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ATT HSDPA in my town!!!

So I was just out getting my midnight release copy of GTAIV on Xbox 360. I was in the middle of sending a few pictures of the event to a couple friends when all the sudden, at about 12:15am on 4/29/08, my Tilt switched from E to H!!! I couldn't believe my eyes! I thought my phone was lying to me so I ran a couple speed tests using Opera and sure enough the first test hit over 600kbps!! Usually I see around 200ish.
Just to be safe, I just got home and the first thing I did was tethered. I ran a speedtest from speedtest.net and saw 1.1mbps which is usually at around 300kbps.
Now here is the good part of the story. I have been hounding my ATT reps every chance I get asking when oh when 3G was coming to my hometown and they have been telling me July/August at BEST. So I'm thinking I may have stumbled upon ATT testing it out tonight. Still very cool. I guess tomorrow morning will tell whether or not it stays or if this was a test!!
What a great night, GTAIV and HSDPA... what more does a guy need?
Oh, I live in St. Cloud, MN.
UPDATE: 9:30AM and it's still on!

godfa7h3r said:
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What a great night, GTAIV and HSDPA... what more does a guy need?
Oh, I live in St. Cloud, MN.
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What more? Just this... here. (Link May Be NSFW depending on how Communist your Work is.)
BTW Congrats on your HSDPA. I've been loving it for a few months now.

I live in the Bay Area and I also experience HSDPA at times, mainly shortly when I'm on the freeway.

well, Italy, in this kind of stuff (pretty useless) is almost leader in the world.
we are completly covered by HDSPA, from at least 2-3 years.
but we have prohibitive tariffs (like $2.34 every 15mins or $47 for 100hours)

HSDPA has been on Minneapolis, MN from 10/2007.

its great isn't it? one day I looked down at my phone and say "3G" instead of E. I live outside of bakersfield ca. was a nice day for me.

1. no offense
2. I HATE YOU!!!!!!
3. I REALLY HATE YOU!!!!!!
4. Now let me apologize.. I'm sorry that I HATE YOU!!!!

i got HSDPA as well here in NJ welcome aboard! but uhh quick question..
how do u run a speed test using opera?

JstarLuvsTina said:
i got HSDPA as well here in NJ welcome aboard! but uhh quick question..
how do u run a speed test using opera?
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Try this: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1

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Try this: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1
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awesome! thanks

Ahh this is fantastic. I've been waiting for this day for years. I've come to realize it's basically like the transition from dial-up to cable internet. Man, I went nuts that day!
Now I can finally stream all my music to my phone without it having to buffer every 5 seconds! Horray!

AT&T has definitely been upgrading HSDPA in the US. Many think it is being expedited for the release of the 3G iphone. AT&T did the same thing to their Edge network right before the current iphone came out.
I am in NJ also, and I've had a 3G indicator all along, and an H indicator when downloading data.
In the beginning of April that changed to a constant H indicator.
From inside my office, 4bars H, 1mb test file from DLS Reports 665kbit/sec ... although I've seen better speeds over 999kbit/sec from other locations.

Proto732 said:
AT&T has definitely been upgrading HSDPA in the US. Many think it is being expedited for the release of the 3G iphone. AT&T did the same thing to their Edge network right before the current iphone came out.
I am in NJ also, and I've had a 3G indicator all along, and an H indicator when downloading data.
In the beginning of April that changed to a constant H indicator.
From inside my office, 4bars H, 1mb test file from DLS Reports 665kbit/sec ... although I've seen better speeds over 999kbit/sec from other locations.
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wow thats odd..when i first purchased my unit which was in March, i found k.tweaks and did that change first and every since its been on H.. i rarely get 3G anymore in fact.. if i do run low on service by my job, or low zones, it either goes to E or G.. i havent seen the 3G icon in about a month now
oh and when i ran my DLS report i got the same stats u had..

