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Why does no one help newbies?

i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris

It might be the nature of the question or not enough info to allow someone to compose an answer without asking a question in response.
I'm hardly an old-timer around here and have found the site quite helpful and have gotten response to my questions.

its fairly easy to ask for more info tho? but it was just a question i wasnt getting on anyones back or that. i am a total newbie at these phones and need as much help as i can get to use it to its full potential
chris

I'm new here too. Asked a question, got an answer. Look at your question and two things trike me. Its a bit vague and its something I expect you could find out by searching these forums and the rest of the net.
I find that if you help yourself - by finding out as much as you can first, maybe trying a few things and having them fail - then people are far more willing to help you.

General rule of the board No.79231 - "Don't reply to anyone who spells theme incorrectly" ;-)
Seriously, it's probably because you asked a question that has been asked so many times that it is obvious you have not shown any effort by doing a search yourself.
Tip try a search for corporate AND install. I'm not sure if it is exactly the same method as on the Alpine and I'm not going to search for you I'm afraid.

yea i understand that guys, and i have searched and found a load of stuff just do not have a clue what to download theres that many.
oh an come on one typo :lol:
chris

So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
OK heres what you asked:
got my XDA yesterday an was told to wipe the o2 software an its speeds up the phone more, also looking for the XP theam for it. and how to update and install etc etc? first time av had a phone like th ...
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See first thing I noticed - everything you asked in this post can be found by just searching the forum. Themes [I assume you do mean themes] can be found by a simple google search. How to install on the XDA[is that a phone?] can be found in the users manual. Upgrading the ROM might be something you wanna come back to once you know your phone a little better. Live with it a little while...

dkb218 said:
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.

chris267 said:
dkb218 said:
So you started a post to ask how come no one answered your other post?
What's the question?
If you can't find the answer here, have you checked other forums?
Lotta people out there with answers...
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dont get ratty dude. i asked a question thats all. other guys have explaned and i understand i should hvae searched abit more etc etc.
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Me, Get ratty? Perish the thought. Me getting ratty would be like me saying something like, oh, I don't know - "Listen you little twit!!! Try the fricken search button!!!" But I didn't say that. I tried to offer you some help. Take it or leave it!!!

haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris

chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...

dkb218 said:
chris267 said:
haha i like your banter :wink:
i was refering to your first question.
my questions are:
1. how do i delete the o2 bumff of my mini s
2. what programs do i need to delete it?
3. how do i get a xp style theme?
4 and is there any other good apps out there for the mini s which might intrest me?
hows that? :lol:
chris
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Thats so much better....
1. I take it you mean the ROM. You don't wanna delete the OS. You wanna upgrade it. I use the MDA/Wizard so I'm not to sure about the upgrade for the mini but I'm sure someone has cooked one by know. Again. Just search for "Mini s Rom upgrade."
2. Once you find the upgrade, it'll tell you how to install it. Read that post carefully. No since bricken the thing.
3. Search for themes. I use www.pdagold.com and a few others.
4. No Chris, how would I know what would interest you? I mean I good but mind reading isn't something I've mastered just yet - close but still not 100%. PDA gold offers some freeware. Check them out...
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cheers dude al start searching for that stuff.
i threw that 4th question in for good luck lol, but i will check them out. thanks for your help and i will let you know how i get on
cheers
chris

chris267:
People do help newbies, and that's part of the job. I'm getting worried by the number of people saying that we don't help newbies. We were all one once, but for God, I suppose (I guess that's what he was doing for the first 5 days, blinging up his phone!)
Anyway, I don't know anything about the o2 stuff. I've got an o2 phone, but basically reset my phone before it installed anything from the extended rom. This basically means, extended slowness. You can then pick and choose what to install to customise your phone, resulting in a faster phone.
Theme and things: I suggest you have a look through this thread for ideas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44560&highlight=start
Many people recommend Wisbar, a customisation program to change the look of the phone. It's heavy, uses a lot of memory, but looks good.
Have a look through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=57926&highlight=software
There are many similar threads on the board, but my recommendations are, install SmallMenu, gsfinder, (and for me, VJOkButt). Anything else is cosmetic or optional, these 2/3 are essential.
V

