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I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
It is possible to toggle between spb mobile 2 screens and touchflo 3d though.
Kill Manila.exe
Has anybody come up with an automated(one click) way of killing the Manila.exe process ?
Mortscript
Create a script with Mortscript to check for the presence of manila.exe.
If not present, start it.
If present, kill it.
Create a shortcut to the script in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Assign this shortcut to button 1.
Simon D said:
I think the TouchFlo 3D is fantastic for "showing off" your Touch Diamond, but it's a bit gimmicky, and slightly cumbersome, so I'd like to be able to turn it on and off when it suits me.
Out of the box, to do this you need to go into the homescreen settings and select TouchFlo 3D, or, deselect it, and reselect all your usual homescreen plugins - a bit of a pain.
However, I've realised that browsing to the "Manilla exe" in the Windows directory turns on the TouchFlo without affecting your homescreen plugins. If you then kill the manilla process using a a Task Manager which shows processes, you're straight back to your normal homescreen. I've made a shortcut in the Start Menu so I can toggle between the two relatively quickly and easily.
But, I'm looking for some clever person out there to make a simple app which toggles between TouchFlo 3D and normal homescreens at the press of a button. I'm sure it can't be that difficult (for someone who knows what they're doing)??!! It just needs to launch the Manilla exe and then kill it when you want to turn it off.
Anyone fancy having a go?
Cheers
Simon.
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thought thats called SecondToday?
ToggleManila.mscr
I have the same problem, that I want to turn on TouchFlo 3D, but still want to keep my "Classic" Today Screen intact.
Although I tried SecondToday, however it cannot display the internal plugins such as Tasks, Calendar and Date
Thanks to wensing's suggestion, I created this simple script. If you want to run the script, please follow the instructions below.
a) The first thing you need to do is to disable the TouchFLO 3D from Today Panel Plugins, then activate your favourite Today Plugins (except TF3D)
b) Install MortScript
c) Put the "ToggleManila.mscr" in any folder you prefer.
d) Create a shortcut to this script, name it (eg. ToggleToday.lnk) and put the shortcut inside the folder "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs".
e) Go to Settings->Buttons, and simply assign "Button 1(Hold)" to point to the ToggleToday shortcut.
Of course you are free to experiment with other settings or assign it any other buttons.
Another thing to note is, because TF3D will "take over" the Home hardware button, I have no choice but to kill it, so that the classic Today Screen can be activated after TF3D is killed. However this also means the next time you activate TF3D, it will take some time to load. So please be patient and wait for the TF3D while it is loading.
Anyway, this is my first attempt at using MortScript, just a simple piece of work, but hope that I can bring some joy to my fellow Diamond users.
Hope that it works for you guys
Thanks Wensing
The mortscript suggestion works perfectly.
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
Uncheck TF3D
oldhouse said:
I am running SwiftBL 3.0, and when I launch the script, TouchFLO3d restarts automatically. Does this script work only on roms that have uninstallable manila?
Or do I have to edit some registry settings so that manila doesn't restart automatically?
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Have u tried to uncheck TF3D from Settings->Today->Items before launching the mortscript?
podman2004 said:
when I try and assign a button there are no buttons to select in my menu, any ideas why?
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So far, I am using Settings->Buttons and I assign "ToggleManila" to Button1(Hold). By default this may have been assigned to other programs such as Voice Commander etc. Just replace it with "ToggleManila".
I am not familiar with other more advance programs that allow u to assign it to the other hard buttons, so I am sorry I can't advice u on that.
By the way, u might have to create a shortcut that points to the actual file where u place the ToggleManila.mscr, and then u put this shortcut (I simply name it ToggleManila.lnk) inside Windows->Start Menu->Programs before u can select "ToggleManila".
See if it works.
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
Davey101 said:
This works great, thanks everyone involved!
I find it better than 2nd Today because the device is much quicker without manila running.
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i second this statement. tried it and works great for me on the touch pro
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
charly_mx said:
Have you tried the latest ROMS??
Manila works pretty smooth and yu device will be blazing fast. I will be using it always..
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I'm using Dutty's Diamond v1.8 (full) and used to have speed problems when launching applications, particularly after using the audio player.
TF3D is alright but it doesn't actually do anything that special. The weather screen is pretty but most of the other screens are useless, especially the horribly limited 'favourite contacts'. Now that I've got used to the standard windows today screen I prefer it.
