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iSwish - "iPhoneish interface"

Just saw this on Engadget, and figured everyone here will be interested in this. A swiss company made a user interface for all WM devices that emulates the look and feel of the iPhone interface. This company also tried to add "multitouch-ish" functions to the WM devices by simulating multi touch features while displaying photos and web pages. .
Looks pretty cool so far and it has potential. The article states that it will be available for download in May.
Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/30/video-iswish-puts-the-iphone-ui-on-any-windows-mobile-phone/
Video of interface:
http://www.flicksoftware.com/research/index_files/Page350.htm
I am currently using SPB Mobile Shell but am willing to check out all other UI apps out there and this one looks promising.

looks very good. hope this will commin soon for us
its best iphone copy i´ve ever see
cant wait it

Looks good actually. I'll be keeping a watch on them as well as here for a download.
iZoom looks promising as well, even if Swish isn't available when Zoom is released.

This look sick , very sick. Ive never seen any iphone clone this much fluidy

Looks cool; see here http://www.flicksoftware.com/research/index_files/Page350.htm for details about joining the beta....

this looks cool, got myself on the beta when i saw the engadet post

hmm..reminds me of the Freestyl application that I really didnt like. Hopefully this one is much better. Going to try it out.

Update 03/May/2008:
We would like to thank everyone for their support and for Joining our Beta program. We have received over 2000 requests and we will be breaking them into 3 tiers with an increasing number of Beta tester in each one. The tier 1 will be selected late this week and will only be about 10 people, if things go well then late the following week we will expand to 100 and before months end over 1000.
Lastly to answer the number one question we have had, yes we do plan to start testing the iSwish development kit in the next 30 days. This will allow any designer to add iswish capabilities to their own windows mobile/PPC/CE applications. If you are a developer and interested in beta testing this please e-mail us at “[email protected]” with the subject “iSiwsh development environment Beta” and your company, name and current development environment.
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i hope this makes the light of day in a released piece of software!!

I'm in for at least trying it out. I'm a sucker for eye candy crap like this.

It looks like it enables dualtouch in WM?

New iZoom video for iSwish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icOMJuuWePY

udgn said:
It looks like it enables dualtouch in WM?
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True with iZoom...dualtouch is now possible on a singletouch interface. Look at the youtube video just above my post...they even installed dualtouch on a 6yr old device.

I guess it's a kind of dualtouch, though it seems that one point has to remain fixed when in this mode. Still could be quite useful I'm sure.

Looks promising but overall I think the idea is silly - I would of just bought an iPhone

digitalninjas said:
Looks promising but overall I think the idea is silly - I would of just bought an iPhone
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ok so just by one then...
you will end up with no GPS, MMS, Video recording, Bluetooth, SD slot, 3G etc etc etc
you will have a phone with a nice screen...thats is...I like the iphone but I dont like the actual phone....feel me ?

Exactly. The iPhone is nice looking, smooth, sleek and shiny, the Kaiser is big heavy and some have said ugly. But compare the features. The iPhone is a million miles away.
I briefly considered the iPhone before I got my Kaiser and I made the right choice. The clincher for me was the commercialism surrounding the iPhone. Too many people have jumped on the bandwagon and it's just not that cool anymore. Personally I don't think it ever was - a phone for show-offs who just want to impress people. The Kaiser is different. It may not look the best and the WM interface may not be to everybody's liking. But it can be a SatNav or a GameBoy, a notepad or a Webcam. The possiblilities are almost endless. And if you really can't live without the iPhone's inteface, you don't have to look far to get something similar, or even better.
Anyway, off topic, but that's my rant. I feel better now...

Macedon2000 said:
ok so just by one then...
you will end up with no GPS, MMS, Video recording, Bluetooth, SD slot, 3G etc etc etc
you will have a phone with a nice screen...thats is...I like the iphone but I dont like the actual phone....feel me ?
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ah, I get where you're coming from.
<3

matmaneyre said:
Exactly. The iPhone is nice looking, smooth, sleek and shiny, the Kaiser is big heavy and some have said ugly. But compare the features. The iPhone is a million miles away.
I briefly considered the iPhone before I got my Kaiser and I made the right choice. The clincher for me was the commercialism surrounding the iPhone. Too many people have jumped on the bandwagon and it's just not that cool anymore. Personally I don't think it ever was - a phone for show-offs who just want to impress people. The Kaiser is different. It may not look the best and the WM interface may not be to everybody's liking. But it can be a SatNav or a GameBoy, a notepad or a Webcam. The possiblilities are almost endless. And if you really can't live without the iPhone's inteface, you don't have to look far to get something similar, or even better.
Anyway, off topic, but that's my rant. I feel better now...
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I agree completely, but after buying an iPhone and using it for a week or so, I really loved the interface. I love the screen and how easy it is to navigate through everything. The browser is ten times better than PIE, and although you can get Opera or Skyfire, on the 2.8" screen they are still really difficult to use. In the end I chose to keep my kaiser over the iphone because I couldn't get used to typing without a hardware keyboard, but in all honesty I really loved the iphone interface.

