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so i used to have a razr and on black friday i bought the AT&T Tilt. i've never owned a PDA or smartphone before.
now one thing i was wondering, if there's a program or some sort of tweak that would allow me to have a clock when my phone idles. i use my phone a lot as my clock and i would much rather have a digital read out of the time as a backdrop instead of a straight black screen.
also, i set up the xpress mail and i put my info for yahoo, and it downloaded my inbox but i can't get it to update and receive NEW mail. i can't find the update thing, i think when i set it up i had it update manually and now i can't find the place to change it. when i was reading gmail's mobile mail, it said there were only certain mobile email clients it works with, is there an outlook mobile or anything by chance?
lastly, this is the big one, i have a mac and want to bluetooth songs from my mac ONTO my tilt. i have a micro sd card in the tilt but when i tried to set up the bluetooth file exchange i couldn't get it to work right but i was able to set up my computer with my phone to connect to the internet. what do i need to do to get songs from my mac to my tilt through bluetooth. can it be done?
thanks in advanced!
alex
sdsguy said:
now one thing i was wondering, if there's a program or some sort of tweak that would allow me to have a clock when my phone idles. i use my phone a lot as my clock and i would much rather have a digital read out of the time as a backdrop instead of a straight black screen.
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First congrats on you new phone. Mine tilt should arrive in a few days. AS for you question I don't think there is such an application. Even if there was it would probably not be a good idea as it would likely cause your battery to drain quickly. This is a powerful little device that uses a lot of power that's why the display is set to time out (to help with battery life). Just learn to quickly tap to power button to wake the device for a quick glance.
sdsguy said:
also, i set up the xpress mail and i put my info for yahoo, and it downloaded my inbox but i can't get it to update and receive NEW mail. i can't find the update thing, i think when i set it up i had it update manually and now i can't find the place to change it. when i was reading gmail's mobile mail, it said there were only certain mobile email clients it works with, is there an outlook mobile or anything by chance?
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To update you inbox:
-choose the e-mail account you want
- then click on mene>send/receive
that should do it.
to change the option (manual retrevial & other options).
go to messaging app. them:
-menu>tools>options
then choose the e-mail account you want modify setting for.
sdsguy said:
lastly, this is the big one, i have a mac and want to bluetooth songs from my mac ONTO my tilt. i have a micro sd card in the tilt but when i tried to set up the bluetooth file exchange i couldn't get it to work right but i was able to set up my computer with my phone to connect to the internet. what do i need to do to get songs from my mac to my tilt through bluetooth. can it be done?
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Not sure about this one. I just put the SD card in a card reader an manually moved my music files to it.
Good luck. Hope this helps..
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
For the digital readout, you can use Slide2Unlock2 or the HTC Today Plugin found on these forums. They'll show a big digital readout of the time when you tap the power button. The other option is to use SPB Time, which will do what you're asking but at the cost of battery life. For doing automatic mail downloads, you should use Pocket Outlook (the default messaging app), and as Rojas said, set up your email account. The last page of options will ask you on what schedule you want to check. For the bluetooth thing, I think you need the bluetooth file explorer program. Search for it on these forums. Not sure why you'd want to transfer files via bluetooth though. There are so many easier ways of doing it.
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For doing automatic mail downloads, you should use Pocket Outlook (the default messaging app), and as Rojas said, set up your email account.
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i don't have pocket outlook on mine, i only had xpress mail. is there a way to download this?
For the bluetooth thing, I think you need the bluetooth file explorer program. Search for it on these forums. Not sure why you'd want to transfer files via bluetooth though. There are so many easier ways of doing it.
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what's easier? i figured since it's a mac the syncing program wouldn't work so i was just going to bluetooth files.
sdsguy said:
i don't have pocket outlook on mine, i only had xpress mail. is there a way to download this?
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Pocket Outlook, Word and Excel are included on every Windows Mobile device. Read your manual. You will learn a lot by reading it.
sdsguy said:
i don't have pocket outlook on mine, i only had xpress mail. is there a way to download this?
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Go to:
Messaging> new e-mail account
here you can set up you e-mail (basically this it pocket outlook).
I use the regular email on my Tilt, i have my gmail account setup through it. I had it working ok were it would send and i can get email off my gmail account, but after a few days of working i decided to log onto my gmail and delete all the old emails off the server, when i did it it automaitically deleted them off my Tilt, do i have to keep every emial on the server in order to keep them the emails on my phone or is there a way around this were they wont delete off my phone?