I'm looking forward to trying out Schap's TouchXperience though!
that's work very nice
now we must wait for TFL3D tasks and who knows how this thing will be
this works great with the manila2D with the touch. One question though. The script kills the manila2D very quickly, but it does take several seconds for it to run it; any way of speeding that up?
thanks for the script
work very well
thanks for the script. great work
As Leekg has mentioned you can use TF3D and SPB Shell together.
I have left TF3D as it is and installed the SPB Shell as well. On the home screen have reprogrammed one of the Soft keys to SPB Menu -- touching that takes me to the Shell. Closing it brings me back to TF3D!
I do have a question though -- is there any way of changing the default msic player to windows media?
I don't know what is this happen! I already install 'Diamond TF3D Config Setup V0.67 & Schaps Advanced Config with Boinger66.
After change setting with advanced config click 'save'. After diamond auto reboot, the color of softkey bar will change from 'black' to 'gray'!
I'm using new rom of RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_CHT_1.93.832.2. Version is 5.2.19965 (build 19965.1.2.3)
Anyone can help me? It's always ouccr! Even I hard reset re-install again! My last installation without 'advanced config'
Same thing happens to me with original ROM. It happens after I use the theme feature
are you install mapking ?
Solved the problem but do not know what other effect done to my Touch Pro.
Go to Startup folder in Windows and delete PKG.lnk
Hello.
I got this problem recently and searched for the solution for weeks.. what i did to remedy this was:-
1)Install Dinarsoft Memmaid (u can use any other windows startup manager)
2)In the startup manager, i disabled all items that can be disabled.
3)Soft reset phone.
after the soft reset, i got back my flat black soft key bar. I now have only the things i needed to startup windows, and leave the others disabled. You can try enabling each item 1 by 1 and soft reset, to determine which item is the culprit that is causing this symptom.
I hope this helps someone.
I recently bought TD2, and is by no means a big fan of the new startmenu. How is it possible to replace it with the "old" one ?
I've been searching the forum, since I've heard of a little program that can fix this issue, but without luck .
Thanks in advance !
The new start menu comes as part of Touch Flo 3D.....If you distable TF3D in settings\personal\today\items, you get the old menu system.
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
HandySpanner said:
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
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There are two great lacks in the new menu :
1. too few items available in the 'icons' start page, and no kind of sub-folders or program groups.
then
2. if you go in the full list because your program is not in the icons page, the list can be long and fastidious.
Hope it will be corrected in next version and be available for D2, or windows 6.5 titanium/CHome will replace TF3D
Try TF3D2 Tweak in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502102
Thank you all, for your replies .
If you just want to change the start menu but leave Manila turned on, just change the following in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\Enable ManilaStartMenu =dword:00000000
After a restart you have the old start menu
Is it possiple too keep both ways?
I mean when you press the start menu on the top of the screen to have the old start menu and when you press the windows hard key to have the new one?
I think this would be more usefull for many people who like the new menu but want some features of the old one!
kitarolivier said:
There are two great lacks in the new menu :
1. too few items available in the 'icons' start page, and no kind of sub-folders or program groups.
2. if you go in the full list because your program is not in the icons page, the list can be long and fastidious.
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Ah right, I see. I've not hit that issue, I guess I just don't use that many programs!
One question: how can I enable the old style like in WM 6.1.
I use 6.5 without Manilla (UDK R1.)
It's annoying to select start/settings/connections if you want to set more the 1 thing...bluetooth, WIFI etc....also for programs.
Or how can I customize the start menu in 6.5 ...order, content...
another way
This would keep the new start menu when you tap on "start" and make pop-up a replica similar whith the old one when you tap on windows or whatever icon you have on the upper left corner of the screen near the text "start". I didn't make this just downloaded from somewhere.
cliviu said:
This would keep the new start menu when you tap on "start" and make pop-up a replica similar whith the old one when you tap on windows or whatever icon you have on the upper left corner of the screen near the text "start". I didn't make this just downloaded from somewhere.
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Doesn't seem to work on my Diamond2. (Does nothing)
I was wondering if someone could do a buttom like the settings buttom in the new start menu that could open the old programs menu.
I think this shouldn't be so difficult, since there is a similar buttom for the settings.
Welcome here Liviu. (Bine ai venit pe aici, marfa site-u pt HTC-uri)
I try it Quick Menu, it's like Windows PC START menu and it's hard to use with a finger
I speak about the old menu from WM6.1 not Pc windows...
Ksara it's works on TD2 I try it and work well but it's not what I want.
You are right Pauln, it's not finger friendly but hei! that stylus is there so ...
Anyway for me it does the job so here is a pic for those who want an alternative. The icon "Quick menu" you will find also in Programs.
