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Hi iv read a bit about the TyTN2 not having d3d support. And that video etc is lacking from this. But does this make the TyTN better? Or does it have the same problems.
Im just about to order The TYTN2 but i dont want to get a phone that is slower than the one i already have?
Any thoughts?
The original TyTN plays videos better for me using TCPMP. But then again, I haven't done any controlled tests on it, software setup isn't exactly the same, yada yada yada. Still, I really wouldn't recommend the Kaiser. Even if it is faster (which I don't find it to be) it would be so marginal as to not be worth the money.
Is this everybodys opinion?
This is my understanding of the situation. The CPU in these 2 devices is not the same. The original TyTN had no 3D processing hardware. The TyTN II does have 3D processing hardware in the Qualcomm CPU. However it has no drivers for it, so it ends up being software rendered. That maybe also apply to direct draw for 2D video processing.
so at least that means that it eaqualy fast/slow? and that we have the hope that a d3d driver is released?
I'd never buy something with the HOPE that it will get better. You shouldn't base your decision on that. HTC has pretty much stated they have no intentions of providing a solution. Our only hope is that we can put enough pressure on them to make them see things differently. But again, I wouldn't bet on it.
If drivers do come out for it, then the Kaiser will still be there for you to buy later. If they don't, then you haven't wasted your money. What's the rush?
I agree with Blowfish64 and I wish I could go back in time and follow his recommendation a month ago when I bought my TyTN II. My hope right now is that I can trade it or a JASJAM with minimal loss
Im getting the phone for free. Have the TyTN now and am quite happy with it. So if the extra memory is of any help i think ill go for it if it is true that is just as fast as the TyTN
That depends on what you use the phone for. Have you had memory problems? If you're a gamer or play lots of videos then I recommend that you cool it for a while, while praying that HTC come to their senses and release ROM updates enabling the 3D and multimedia acceleration that the TyTN II is capable of.
Is there no other Windows Mobile PDA with the same Qualcom Chip? No chance of copying only the drivers to the TYTN2?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Kaiser was the first one with the MSM 7200 processor so it would have the best chance to receive a ROM update soon.
Well if you're getting it for free, why even ask? Unless you're talking about a trade in. But actually, I just ran a couple of tests with a friend's 8525, and using tcpmp to access the Imageon acceleration of that phone, it definitely plays video way better than the Tilt. If you're running out of memory constantly on your 8525, get the Tilt. If you're looking for performance, stay away. That's all I can tell you.
I can get witch ever phone i like for free. 1 per year. Well if i like the TyTN but would like a faster phone.. with qwerty what would you recomend?
(sure hope its not to late to cancel the order )
Check this thread for a fair review:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347152
As for what you're looking for, there really isn't one. That's the problem. After a few years on the market, the TyTN is still the fastest slide out qwerty around. The eTen m800 will be coming out soon with a faster processor and a VGA display, but I've heard their quality has problems as well.
Guys,
How would you c ompare the Artimis with TyTN2?
Thanks.
Blowfish64 said:
Check this thread for a fair review:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347152
As for what you're looking for, there really isn't one. That's the problem. After a few years on the market, the TyTN is still the fastest slide out qwerty around. The eTen m800 will be coming out soon with a faster processor and a VGA display, but I've heard their quality has problems as well.
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Yes, the M800 may be a good device, but with a VGA display, I hope there will be a 2D/3D accelerator inside, or it may be slow. I had a X50v with its onboard 2700G accelerator, and the VGA display was very fast. But I also had a HTC Universal, with no hardware acceleration, in this case the VGA display was not fast enough for graphical applications (videos, etc... just like our Kaiser wich only give us QVGA for the same speed than the Universal !).
People,
Posted here as I think a lot of the Kaiser community has "upgraded" to the new Diamond.....as I am thinking of doing!
Looking for comments from real users of both devices as to pros and cons of the Diamond over the Kaiser....would you do it again if given the option??
