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wi-fi actual speed

Does anyone knows what's the actual wi-fi speed, wich the Kaiser is capable of?
If the hotspot speed is 25 Mbits/s etc., will the Kaiser suports that?
Can anyone compare the w-fi speed with SAMSUNG SGH-i600, on the i600 according to http://gsm.mag-city.ru the speed is approx. 1 MByte/s?
Thanks

Tried your posted site for speed test, but it's all in Russian ??? Anyone know of a mobile site for comparisons.

Use that url directly on the PDA device it will detct the speed via UMTS/HSDPA or WI-FI:
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1

Ok I got 140 Kbit/sec and a .686s latency from The Netherlands on T-Mobile 3G.

You should not use 3G when testing the Wi-Fi speed.
Davebravey said:
Ok I got 140 Kbit/sec and a .686s latency from The Netherlands on T-Mobile 3G.
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oops missed that bit, got 1003 K/bits on that.

Is it rue that the wi-fi speed available on the PDA depends from the CPU speed?

Davebravey, how fast is your WLAN accsess is it as fast as the TYTN II WLAN adapter or faster (than 1003 Kb/s)?

My main connection is 6Mb/s - 768 Kb/s ADSL, Using a 54G WiFi AP and I was less than a meter away when i done the test.

Can you do the same test but on your PC web browser?
Is it reporting the same speed?

I mean the same speed as the TYTN II?

Doesn't work on my PC web browser, connections too fast

Choose the option "larger file->1 MB"

still too fast

OK thanks, anyway do you think your PDA is brawsing with slower speed than the one wich capable of-6Mb/s are enough suitable for the TYTN II's wi-fi?

I find it a little slower than my laptop when connected to the same router.

Happy to find this thread as I'm seeing problems with wifi speed on my Kaiser. It works ok when you're right next to the AP but speed quickly falls as you move away, say 10 meters or walk around the house if you look at the Wifi menu the level quickly falls and the speed drops down to 1Mbps (about 140kbps on dslreports). This is not the case with the old PDAs I have hanging around like the Axim X50, HTC Galaxy, HP 6915 or the Qtek 9000. And yes I pushed the wifi slider all the way left for maximum performance.
I'm suprised that no review (at least those I found) mentioned that or maybe it's my unit that has a problem. The "x" is shot on the keyboard so I need to have it changed, will report back with any improvement.
The good news is that HSDPA speed is good, 500+ on dslreports and bursts at 800+ using GPRS Monitor, but that won't help if you're abroad.

Why are you all so bothered what speed you are getting? LOL
You hardly need fast access for browsing or even streaming a video

Not sure why you bothered posting this, but obviously I bothered to post because it's a problem to me, like not being able to stream a 160kbps MP3 file where I usually do it with the old HTC Galaxy. Now if we can get back on topic ?

hello yall.
I'm experiencing the same problems with my kaiser (vodaphone branded v1615). i'hve checked my bandwidth being at 50 cm ob the router and and i've an average of 700 kb. being in my bed (approx 4 meter) it falls at 300 kb. The problem is that i can surf on the web being on my bed + i can't run viewerVnc to control my desktop. Anyone has any idea ?

Wifi signal gone

When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?

cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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Have you put the slider to best performance rather than best battery?

Yes i did
never had the problem with the tytn and wizard.

I only get that on my TyTN II when I'm far away from the router and the signal strength is low. If you've already set the performance vs battery life slider to give maximum performance as suggested by kareem9nba and it's still behaving as reported, what happens when you're near to the router?
If it's just that your saying the range isn't as good as youve been used to with other devices, I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with as this is my first WiFi capable ppc - but I'm sure other more experienced members here will be able to comment. If you're near to the router where there's no doubt it should be working fine and still getting problems then thats a different matter.

maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)

mospantagruel said:
maybe your router needs a restart or maybe its just faulty.
have you tried other devices with same router?
try a wifi sniffer/scanner see what happens (a good example would be PeekPocket)
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All other devices doenst have the problem output signal is ok but i ll try peekpocket

Flying Kiwi said:
I have nothing to compare my TyTN II with
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I do! My Kaiser's performance is on a par with my old HTC Universal, which is to say, they are both terrible at getting a signal. I don't think my Kaiser is faulty as back in the Universal forums, it was often commented how useless the WiFi was in comparison to other machines. I used to have a HP Ipaq 5450 which could get a signal upto approx 20m from my router, my laptop starts struggling at around 50m. The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
I think the WiFi on the Universal and the Kaiser just isn't that powerful. I guess it's Maximum Performance setting is still quite low power in order to save battery life. Wonder if there is a registry tweek to increase the power to the WiFi card, and if doing that would blow the card?!