HandySpanner said:
I'm amazed that anyone would prefer the old WM one.
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I'm one of them. I disabled touchflo and installed spb pocket plus: I've got everything in sight, with no need to flip over strange desktops and icons!
I found these registry entries somewhere else and i thing these are the key to make a shortcut in manila programs folder to the old Programs folder Just like there is for the settings folder (number 3)
"Remove the locked program tab items
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/0/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/1/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/2/IsReadOnly
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/ProgramLauncher/3/IsReadOnly
Change this value from 1 to a 0 and you can then edit their shortcuts."
Please someone who is familiar with this , create a shortcut.
gogan said:
I'm one of them. I disabled touchflo and installed spb pocket plus: I've got everything in sight, with no need to flip over strange desktops and icons!
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But what is the way to do it, because I don't want to install some software that almost does the same. I want it the old way.
Please help.
Touch X INFINITY
SCREENS WILL COME LATER..
But if anyone out there who like my work could find it in there heart to make a small donation i would be forever greatful!
Support ME (Smaberg) to buy a New X1, so i can continue develop ROMs for the X1 CLICK HERE
Touch X INFINITY 2.0B ULTIMATE X-TREME _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Go here to download latest build
new in 2.0
many, many and many small fixes
added new internet explorer (request)
added new Drivers to fix lag (i hope my testers where right and theese work), there will come a cab with old drivers if this aint working.
added the custon notification manager (request)
and some more i won't tell
NEW in 2.0B
New agps app.
Totaly new drivers
New build
and many files changed
Fix for manila tabs in Touch X INFINITY 1.2 - View attachment manila_tabs_fix.cab
Go here to see an optional "start menu", this one is great...
http://www.panoramicsoft.com/mobileapps/launchpad/LaunchPad.php
ten charaters needed agian
Thankyou
Thank you!
Will give it a spin as soon as possible!
downloading now
will flash in a bit
am using this now. havent tested much but i noticed when it boots theres a mortscript error msg. something to do with titanium plugins?
and i like the wm6.5 start menu icons but the scrolling can be smoother.
photo swiping under photos and videos tab is laggy.
after disconnecting from pc, the two touch options on the bottom is stuck on all the tabs.
on the left is All Programs and right is Remove. they dont change according to the tab. i hv to restart TF3D to get it back to normal.
What's new about this ROM? Any improvements?
flashing it at the moment. i am so bored i need to play with my x1.
I tested Windows Media player with some clips created with Super and the video rendering sometimes slows to quickly catch up. This didn't happen in the previous version.
I've heard about tools for speeding up access to the memory card. Maybe that helps.
Also the soft keys gets stick to "all programs" and "remove" after you change from the programs tab
Other than that.. omg fast ROM
... testing further after reflashing ....
The first time I selected "Settings" I could see the soft button "All Settings", but when I selected it, I ended in the Communication Settings menu, repeatedly.
Back at the Home menu, I tried Settings again, but this time it only shows "All Programs" soft button. Clicking on it generates no action. I can't find a way to go to All Settings.
sinchi said:
... testing further after reflashing ....
The first time I selected "Settings" I could see the soft button "All Settings", but when I selected it, I ended in the Communication Settings menu, repeatedly.
Back at the Home menu, I tried Settings again, but this time it only shows "All Programs" soft button. Clicking on it generates no action. I can't find a way to go to All Settings.
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similar bug to what i reported, seems to occur on all tabs, but most reproducible on program tab for me.
I noticed in the first version some bugs:
1. when you open most apps like message, opera, contacts and etc, when you press the upper left portion (inbox, url adress, search contact) it takes you to the app shortcuts/home of wm 6.5
2. camera button does not work
3. the lower left shortcut(all programs) on standby mode does not work and does not change when you switch between Touch flow apps like messaging, email, fave people, etc.
Overall awesome ROM as always
pacm23 said:
I noticed in the first version some bugs:
1. when you open most apps like message, opera, contacts and etc, when you press the upper left portion (inbox, url adress, search contact) it takes you to the app shortcuts/home of wm 6.5
2. camera button does not work
3. the lower left shortcut(all programs) on standby mode does not work and does not change when you switch between Touch flow apps like messaging, email, fave people, etc.
Overall awesome ROM as always
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The camera hard button works for me. Once to activate the camera and once to take a picture.
... more testing ...
I installed latest Skype and it worked almost fine calling to a normal phone, except that when the screen goes black (for energy saving) the conversation was interrupted.
I had to press the power button to resume. After that, I had to keep touching the screen to keep the conversation alive.
sinchi said:
... more testing ...