Thanks in advance......
well, i am one of the comunity used Kaiser for long time, never let me down, perfect keyboard.. and now here is Diamond... ) if i compare the both devices, Diamond is the KING now in my eyes, only thing i really missing is the keyboard, but now you don't be afraid put the diamond in to the pocket, because is perfect thin.. and the weight is absolutely perfect, i can't even feel the diamond in my pocket )) the processor is ok, fast, TFL3d is nice, for TOMTOM perfect VGA display, well be honest, if you want new, modern device, with better VGA display, better processor, thin and light devices although without the keyboard, go for it.. that's my opinion.and if u want using this device for SatNav, few documents the 4GIG of storage is enough... ( tomtom, maps UK+IRL and Western europe, few documents, few cabs and still i have about 2GIG free )
sorry for my english
Thanks for the reply...sounds like your pretty happy with the investment.....is the speed genuinely better than the Kaiser?
Happy now
But what's about the battery?
The Kaiser has the better battery life, the keyboard (which I don't miss to be honest) and the sd card slot (which I also don't miss as I only ever had 1 4 Gb card anyway!),
Diamond is more useable I don't get the stylus out much), easier to carry and IMHO looks much bettter.
Look into my signature... Diamond Touch Pro is still missing to have a 3 in a row. The Diamond touch will not belong in ther list for long
I don't use my TYTN II currently, but hell, how many times I told myself if the TytnII could be put in the Diamond Boddy...
Guess it explains enough. My Diamond will not to be kept for a long time , despite the 750 US $ investment.
Hey guys.
At the moment I've got a HTC Elf. Its an ok phone but i want to go onto a price plan with a network and get a brand new phone along with it. So im now torn between the Diamond and the N95, both great smartphones but I need help! Which one is "better"? Im not too bothered about size (within reason) its more about the features and reliability that im looking for.
Also im moving to Australia in around 12 months time with my girlfriend so preferably I would want one that will work on the networks out there and is fairly easily SIM unlocked.
Any ideas??
All comments appreciated!
Thanks!
HTC Diamond of course .I had the N95 8Gb and didn't impress me much.Look at the specs and you'll see why is better the diamond.If you wait 1 month you can buy yourself the perfect phone ,Htc Pro.
Unlocking for the Diamond is free and you can do it in your home.
i too have had an n95(not 8gb). in reality the n95 camera is better then the diamond..... but i wouldnt count diamonds camera out.... it is just as goood as the n95's 5mpx... mpx doesnt always matter
howzatcookie said:
Hey guys.
At the moment I've got a HTC Elf. Its an ok phone but i want to go onto a price plan with a network and get a brand new phone along with it. So im now torn between the Diamond and the N95, both great smartphones but I need help! Which one is "better"? Im not too bothered about size (within reason) its more about the features and reliability that im looking for.
Also im moving to Australia in around 12 months time with my girlfriend so preferably I would want one that will work on the networks out there and is fairly easily SIM unlocked.
Any ideas??
All comments appreciated!
Thanks!
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Difficult decision: regarding photo/video quality, the N95 8GB beats the HTC Diamond EASILY, no comparison possible since the N95 8GB plays in a different league.
Then, the differences start: if you have lots of WM programs you still want to use, go for the HTC Diamond. Otherwise, the N95 8GB also allows installing third party programs, unfortunately most of these(commercial) programs are IMEI "locked", so if you exchange your N95 8GB phone with a different Symbian phone, you usually can't immediately use these programs anymore with the new device.
Video playback capability is also much better with the N95 8GB, the Diamond still has issues I'm afraid.
The decision isn't easy but if you're using the phone mainly for your enjoyment and entertainment, I guess the N95 8GB is the better choice in my opinion.
The Diamond has a better support for exchange servers, etc.
I have just switched from the N95 to the HTC Diamond and don't regret it.
Previously I used the XDAII and XDA Exec when they were released and loved the Windows Mobile experiance and big touch screens. I then switched to Nokia for a bit and tried the N73 then the N95 and I have decided I really don't like the Symbian OS and really missed the Windows Mobile software and apps.
Browsing on the HTC Diamond is a dream! The resolution of the screen means web pages look ace and easy to read. It is easy to zoom in and out with the scroll wheel and navigating the pages with a flick of a finger seems so natural.
The ONLY thing I miss about my N95 is that the Diamond doesn't have audio controls on the headset so you have to change the tracks manually on the phone. Although there is software that with the press of a button you can tell the phone to skip to the next track so I just need to get back into that again.
The only downside I have to the Diamond so far is the lack of expandable memory slot. A 4GB memory stick was enough on my N95 but with so much you can do with Windows Mobile phones it isn't enough for me on the Diamond. I will learn to live with it though.