I've had my TILT since Nov 2007, and I also had enabled the HSDPA via tweaks.
I would always see 3G, unless I started a download ... say a podcast via Newsbreak ... then the icon would change to H.
The constant H is definitely a network change/upgrade.
Many of us thought it was a problem ... kind of comical now looking back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359636
Your area might have already been updated when you got your device.

Proto732 said:
I've had my TILT since Nov 2007, and I also had enabled the HSDPA via tweaks.
I would always see 3G, unless I started a download ... say a podcast via Newsbreak ... then the icon would change to H.
The constant H is definitely a network change/upgrade.
Many of us thought it was a problem ... kind of comical now looking back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359636
Your area might have already been updated when you got your device.
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dude u gotta be in my area...
ur 732. im 732
and if not mistaken.. proto.. is referring to paintball cause i have a couple proto masks from dye myself..
am i right or what?

digitalninjas said:
I live in the Bay Area and I also experience HSDPA at times, mainly shortly when I'm on the freeway.
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3G/HSDPA has been in the bay area for quite some time. I'm surprised you don't get it.
By the way I noticed differences in speeds in different cities. For example in San Francisco I get a 3G icon and it will switch to H when doing data. DSL speed tests are usually around 500. In New York City I never see a 3G icon, H the entire time. Speed tests are closer to 900-1000.

Half right Jstar ...
732 part is right.
Proto part is wrong.

As a note, mine is a constant H. I have not seen a 3G icon yet.
If you guys want to see some more data speed tests, please check out my other thread I created with a bunch of results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381236

Check out this thread where a lot of people also posted speed test results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370624

hambola said:
3G/HSDPA has been in the bay area for quite some time. I'm surprised you don't get it.
By the way I noticed differences in speeds in different cities. For example in San Francisco I get a 3G icon and it will switch to H when doing data. DSL speed tests are usually around 500. In New York City I never see a 3G icon, H the entire time. Speed tests are closer to 900-1000.
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What I meant was I usually get 3G but I'll switch to H at random times when I'm on the freeway.

is it gay T&T, or htc, or is it windows mobile, or is it the qualcomm chipset???

let me start of by saying that thanks to everyone that has left, inquired about or done something on this site to help others in customizing their phones beyond what is normally acceptable. and to the women of the men that have to deal with the guys tinkering around with their phones all day and ignoring you. lol. that being said, i have a few questions that i think after searching this website for almost a year i dont think anyone has targetted. as the title states, what do you think it is. is it possible for 3g devices just to not hold a connection to a tower, even with 3g turned off? i drop calls constantly and i dont mean a dropped call, i mean my phone just looses connection with the tower. 3rd fuze, so many different roms lata, still the same thing. now let me also inform you that i live in a part of town where there really is no coverage inside my house and i accept that fact. but even when i'm sitting outside my house, my phone will go from 2 bars to zero and the bluetooth in my ear keeps beeping till the stupid phone finds the stupid network. now talk about frustration. i have tried an Iphone, i have tried blackberries, i have tried symbian, basically i have tried anything that gay t&t can throw at me in terms of hardware and mind you these handsets are not cheap, i have the same issue in the same spots. i also live in one of the biggest markets in N America for wireless service and using the official coverage viewer, i am currently in a "great" 3g area. this area being the wonderful metroplex of dfw. now after doing some research and lots n lots of playing around with windows phones (going on 5 years) and finding out the downfalls of windows mobile, i am completely willing to accept those downfalls and still wanna use it on a day to day basis. hands down there isn't another OS as open to doing what you want, having the information you want in a efficient way. call me a fanboy but windows still has a hand up in the game even though it still looks like crap and the big 800 pound gorilla that is MS isn't willing to conform to anyone else's standard and make their OS look pretty. its about functionality and to the smart user thats where its at. i have also read a lot on qualcomm and this issue of drivers and performance and how devices that are almost pre historic are running better emulators, videos and the such without any luck on getting performance on the device. okay now that i have written a novel and most of you will be asleep by the time you read this, i need some honest opinions. really what i'm trying to do is figure out where to point the finger. or maybe by having enough ppl ***** about the same problem we might have someone look into better technology that is not only practical but is also reliable. not just one of the two.
thanks to all that got this far. lol
frustrated.
b.t.w i work in wireless so plz dont respond back with your an idiot blah blah blah, i deal with enough customers that are like that on a daily basis.