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I use the regular email on my Tilt, i have my gmail account setup through it. I had it working ok were it would send and i can get email off my gmail account, but after a few days of working i decided to log onto my gmail and delete all the old emails off the server, when i did it it automaitically deleted them off my Tilt, do i have to keep every emial on the server in order to keep them the emails on my phone or is there a way around this were they wont delete off my phone?
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Any emails deleted off Gmail server WILL disappear off your phone. Your phone is only a client to the server and reflects what is there. You would have to create a new 'folder' in Inbox such as 'Saved' on your WM device and copy them there (before you delete on the server) to save them.
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Any emails deleted off Gmail server WILL disappear off your phone. Your phone is only a client to the server and reflects what is there. You would have to create a new 'folder' in Inbox such as 'Saved' on your WM device and copy them there (before you delete on the server) to save them.
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would it be possible to save them into outlook on the phone? i tired to do that before, but i didn't see were you could move it from gmail to outlook unless you did it via active sync, but that means i'd have to be at a computer everytime. Or is there another program were i dont have to move an email everytime so it doesn't get deleted?
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would it be possible to save them into outlook on the phone? i tired to do that before, but i didn't see were you could move it from gmail to outlook unless you did it via active sync, but that means i'd have to be at a computer everytime.
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No, the mail client on WM devices is a very basic cut-down version compared to a PC, you can only move files within each service, not to and from services. There may be 3rd party app's out that do this.
Soz.
well i wont be able to create a new folder with gmail, because it doesn't allow you to, you can only create what's called "labels" so it looks like i may have to find a program that will allow me to keep the emails on my phone while i can delete them off the sever, any suggestions? preferably something free and easy to use. Or is there a way to use the outlook provided to receive the emails and keep them even if i delete them off the server similar to how desktop outlook works, w/o having to use active sync?
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well i wont be able to create a new folder with gmail, because it doesn't allow you to, you can only create what's called "labels" so it looks like i may have to find a program that will allow me to keep the emails on my phone while i can delete them off the sever, any suggestions? preferably something free and easy to use. Or is there a way to use the outlook provided to receive the emails and keep them even if i delete them off the server similar to how desktop outlook works, w/o having to use active sync?
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I don't personally as I prefer to use pop accounts that I have more control over. I am sure someone else on here will be able to help you with that.
One last thought, do you have another email account with Gmail (not used it myself but some of these give you more than one logon) or even set up another Gmail account called <username>backup and have your mail forwarded by your first to your second (via Gmail online settings) and then set the second up on your WM device also. When you delete from the first, the second will remain!
Just a thought!
I downloaded the cingular GetMail cab in order to install ATT Xpress Mail back onto my Dutty 6.0 ROM Flash. However, when I try to run the Get Xpress mail app, IE launches with this URL:
http://"/Program%20Files/AT&T/Express%20Mail/installer01.html".
Then I get the message "Cannot Connect... Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap settings."
It appears to be trying to open files locally. There is a Program Files/ATT&T/Express Mail directory with files installer01.html through installer03.html files. All give the same error.
Any help would be appreciated
open internet explorer, make sure it pulls up a new site, then while it's running open the program you need to open. See if it works then. I've had this problem with some apps like that.
If you have a Xpress Fail account already, you can log in to your account and download the program from there.
https://xpressmail.cingular.com/subscriber/login.stp
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open internet explorer, make sure it pulls up a new site, then while it's running open the program you need to open. See if it works then. I've had this problem with some apps like that.
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ChumleyEx, thanks for the reply. IE goes to the internet fine--just went to google. The Xpress Mail URL doesn't look to be on the internet. It seems to be referencing a local html file. I don't know what the install01.html file calls, however.
GWelker62 said:
If you have a Xpress Fail account already, you can log in to your account and download the program from there.
https://xpressmail.cingular.com/subscriber/login.stp
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Xpress Fail... I like that. I don't have an account. I wanted to test
Xpress against my blackberry connect software. ATT charges $45 for BBC on a WM device! Their charges for an unlimted data plan for a blackberry device is only $30. Very lame, since I don't want a blackberry, but I do want a reliable push type email, which, from what I've read, I can get with Xpress Mail personal. My wife has it on her Blackjack II and it seems to work pretty good.
I don't think you can test drive Xpress Fail, you have to have an account. Use the link I gave and register, and see if your data plan will allow you to have an account.
IMHO, Xpress Mail is fecal matter. Unless they improved the service in the last year, all it's good for is creating accelerated hair loss and global warming.
One more thing, if you have a POP or Exchange Server email account I can't see any reason to use Xpress Fail. WM does just fine with it's built in options. I ran Xpress Fail side by side with WM polling the same POP account every 15 minutes. WM was by far more reliable.