My only other option before I got the Diamond was the Samsung I900 but although it has a bigger screen, it's lower resolution and the I900 doesn't have a scroll wheel so navigating web pages won't feel as enjoyable and easy. THe plus with the I900 though is 8GB or 16GB internal memory AND an expansion slot.
Sorry for the waffle - Final verdict for me is Diamond all the way. Especially with a community like this available.
Trem
I came from N95 8 gig to diamond. mate go fot it.
The Diamond is simply in a different league altogether.
I have them both. Use the Diamond for fun, experimenting and the N95 8GB for when I need a stable device, which can do almost everything and do itquite well. To me the 8GB is the best device, but it's a bit too large.
I am planning on getting rid of one of them within the next few weeks, but right now I am not sure which...
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I have them both. Use the Diamond for fun, experimenting and the N95 8GB for when I need a stable device, which can do almost everything and do itquite well. To me the 8GB is the best device, but it's a bit too large.
I am planning on getting rid of one of them within the next few weeks, but right now I am not sure which...
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Yeah, I mean thats what its boiled down to for me at the moment. I love the sleekness of the Diamond and the new TouchFlo 3D stuff with the accelerometer.
However, I followed the Diamond closely ever since it was announced and to be honest I've heard such a range of comments about it and some of the bad stuff said about it gets me worried to some degree. For example I've read alot about the interface being "sluggish" and "un-responsive" and to be honest that ruins the touchscreen feature for me. Although many people say that the reason for the slow speed on some devices is because the people using them are not using them correctly.
As for the N95....I havn't really heard a bad note about it apart from the obvious complaint of its chunkiness and the fact that there isn't a cover for the camera. I also found out that the N95 does actually have a built in accelerometer that was apparently hidden by Nokia. So, to be honest my hand is slowly creeping over to the N95 at the moment for the following reasons:
- 5mp camera (that I've been told is alot more reliable and has more effects)
- 8GB of storage (probably alot more than I will use, but atleast its there if i do need it)
- Quad Band (to be honest I think you only need a Tri Band phone to work in Australia, but its likely I will be doing more travelling)
- Slide out Keypad (I dont dislike the touch keypad on my elf, but I guess I would be able to type quicker with more feedback)
- Chunk (I'll be honest, I'm a clumsy Oaf when it comes to holding anything electrical and small, and I have a bad feeling that perhaps Me and that glossy, shiny finish on the Diamond might not get on well)
- Nokia (frome experience with Nokias you can generally get signal anywhere....however I have yet to find an area where my elf doesnt have signal)
I dont want anyone to think that im casting out the idea of buying the Diamond....trust me im not!
Ahhh God this is gonna take me a while to figure out!
Thanks for your comments so far though guys! (sorry for the long reply here!)
If you want to use phone also for music/radio, then N95 is for you. Diamond as mp3 player is abysmal ( sound quality sucks really hard ), but on other tasks it is better ( except camera ).
8GB of storage really isn't too much, 4GB is too little. I don't trust one single GPS app 100% so I always keep a backup program ready (TT7 + iGO8). 2 x map of europe = most of the 4GB storage is gone. Add a bit of music and that's it.
The 8GB storage on the N95 is nice, but sloooow. Such a relief to be working on the Diamond now, it is much faster.
MP3 on the Diamond has another problem: standby time. It drains the battery almost as fast as movie playback on the N95 8GB. Listen to one hour of music and the battery is almost guaranteed to be dead before you go to bed. HTC really need to take this seriously and do some ROM tweaking to save power, just as Nokia did on the N95.
But the size of the Diamond... If they were the same size, the choice would be easy for me - dump the Diamond. But this is where the Diamond really stands out. Just slide it into your pocket and forget it. No way you can do that with a N95 8GB.
The N95 (8GB) has been on the market for 18 months or so. So many updates, so much better a device now than when it first appeared. The Diamond is still only about one month old. Much can happen during the next few months, especially when it is backed up by a site as great as this. Xda developer is as good a 'feature' as any
I totally know where your all coming from. I guess its so hard to choose between the two because they are so different.
If all the functionality and features of the N95 could be squeezed into the Diamond with TouchFlo 3D over the top, I think we'd have the perfect phone that could shove the iPhone's head up its own ass where it belongs. (no offence to anyone with an iPhone).
However this isn't the case, so I guess were stuck for the moment. I really wanted to make this decision this weekend so I can buy my phone next week, im not sure thats gonna happen now .
