly.
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All of my fun in store was in a suburb of Houston, TX. I saw people online have their credit show up far more quickly than I was experiencing, which started the events posted above. After the phone calls I went through, I went to Twitter. This is where I was told I should have seen the $300 credit on my receipt. The first rep whom I spoke with, and allegedly a supervisor later, told me I had to wait for the warehouse to approve my promotional credit, which didn't seem right. I was prepared to wait the 2 billing cycles if necessary. I just wanted to verify I was getting the monthly credits at some point. I may have come across still upset, which led to the immediate credit on this months bill, or they felt that the error was that egregious during my first interactions. I am impressed that the T-Force rep on Twitter was able to handle my situation so quickly, and I intended to share my opinion here that anyone in a similar situation bypass the phone reps and go online directly to Twitter chat with T-Force.
I traded in a OnePlus One that had been in a case with screen protector its entire usage, removed both that morning. The device was handled and evaluated minimally and determined to meet the requirements. The instore rep told me that the entire $300 credit would be applied in monthly payments, starting with the next cycle (beginning of Dec). I went home with the new 6T and didn't immediately worry about my bill. After 2 weeks had passed, I went through my account, usage, billing, etc and couldn't find anything. I found the RMA number on my receipt and put it in on the trade in page online, which showed the status at waiting for customer to mail phone in. Which was not what should have been showing according to the reps later on with a clue. What I was told was the trade in status should have updated fairly quickly, even if the monthly credits didn't appear as quickly. I don't know if any immediate trade in credit would show up on the account before the next cycle.
I believe the trade in page with RMA number should answer some of the other's questions.
https://manage.my.t-mobile.com/TradeInDevice.aspx
Also, under plan on the My Account page, it now shows the 6T Promotion active on my account.
jdiddy_ub said:
They were trying to explain this to me in the store and it still doesn't make sense. I traded in a S8 which they send is worth $190 upfront and 110 in bill credits. What I don't understand (and am waiting for my bill before I say anything) is where did that $190 go? I know some of it went to pay for the taxes ($51) but where's the rest? I get that he was trying to explain what you just did but the rest of the 139 wasn't used to pay for anything. Can you help me understand that part?
I told him I didn't care how it broke down as long as I'm getting $300 back doesn't matter if it's in 1 shot or monthly.
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Out of your $300.00, if there is any money owed on your account, that amount is deducted, plus all sales taxes are also deducted. The rest of the monies are spread out over 2 years as credits. Depending on those aforementioned variables, that will determine how much ones monthly credits are.
jdiddy_ub said:
They were trying to explain this to me in the store and it still doesn't make sense. I traded in a S8 which they send is worth $190 upfront and 110 in bill credits. What I don't understand (and am waiting for my bill before I say anything) is where did that $190 go? I know some of it went to pay for the taxes ($51) but where's the rest? I get that he was trying to explain what you just did but the rest of the 139 wasn't used to pay for anything. Can you help me understand that part?
I told him I didn't care how it broke down as long as I'm getting $300 back doesn't matter if it's in 1 shot or monthly.
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The 190 goes toward the balance owed on the phone plus taxes.
You are buying the 6t for 580 + tax. Let's assume tax on your transaction was 60 bucks. 60 dollars out of your 190 credit will cover your taxes. The remaining 130 will apply towards the balance on the phone. The remaining balance will be 450. Your monthly equipment installment plan payment will be 450/24=18.75/month. You will receive a credit every month of 110/24=4.58 every month for 24 months. In total 300 dollars in credits .190 up front and 110 in bill credits.
They just told me trade in for the v30 is 90 bucks. So I get a 90 dollar bill credit then full credits on the device from then on is what I was told
I did the whole "payoff and unlock the phone" via twitter (after trying in store, on tmobile phone, and tmobile chat) a few weeks ago. The rep on twitter told me multiple times that I would still receive 24 monthly credits totaling $300 even though I paid the phone off early. A few days later I received another twitter message from her stating that she was unable to apply the credits over 24 months so instead she would apply a flat $300 credit to my bill. A few days later when I received my next bill there was a credit on it for $300. I'm shocked that she actually did what she said she would.
Just another data point that Twitter support from tmobile is good.
raing said:
I did the whole "payoff and unlock the phone" via twitter (after trying in store, on tmobile phone, and tmobile chat) a few weeks ago. The rep on twitter told me multiple times that I would still receive 24 monthly credits totaling $300 even though I paid the phone off early. A few days later I received another twitter message from her stating that she was unable to apply the credits over 24 months so instead she would apply a flat $300 credit to my bill. A few days later when I received my next bill there was a credit on it for $300. I'm shocked that she actually did what she said she would.
Just another data point that Twitter support from tmobile is good.
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That's good to know they took care of you. I know my rep told me to wait until the payments kicked in before paying it off. Not to mention many here said the same thing. I guess this is what happens. The system doesn't know what to do if you're fully paid off. But it's good to see reps taking care of people by just giving full payments.
raing said:
I did the whole "payoff and unlock the phone" via twitter (after trying in store, on tmobile phone, and tmobile chat) a few weeks ago. The rep on twitter told me multiple times that I would still receive 24 monthly credits totaling $300 even though I paid the phone off early. A few days later I received another twitter message from her stating that she was unable to apply the credits over 24 months so instead she would apply a flat $300 credit to my bill. A few days later when I received my next bill there was a credit on it for $300. I'm shocked that she actually did what she said she would.
Just another data point that Twitter support from tmobile is good.
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I'm not sure what their policy is on that either. The guy in store said if I tried to pay it off early I would lose my bill credits and an online rep confirmed that. On the t-mobile website, it says you can pay off an EIP early and still get your bill credits. The credits would be lost only if you cancelled your service. Which make sense because its a "contract" without being a contract.
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mokash34 said:
The 190 goes toward the balance owed on the phone plus taxes.
You are buying the 6t for 580 + tax. Let's assume tax on your transaction was 60 bucks. 60 dollars out of your 190 credit will cover your taxes. The remaining 130 will apply towards the balance on the phone. The remaining balance will be 450. Your monthly equipment installment plan payment will be 450/24=18.75/month. You will receive a credit every month of 110/24=4.58 every month for 24 months. In total 300 dollars in credits .190 up front and 110 in bill credits.
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He never explained that the remainder would act as a downpayment. If that's how it works, thats fine with me. Will wait until the bill comes to see what this looks like. Thanks
When I bought mine on the first day all I saw on the receipt was $16 for my Nexus 6. A couple of days later I got a text from T-Mobile stating that my promotional value was approved. I have checked online and I am getting the monthly credit.
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I got mine on the trade in and add a line and the oneplus 6t is free... T mobile will pay the EIP haven't been billed yet but I traded my oneplus 5t and paid taxes so my credit is 24 something but the EIP will be 19 something will the remaining be credited to the account our to the EIP?