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One more thing, if you have a POP or Exchange Server email account I can't see any reason to use Xpress Fail. WM does just fine with it's built in options. I ran Xpress Fail side by side with WM polling the same POP account every 15 minutes. WM was by far more reliable.
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Thanks for the info. I'm actually using an IMAP account. My concern with WM mail is polling drains the battery far quicker then I experience with BBC. Since Xpress Fail is supposed use PUSH, I wanted to compare time lags. I do need to receive my email as close to real-time as possible without having to carry around an extra battery or my charger.
We'll see if I can get around the above error, however.
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gwelker, registering did the trick. I was able to send the xpress mail cab to my phone and run that one.
Thanks for everyone's help. That's why I love XDA-Developers.
I may be late to the game on this issue, but I can't believe what I'm hearing from another source. Hope I put this in the right forum.
Is it true that when we send or receive a POP message on our PDA that there's no way we can synchronize that message back to Outlook on the desktop?
What I need to do is to have any message received or sent using Pocket Outlook with WiFi or 3G/GPRS while away from my desktop syncrhonized back to Outlook via ActiveSync. I've been told this can't be done.
In other words, what we have here is the electronic Roach Motel for email?
Someone please tell me it's not true.
I don't think that's true. I haven't used Outlook/Pop Mail since my Dell Axim Days, but to worked then.
What's true is POP is a one shot deal. If you download the message from your email server using POP to your Mobile, you can't download it from your email server to your Desktop Outlook.
Yes, I understand that with POP, you have the option of either keeping the messages on the server, or having them deleted after download.
Here's a scenario. This is what I'd like to happen. Please let me know if it's possible with a standard POP/SMTP server (NOT an Exchange server, and IMAP isn't an option for me at this time).
1) I synchronize my device with my pc and emails are updated to their respective folders on the PDA while physically connected to my desktop. I then disconnect and leave my office.
2) While on the road, I download an email to the device using one of my POP accounts via either 3G or WiFi. I respond to that message and send it back. Now, I have one new message in the In Box on the PDA, and a response in my Sent Items folder on the PDA.
3) When I return home, I want both those new messages - one in the In Box and on in the Sent Items folder to be synchronized back from the PDA to the desktop.
I've been told it's not possible. Can someone confirm, and if it's true, please explain to me (in layman's terms) how messages manage to go into the machine, but messages downloaded using the PDA just don't want to come out?
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I've been told it's not possible.
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AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.
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AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.
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Incredible. I'm speechless. So, the phone really is like the D-Con roach motel.
I'm incredulous that we have a system that gets Email from the desktop to the machine, and a machine that can send and receive emails while away from the desktop, but can't manage to get the messages back to the desktop when you return.
I just fail to understand how something seemingly so simple can be so complex. After all, POP email is just more or less a text file.
Ok, I've been thinking about this.
Of all the Email addresses I have, the majority of them are in my control. There is only one email address (att.net) that I have no control over and offers only POP.
If I migrate my domains from GoDaddy (which does NOT offer IMAP) to another IHV, can I have my att.net POP email automatically forwarded to a 'ghost' IMAP account at a new host, and accomplish what I want?
I still get back to being amazed that Microsoft hasn't had the forethought to supporting synchronization of POP messages from the phone back to desktop Outook. How F'n stupid is that???
Thanks in advance for any thoughts y'all have on this matter.
I think in Windows Pocket PC 2003 it did sync with POP. But the Windows Mobile Line assumes everyone is using exchange servers. Microsoft makes a lot of assumptions like that.
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!
I'm currently in quite a similar situation - I use Outlook 2007 on my desktop to download ALL my email, 95% of which comes from my Yahoo account. As it stands right now, I POP download my emails to my Outlook (Yahoo doesnt support desktop IMAP unless you pay), and I IMAP it to my Tilt (Yahoo does, however, support IMAP to mobiles, i guess? ). Currently I'll BCC a copy of any email I send to myself, and then once it's POPed back to Outlook, I just move it to the Sent Mail. It's a hassle but it's the best I can do.
The one annoyance is that if you don't close Outlook before leaving home, the POP automatically marks the messages as "read" once downloaded, and so when the Tilt IMAPs them in, they're already marked as read and so I don't get notified.
If you figure anything out (that doesn't require access to my own server!) please let us know lol
JimmyMcGee said:
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!
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LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?
BillTheCat said:
LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?
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I prefer DreamHost myself.
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.
JimmyMcGee said:
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.
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Ok, so bear with me, because I'm still getting my head around how this all works.