I shall Ponder!!
Ok guys so...I had a think about this and while doing some other shopping today I popped into my local T-Mobile shop and got myself a brand new N95 8GB on a £30 price plan.
Now I know some of you...if not all...may be slightly confused with my decision; Why go for a chunky Nokia thats been out for 18 months over a sleek, sexy, new HTC Diamond?
Well to be honest, I did alot of research (in place of Work that I really should have been doing!) and I went around and got some brief hands on use of both handsets, asked friends who have either phone and just found out as much info as I could.
When I got hold of the Diamond for the second time, I was still impressed. It is a fantastic device, end of! But my hand felt empty....a strange use of words but thats how I felt...I couldnt get a half decent grip on the phone either, probably because of its sexy gloss finish.
When I held the N95 8GB (also for the second time) I was overwhelmed, first by its size, and then by just how much it can do. My hand was full, but comfortably. The weight and really stable slider reassured me as I played around with the different stuff available. After playing around for about 20 minutes the sales advisor showed me the quick program menu and told me about the "blue light" at the corner of each program icon that tells you that the program was running....every program had this light (because I used everyone) I was amazed to say the least especially after owning the Elf where you only have to open internet explorer for the phone to begin twitching.
I have to admit that I miss the touch screen a little bit...just being able to physically touch the icon you want is quite satisfying, but (from my experience) slow. On the N95 I fly through different menus in seconds.
Im sorry to be a slight dissapointment to anyone who was certain that I must get the Diamond, but I decided that speed and reliability is what I really want over style and functionality.
I know you guys know your stuff and I will have no shame in reporting any problems I have with the N95 so you can all give a huge "told you so", however I really doubt that situation will ever happen, this phone does basically everything....and does it well!
Ok guys so...I had a think about this and while doing some other shopping today I popped into my local T-Mobile shop and got myself a brand new N95 8GB on a £30 price plan.
Now I know some of you...if not all...may be slightly confused with my decision; Why go for a chunky Nokia thats been out for 18 months over a sleek, sexy, new HTC Diamond?
Well to be honest, I did alot of research (in place of Work that I really should have been doing!) and I went around and got some brief hands on use of both handsets, asked friends who have either phone and just found out as much info as I could.
When I got hold of the Diamond for the second time, I was still impressed. It is a fantastic device, end of! But my hand felt empty....a strange use of words but thats how I felt...I couldnt get a half decent grip on the phone either, probably because of its sexy gloss finish.
When I held the N95 8GB (also for the second time) I was overwhelmed, first by its size, and then by just how much it can do. My hand was full, but comfortably. The weight and really stable slider reassured me as I played around with the different stuff available. After playing around for about 20 minutes the sales advisor showed me the quick program menu and told me about the "blue light" at the corner of each program icon that tells you that the program was running....every program had this light (because I used everyone) I was amazed to say the least especially after owning the Elf where you only have to open internet explorer for the phone to begin twitching.
I have to admit that I miss the touch screen a little bit...just being able to physically touch the icon you want is quite satisfying, but (from my experience) slow. On the N95 I fly through different menus in seconds.
Im sorry to be a slight dissapointment to anyone who was certain that I must get the Diamond, but I decided that speed and reliability is what I really want over style and functionality.
I know you guys know your stuff and I will have no shame in reporting any problems I have with the N95 so you can all give a huge "told you so", however I really doubt that situation will ever happen, this phone does basically everything....and does it well!
I used to own a N95 as well.
I waited for it for months and months before it got released to get it.
for a month or two I worked overtime to be able to buy it as fast as possible.
Finally I had it.
AND I LOVED IT!
I felt the same as you. TONS of stuff it could do, the camera was soooo good. etc etc.
But the reality cought up on me 6 months later and the damn speakers began to get a distorted sound. I had it in for the same problem twice within the next 6 months, and on the third time they switched it ( even though I wanted my money back ) to a new device with a fresh warranty period.
It ran like a charm.
Two months after I got it....same problem. Speakers.
So I went down and started a war against the store I bought it from cause they didn't wanna pay me back.
But I won. Got my money and ran fast to the store on the otherside of the road to buy me an Diamond. And I do NOT regret it. Remember, I LOVED my B95. But even if the camera was a bit better and it played music a TAD better I still don't regret it.