I am sure what you say is interesting, but franky I try to read your post and lost it after three lines. TBH, the first thought I had when seeing your post was to close the firefox tab ...
If you add some return to line to your post, it would really help.
And I don't mean to be rude, I just want to help you get more people to read ...

thanks for moving

I am not sure what you are asking...or telling?

yasserwaqas said:
is it possible for 3g devices just to not hold a connection to a tower, even with 3g turned off?
i drop calls constantly and i dont mean a dropped call, i mean my phone just looses connection with the tower.
3rd fuze, so many different roms lata, still the same thing.
now let me also inform you that i live in a part of town where there really is no coverage inside my house and i accept that fact. but even when i'm sitting outside my house, my phone will go from 2 bars to zero and the bluetooth in my ear keeps beeping till the stupid phone finds the stupid network. now talk about frustration.
i have tried an Iphone, i have tried blackberries, i have tried symbian, basically i have tried anything that gay t&t can throw at me in terms of hardware and mind you these handsets are not cheap, i have the same issue in the same spots.
i also live in one of the biggest markets in N America for wireless service and using the official coverage viewer, i am currently in a "great" 3g area. this area being the wonderful metroplex of dfw.
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I have split out the key points so this is a bit easier to read,
my first thought was to say its either a hardware fault or you need to upgrade your radio, however I then saw this part of your post....
i have tried an Iphone, i have tried blackberries, i have tried symbian, basically i have tried anything that gay t&t can throw at me in terms of hardware and mind you these handsets are not cheap, i have the same issue in the same spots.
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surely if your getting the same issue on completely different devices then it is a network issue in your area?
it maybe worth a look at getting a pay as you go sim from another network and trying that to see if you get the same issue.
Ril

I have similar AT&Tcoverage issues in my house, but when I have a strong signal, the phone works fine. No dropped calls or lost connections.
If you like the TouchPro, you may want to try Verizon. You can sign-up and have 30 days to cancel if the coverage is not good. One difference between AT&T & Verizon is that AT&T will support simultaneous voice and data connections where Verizon will not. This is why I chose AT&T, but my coverage is so spotty in Charlotte, I wish I had gone with Verizon. The simultaneous feature seemed important, but in practice, I am not sure I have ever needed it.
The only other challenge with Verizon is that you have to use their phone. You cannot get your own and drop in a SIM card. This limits your ability to waste time and money chasing the latest and greatest hardware which is kind of a bummer.
Good Luck.
Doug M.

lets do this.....
Why dont you...
b.t.w i work in wireless so plz dont respond back with your an idiot blah blah blah, i deal with enough customers that are like that on a daily basis.
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Well if you are a super-knowledge about wireles why you didnt found the answer yet...?
Maybe you can test this... dissassembly your oldest device... phone or whatever symbian, iphone whatever!!! every device gots the anthenna like a green ribbon inside the phone housing, if the phone's MotherBoard has a contact conector try to unplug the ribbon from the housing then connect it and see where does the phone gets the signal strenght enough as you wish, see all around maybe there is a big metal structure or big building and far repetition anthenas or behind.
As you must know
b.t.w i work in wireless so plz dont respond back with your an idiot blah blah blah, i deal with enough customers that are like that on a daily basis.
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In some parts of the country has great signal or bad signal streght because of many natural things, like magnetism, surface, and weather.
Ask to your neightbor if he gets the same issue on his phone... dude... get out of there if the device lost completly the signal.

dwmackay said:
One difference between AT&T & Verizon is that AT&T will support simultaneous voice and data connections where Verizon will not.
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Actually I'm pretty sure Verizon will also support simultaneous voice and data connections. I also regrett picking at&t because coverage is so much better where I live (charlotte as well) but then I think about how verizon tends to cripple their phones and the whole locked to cdma carriers thing. For example when the vz touch pro first came out, the gps was locked to only their gps software so no tom tom or google maps and they also cut the ram down to 192.