Steve-C said:
The Universal could just about get a signal upto 4m away, the Kaiser is no better.
I realise much of this is due router location and the fact that I was trying to get WiFi in my garage, but in my bedroom with a full signal on the laptop, the HTC devices struggle to get more than 1 bar and if I move 10cm further away from the router the signal goes completely.
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I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage) and even with a wall and a floor between my TyTN II and the router it still works about 15 m away, I've yet to try any further as that'd be outside the house. I was impressed to see it even detected other WiFi sources in the area though. I found that even though the signal quality bar was fluctuating, my web browsing still worked OK. Bumping the slider towards the performance end did make a difference to the signal quality indicator (although it still fluctuated). If your TyTN II is only working up to 4 m from your router then I think there's a fault with either device, you should be getting better than that.

I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.

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I'm using an 11 Mbps Wifi capable router (about 2003 vintage)
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Funny that, so am I! However I bought it because it was cheap and I really didn't know much about WiFi etc several years ago when I bought it. I notice many routers come with external antenna's, mine is all internal so I would think that it's more my router isn't that powerful, combined with the Kaiser having a less powerful WiFi set-up that older models. To be fair, the Ipaq had an external antenna (of sorts, a little lump on top) and my previous laptops didn't have built in WiFi, their external WiFi adaptors also had external antenna's.
Frankly I think that all this internalisation of components is having a negative impact on signal strength and range. To compare I have a GSM car kit with an external antenna that picks up a much better signal than a phone on it's own. Likewise my GPS can be connected to an external antenna and I've noticed when connected it will pick up more satalites, with a stronger lock, than when on it's built in antenna. It also picks up more than the Kaiser (internal antenna) or Universal (external bluetooth GPS with internal antenna) ever do.
Still, it all just about works for my needs, so I'm going to leave well alone!

Juzzman said:
I can connect to my linksys WRT54G when beside the it and 20mt away. Even when beside it the TynII will cycle off (disconnect) and then reconnect again. I thought it was signal strength but I am beginning to think its just a crappy wifi setup on the tyn. I also have my slider on best performance.
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i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....

checked
i checked signal and even did hard reset on kaiser.
i still have full signal and goes to zero all the time
no clue here

eipiklein said:
i have the same problem... i hope that's a firmware problem....
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But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).

Flying Kiwi said:
But does this actually affect your browsing? In the end the signal quality bar can do whatever it wants as long as the data still gets through as far as I'm concerned and for me that’s happening. My hunch is that the reason why the signal quality bar intermittently dips down (even when nearby a router) is associated with power management on the TyTN II (which will still be in place to a certain degree even when the performance vs. battery life slider is fully at the performance end).
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really i can't connect to my wifi router, while other hardware can (a laptop for example). it loops from "connecting" to "available" with 5 bars. but nevers connect or never shows an error. i tried open, WEP, WPA, WPA2 with no results... its a compatibility problem of TYTN II with some routers....
i hope that upgrading firmware, this problem dissapear....

Hi
My experience isn't that the signal itself is particlarly poor, but that it can be prone to loose connection regularly if its very weak. Atm I'm sitting some 150m from the accesspoint (quite powerfull transmitter), through a couple of concrete walls and its fast, as in almost so fast as the Kaiser can chew. Livestreaming from Youtube is np etc. The signal is no doubt very poor tho, and I have to use max signal/minimum battery on that bar you can adjust.
What drives me nuts is that it DCs me and often force me to key in the network key randomly every 1 to 20mins or so. I don't know if this is due to weak signal (both my laptop and the kaiser have 1 bar) or config of the wlan/kaiser. The PC dont DC, but its deffo a cranky connection. It almost seems like theres some auto-DC feature somewhere.
On other networks I haven't seen this. Generally I find the Kaiser wlan surprisingly powerfull, albeit it often shows a weak signal I've found this to be very relative and far from always descriptive of real life performance.
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kaiser wifi low signal - wi fi poor reception - wifi disconnecting and reconnecting:
Suffered a lot with my kaiser wifi poor reception. Tested several radio versions and could solve the problem.
Radio version:
1 71 09 01 - too low WIFI reception
1.27.12.11 - disconnecting and turning OFF the WIFI with no automatic reengage of the access point or turning ON the WIFI if coverage is good.
1.65.17.56 is the versione that SOLVED my problem.
This radio was collected from the original HTC shipped rom:
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
In this moment I am running Radio 1.65.17.56 with
ROM jjblaster3 - updated 28014 with good WIFI behaviour.
I need to underline that the reception I have now with the Kaiser, can never reach the sensibility of my Nokia 5530 WIFI or the one I have on my laptop with good antenna embeded in my LCD framem but I am happy now because the WIFI is making sense now.
Best Regards

cbgnl said:
When on wifi my kaiser seems to loose the signal and picks it up again.
its just going on and off.
No problem with the routersignal all wireless computers work fine.
anyone knows about this problem?
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I'm facing the same problem. WiFi worked fine and one day it was suddenly gone. Tried quite a few radios, including 1.65.17.56 and still no deal.
To elaborate, when WiFi is turned on, the icon never even comes up in the taskbar, and it continues to remain in an off state (when checked in wifi settings) even when it's turned on (in the comm manager).
I'm guessing this could be a hardware problem like a loose contact to the antenna? Anyone heard of such issues?
(On a side note, the phone function never worked either, I always got a "No Service")

I've fixed it! I believe the problem was indeed a loose antenna. I opened up my phone and removed the antenna peice (the plastic plate that also houses the speaker) and pushed up the two pins left of the camera (so that they'll have better contact with the antenna piece. Put everything back and now the WiFi works!
Now if only I can figure out why the cellular doesn't work..