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Hello Beta Tester,
We will have an update for you later this week on iSwish, but I thought I would point you all to the new video one of our developers posted last night showcasing the iZoom in full multi-touch with an interesting twist at the end. There was a measure of disbelief in its authenticity, so we hope this clears that up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icOMJuuWePY

*** Bye Bye my little Diamond - Hello E71 ***

Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************

??
I have to wonder why you even considered a diamond tbh..

you should get an iPhone

Nokia 1911 >>>> all

Surely you cant customise an E71 as much as a WM Device anyway?
I had an E71 for a while for work......My only comment on the device is "thank god i have a HTC Device!"

Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?

thanks for your replies, ... dont forget please, i'm just sharing my thoughts in non-perfect english. I dont except that everyone thinks what i think.
and hey, its a gameboy too, whith hardware buttons and a dpad but has perfect professional business solutions that i need.

Rotkaeqpchen said:
.....A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
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Really?? You mean my phone shipped with a Hellboy theme that changes all the icons, puts really cool flames all over the clock, superimposes flames over my contacts pictures.... that came with my phone? I really don't think you've looked into this properly.
That said, these phones are for people who are prepared to invest time and effort into them to reap the rewards. It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day

Monty Burns said:
It sounds like you have had enough of doing this, which is fine - i'm sure we will all give up one day
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You're absolutely right

goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...

danielch said:
you should get an iPhone
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I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards
ryousuke said:
goodbye
hope you enjoy your E71...
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thanks im curious too.

rotkapqchen
nokia is living of people wich are thinking like redhat. but they will be lost in futur

Rotkaeqpchen said:
Ok, ... here we go...
After several years wasting my time trying to modify, tuneup, accellerate, reorganize, customize and personalize my windows mobile devices (Xda Neo, Xda Orbit, Xda Terra) it is time to say goodbye to my one month old Xda Diamond...
It doesnt seem that microsoft will ever accept that their windows mobile is, ... just a windows 1.0 with better optics. no todayscreen replacement, tf3d, tf2d, spb ms, winterface, tochcommander has made things easier, just harder, slower and even more useless.
I thought, wow, as i heard about the new HTC Touch Diamond, waited 1 month for delivery and there it was, my Diamond, wonderful tf3d, opera, gsensor,...
Slow keyboard, Windows Mobile 6.1 (no OS), slow TF3d, slow Email, hard to use interface, and last but not least a (WOW) 900mAh battery, ... that enables me to use my Diamond ONE day! WOW again, and thank you HTC.
A main desire of human being is to cutomize, to PERSONALIZE their phone, to make it YOUR phone! When you look at a diamond you'll see the light breaking into many colors , ... when you look at your diamond you'll see BLACK and WHITE. Customizable STARTSCREEN, wooooooooho with a colorful background wallpaper, thats all.
I was expecting a wonderful , powerful multimedia mobile phone, great gaming capabilities like the iphone or something, ... but, whats there? WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER MOBILE, and OPERA, thats all... a slow camera, a slow HTC Album, a useless Streaming Media Client, MOSTLY unsupported games for NATIVE VGA resolution...
Good bye Diamond,
Good bye HTC,
Good bye Microsoft Windows Mobile 5,6,6.1,
Good bye TF3D,
Good bye NO great games,
Good bye XDA Developers Forum << you should be proud of yourselves, because it is YOU who are trying to improve these devices, ... and god damn, ... its hard work!
Thanks for all your tipps and tricks and Diamond Project 3.2 and Bepe 0.99d!
**************** AND HELLO NOKIA E71 ****************
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Believe me you wont be missed. Have fun with your mmm... super customizable mmm Nokia???