1. to remove it try doing a hard reset, then boot up in coproate mode and enter 0506.Failing that to temporarily remove it go to start->settings->remove programs and remove O2ActiveUI. This will only make it go until your next hard reset. If you want to get rid of it another way try removing the file from the startup by: fileexplorer /windows/startup remove the program called o2 startup and do a soft reset.
2.no prgrams needed
3.you need to get wisbar advance forst, then get the xp theme on that and it should work
4. get a program called spb pocket plus, great little app and tcmp movie player too is good after that it's down to personal preference

Try www.freewareppc.com for lots of freeware.

hahaha
1. How to install Windows XP on my Wizard?
2. Where to download 3mpx patch for my camera?
3. And I need FM-radio patch too. May be it in AKU 3.5?
4. How to double screen resolution to 640x480?
5. And finally: how to install ASQ* Filter for this forum?
*ASQ = Another Stupid Question

chris267 said:
i posted something for help and never got a reply, also i have went back alot of pages and a lot of people who are new and posted for help have received none what so ever. why is that?
chris
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Sorry about your Feelings Chris.
I felt the same a few days back when I joined this forum.
But People who scorned at me were probably those who had never even heard about the forums I am Moderating on; (these forums have nothing to do with XDA developement however) But I can assure them that had they posted anything "seemingly stupid" on those forums I would have gladly helped them.
Vijay Was extremely helpful in explaining to me the way the world runs and the Way THIS forum Runs (excuse the caps).
He came to my rescue and set things right about it and I am glad that he is here as are some other members who have been very much helpful.
This forum is a Great place for newcomers as well as for experts.
At first if you dont understand things u might feel confused; but later on as you go thru the posts......things become clear.
At least they did for me.
I have read your posts and what you write was, what I felt just 2 weeks back when I joined, Only I took it all in my stride.
Chris maybe you had the guts to speak it out loud..
So in a way you are better that me Chris !!
Please keep on searching for your answers here on xda-dev and I am sure you shall go a long way.
In case there is ever anything I can do to help you out simply whisper...
(im me)
I have posted a reply to your queries for O2 default software removing and I have posted a few Today skins (XP type)
regards....and have fun with your New Set !!
The skins are availble here :arrow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=13780
jeasbe'
(Simply a newbie like you )

jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I? But sometimes, I think people forget that we're all people with brains and familes and feelings, not just meaningless posts on a forum.
So really, I mean it, if anyone gives anyone a hard time, PM me and I'll see if it's a legitimate complaint. If I can help, I'll probably end up answering a post at some point anyway, because I can't stop :shock:
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
V

vijay555 said:
jeasbe: I hope that you meant that sincerely, because I just read through my posts to you and I always sound like I'm a real idiot! I'm not generally such a d*ck, but I was relatively recently made a moderator, and my view is this:
I love this forum; I refresh all day, I wrote an RSS scraper for it, and post randomly all through the day. I try to keep the board as enjoyable for others as it is for me. I don't like slapping anyone down, because who am I?................
Again jeasbe, apologies for sounding curt with you before, but as you can see from the above thread, people were getting out of hand and that irritated me!
V
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THE GREATEST of all Men Underestimate themselves and Vijay is Far too Modest !!

dude its maybe a american thing i think.... i got treated the same on mp3car forum... and there mostly yanks too...
dont worry bout it....
i do kinda see ehere there comming from though.... I guess if u sit watching same forum all the time would start to annoy u that kept getting the same old questions asked...
I personaly got 2 replys... so did pretty well... although... still cant get rid of flipping message sent tone

HTC Diamond ROM

Hi Guys
i need your help i just bought an HTC Diamond yesterday and i am dissapointed, the device has a number of issues 1 is that the touch flo is not smooth and there is about 3 to 5 secs lag time, second is that the battery life is crap. anyways i read on the net that an updated ROM can fix these issues, the current ROM VERSION i am using is 1.35.456.3 WWE, please let me know if there are newer ROM versions and where i can download them,p.s. will ROM upgrade actually fix the battery life issues as well as memory leak. I really hope that the touch pro doesn't have all these issues.