I think its just your area

sorry bout the post in the wrong place n thank you for moving it. for you that couldn't understand what this post was about, this was really an attempt to c if anyone else is having these problems. are they due to technology limitations or am i just expecting too much.
i will address the replies one by one, atleast the ones that had somethign useful to say.
r4st4m4n'--- If you add some return to line to your post, it would really help.
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(wut does that mean)???
blackc5 ---i am not sure what you are asking...or telling?
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hahaha....read my friend read.
Ril --- surely if your getting the same issue on completely different devices then it is a network issue in your area? it maybe worth a look at getting a pay as you go sim from another network and trying that to see if you get the same issue.---
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thank u for splitting up my points. this is probably why my english grades were never betta than a C. as far as ur point on network issues. definately a good possiblity although at&t techs have been in the area to test connections and coverage with no luck.
we use a code with agent plans that gives the "network support team" a msg saying there is an issue with a specific tower. waiting on getting this code and sending them a bunch of "*#" requests. lol.
dwmackay ---If you like the TouchPro, you may want to try Verizon. You can sign-up and have 30 days to cancel if the coverage is not good
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i wouldn't consider verizon cuz of the cdma thing. i know i know, call me picky but i do travel internationally (not that much) but still. and there is no way i wanna pay roaming charges to fill the pockets of some big wig.
+ Que PPC --- Well if you are a super-knowledge about wireless why you didnt found the answer yet...?
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i wasn't the one i said i was "super-knowledge" about wireless, you did. All i was stating was that i "work" in wireless. not sure how that makes me a wireless genius but okay. i like someone tooting my horn. haha. and disconnecting and connecting my antenna cables is a little too much for a casual user to mess with. do you think i can tell that to a customer that i just sold a fuze too. they would laugh in my face. but on ur request i will try this process just to c if i'm wrong.
DrzNight --- about voice n data
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i think its a 3g thing. voice and data simultaneously, have tried to do it on other gsm phones that were edge and wouldnt' allow.
dnieman13---I think its just YOU...
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haha. n finally i think ur rite. it prolly is me.

Mmmm maybe....
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+ Que PPC --- Well if you are a super-knowledge about wireless why you didnt found the answer yet...?
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i wasn't the one i said i was "super-knowledge" about wireless, you did. All i was stating was that i "work" in wireless. not sure how that makes me a wireless genius but okay. i like someone tooting my horn. haha. and disconnecting and connecting my antenna cables is a little too much for a casual user to mess with. do you think i can tell that to a customer that i just sold a fuze too. they would laugh in my face. but on ur request i will try this process just to c if i'm wrong.
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So as you work in wireless, the meaning of "i think its yours" is like this...
b.t.w i work in wireless so plz dont respond back with your an idiot blah blah blah, i deal with enough customers that are like that on a daily basis.
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Stay cool dude if you ask for something read too... in just tellin you that you may live in an area with issues on signal... agian... ask to your neighbor maybe he gots the signal strenght low.
Oh yeap, I just laugh on faces when the question is wrong applied and sounds so bad, bad enough to think that person is a jerk, but if you ask correctly your answer always comes clearly.
keep it up dude!

okay let me respond to that ppc.
i'm sorry if i came across as rude. wasn't my intent, i was just telling you what you had said.
and yes i have tried having three different carriers,(at&t, t-mobile n verizon) numerous different phones and in and around my house i'm just getting horrible service. matter of fact, the only i have not tried is sprint, and again due to the limitations of that network i just rather not go there. i can't just up and move out of my house and having cell phone coverage is HIGHLY important. guess i'll just have to wait on the femto cells at&t is promising before the end of the year...