Rotkaeqpchen said:
I dont like the iphone,i like hardware quertz / querty keyboards.
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i dont know why you get diamond if you like qwerty keyboards in the first place ???
my messegae in the upcming weeks would be: ***bye bye my little Diamond - Hello Touch HD***

well well. Nokia is great for phone. HTC = phone = ****. HTC for customize. I like it. Some kind of killing my time to upgrade, check website, upgrade and upgrade until the time I said. I have a life now. Than I'm going to say goodbye HTC.
Again
HTC = phone = **** ( sorry to say that )
HTC = killing my boring time = yes

Hey, It's the same thing I said when I ditched my ROKR E2 and bought an a1200, but then again... I found motorlafans, and couldn't help it... it's too good to be left alone.
Then it came to me that I REALLY needed some good phone for office business (which the A1200 performed well, but lacked wifi and 3G... and syncing was a hassle). When the iPhone came out, I said «nice, pretty... but it doesn't fit my philosophy...» which is customization... not only for themes and etc. but for speed, performance and suiting needs.
I saw the first iPhone killers and said, no way. But then the Diamond appeared: small, nice, useful... then I started researching the Touch (the first one) and discovered this site...
Seeing all the possibilities, I said: What the hell! Let's roll with HTC, the mother and father of 80% of OEM handsets that took a leap and started selling their own stuff, and with great design and TRUE innovation.
BUT, the Touch wouldn't be up to the cut: too much third party apps to make it run like I THOUGHT it should...
XPERIA made its teaser trailers, and I went numb... but it was a promise of long delays, Sony branding and a lot of zeroes on the pricetag.
The Diamond turned into a bliss... beyond all the iPhone wannabes, beyond usability paradigms, I remember thinking «WOW, that's a smart way of arranging a Home Screen, without clutter, with access to all the basics upfront, just like a superphone with a Clark Kent/Superman switch... (in reference to the TouchFlo3D taking all the basics to a new level and letting the powerhorse to sit in the back and enjoy the ride)».
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
But then again, I'm now swapping for a US version, and the rollercoaster will start again... I'm positive that the same tweaked roms can be used with the same efficiency...
Time will tell. . .

boolean22 said:
Whence I've got it, I found that the TF3D needed some tweaking. I thought what I always think in such ocations: THIS CAN BE BETTER, SO WHY CAN'T HTC RELEASE IT ALREADY TWEAKED???
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now i have to agree on this one, HTC should tweaked some of windows registry before releasing it. for example, didnt they try the device when you try to reply an sms??? you could barely read your own message with that ONE line reply window
average consumer dont know what to do with this kind of problem, all they have in their mind is ''What the hell is this???''
heck we even need an unknown 3rd party app to adjust this small problem.
HTC please TEST your device before releasing it

It might be just mine, cause I use the fonts just one point above the minimum... but mine's got 2 lines... it's easier and the high res screen does a great job rendering minuscule fonts...

unwired4 said:
Are there people who hate the tf3d interface who don't realise that you can turn it off and then customise the homescreen on the device more than pretty much any other OS ?
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I guess so.. All the tf3d is a today plugin with some bells and whistles.
This device is really nice and fast when you diable that.

Rotkaeqpchen said:
Good bye NO great games,
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and how does the e71 help there? I believe the e71 is even less customizable and has even less games available for it.

SE answered some of the questions, but...

from the xperiancers.com blog >>>>>
Firstly, thanks to everyone who left questions and… here are the answers as promised. Most of the questions seem to fall under a few categories so I’ll answer them that way.
The Chipset: We chose the Qualcomm 7200A for two reasons. 1: It is a chipset that we know and trust, we’ve been able to optimize the device to significantly improve its performance. We’ve also improved the way the device manages its memory so we get a better multimedia experience, a more responsive camera, panels and panel management. 2: We wanted the X2 to come in at a lower price point than the X1. Rather than start work with a whole new chipset we chose to develop what we were doing with the Qualcomm to maximize the power / speed / cost ratio.
The screen: We chose the best possible TFT LCD we could find and we’re sticking by it – the vibrant 3.2 inch display on the X2 has high color saturation, high speed and contrast and a great viewing angle. Sony Ericsson will always look for the best and brightest in display technology and for the X2 we are happy with the display we chose.
The FM radio: This won’t be available at launch (sorry) but we are listening to your feedback and will work to bring FM Radio in at our first post-launch software release that will be free of charge for all users.
Panels: We will continue to develop panels for both the X1 and the X2 – look for more details on new panels right here on the blog.

yeah i saw this in the morning. what will be interesting is what price it is a retail (im in the uk). the x1 was sim free from play.com at lunch for £500 so according the answer about the cpu it should be cheaper. also it would be nice to see how much they have squeezed from the cpu.
about the fm radio. it seems the radio is there but they have software blocked it till there x2 firmware update, maybe they are having problems with the software.
the last part about the screen seems they have got the best screen they can have before going oled. 3.2" screen size is what i wanted (with 3.5" being max) and seems sony is happy with that size too.