This isn't the correct forum. If you had actually read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you might have noticed that one said SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST! So if you had done this, you would have found what you're looking for.
Normally, under these circumstances, I would direct you there, but seeing as it's called Diamond ROM Development, I'll let you find it yourself

you can find all your answers in my signature link

to answer your question without the entire search first part:
1. yes there is a newer one
2. look in the diamond development rom section

rorydaredkign said:
This isn't the correct forum. If you had actually read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you might have noticed that one said SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST! So if you had done this, you would have found what you're looking for.
Normally, under these circumstances, I would direct you there, but seeing as it's called Diamond ROM Development, I'll let you find it yourself
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Has it ever occured to you that one might be in a hurry to solve a big issue, if you can't help a new comer and direct them corrctly then u should keep your comments to your self. I mean we are humans and we all make mistakes but that doesn't mean you come out and bite people's heads off. Thats the problem with the world today instead of stopping and helping u choose to be agressive and blame them, anyways i am happy to say that other more thoughtful members of this forum helped me. Thanks..

Well, I don't really want to flame your posts but Rorydaredkign is right maybe not the right way to say it
The information you seek are just 2 clicks away from the button "new topic" and a little search might help find anything you need but obviously you did not take a bit of your time to browse the forum...
As a new comer, do not take anything for granted!

@original poster
If you can get 1.37 to load up and apply some of the settings in the Diamond Tweaks sticky you will find things a lot better.
I would stay away from tweak number two in that thread though as most people have found it renders their handset inoperable and have to hard reset. However, as you will have to hard-reset to upgrade anyway you might want to give it a go.
I agree with you about the aggression. I understand the power of search but when you're new, a string of posts telling you to use the search, when it would have been quicker to answer the question, is unnecessary - and not really community spirited.

Sorry to flame, but in about 3 weeks, this forum has degenerated from a place of discussion to a place where noobs just ask and don't search. And thats slightly annoying.
But, I'll say no more.
Rory

noob
rorydaredkign said:
Sorry to flame, but in about 3 weeks, this forum has degenerated from a place of discussion to a place where noobs just ask and don't search. And thats slightly annoying.
But, I'll say no more.
Rory
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And what makes you not a noob are countless posts like the one above which have elevated you to "Senior Member". Congratulations on your achievement.

arisg said:
And what makes you not a noob are countless posts like the one above which have elevated you to "Senior Member". Congratulations on your achievement.
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Well for one, I know how to search
And the thing is, like I said, normally I would search myself, then post a link, but when there's an actual forum called Diamond ROM Development, I couldn't be ****ed.
And you say its posts like this which have made me senior, but you're wrong.
Granted, I tell people to search, and I should probably just say nothing, but before, people have told me off for describing in detail something which can be found by a 2 word search or in the wiki.
So don't just think I go round telling people they're noobs, I don't usually, But here I have.
Rory

Peace, people! This forum isn't the right place for this kind of discussions

ok guys since i started this i will make an attempt to end it,
"rorydaredkign"- i understand ur frustration and i am sure your senior member due to more positive reasons than knowing how to search, but it is wrong to bite people's heads of just because they do not know something even though it is two clicks or one click away, i mean take an example ur in a new place u have never been and when u ask for directions people bit ur head off and tell u why not get a map. You should put ur self in my shoes, i just purchased the diamond its expensive and its not working propoerly so i was freaking out and was trying to get help as quickly as possible, if i had time on my hand i would sit and search and go through the whole forum. There is no need to go around calling people names we are all mature here and name calling is something we all left back in junior school, by you going around the forum and calling people noobs just displays u as an unprofessional character, This forum is set up so that people everywhere can assist each other and share the knowledge, so please lets burry this hatchet and try our level best to maintain strong good community. Let us leave this issue behind us and move on with what is really important. Not that there is a need to applogise but i feel i should applogise for asking a question when i could have searched and found what i was looking for. Having said that i still enjoy this forum i think its fantastic and there is alot to learn from everyone here, thanks to everyone for their contribution.

Newbies questions here please!

For noobs : Before posting a question, read this thread then if you're still in the dark ask here!
Please don't start a new thread unless you haven't found a satisfying answer here.
Welcome, and enjoy!

Maybe I should post a warez link to get the mod's attention?
COMMON people...we have 3 stickys with TouchFLO and one that hasn't been posted on since January.
Can't we please have one for noobs?

stormlv said:
Maybe I should post a warez link to get the mod's attention?
COMMON people...we have 3 stickys with TouchFLO and one that hasn't been posted on since January.
Can't we please have one for noobs?
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hey i think the mods have been replaced by clones from the iphone lab and are slowly planning on taking over the forum - then the world!!!!!!!
WILL ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
(does that qualify for a noob post?)
agree should be a thread where any noobs can ask nooby questions without some people on here biting there heads of and scaring them away from this forum.. All of us had to start somewhere. Lets welcome in the noobs rather then send them the other way, hopefully if we can teach them how to resolve there problems they may even help others.....