I wanna give you a tip though. If you work or run around in areas with alot of dirt in the air. Like a workshop, put the damn thing in a plastic bag that you can seal, or you will most likely experience the same thing I have.
The hole in the "filter" infron of the side speakers are just to large and that allowes the speaker ( magnet ) to draw particles towards it.
But as far as I am concerned, I will probably never get a Nokia phone again.
Ever since they started with smartphones it has gone down hill imo. Even though N95 and N95 8gig sold pretty well.
Good luck with you new phone though. And Grats.
/Akezzon
May be N95 and Daimond might come close in some features. But what makes daimond to rock is the interface. Its much better than what N95 has to provide. and Ofcourse N95 does not have touch screen. and Daimonds hardware is of cutting edge technology and specs
howzatcookie said:
Yeah, I mean thats what its boiled down to for me at the moment. I love the sleekness of the Diamond and the new TouchFlo 3D stuff with the accelerometer.
However, I followed the Diamond closely ever since it was announced and to be honest I've heard such a range of comments about it and some of the bad stuff said about it gets me worried to some degree. For example I've read alot about the interface being "sluggish" and "un-responsive" and to be honest that ruins the touchscreen feature for me. Although many people say that the reason for the slow speed on some devices is because the people using them are not using them correctly.
As for the N95....I havn't really heard a bad note about it apart from the obvious complaint of its chunkiness and the fact that there isn't a cover for the camera. I also found out that the N95 does actually have a built in accelerometer that was apparently hidden by Nokia. So, to be honest my hand is slowly creeping over to the N95 at the moment for the following reasons:
- 5mp camera (that I've been told is alot more reliable and has more effects)
- 8GB of storage (probably alot more than I will use, but atleast its there if i do need it)
- Quad Band (to be honest I think you only need a Tri Band phone to work in Australia, but its likely I will be doing more travelling)
- Slide out Keypad (I dont dislike the touch keypad on my elf, but I guess I would be able to type quicker with more feedback)
- Chunk (I'll be honest, I'm a clumsy Oaf when it comes to holding anything electrical and small, and I have a bad feeling that perhaps Me and that glossy, shiny finish on the Diamond might not get on well)
- Nokia (frome experience with Nokias you can generally get signal anywhere....however I have yet to find an area where my elf doesnt have signal)
I dont want anyone to think that im casting out the idea of buying the Diamond....trust me im not!
Ahhh God this is gonna take me a while to figure out!
Thanks for your comments so far though guys! (sorry for the long reply here!)
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After the latest ROM update, i find my Diamond blazing fast, not unresponsive like when i first bought it
Also the diamond is now quad band, Htc magically pulled out the 850mhz band in the phone.
In case you didnt knew, the diamond also has a Tv-out! avaible with a special cable that is soon to come
My stephfather just went from N95 to the new iphone 3g, i told him to check out the diamond touch, but he didnt even take a look at it, guess who will be laughing when he gets the iphone^^
i had it for about a day and sold it on
teemupii said:
If you want to use phone also for music/radio, then N95 is for you. Diamond as mp3 player is abysmal ( sound quality sucks really hard ), but on other tasks it is better ( except camera ).
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Agreed. Also add the phone - it's, in general, better (and allows for call recording, which is, as usual, missing from the Diamond.)
That is, if you
- need a phone with call recording,
- need multimedia playback, particularly via the built-in speakers,
- CAMERA (which the Diamond really sucks at)
- need LOTS of storage (another no-go for the Diamond)
go for the N95.
(I'd advise againts the 8GB version. Get the "simple" N95 instead.)
Hi Guys,
Let me join in too. Yes, you might have guessed by now. I am also an ex-N95 user. The N95 is one of those phones that I will have a hard time forgetting. As a matter of fact, I sold my N95 to buy the Diamond. I did regret about it in the earlier days when I first got the Diamond. Common problems like system lags, bugs, hang ups, etc made me wanna sell off my Diamond buy back my N95. But flashing the Diamond to new ROMS (cooked of course), the performance of the Diamond improved 100% ! I am beginning to fall in love with my Diamond again.
Regarding howzatcookie's decision to buy the N95 8GB, I know you will regret. Not because you missed out on the Diamond. It's because you are missing out on a better phone, N96, which is due out worldwide in a couple of months time !