Let's say I migrate my hosting and set up IMAP accounts for my various email addresses. Then I set both the PDA and my Desktop respectively to download and delete messages from the server. Will messages sent and received on the PDA (therefore stored on the phone) be replicated to the desktop using ActiveSync when I reconnect for a synchronization? Or will I find myself back with the same situation I have with POP where ActiveSynch won't 'see' the PDA's IMAP folders and refuse to copy messages to my Desktop Outlook?
Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.
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Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.
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Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!
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Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!
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Basically, yeah.
Maybe use a GMAIL account via Imap and seee what happens when you check it from two locations.
Feel free to shoot me any questions you have.
Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
I am currently using Comcast, and was considering going the Mail2Web route, but it seemed too confusing...I know, I'm a moron. (As for "Seven", I've heard it's not yet stable and it severly taxes the battery.) As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
Try seven.com you'll love it.
DrzNight said:
Try seven.com you'll love it.
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LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
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LOL, I was just editing that into my OP.
I've heard it's not stable yet in that there is a delay in receiving E-mails and that it places a large drain on your battery.
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Although it is still in a beta stage I don't think it unstable at all and emails at least for me being pushed from gmail come within 2 seconds. I can't disagree that it will take a toll on your battery but that's the price we pay for push email. If anyone has any other suggestions I'd also be glad to know.
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Hello all,
I've now had my TP for almost 3 months and am truly loving it. As you might know, I was a TOTAL noob to WinMo, and in regards to some of the more advanced things, I still am.
This brings me to my topic:
I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook allows for "Push" e-mail on to the TP. If not, what recommended E-mail systems are out there that can push to the TP (i.e. gmail, hotmail, yahoo)?
.... As such, if anybody who has had success with Mail2Web and the Touch Pro, would you mind posting (or PMing) "step-by-step" instructions on how you got it working?
In either case, I also ask the more experienced people if you can either tell me or direct me to a site which explains the whole concept of Outlook, Exchange, and other elements of Push e-mail.
Thank you in advance,
- WildAce786.
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I use Mail2Web. It's easy to setup, just go to Activesync and add a server and use:
[email protected] (as the username)
ur password
and skip the auto detect the server step and use:
mobile.exchange.mail2web.com (as the server)
**Note-I don't use mail2web as my email, I use gmail. And what I did was set my gmail account to foward to the mail2web account, so I get the emails pushed from both. However, the outgoing email address it shows, when I send a message is the mail2web account.
I've been using this for a while, and it works pretty good. I get email notifications pretty much instantly with this setup, and also syncs my contacts, calendar and tasks online for easy backing up
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I would like to keep 3rd party sources as a second option.
First, I would like to know if Microsoft Outlook has the ability to Push E-mail to the TP without severly draining the battery.
Now, if that is not an option, then I would like some clarification on the Mail2Web process.
1) Do I need to register with mail2web first?
2) When you said
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, where exactly is Activesync located and how can I go about adding a server to it?
I know I sound like a moron, but that's because in this matter, I am.
another option is EMOZE. Its a good alternative to seven if you just care about emails. it really dont do the contacts too well and calendar not at all. again good app if you just care about getting your gmail emails....
Well, after a lot of searching, I went ahead with steb0ne's idea of using Mail2Web LIVE. So far it works great, especially since I've set all my comcast e-mails to autoforward to the M2W account so I can receive them "instantly" as well.
I do have a few concerns though that maybe a few of you guys can address:
1) How does Direct Push actually work? Does it establish a connection every so often looking for new messages?
2) Generally speaking, how much battery life does it drain during the course of a normal 8-hour day if I keep Direct Push active in the Comm. Manager?
3) How good is M2W at keeping SPAM messages away?
I have used seven, mail2web, and the sprint mobile email app. I prefer mail2web over the others. The sprint app is based on the seven email program, but only allows for one email address.
With the seven program I have noticed a noticeable lag in receiving my email. I have sent an email to the an account, received in on my desktop and still dont get it for up to 10min on my phone. With Mail2web I usually get it on my phone before the computer, also the online system they use will save all of your contacts, calender so you can access it from your phone or computer, as well as have an easy backup if you lose your phone, or do a hard reset.
So if I use seven, which they and Sprint say my TP is not supported, does it still send from my email addy or some seven.com email?
for me its all but useless to just get email if I cant send it.
when i try to set up active sync i put details in , user pass server, there is a field "domain" which i cannot get past unless i put something in it , trying to use mobipush and their directions are to leave domain blank but if i do i cant progress on my screen the next button wont highlight, any ideas