agree
stormlv said:
Maybe I should post a warez link to get the mod's attention?
COMMON people...we have 3 stickys with TouchFLO and one that hasn't been posted on since January.
Can't we please have one for noobs?
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hey i think the mods have been replaced by clones from the iphone lab and are slowly planning on taking over the forum - then the world!!!!!!!
WILL ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
(does that qualify for a noob post?)
agree should be a thread where any noobs can ask nooby questions without some people on here biting there heads of and scaring them away from this forum.. All of us had to start somewhere. Lets welcome in the noobs rather then send them the other way, hopefully if we can teach them how to resolve there problems they may even help others.....
"POWER TO THE N00B!!!!!"

I refuse to give up...I will keep "upping" this thread until I get it sticky

lol
we either get a sticky or get banned....
you sure you want to walk down this road old boy?

Nope, newbies don't search, and they certainly don't look at tacked threads.

THESpideyWVU said:
Nope, newbies don't search, and they certainly don't look at tacked threads.
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Some newbies do search but they can't find anything and for the ones that won't post silly questions here you can tell them "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION STUPID" or "WE HAVE A SEPARATE THREAD FOR NOOB QUESTIONS"

Power to the newbies!

Most n00bs are unaware of the fact that they are n00bs.
Patrick Star from Spongebob said:
Dumb people are always blissfully unaware of how dumb they really are... Uäääää
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Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sk7hrEbMk

OMG, That's hilarious

Firefall! said:
Most n00bs are unaware of the fact that they are n00bs.
Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sk7hrEbMk
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lol priceless.......

dilbert
any of you guys read/look at dilbert clips?

Lol guys..this is degenerating... Let's keep this just for the questions or we'll have the mods on our asses.
OH WAIT!?!?! THE MODS WERE KIDNAPPED BY ALIENS!

This is actually a really good idea but...
If you want to get a thread stickied (sic) then you really need to have some usefull information in the top post and reserve some below. This way you can maintain it to bring the good stuff to the top as it is added.
A 100 post long thread with maybe 5 bits of usefull information dotted through it really isn't helpfull. Forum search feature or not.

Yea...I might have left a few empty post...
I just thought that a thread like this just for questions wouldn't need that...It's not like you're gonna have all the questions on the first page or smth... It things would have gone well... it could have A LOT of questions...

Great its a sticky so lets see if this works........

Oh for the spark's sake, I'll start.
Not a single HD video plays on my Xperia, well Coreplayer does but its so choppy and insane. Even after converting with the Touch HD video converter software, WMP says "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
Then I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365381
Still nothing!
What's the deal?!

Lazerben said:
This is actually a really good idea but...
If you want to get a thread stickied (sic) then you really need to have some usefull information in the top post and reserve some below. This way you can maintain it to bring the good stuff to the top as it is added.
A 100 post long thread with maybe 5 bits of usefull information dotted through it really isn't helpfull. Forum search feature or not.
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Not the right criticism. It seems the point of this thread is not to be an encyclopedia of newbie answers (plenty of resources for that, especially mapledouglas' great web site), but rather a place where any newbie can ask a question that's been asked 100 times elsewhere, and find some generous soul to answer it. So newbie's shouldn't have to read through all the posts, just go to the end and ask the question that's nagging them!

Hi. İ cant find any solution to unlock
the SonyEricsson Xperia. Mine Enlisch
is not wery well, maby thats the problem.

Positivity!

I have experienced growing tensions in this part of the forum for a while. People flaming each other here and there because of things that is best left ignored or easily solved. I'm not perfect but here's my way of thinking and I think this forum would thrive if all flamers would stick to it.
Be positive. Have a gentle mindset when it comes to reporting bugs/issues you might have. If someone tells you to search, try yourself, ask them for a search term or just explain what you searched for and how you could not find it. It someone asks you something, don't go hating on the person for asking a dumb question, you have the choice to either ignore or help. Flaming should not be an option. DO NOT FLAME AND USE DOWNGRADING WORDS, PLEASE.
Today, someone expressed their feelings about itje's Touch IT 9.0 ROM and this has led to Touch IT being a closed ROM only availible to those who is friends with itje or those who he chooses to take part of his release group. This could have easily been avoided if certain words hade not been put into use. Please, think for a second before posting you negative answers. It has effects on other cooks and forum members.
Thanks
/F