I installed latest Skype and it worked almost fine calling to a normal phone, except that when the screen goes black (for energy saving) the conversation was interrupted.
I had to press the power button to resume. After that, I had to keep touching the screen to keep the conversation alive.
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You can disable that feature in the WinMo Setting, isn't it?
Or delay the time before it will go in Standby
What's the difference between 1.2 & 1.1?
New drivers/tweak improvements or bugfixes?
Anyway it definitly looks promising ;-)
Keep up the good work, Smaberg
i stick to ur roms..i flash this one immidiately now..
yep fast and awesomely done. bravo!
i have wait looooooog time!thank you smaberg
WinStart V2.4
Features
Task manager (close/view background apps)
Icon's image and name can be changed
Icons can be moved
Background image can be easily changed
Text color of icon can be changed
Lock feature
Quick list of recent programs
Possibility to order icons by name and type
Icon's name can be hidden
What's new?
WinStart can be assigned to any key
Long press on top icons are now working
Square background image possibility
New animation
Possibility to disable the background image (for old devices, the speed gain is real)
Scrolling function rewrited (I hope you will tell me if it's better or worse!)
Various bugs fixed (folder with dots are correctly printed, quick links and background windows are now correctly handled, landscape correctly handled, no more gap between icons...)
Download explications
Please go to my website !
Cant open file
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
You're right, wrong cab...
I edited the first post, you should be able to test now !
Performance on Rhodium
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I am using the full version now, which shas an option to disable the original start menu, which saves alot of memory.
Performance is great on the Rhodium
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I wanted to try it on the Tilt 2, because it is a memory starved device.
There is no memory advantage to using this over the normal start menu.
It looks nice, and the recent program list is great.
But for the Rhhodium, memory is critical, so I will go back to using the Panel Stat menu cooked into Energy ROMs.
It would be nice if the free version would have had the graphic transitions when opening folders. It looked cool on the demo that was done on an HD2, but, other devices, such as my Tilt 2 or my Fuze, are slower.
I would want to see that performance before purchasing. If I could see that I would consider purchasing it for my Fuze.
But, as far as the memory usage. I can't use it with my Tilt 2. It consumes more memory than having the original start menu.
The full version can disable the original start menu, so you can spare approx 30 Mo in RAM.
The demo was done on an HD (older than Tilt2) and no problems. I think it will be smooth for both (Tilt2 and Fuze), but I'm not sure of that!
I can't create a demo version with graphic transitions, too much work...
As you are a "productive and contributing member", I can give you a serial... Send me a PM if you are interested!
petititi said:
The full version can disable the original start menu, so you can spare approx 30 Mo in RAM.
The demo was done on an HD (older than Tilt2) and no problems. I think it will be smooth for both (Tilt2 and Fuze), but I'm not sure of that!
I can't create a demo version with graphic transitions, too much work...
As you are a "productive and contributing member", I can give you a serial... Send me a PM if you are interested!
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Thanks.
While testing the full paid version, I am very impressed.
I have more memory available than before, when I was using the Panel Start menu available in Energy Roms.
This start menu is great.
Starts faster.
More responsive.
Better transitioning graphics.
Graphics are very smooth on my Tilt 2.
And the most recent program feature is really nice to have.
This is definitely worth the money.
Thanks for this feedback
WinStart with CHT Softkeys
First of all very nice!!
I purchased the full version at your referenced site.
I am having a problem. I use CHT 2.0 on my NRGZ28 ROM, and I use the CHT Softkeys. I cannot get WinStart to pull up the start menu using the "StartMenu" CHT softkey. If I disable the CHT softkeys, the the normal StartMenu icon works fine.
Within CHT SoftKeys, there are ways to set key assignments:
"Run path" which prompts me to enter an application to run. WinStart is not a listed application.
"Command Line" which prompts me to "enter command line parameters". I don't know what to do here?
Is there a way you can get this to work with the CHT SoftKeys?
I have CHT2.0 too, but I never used the SoftKeys...
I take a look and come back to tell you how do this.
WinStart with XDA_UC
Thank you...while waiting...I'll ask another question.
I flash ROM's a lot when new versions come out. I use XDA_UC to install my various apps that I use. WinStart will DEFINITELY be one.
My question: On a fresh install with a new ROM, is there a registry key or something that I should install along with the cab to get the initial "fresh-install" parameters - username/password information - automatically applied?
OK, so it's not as easy as I thought... I try something but it work only the first time... What I do :
In HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila
>Set CHT.Softkeys.KeyCustom1.Path to: \Program Files\winstart\winstart.exe (no quotes or anything else)
In CHT editor, set icon1 to custom1... But as said before this will work only the first time.