Why doesn't my cell phone work in the air?

I am a pilot.. Usually my signal fades out around 2000feet or so. This seems to be worse with T-Mobile. I flew with a guy who had an iphone on att and it worked fairly well at 9,00ft. I had a CDMA phone a few years ago and it would work at very high altitudes 30,000ft plus. Nowadays, I usually cruise at less than 10,000ft, but I still have no service.
It seems to me that I should get better service at altitude, but this is not the case..It seems like one might have the same problem at high altitude in mountainous regions... .I have googled this for years but never found the answer... I was hoping someone on here might be able to answer my question: Why does my cell phone signal drop out at altitude? (I understand this :http://ashsd.afacwa.org/print_article.cfm?homeID=17917 but I am on a private aircraft) I understand the rules, but they don't explain the loss of signal...
I hope this is the right place to post this and thanks for your help!

iflyabeech said:
I am a pilot.. Usually my signal fades out around 2000feet or so. This seems to be worse with T-Mobile. I flew with a guy who had an iphone on att and it worked fairly well at 9,00ft. I had a CDMA phone a few years ago and it would work at very high altitudes 30,000ft plus. Nowadays, I usually cruise at less than 10,000ft, but I still have no service.
It seems to me that I should get better service at altitude, but this is not the case..It seems like one might have the same problem at high altitude in mountainous regions... .I have googled this for years but never found the answer... I was hoping someone on here might be able to answer my question: Why does my cell phone signal drop out at altitude? (I understand this :http://ashsd.afacwa.org/print_article.cfm?homeID=17917 but I am on a private aircraft) I understand the rules, but they don't explain the loss of signal...
I hope this is the right place to post this and thanks for your help!
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I believe that most cell sites work by line of site. If you are above them then I can see this happening. Besides, cell sites have a limited range anyway. Going straight up... who knows. But I only put my phone on Airplane mode while on flights and turned it on once (feeling rebellious) and had no signal. Of course I wasn't really surprised. Besides, cell towers have to hand off the signal from one tower to another to prevent dropped calls. If your travelling at 300+ mph I can see how that might complicate things as well. But these are just my own theories. CDMA signal is possibly more powerful than GSM. I've been out of the game for a while but again... it's just a theory.

Binary100100 said:
I believe that most cell sites work by line of site. If you are above them then I can see this happening. Besides, cell sites have a limited range anyway. Going straight up... who knows. But I only put my phone on Airplane mode while on flights and turned it on once (feeling rebellious) and had no signal. Of course I wasn't really surprised. Besides, cell towers have to hand off the signal from one tower to another to prevent dropped calls. If your travelling at 300+ mph I can see how that might complicate things as well. But these are just my own theories. CDMA signal is possibly more powerful than GSM. I've been out of the game for a while but again... it's just a theory.
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Sure...but I am usually less than 2 miles high and usually under 200MPH..Signal usually goes out when climbing out at under 150mph...
Thanks for your reply....

I was told a few years ago that it's the association with cell towers being the problem.
If you are going over them at 150mph+ its going to struggle to keep a decent signal....
Although i can confirm satelitte phones do not have this problem (neither does GPS tracking)

Burko said:
I was told a few years ago that it's the association with cell towers being the problem.
If you are going over them at 150mph+ its going to struggle to keep a decent signal....
Although i can confirm satelitte phones do not have this problem (neither does GPS tracking)
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I suppose I should have also stated that the same thing happens when I climb into a strong headwind and travel over the ground at 100mph or less..does not seem to be speed dependent..

I know this thread is kinda old.. but I am still wondering..
I don't think it was anything to do with speed.. I could do very tight circles in the plane and still have the same results....