I am very new to this forum. This is only my second post. But i have been here for 1 month now and i agree with you.
I have been on many forums that has users who uses negative answers and forgive me if i sound little harsh to itje and all others who coock ROM's. But this is the internet. There will always be someone who don't like what you or me are doing.
Sure i would also be sad if too many say they don't like what i am doing but this would aspire me to do better.
If i could coock ROM's like you in this forum could then i would do so even if someone doesn't like it.
Sorry if someone doesn't like what i'm saying but i have been on many forums where people have left because someone doesn't like what they are doing.
And i don't understand that. I'm sorry but i don't.
That's all for me. Hope itje will release his ROM's to the public again becuase i like his work.

felixkry said:
Be positive. Have a gentle mindset when it comes to reporting bugs/issues you might have. If someone tells you to search, try yourself, ask them for a search term or just explain what you searched for and how you could not find it. It someone asks you something, don't go hating on the person for asking a dumb question, you have the choice to either ignore or help. Flaming should not me an option. DO NOT FLAME AND USE DOWNGRADING WORDS, PLEASE.
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just incase its difficult for someone to read

funny that! i have been saying this all along! look at my post in the old thread 'everyone is a cooking master these days'. now there is a thread that should never have been started but which highlighted they way things have gone on here! some people who have been on here longer than others for some reason class themselves as above others and feel they have the right to make assumptions about people by their posts!. some might have seen my post in the touch-it 9 thread re the sms issue that was plaguing latest rhodium manila. if ya look you will see fards response to me posting my issues in that thread! basically he assumed that he knew about who i was by that and told me that i needed to get married etc to understand how itje felt about people posting probs over and over again. now i got offended by that cause one he doesn't know me and 2 what gives him the right to address me like that! NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE has the right to disrespect anyone's opinion or choice to do what they want on here within the regs. i will not stand any **** from anyone who thinks they have the right to chat to me like they know me! i try roms in fact i try all the roms posted on here just to see how they work! i hooked up wid WC because he respects me and vice versa. this place is about sharing and helping others and unfortunately we must have been like that once - a noob! remember your 1st flash and somethign went wrong! how panicky you felt and ya just posted without searching as ya may have felt ya broke ya phone etc. we all do it and thats what make us human! i respect everyone and i have no bad vibes wid anyone........... WC I love ya man. took me on face value and showed me love!

shingers5 said:
funny that! i have been saying this all along! look at my post in the old thread 'everyone is a cooking master these days'. now there is a thread that should never have been started but which highlighted they way things have gone on here! some people who have been on here longer than others for some reason class themselves as above others and feel they have the right to make assumptions about people by their posts!. some might have seen my post in the touch-it 9 thread re the sms issue that was plaguing latest rhodium manila. if ya look you will see fards response to me posting my issues in that thread! basically he assumed that he knew about who i was by that and told me that i needed to get married etc to understand how itje felt about people posting probs over and over again. now i got offended by that cause one he doesn't know me and 2 what gives him the right to address me like that! NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE has the right to disrespect anyone's opinion or choice to do what they want on here within the regs. i will not stand any **** from anyone who thinks they have the right to chat to me like they know me! i try roms in fact i try all the roms posted on here just to see how they work! i hooked up wid WC because he respects me and vice versa. this place is about sharing and helping others and unfortunately we must have been like that once - a noob! remember your 1st flash and somethign went wrong! how panicky you felt and ya just posted without searching as ya may have felt ya broke ya phone etc. we all do it and thats what make us human! i respect everyone and i have no bad vibes wid anyone........... WC I love ya man. took me on face value and showed me love!
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You have the right as much as anyone to get angry, but this is not what this thread is about. I am, through this thread, asking everyone to reconsider the things they have written before they post it so that we can avoid leaving cookers, hurt feelings and sold devices. Simply a request.

felixkry said:
You have the right as much as anyone to get angry, but this is not what this thread is about. I am, through this thread, asking everyone to reconsider the things they have written before they post it so that we can avoid leaving cookers, hurt feelings and sold devices. Simply a request.
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misunderstood mate as always! i totally agree wid what you said and was listing an example of how i have experienced what ya chat about! never angry mate as words dont bother! just dont like assumptions being made about me by what i have posted! rememba i am cool, live cool and dont stress anything!
so you are suggesting that 'cooks' have sold devices because of what people post without thinking? come on man i assume we are all mature on here and have some form of tolerance level for the things we expect to get on here be it negative or positive! in life we have take the good and bad in everything and everyone! you need to know what to ignore and what ya take on board! it is all about choice mate everything in life is about that!