I work on this and in a few days (I hope 24h), I will post a new version.
For the second question, you will have to save these two values :
HKLM/Software/Manila_WinStart/licenceKey and HKLM/Software/Manila_WinStart/password.
You can also export the entire HKLM/Software/Manila_WinStart/ key to save your settings too... If this is not an option for you, tell me via PM, I will send you a patcher...
Winstart / Softkeys
petititi said:
OK, so it's not as easy as I thought... I try something but it work only the first time... What I do :
In HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila
>Set CHT.Softkeys.KeyCustom1.Path to: \Program Files\winstart\winstart.exe (no quotes or anything else)
In CHT editor, set icon1 to custom1... But as said before this will work only the first time.
I work on this and in a few days (I hope 24h), I will post a new version.
For the second question, you will have to save these two values :
HKLM/Software/Manila_WinStart/licenceKey and HKLM/Software/Manila_WinStart/password.
You can also export the entire HKLM/Software/Manila_WinStart/ key to save your settings too... If this is not an option for you, tell me via PM, I will send you a patcher...
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Hello - I appear to have the same issue as WMG316. After installation and reboot. I can go to \Program Files\WinStart\ and run ConfigWinstart.exe. I select DEBUG, Stop Service, and then Start Service, Back, Save. At this point the Hard and Softkeys work properly until the next reboot. I have not put any WinStart in my Startup folder.
I hope this helps get closer to a long-term solution. I really like this app and it is still worth the money.
petititi said:
OK, so it's not as easy as I thought... I try something but it work only the first time... What I do :
In HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila
>Set CHT.Softkeys.KeyCustom1.Path to: \Program Files\winstart\winstart.exe (no quotes or anything else)
In CHT editor, set icon1 to custom1... But as said before this will work only the first time.
I work on this and in a few days (I hope 24h), I will post a new version.
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Thanks...I had tried that and came to same conclusion...only works on the first try!
Hopefully you'll get that worked out so CHT SoftKeys can be used!!
I look forward to the update.
How to Backup "Renamed Icons"
Another question. I have renamed a few of the icons in the start menu. I cannot locate where these changes are saved. Is there a way to backup these settings for subsequent ROM flashes?
wmg316, you can export registry key HKLM-Security-Shell-Startinfo-Start , which contains data about all links: their position, icon, name & visibility..
Start Menu Hardware Key on Rhodium
Maybe a bug?
Since disabling the CHT SoftKeys I have had no problem initiating the Start Menu with the default soft key. I am still in hopes that you will fix that issue though!
My problem...when I try to use the hardware key start menu on the Tilt 2 (Rhodium) it does not work.
I can get it to work by following these steps:
Use Start Menu soft key to go to Start Menu
Select Menu, Options
At this point the option to "Hook the windows hardware key" is checked...I uncheck this...then check it again and select save
After this process, the hardware key works.
After a soft reset, the hardware key does not work and I have to go through the aforementioned steps to get it to work again.
Yes,I think this problem is the same as CHT softkey (they emulate an hardware keydown).
So I think in a few hours these two bugs will be corrected !
The problem is now solved...
I work on an option to save/restore the settings so I will change the version number of first post when finished.
For now you can install the attached file which correct the bug but don't include the option to save/restore settings...
petititi said:
The problem is now solved...
I work on an option to save/restore the settings so I will change the version number of first post when finished.
For now you can install the attached file which correct the bug but don't include the option to save/restore settings...
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Confirmed to work:
I uninstalled v2.1 and soft reset
I installed v2.2
Turned on CHT Softkeys
Tested CHT Softkey start menu - worked
Tested hardware key start menu - worked
Soft reset
Tested CHT Softkey and hardware start menus again - worked
Thank you!!
You guys work fast! The issue with the hardware and CHT Softbar starting was my only real issue with this. I bought the paid version and love it. Thank you.
The only other minor cosmetic thing I have noticed is that when you first open the program, it leaves some odd artifacts on the screen as you run it the first time. For example, after a soft reset, the first time I open the menu, I can't see my task bar on top, I see a part of my CHT hometab. Once I close it, it works great for all other openings.
Also, when you click on a program, the animation works fines to zoom the icon at me, but once it is done, the screen briefly jumps back to the start menu background showing me just the icon I clicked on until the program actually opens.
Like I said, purely cosmetic, but I figured I would mention them. Again, thanks a ton for the program, it is by far and away the best start menu I have tried. Light years ahead of even the default WM one.