Are you happy with WIFI reception?

Today I try register TD2 on my university's WIFI system.
The authentication of this system IEEE 802.1x so I need to type ID and password for log-in.
When I used P3600 (trinity,wm5), Registry was okay and I can use in its coverage well.
However TD2 has trouble, when I loged in the wireless system, it suddenly disconnected during type ID or Password. (I solved it by ID copy & Paste) Also, I feel it does not catch WIFI signal well.
After then, I try test two device in my home.
My home has BT Broadband hub1 and I compared Signal Quality graph.
At the weakest aerial area, I cannot see any graph on TD2 but P3600 shows short green graph. By the way, TD2 catch the signal earlier than P3600.
Ok... This situation might be understand but when I put two mobiles in front of Hub (Wireless modem), I found slightly strange result.
The graph of P3600 is full-filled as expected but the graph of TD2 isn't. I think the graph of TD2 is reached almost 80%.
I wish it should be covered by Rom update but if this situation suffered just my device, I concern MY 2nd TD2 has problem. (Of course, I believe I over-worried)
How do you feel the WIFI reception of your Touch Diamond 2?
(P.S.) Sorry, my English is not fluent.

I received my D2 today and have been playing with it by having it connected to my home wifi network. The reception seems fine but occasionally I do see it resync. Suppose it could be better but it hasn't failed on me, so I'm happy neither the less.
EDIT: I had further play with wifi and yes I agree the reception is poor

I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.

gadgetgaz said:
I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
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The condition of test was same condition as possible.
Strength Slider is same 'Best for Battery' and P3600 graph is better than Touch Diamond2.

gadgetgaz said:
I'm not saying this is an answer but have you played with the wifi strength slider? The one that is for better wifi or better battery. It's still there under the bonnet.
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Yeah gave that a go little to no difference mate.

I've got my TD2 since 5 days, and while I am very please with it overall, I agree the wifi reception is poor...
The signal strength is much lower and I loose connection much faster than a laptop...which is probably normal, but reception is also poorer compared to my "old" acer n311 PDA, which is about 2-3 year old...
Reception seems to improve when antenna is not covered by your hand, but unfortunately, as the antena is at the bottom of the TD2, near the mini-USB connector, your hand is almost always over it when you hold the device in one hand....
I have also observed the "never-perfect reception" phenomenon, I can go 1m from my wifi router and be at 80% signal strength only...I would have maxed out signal quality of my laptop much much earlier than that of course...
I hope it will get better, maybe with a radio update, but I fear this is purely hardware driven, so I will just to have to live with it. Too bad, as I typically use my phone/PDA in "wardriving/warwalking" situation, trying to pick the occasional free wifi to download emails and browse during hollidays. I usually have a laptop in situation where I have a secured wifi acces with clean signal...and at home/work, nothing beat a wired gigabit workstation LOL...

Personally, I haven't had any issues with WIFI on my TD2. I have the wifi battery slider set in the middle and I connect first time, everytime to the router at home and at work.

3g speed too fast?

I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?

kylez64 said:
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
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If it goes through a proxy it will screw things up. I once did a GPRS test (on an SE W580i) and got 40kbps with the SE browser. On opera mini it would tell me I was on 56MB

I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.

kylez64 said:
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
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try some other speed test site
mobilespeedtest.com says my 3g speed is 11907 Kbps oO
lukluk says my max speed is 619 Kbps
Xtreme lab's speedtest app says my d/l speed is 447 Kbits/s

speed testing - the badass way
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.

d0ugie said:
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
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well I did this and got around 1-2 mbps witch is still very good for me
one can always dream though lol

[Q] "slow" Wireless AC speeds

I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?

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I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
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In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced

davebugyi said:
In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
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Thanks I read that and tried it to no avail. Speeds were better yesterday at 150Mbs and inline with a coworkers brand new ONE running 4.3. I believe it is just a matter of how HTC deals with packet size (windowing) and not truly indicative of throughput capability. The test runs for a limited time and the throughput increased throughout the entire test. If it ran longer it would climb higher but just how high is the question.
It's a matter of curiosity more than anything as I never need those speeds nor are the repeatable anywhere but in that test"lab" In reality I only have a 100M connection at home and with power boost see speeds of 150 max. I get 100+ reliably (5Ghz N network) to the phone from my main living space and that's nothing to complain about.
I will have to say the range on the ONE is outstanding. My desk is 100 feet from the AP and I was able to obtain 125Mbs reliably from my desk. I didn't have the chance to compare it to the S4 at that distance but I can't complain about that speed.