shingers5 said:
misunderstood mate as always! i totally agree wid what you said and was listing an example of how i have experienced what ya chat about! never angry mate as words dont bother! just dont like assumptions being made about me by what i have posted! rememba i am cool, live cool and dont stress anything!
so you are suggesting that 'cooks' have sold devices because of what people post without thinking? come on man i assume we are all mature on here and have some form of tolerance level for the things we expect to get on here be it negative or positive! in life we have take the good and bad in everything and everyone! you need to know what to ignore and what ya take on board! it is all about choice mate everything in life is about that!
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Exactly - choice. Many people choose to flame when the mature thing is to just help or ignore, or simply search or ask again nicely. I'm sorry I missunderstood you post as angry.
To further answer, what I suggest is that fards sold his X1 for a Touch HD, if it was because he was tired of the mood in this part of the forum or not I do not know. itje has chosen to not make his ROMs public and as a result of this I read that one person was planning on selling their X1. It all has a domino effect. If it is right of these persons to react like they do is debatable, but they are entitled to their own reaction. The thing is that I don't think that people are aware of the consequences of being rude.
That is why I started this thread - so that people can avoid to piss each other off and so that we can have a helpful and productive forum.

felixkry said:
Exactly - choice. Many people choose to flame when the mature thing is to just help or ignore, or simply search or ask again nicely. I'm sorry I missunderstood you post as angry.
To further answer, what I suggest is that fards sold his X1 for a Touch HD, if it was because he was tired of the mood in this part of the forum or not I do not know. itje has chosen to not make his ROMs public and as a result of this I read that one person was planning on selling their X1. It all has a domino effect. If it is right of these persons to react like they do is debatable, but they are entitled to their own reaction. The thing is that I don't think that people are aware of the consequences of being rude.
That is why I started this thread - so that people can avoid to piss each other off and so that we can have a helpful and productive forum.
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do you think that requesting donations has some part to play with the way people post? i think that no money is free and certain people donate and expect something in return! if they don't get that then they seem to get angry and it reflects in post! i am not saying that only people who donate do that in any way. i honestly think that donations should only go to the people who started this whole xda thing and keep it running! also the people who release the kitchens as they make rom building possible! i just feel that when you take from people even if its donated there is a certain amount of pressure and expectancy that comes with that! when it is not delivered the reaction can be severe thus the recent backlash in certain threads! only my opinion!
@ your response to my question - people change their phones all the time as i get bored wid phones so quickly thats why i got so many! 2 weeks max and i need something else to play with! so if i get em all then i can use a diff one everyday! i am sure the people who suggested that they may sell their phones or who already have done are mature enough to recognize that it was not this forum or anything said in it that caused that to happen! any way i'm out! said ma peice and thats that!

shingers5;3867296if ya look you will see fards response to me posting my issues in that thread! basically he assumed that he knew about who i was by that and told me that i needed to get married etc to understand how itje felt about people posting probs over and over again. now i got offended by that cause one he doesn't know me and 2 what gives him the right to address me like that! [/QUOTE said:
YET AGAIN YOU COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WROTE!
do we need to go over that all over again?
ah f*ck it I give up!
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What about to set some report thing that would make like a % warn except it would say % flamer and than people would wach their reputation?
Also you could click report flame/spam post and if enough people would think it is spam it would tag the user and make that post fade.... (like on thottbot http://thottbot.com/i13262 you can see the good comments are yelow and comments with rating lower than 5 arent even shown (but you can change the treshold)
Maybe a filter "do not show post from users marked flamers more than 30 times"
This is a developers forum; I'm sure there is some folks who can write a thing or two to make the forums better
Just throwing ideas here, because I belive people can't change based on one post (specialy the flamers and spammers don't), so why not a more direct approach...

fards said:
YET AGAIN YOU COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WROTE!
do we need to go over that all over again?
ah f*ck it I give up!
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stop being so damn melodramatic and no need to swear. bottom line is ya had no right to say it and instead of being a mature and apologize ya try to make it look like i am dragging it out! i find this hilarious all this!