Sounds reasonable. Well, once it's out I will try it as well as I will try the HTC Leo. Both are options, both make me wanna have them.
The price will decide a lot in that question : )

i just hope they give us a easy way to watch videos on it unlike the x1

Let me translate thet for you:
"We chose the same old, slow ass, outdated chipset, because we want you to pay twice for the same thing. We want to milk you for the most cash possible and after all, what would we do with all the stockpiles of the old chipset? Oh yeah, we took a lesson from Apple, people will buy any crap as long as we throw fancy words like "trusted" and "optimized" at them. Our customers are such idiots"

orelsi said:
Let me translate thet for you:
"We chose the same old, slow ass, outdated chipset, because we want you to pay twice for the same thing. We want to milk you for the most cash possible and after all, what would we do with all the stockpiles of the old chipset? Oh yeah, we took a lesson from Apple, people will buy any crap as long as we throw fancy words like "trusted" and "optimized" at them. Our customers are such idiots"
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Thanks for that translation
Kinda lame SE is totally dropping support on x1..
( yeah they bring out new panels.. sure... i dont believe it will be more then 2 panels ok i aint using the panels.. but still its kinda lame shouting at start we have a new interface with panels. One year later they dont even have more then 9 panels ?

oTToToTenTanz said:
Sounds reasonable. Well, once it's out I will try it as well as I will try the HTC Leo. Both are options, both make me wanna have them.
The price will decide a lot in that question : )
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The price is interesting, yes.
Leo has no keyboard......

spikegotti said:
The FM radio: This won’t be available at launch (sorry) but we are listening to your feedback and will work to bring FM Radio in at our first post-launch software release that will be free of charge for all users.
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Uh, so it means the FM panel from X1 can't be used on X2?

ipporek said:
Uh, so it means the FM panel from X1 can't be used on X2?
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Apparently true.....
I hope they'll implement the radio.
Would be shame not to have it.

why dont my comments ever get posted on the xperiancers website? i have posted like 5 times on different things and none of them show up!? is it because i am from the UK?

comeradealexi said:
why dont my comments ever get posted on the xperiancers website? i have posted like 5 times on different things and none of them show up!? is it because i am from the UK?
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im in the uk and mine showed up, they did not answer it but it did show up lol.
i think they have to be checked before they show up, so maybe your writing something offensive or using words u should not be using.
what did u say?

Ganondolf said:
im in the uk and mine showed up, they did not answer it but it did show up lol.
i think they have to be checked before they show up, so maybe your writing something offensive or using words u should not be using.
what did u say?
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"Will the X2 come with an application to convert videos onto it"
"Will the x2 come with a dedicated video converting application so we can watch videos smoothly unlike on the x1"
"What are the video settings for the x2?"
"Why dont my comments ever get posted"

if I get a X2 for free, then of course I won't complain

Running program

Hello.
I was wondering about a running program for the HTC HD2? do you guys have anyone that you prefer?
http://www.rungps.net/wiki/DownloadsEN i so this in a other thread , is this any good?

i use SmartRunner on my blackstone, but had no time to test it on my leo... it starts fine, but did not test gps fuctionality.
You have all the info you need and even tracking and then uploading and showing in google maps

o realy.
But does it show you your traning, like how much you been running , and maybe some other functions?

tomacro said:
Hello.
I was wondering about a running program for the HTC HD2? do you guys have anyone that you prefer?
http://www.rungps.net/wiki/DownloadsEN i so this in a other thread , is this any good?
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I use this prg for couple of years now. It is complicated but when you make all adjustments to mach your needs is very stable and it can give all the information you ever need almost at the medical level. I have even a HRM band and a arm band for htc hd and is amassing. I didn`t find anything like it anywhere. It is very expensive but is wort all the money if you train regulately. I highly recommend this prg (I don`t work for them an I don`t have any commercial interest connected by them). the only thing what i don't like to that program is graphics, it is made for qvga screens and even if is working fine in WVGA it is ugly.