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Let me give you a different point of view:
- if you want to use the device more as computer then use HTC TD, else N95
Hi Guys
I'm thinking of upgrading my Polaris to a Diamond and just wondering if you guys are still happy with the Diamond and do ya think an upgrade from my Polaris is worth while.
The Diamond spec and looks seem brilliant but the only thing am a bit concerned about is the small 4gb memory it has, is this a problem or do you just learn to live with it.
Thanks
Tim
I never had a polaris, but this phone is brilliant, best phone available. IMO obviously. 4gb is LOTS of space. i have an ipod touch for all my music and video needs.
I am qualified to answer this one.... (hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while)
I've upgraded from an HTC P3600-> P3650->P3700. Each time the upgrade was better but I have to say when I upgraded to the Diamond, I love the phone but was sadly disappointed with it's speed.
Because of the processor, I thought I would get a faster phone.... it's terribly slow compared to the P3650.
In fact, I actually made a post this last Friday asking if there was any tweaking I could do to make it faster.
I ended up installing Duttythroy's new ROM and IT FLIES. All I can say is this phone now performs the way it should have from the factory.
I even did the #1 tweak on the top tweak list for the Diamond (a sticky) on top of his ROM and it seems even faster.
I hated clicking on the "people" tab and having to wait until my contact list would appear. I made that post Friday and if by tonight I hadn't been able to do something about it, I was going to put it on ebay and buy an iphone.
All I can say is I'm glad I installed the ROM. The memory usage is great, the 4g internal memory is plenty, the phone is slick and I really like it now.... by far the best phone I've owned.
You won't regret getting it.
Mark
PS. I sold my P3650 on ebay and got just shy of 500 bucks out of it.
I used the polaris for a short period and own quite a few WM smartphones over the last few years and I would definitely recommend the upgrade. Yes the tflo3d was somewhat sluggish before but now it's all changed. I am using bepes rom and it's as smooth as butter. The thing with diamond is, it keeps on getting better each day, thanks to xda dev and it's valuable contributers. As for the 4gb storage, I keep a lot of stuff in there (lots of apps, 100's of pics and mp3's and a few movies :s) and its only over half full.
Anyway find out all about the phone and decide if you want it or not. If possible try going to a store to test one out before you make up your mind. And oh yh, You will love the display, it's just too good.
Regards,
AF241
I don't even know what the Polaris is so can't say whether or not an upgrade is recommended but I came from the N95 and don't regret it a bit.
Some reasons to get a Diamond - High res screen perfect for browsing and films, a back button - very useful to backstep in any application, a Home button - Returns you to your Today screen instantly, a SCROLL WHEEL!!!! wow!!! zoom in and out of photos and web pages with ease and with reg files from here you can use it for your contacts and various other apps and the best thing about the Diamond... a great community here to help you with any issues and provide you with new apps/ROMS to try in the quest to find the best.
Yes... I've had my Diamond for 6 days now and it's the best Windows mobile phone I've had. Only downsides the good-looking but not customisable TF3D and the battery. However, with the extended one coming out (or out already?) it should be fine.
Go for it...
Thanks for the help guys I think am hooked now I just have to decide where to get one from.
T-Mobiles MDA Compact IV
O2 XDA Ignito (Out Soon)
Expansys HTC Diamond
Never bought a rebranded (MDA,XDA) PDA before so do you lose or gain anything with regards to hardware or software.
Software I’m not too bothered about as I’ll probably just upgrade my ROM from this forum anyway.
Thanks
Tim
Yes........
yes
you know it makes sence
Curious
I know that it's a bit off topic, but like the poster, I'm about to upgrade my phone.
And I've been using WM based devices for a looooong while, so I would like to keep using WM based phones.
Now apart from Diamond there are other phones out there with WM that came out recently.
Samsung Omnia i900
Toshiba Portege G810
Both use WM6.1 just like Diamond.
Now I don't know if there are any users here of the Samsung and Toshiba phones, but if there are...how would you compare Diamond with them?
Around threee months after the launch it still has many problems:
The interface is still slow.
The battery life is still poor.
The cover still collects fingerprints like a magnet.
The storage is still not upgradable.
... and it's still the BEST frikking phone on the market. If you're gonna upgrade, you really have no better choice.
Just a simple answer
Its the best upgrade
I tried to search but couldnt find anything in regards to this... maybe wrong forum...but my question is that since the Fuze has a fast processor and memory, is the Fuze better and more stable than the Tilt?