Time and time again the same problems occur,
I've been on this forum for years.
and to be honest it is getting boring (this is meant in general and not aimed at anyone)
how much skill has this forum lost because of this *****iness.
im sorry, this has got to stop,
I Love the roms and support the likes of (but not limited to) ITJE and fards contribute to the forum, and respect the work that they do, as such i would never flame them, everyone should have this level f respect and in return the cooks and specialist should return the favor
this is why i have suggested in the past that cooks have read only release threads, this way, found faults, fixes updates etc can be kept together. a seperate thread can then be made to discuss faults.
I dunno just rambling now and adding no value, please ignore me

rosebud said:
Time and time again the same problems occur,
I've been on this forum for years.
and to be honest it is getting boring (this is meant in general and not aimed at anyone)
how much skill has this forum lost because of this *****iness.
im sorry, this has got to stop,
I Love the roms and support the likes of (but not limited to) ITJE and fards contribute to the forum, and respect the work that they do, as such i would never flame them, everyone should have this level f respect and in return the cooks and specialist should return the favor
this is why i have suggested in the past that cooks have read only release threads, this way, found faults, fixes updates etc can be kept together. a seperate thread can then be made to discuss faults.
I dunno just rambling now and adding no value, please ignore me
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I think that made perfectly good sense man Thanks for understanding what I meant with this thread.

I dont know, but flaming goes both ways in this forum or any other forum as a matter of fact.
a. A newbie comes in and asks a question, some chefs flip out and be like read the bloody first page or other works I did in a not so mild manner. True I believe that they should have read the instructions on the first page in highlighted color, but no need to come off as an asshat towards anyone.
b. a newbie flashes their rom to one of the customs, I believe that the guy who flashed their rom have no right to be like this is **** i lost some of my features. That is a serious slap in the face for the chef who put in their hard work to create this rom. Remember chefs are doing this for us for free, we are not obligated to flash ... we flash by our own accord and have to agree to some sort of disclaimer about device performance when flashed. So if you flash, and have some issues, take a look at the first page for their bugs, if not do an in thread search for the exact same problem that you are having, chances are you would find the solution.
c. This one is a classic ... someone asks a question, quickly some guys reply, do a damn search, stating comments that people are idiots or something to the sort ... basically flaming the question poster hard making it seems that the question poster wasted this amount of time or bandwidth on their part. I swear some flamers are extremely melodramatic, waiting for every chance to get off on someone and secretly high five someone in their society.

bottom line is guys, chill out take it easy. this here isnt a life or death situation, you wont die if you do a quick search on something, nor you wont die if you just help someone in a polite manner or maybe just ignore them.

ahhhhhh, the irony

tincmulc said:
This is a developers forum
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that's the problem. Imho this isn't anymore a developer forum. In the last 2 year as winmobile widely spreads up (because of carriers, mode, prettier devices and so on) this has become a 50% dev and 50% leech forum. 20% of leech are going to become future devs and want to "learn", the last 30% are only noobs who wants "free lunch" and pretend to be 100% assisted to make their device cooler. I often read "sorry but I can't read 50 pages of thread..." WHAT?!?!?!?! Someone has spent dozen of hours to cook a rom or develop a program and you deserves yourself the right to don't read?!?!!?
we have to try to resist

guap said:
that's the problem. Imho this isn't anymore a developer forum. In the last 2 year as winmobile widely spreads up (because of carriers, mode, prettier devices and so on) this has become a 50% dev and 50% leech forum. 20% of leech are going to become future devs and want to "learn", the last 30% are only noobs who wants "free lunch" and pretend to be 100% assisted to make their device cooler. I often read "sorry but I can't read 50 pages of thread..." WHAT?!?!?!?! Someone has spent dozen of hours to cook a rom or develop a program and you deserves yourself the right to don't read?!?!!?
we have to try to resist
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well said..or written

guap said:
I often read "sorry but I can't read 50 pages of thread..." WHAT?!?!?!?! Someone has spent dozen of hours to cook a rom or develop a program and you deserves yourself the right to don't read?!?!!?
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Itje, I agreed. And this one is the quote of the today.

guap said:
. I often read "sorry but I can't read 50 pages of thread..." WHAT?!?!?!?! Someone has spent dozen of hours to cook a rom or develop a program and you deserves yourself the right to don't read?!?!!?
we have to try to resist
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so because someone writes this does it give anyone the right to disrespect them and talk down to them! what right has anyone on here got to talk down to anyone because of what they wrote! no one has the right end off! can you imagine your reaction if someone spoke to you in a similar fashion because of a stupid post! so called devs need to understand that because of the quality of work they produce they have amassed a following. that in its pure sense is a compliment to their work! learning to embrace whats pure and shun whats not is they key! in life there is good and bad in everything and people never remember you for the good you do in life. they only ever remember that one time ya slipped up, fuked up or didnt live up to expected standards! thats human nature and we all have done it at one time or another in our lives! ignoring the stupid posts, pm etc is the key! block dem of your messenger etc.