Just guesswork here, but it could have a lot to do with antenna design. In a prior life I had to design a couple of wireless WANs and found a wide variety of dispersal patterns available in different kinds of antenna. By restricting the pattern you can concentrate all your available power in any particular direction. I'm guessing they narrow the vertical dispersion to get more effective signal strength horizontally. Don't know if that's actually the case, but it sounds good to me.

is it my device or the network? 3g speed.

i just got this phone yesterday. it's a pretty good phone and feel solid but what dissapoint me is the web browsing speed. i live in tampa and i heard we got hspa. so i dunno why i'm getting 0.40-70 mbps most of the times. the guys who work at t-mobile show me their speed test on their nexus one shows around 2-4.0 mbps.
anyway to fix this problem? did i got a faulty device? i usually try the web in my house and i dunno if that's the reason why my nexus one doesn't get fast speed. but my evo 4g runs okay.....even tho it's from sprint.

You sure that you have the T-mobile version of the nexus one?
AKA- is it displaying the 3g Icon?

okay, i've just drove around tampa and speed test my nexus one's 3g. the highest i went up to so far is 2.61 mbps. that's the highest i think i've seen so far from my nexus one. even my sprint's evo 4g doesn't go up that high. that's not bad! lol i'll try to compare those two again tomorrow when i'm at work. i guess the reason why i got slow speed is because i'm in a crowd neighborhood community and t-mobile coverage is not as good compare to when i go to the main road. even tho i did i got 1.36 mbs yesternight when i stepped out of my house. in the house....it's not so good.
well, i'm glad it's not my nexus one problem and more to do with my area. now i get go return my evo 4g and save some money on my family plan. gotta admit tho, sprint's 3g stay consistent most of the time compare to tmobile.
and yea, i checked the inside back of my phone yesterday and it was for tmobile. it shows 3g most of the times too. thanks man. cheer!

In my opinion, sometimes those radio waves just don't pass through walls as easily as gamma particles do. Now, if we could figure out a way to get a phone to use gamma radiation, but not kill people or give them cancer, that might be a pretty sweet setup!! Sorry, this probably makes no sense, but I am tired, and its late.

make sense lol. could it be the material of the walls? because when i'm at walmart or some of the other stores, the 3g on my evo 4g is still fast. haven't tried the nexus yet.

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In my opinion, sometimes those radio waves just don't pass through walls as easily as gamma particles do. Now, if we could figure out a way to get a phone to use gamma radiation, but not kill people or give them cancer, that might be a pretty sweet setup!! Sorry, this probably makes no sense, but I am tired, and its late.
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I don't know if what you're saying is true or not, but I think I rather have low cellphone signal than cancer lol..

I just seem to get worse 3G reception when I go inside a building. Like in my house, I am getting 200 kbps, but outside it will be closer to 700 sometimes. It really bums me out
But, yes, I agree with you. Bad cell phone reception is better than getting cancer. Tho there are some nuts that think that cell phones WILL give you cancer, lol.

T-Mobile data usage hack search

i remember some time ago, someone developed an app or program to install on the phone that tricks t-mo into how much usage you actually use. He had a screenshot of over 10GB of data used without being throttled. I searched but cant find and wonder if anyone knows where it is or can link me and does it work?

I don't think anyone here will/should aid you openly in circumventing TMO's data usage regulations--

this was a thread posted on XDA with many replies and views. I dont think T-Mobile should throttle my unlimited plan either

I do remember that thread but just use Google, found a few diffrent places with step by step how to
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When I was back in the states for a month, I brought my T-MO account out of suspension. I was under the impression I had an unlimited account (as that is what was listed on the website). It turns out that it was limited to 5GB. Well, I didn't find that out until half-way through the month when I got a text saying they were going to throttle my speeds. I wasn't too happy about it, and I called customer service to complain and find out what my options were. My only option was to switch to another plan that required a new 2 year contract and then pay an extra obscene amount to get data past the 5GB point. I wasn't pleased when I hung up the phone.
Lo and behold, next time I need to use the internet with my laptop (my only internet access was through tethering), I found my speeds were not throttled. I guess T-MO uses software on the phone to actually do the throttling rather than something network-side. By the end of the month, I had used 8GB (which I didn't feel bad about considering my plan was advertised as unlimited).
Anyway, moral of the story: CM7 doesn't seem to be affected by throttling with T-Mobile US (as of June/July 2011).