As anyone compared these two and how do you like it versus the Tilt?
i had the tilt for almost a year, then last week i bought the fuse, and now im gonna return the fuse. i actullly like the tilt better. i didnt notice any preformance difference going to the fuse. im not a fan of the touch flo software.
littleweber4 said:
i had the tilt for almost a year, then last week i bought the fuse, and now im gonna return the fuse. i actullly like the tilt better. i didnt notice any preformance difference going to the fuse. im not a fan of the touch flo software.
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Bingo, sold my Fuze. I love my Tilt, and with MD2 it's almost the same, and I found the Tilt more responsive. This is just me. I'm not downing the Fuze, I'm just more comfortable with My Baby da Tilt.
Beachboyde
I think it'll come down to a matter of preference. I got my Fuze about 5 days ago. After using it for 2 days I thought about returning it but kept it for the weekend. I got use to it. I really like the VGA screen and it's very responsive. Of course, my Tilt is also responsive and it did everything I needed. I'm going to keep the Fuze.
My recommendation: Get the Fuze, try it for the 30 day period, if you don't like it, return it. Simple.
There is a short video comparing the two.
i was wondering how the optical wheel works (dpad) im considering going over to the fuze but i use xbar and i need to scroll up and down along with right to left..will it work on the fuze?
oh btw how much did you get for it jon?
I've been using the tilt for a year and it works really great and I really like the phone, especially with all the different ROM you can flash to. I just got the fuze for a few days and it looks more elegant than the tilt. Love the vga screen, so much clearer. the touchflo3d is pretty cool, better than the touchflo2d I currently have on my tilt. One thing I really like about the tilt over the fuze are the hardware buttons. The tilt has alot more, especially the START and OK button.
I got the fuze only because I got a good deal for it, if not, I would keep my tilt.
You're right. The lack of hardware buttons on the Fuze is a real issue.
If you're used to programming keys, you'll hate the Fuze. The physical keyboard is also a lot smaller than the Tilt.
I think I'm returning my Fuze.
I had a Fuze for 2 days, then I canceled it and returned it.
I love the tilt way more. The Fuze is cool, because it's something new. I like the diamond back on it, but honestly the Tilt feels better. The touch screen on the Fuze is somewhat.. unresponsive at times.
The tilt, well it tilts. And believe it or not it is a really cool feature.
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The tilt, well it tilts. And believe it or not it is a really cool feature.
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Yes. Winner of thread. I hate how some people consider the Fuze an upgraded version of the Tilt when it scrapped one of the most uniquely fresh and useful feature of the phone.
I had the 8525 before the Tilt and I can't imagine going back to a Tilt-like phone without the tilting action.
I'm using the Tilt for a longtime and satisfied....but
So, if I try out the Fuze, what software issues will I run into with the most popular programs that I use
1. Pocket Informant
2. Spb Mobile Shell
3. what about Wisbar and PocketBreeze
I imagine utilities like backups, memmaid, and Resco products will work?
How about dictionaries, etc
Thanks!
I don't know too much about the technical details, but my experience is this:
Fuze pros:
- Faster
- VGA screen
- Back light that can be used as a flashlight.
- Touch screen FINALLY really reacts when you press on it with your finger.
On the Tilt you had to press really hard and sometimes it didn't work.
- Smaller
- Flat design so you can press easily on the borders.
Fuze cons:
- D-pad is crap. Useless
- Missing hw buttons.
- GPS lag and random disconnects (however I think this can be fixed with custom ROMs)
- Battery doesn't last long (same as before)
Overall I'm happy with my Fuze and I wouldn't get back to the Tilt!!
Hey Guys,
1 quick question. I love my tilt had it for a while and was thinking of getting the fuze but I am looking for a phone with these 2 main features the g-sensor and FM radio. are these availible on the fuze?
the fuze does come with g-sensor and fm radio, but radio needs the headset to be plug in as the antenna.
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the fuze does come with g-sensor and fm radio, but radio needs the headset to be plug in as the antenna.
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On quick one on the FM Radio. The hardware is there but no way to run it. You either have to use a cooked ROM or use the FM Radio cab.
Sorry to drudge up a 3-day old thread, but it was relevant to my question.