[Q] Want Windows 7 on Touch HD ------^

Hi all,
Can anyone please help me out with windows 7 rom for my touch hd, i really want to get it, cause it looks cool. please it would be nice if you could give me the link.

Great idea! Except for the part where it is a looooot of work (if it even can be done), and the part where it will lagg like **** on our HD's because we've got about 35% of the speed needed to run WP7 smoothly.
summary: if you want WP7 you should buy a new phone

@OP: and why do you post it here?
it is a general question,and has nothing to do with development,
for God's sake are you literate,and do you understand word development
@all of you who post new threads and don't give **** about the forum itself: ...come on read a bit,everything is in stickies,wiki and general...even fallen spartan is somewhere around all the time,do you really have to torture the poor guy,he maybe has wife or children or pretty much anything that is more important than sitting here and constantly saying "thread moved,thread closed"
just read and spare everyone pain in the ass
@everyone else: treat this as noob bashing i don't care....flame me i care even less, these guys just drive me crazy because they are so lazy that they don't even read before posting (not to mention searching or something more complex like thinking)
@everyone (including all those who aren't mentioned above): have mercy for our mods,they are people too,don't **** in their front yard

farukb said:
@OP: and why do you post it here?
it is a general question,and has nothing to do with development,
for God's sake are you literate,and do you understand word development
@all of you who post new threads and don't give **** about the forum itself: ...come on read a bit,everything is in stickies,wiki and general...even fallen spartan is somewhere around all the time,do you really have to torture the poor guy,he maybe has wife or children or pretty much anything that is more important than sitting here and constantly saying "thread moved,thread closed"
just read and spare everyone pain in the ass
@everyone else: treat this as noob bashing i don't care....flame me i care even less, these guys just drive me crazy because they are so lazy that they don't even read before posting (not to mention searching or something more complex like thinking)
@everyone (including all those who aren't mentioned above): have mercy for our mods,they are people too,don't **** in their front yard
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Chill down , brave guardian, 'cause it looks like you gone blow up anytime!
And... watch your language!?

The answer to your question
[Q] Want Windows 7 on Touch HD ------^
is
Yes I do.
But, if you are asking where to start, I think wiki is the place !!!!!!!!

bib*oops said:
Chill down , brave guardian, 'cause it looks like you gone blow up anytime!
And... watch your language!?
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nah, i don't blow that easily,but people just won't read or do anything by themselves...i mean all of us were noobs once we know how it was,but i can say for myself that i always read as much as i could before asking
what's that with guardian?...if you are saying that because kwbr's thread...what's wrong with informing people that they posted it in wrong place and making an example what not to do to others?

Ok, this is not my forum, but I just want to put out a few words.
I feel honored about the way you think highly of the forum and mods, farukb. But seriously, relax. Just use the "report post button" on top of a post if you feel it's not in the right section, or against the rules. We mods get these reports instantly and we'll be in here before you write your witty reply.
I've reported this now, so the FSM (forum specific mod) can action this.
Oh, and be nice for the noobies, they have to learn the xda ways.

i just became fed up with couch potatoes...
check last 3 days and see that there were several threads that didn't fit into specific subforums...i mean what is the problem with reading the subforum name?..not to mention anything else
in other hand if someone asks for some guide or explanation that is backed up with some reading or searching effort,i'm glad to help
...but anyway, roger that, neo....
one more thing...it is a good to be able to learn from your mistakes,but it is even better to be able to learn from other people's mistakes
cheers everyone

farukb said:
one more thing...it is a good to be able to learn from your mistakes,but it is even better to be able to learn from other people's mistakes
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And with that, let's end the discussion. People, please READ THE RULES BEFORE POSTING, to prevent discussions like these.
Thank you.

I've decided to close this thread as it serves no purpose. Firstly OP decided not to follow forum rules by searching and reading beforehand, and secondly posted in the wrong forum
Its posts like this which winds people up and starts flamewars
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