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Anyway, moral of the story: CM7 doesn't seem to be affected by throttling with T-Mobile US (as of June/July 2011).
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That is over 9000% wrong.
If you didn't know about the fine print that is your own fault and while it may be a little misleading it is in fact unlimited, just at a slower speed >5gb.

Been on T Mo for years. They implemented this what, a year ago. I'm well aware of it and am trying to hook someone up. First post attacked me as if it wasn't on this site somewhere when in fact it is or was for a while. I know how things work around here.... somewhat ...lol
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I wasn't attacking you on being incorrect about the thread. I remember it also. I was commenting on what I perceived (correct me if wrong) was an app to cheat TMO out of it's ability to throttle speeds above 5gb.
I am totally against that policy, but respect their right to do it. I also find the ads misleading.
But, if the app does that, then it is, to me, like finding a way to make free long distance calls when your company charges for them.
An ethical question, if not illegal procedure.
So, my comment was saying I didn't think someone would help you do that.
Again, if I am wrong on the purpose of the app, sorry. If not, I stand by my opinion.

evilkorn said:
That is over 9000% wrong.
If you didn't know about the fine print that is your own fault and while it may be a little misleading it is in fact unlimited, just at a slower speed >5gb.
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When I ordered the plan, they listed it as unlimited. When I viewed it on the site, it didn't have a data counter near it, it just said unlimited. So there wasn't even a way to see how close to the 5GBs I was getting. And I am not going to read through 30 pages of fine print just because they want people to think they have an unlimited plan (which as you state, is unlimited, just at a slower speed).
If they had let me know I had a 5GB cap before my speeds would be throttled, I would've totally changed my habits to prevent me from ever reaching that (I had downloaded an ubuntu ISO for a friend while we were out and about - definitely could've waited until I got to an area with wifi, had I known). I had no intention to go over, but when they try and mask what their plans are, how are we supposed to know unless we are lawyers and are able to understand their fine print.
Now that I know what my limits are, I won't ever reach them again. But do I feel bad for hitting their limits and then being able to go over them because I was running CM since they do their best to keep that information hidden? Absolutely not!

evilkorn said:
it is in fact unlimited, just at a slower speed >5gb.
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FYI: You just defined limited.
I live in a big city, so I'm never going to hit my 5GB or 2 or whatever it is this week, mostly because the 3G speeds are horrible here and WiFi is everywhere.
My complaint is that T-Mobile implemented a fundamental change to a service that is locked into a contract and they won't let you out of it.

Joe USer said:
FYI: You just defined limited.
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It's a speed limit, not a data limit. Unlimited data is unlimited.

from what i been searching around the internet, it all points to editing the services.jar to achieve this.
i havent found anything about an app to do something like this yet, so i wouldnt be so sure if there is.
but something like this in general would be nice to have just to get alittle more speed than was intended for
update: guess this is the page you were looking for OP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052064
it was ment for the g2x so it might not play so nicely with our N1s, but yeah if you really wanna look into doing this google is your friend! lol

htc g2
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i remember some time ago, someone developed an app or program to install on the phone that tricks t-mo into how much usage you actually use. He had a screenshot of over 10GB of data used without being throttled. I searched but cant find and wonder if anyone knows where it is or can link me and does it work?
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I use to have a htc g2 with a $50 dollar prepaid plan witch only give me 100mb 4g data speed
after I root my phone I also flash the HBOOT from the European phone htc dezire z after I did this I use all 4g I want and tmobile does not detect my data usage but this only works with wap.voicestream.com apn not epc you have to delete all default apn and create a new one with wap apn
now this seems to work only on htc g2 because I upgrade my phone to sensation 4g I root this phone flash radios,roms use different apn nothing works on this phone tmobile detect my 4g data use.....