I've had an 8525 for a little for a year now, and it's starting to poop out on me. Occasionally the hardware buttons stop working, and while in use the screen with start to completely white out and takes a few minutes for it to come back (though it appears to work perfectly fine despite no usable screen, the touchscreen works).
Instead of attempting to fix it, I am considering upgrading. I have the option to get the Tilt for about 100 bucks, or the Fuze for about 370. I have drooled over the look of the Fuze ever since I read about the touch pro on the web this summer, but the tilt seems like a good phone as well (despite poor reviews). And lots of people seem to love their tilts.
Is the Fuze worth the extra money? I don't really like the Touchflo interface (i tried it on my 8525 for about a week and went back to my standard HTC Home screen). And the tilt seems like an upgrade from the 8525 in all accounts (i rarely watch videos and I don't take pictures with it that need a flash).
Thanks in advance,
-Zeke
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Sorry to drudge up a 3-day old thread, but it was relevant to my question.
I've had an 8525 for a little for a year now, and it's starting to poop out on me. Occasionally the hardware buttons stop working, and while in use the screen with start to completely white out and takes a few minutes for it to come back (though it appears to work perfectly fine despite no usable screen, the touchscreen works).
Instead of attempting to fix it, I am considering upgrading. I have the option to get the Tilt for about 100 bucks, or the Fuze for about 370. I have drooled over the look of the Fuze ever since I read about the touch pro on the web this summer, but the tilt seems like a good phone as well (despite poor reviews). And lots of people seem to love their tilts.
Is the Fuze worth the extra money? I don't really like the Touchflo interface (i tried it on my 8525 for about a week and went back to my standard HTC Home screen). And the tilt seems like an upgrade from the 8525 in all accounts (i rarely watch videos and I don't take pictures with it that need a flash).
Thanks in advance,
-Zeke
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Personally I think the tilt for $100 is a much better value. The Fuze does have a few upgrades over the tilt (VGA, FM Radio, little faster Processor, mor RAM & ROM Tilt sensor), but not enough to make me spend that much cash on it. The tilt can do just about anything the Fuze can for considerably less.
I REALLY wanted the Fuze when it first came out. But after playing with it in the store I realized I was perfectly happy with my Tilt and might just be better off saving my money and waiting for the next generation of HTC device's to come out next year. If the VGA screen and FM radio (but having to have the wired headset for it to work means I won't use it much) are a must have look hard at the Fuze, if not the Tilt will save you big bucks. If Money is no object, sure get the Fuze... Heck, get both. But Tilt and do all the same stuff.
Now having said that In Feb when my contract is up, I might give in and spring for a Fuze, aslong as closer to the $200 to $250 range. I can't help it I'm a gadget guy. Honestly I shouldn't though. Cash is tight and I'm better served waiting for a phone that will be a bigger leap forward.
I have a Tilt and I really wanted the Fuze to be awesome
wow.... i see there's alot of Fuze hating going on.... and alot of you guys are returning them too.... well, i picked up my Fuze about 2 weeks ago... kept it stock for about half a day before flashing NATF's ROM.... and so far i'm loving it... i guess alot of you are forgetting the crappy video drivers on the Tilt (by the way i also love my Tilt!!!.. despite the horrible video drivers)... the VGA on the Fuze is absolutely beautiful... even the poorest quality videos on Youtube Play look High-Res, Movies look stunning, and Camera is extremely nice... especially love the People, Photos, and Weather tabs alot more on TouchFlo 3D compared to 2D...
yes,...the overall speed needs improvement,... but that will change as better ROMs start coming out... and Skyfire needs to hurry up and make a release with High-Res.... but it give it time.... personally i don't think that 30 days is enough to play with the Fuze... it's still a relatively brand new phone.... eventually we'll start seeing some amazing applications and even better ROMs.... this phone has the pontential to be really great... it's every thing the Tilt is.... and sssoooo much more
Ok. So like most others in this thread I am debating between the ATT Tilt and Fuze. I believe the Tilt still has some power yet to be unlocked. HOWEVER! The camera is crappy compared to the 8525 that I had before. what were they thinking? How is the camera on the Fuze compared? I have a new baby girl and pictures are important to me now. Not to mention that fact that the Fuze has more speed (On paper at least) and twice the memory. I am just asking because I may be given the option to get a fuze with no money out of pocket. I too however have learned to love my tilt. It was an amazing phone if only it had all the proper drivers.