What he said. Pretty ugly, but excellent performance. I haven't found any other app to match it, or even to come anywgere close.

theres also so sporty pal

I tryed sportpal, but i find it kind of dif to understand the program :S

Just to add to the list of programs, even if it's not aimed at runners, it could be well used to keep track of your movements, it's a program called NoniGPSPlot.

tomacro said:
I tryed sportpal, but i find it kind of dif to understand the program :S
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Sportypal difficult it's very easy to use, click on start and start running

Just wondering if there are any other apps out there, specifically apps that upload to the web your progress, example: Nokia Sports Tracker and RunKepper for iPhone

I'm with Sportypal on my phone, i just came back from skiing, it worked great, also have been using the running and cycling mode.
The option for goal is nice and on some versions there is even voice feedback.
http://sportypal.com/Community

External Monitor App?

I was curious and thought this would be kind of a neat app. Is there an app that I can use to turn my GTab into an external/second monitor for my laptop? If so is it Linux compatible or just Windows? Is it USB or WIFI?

I've been trying to find something like this also.

You could try a remote access app. There are a few to choose from in the market. There are also a few threads here about some of the different options.

Looks like the iPad has one ... wonder if they will work on an Android version:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/maxivista/id380146095?mt=8

Doesn't look like it...
http://www.phraseexpress.com/phpBB3...&start=0&sid=0de7ef74024f2af56e0f99d9f067c652

jpmi23 said:
Doesn't look like it...
http://www.phraseexpress.com/phpBB3...&start=0&sid=0de7ef74024f2af56e0f99d9f067c652
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Too bad too, I like maxivista.
Surprised their devs are so naive as to say they couldn't see the market for and android version. Guess they don't actually watch or read the news much.
(BTW, I mean the PC version, I have never drunk the apple/itunes koolaid)

nunjabusiness said:
Surprised their devs are so naive as to say they couldn't see the market for and android version. Guess they don't actually watch or read the news much.
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Lol. I'll second that. Aren't we the "hackers" always looking to do something cool with our open source gadgets? They are as naive as it gets.
I was just thinking of something like this aswell. Is it possible to re-engineer the hdmi-out to take hdmi-in? I'd love to plug my cable box into my tab while i play xbox on the TV (or vice versa) I know there has been no positive progress on hdmi-in with HTC's mini-HDMI implementation. Maybe viewsonic (being a monitor company) has a better possibility? Any dev's feel like taking a crack at it?

iDisplay is available in the android market. works just like the iOS version.

Anyone tried iDisplay on the gtab?
I thought I'd buy it but there are only two bad reviews on their webpage and eleswhere I've read that they do no give refunds. There is no trial version on their site, but their terms of service says that customers are expected to run trial versions before they buy . . .
I sent them a kind message asking them if they truly expect anyone to give them money for basically nothing. But I tried to be nice, and to encourage them to post a trial so I could buy and give them a positive review. Five bucks ain't much, but darned if I'll give it away to shmucks . . .
Anyway, if the app works well, they deserve our support.
My gtab is running vegan5 and I use the HP mini wireless keyboard with both of the office suites available. The gtab is taking place of my laptop and doing a great job of it. To be able to also use it to augment the laptop by giving me more screen real estate would be icing on the cake.
Thanks for posting this thread. I never would have thought if it.

iDisplay working
I gave it a try and am happy to let you know it is working well. It is a bit laggy and slowed down my computer a bit but does work for an extra screen.

matthai5 said:
I gave it a try and am happy to let you know it is working well. It is a bit laggy and slowed down my computer a bit but does work for an extra screen.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll purchase the app. I loaded the XP application and it appears that a virtual server is created which could be the reason for the slowdown.
It would be nice if some of these application developers provided just a wee bit of info that could be used to determine if an app is appropriate or not. I think that the apple market has set a kind of precedent for wishy-washy frivolity that is going to carry over into the android market unless google demands a higher degree of responsibility. The time is now, before the market matures as android tabs and notebooks take over most of our computing tasks, as I think they will.
The apps written for the old Palm devices were held to a much higher standard than a lot of iPhone apps I've seen. But then the Palm devices were oriented towards business productivity and not so much as toy/entertainment oriented as iPhones and iPads. I spent part of the day with my hands on the Xoom tab, and talking to several Motorola reps and Verizon sales people. I must have sounded like an evangalist for the android OS.
If google is listening I'd like to tell them to take their work seriously right now because they could be taking over the entire personal computing market in the near future. Computing, regardless of platform, is not all about entertainment. We in engineering and science have needs that also require more versatile hardware and software. The tegra3 is just around the corner . . . then what? How will all those extra processing cores be made truly useful? I want an android powered tricorder.
My evangelical proclivities are simply gushing forth . . . (in all the wrong places)
Thanks again to the OP for initiating this thread.

I tried iDisplay today. I like it! It is a bit laggy, but works great other than that!
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc