Is Overclocking Diamond Possible? (KW:overclock over clock cpu bus speed) - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi guys,
I was thinking of selling my Diamond due to the ****ty TouchFlo3D speeds.
The thing is, I really like the screen and user interface so selling it on such a basis might be a little impulsive.
So, I was wondering if anyone managed or knows how to overclock the Diamond so as to make it speedier? I am not too familiar with overclocking, in this sense I meant like increasing the CPU speeds or something?
I tried all reg "tweaks" and they make it only that fast and I still experience the more than occasional lags.
Also, tried searching using K/W Overclock + Diamond and yielded no results, hence the thread creation.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!

Have you tried any of the cooked Roms? They apparently really speed the device up no end. I find TouchFLO 3D fine, but just the actual reception of the phone could be better so im gonna have a go at Flashing a new Radio to the device sometime this week.
There used to be a way of overclocking the processor on the Touch. This was great for when you were playing games on it as they ran at the correct speed. I find the games, (the ones that work) run fine on the Touch Diamond. Mmm.
Good luck finding what you want!

I am using the Elite 2.0 ROM, but its frustrating because of the lags.
May I know what roms you are using?

Performance (Overclocking .exe)
http://www.4shared.com/file/28476410...rformance.html

you''ll find more about overclocking in the "old" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413768

I'm using swiftBL and there is no lags, its super slick! It even mentions the radio to use in the thread in the ROM section (but I not put that on yet!)
The only time I get a bit of lag is if I try and jump from one screen, to another, to another really, really quick...
Other than that, I think its the best ROM and most stable... had no problems, bene using it about 2 weeks now!
Good luck!

Oszi said:
Performance (Overclocking .exe)
http://www.4shared.com/file/28476410...rformance.html
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I belive he means this one: http://www.4shared.com/file/28476410/32f89328/Performance.html
Code:
http://www.4shared.com/file/28476410/32f89328/Performance.html
//Emil
Sweden

Oszi said:
Performance (Overclocking .exe)
http://www.4shared.com/file/28476410...rformance.html
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Could you insert the link as code? Cause like this it won't work

Try mine, it works.
I can edit it as code too.
//Emil
Sweden

What does it do exactly and how it works?

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Should I shouldn't I

Question to all you with this stunner of a phone already.
Is it as slow as everyone say's it is.?
Does importing any of the roms available make any difference to the speed?
Should I hold out for the pro? (T-Mobile Vario IV) Though I hate the T-mobile branding and white screen. I presume I will be able to replace the rom.
Your expertease guidance is needed in me making a quick decision.
Thanks guys/gals
Between Diamond and Diamond Pro,it's all a matter of size, keyboard and battery.
Anyway, this is a great device, the best I've had if I may say so. I had also many other HTC before this one, and this Diamond is a master piece
No,it's not slow. It's not hyper-fast as well. But it's far from saying it's not usable because it's slow.
As a matter of fact, even with original ROM inside, it's the fastest HTC I've tried until now... (I tried almost all HTC since the old Qtek S100).
So, if you want my advice: buy one NOW,and join us with our problems, and our solutions, but always having a great time here
HastaSSSS
He is totally right, I have had quit some htc devices already and by far this is the fastest.
What many people or complaining about is the touch3d today interface that is lagging. but the device its self is quit impressive. To have that technology in such a compact device, is all my dream come true...
I really love the device, and the only problem is the battery for me. But i saw that soon there will be a battery with 1100mha for it, so i am waiting for it...
I assume you've had a WM device before?
If you remove touchflo its actually a very very fast device. With touchflo its quite slugish.
With european ROM 1.37.401.3, I found TouchFlo surprisingly fast
Give it a shot,in case you haven't done so already.
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
With european ROM 1.37.401.3, I found TouchFlo surprisingly fast
Give it a shot,in case you haven't done so already.
HastaSSSS
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I've tried all the roms and multiple tweaks. I'm no stranger to playing in the registry! What i've found is:
1) Touchflo is not very intuitive. Its show over function, and its too slow to get to where you need to go quickly.
2) Its far too easy to press the wrong thing in touchflo and the screen feels like its not sensative enough to deal with finger navigation.
3) At times touchflo just freezes, or lags - yes in every rom with every tweak. This makes problem 2) even worse and leads to frustration.
BUT..
I've found that the touch screen actually is good enough, and after changing the pressure to 240 (or even 50 to 60) it works great in everything except touchflo. Touchflow has its on finger pressure setting which doesnt seem to make much difference.
When using other navigation programs like pointui or mobile shell there are no lags, and you can actually use the phone properly. In fact mobile shell is so fast it feels comparable to an iphone.
Touchflo is ok, but in my opinion needs alot more tweaking and i may come back to it in a few months, but for now i'm using mobileshell.
s1rl4ncel0t said:
With european ROM 1.37.401.3, I found TouchFlo surprisingly fast
HastaSSSS
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Yup, no noticeable lag. TF3D is VERY useable now, IMHO.
Thanks for the pro's and con's from you real users.
I have been with XDA for the past 3 years had many flavours of win mobile devices and many HTC phones in the past and I know to only ask them in know to get the truth so a big thanks.
Think I will wait and see what T-Mobile UK offers and opt for the pro for the keyboard and extra battery life.
thanks again
someone1234 said:
When using other navigation programs like pointui or mobile shell there are no lags, and you can actually use the phone properly. In fact mobile shell is so fast it feels comparable to an iphone.
Touchflo is ok, but in my opinion needs alot more tweaking and i may come back to it in a few months, but for now i'm using mobileshell.
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Could you show us some screenshots of you device the way it looks now?
I'm curious. It could be an alternative to TouchFlo if it has the same or better functionality.
HastaSSSS
well... the diamond it self is realy fast (as every1 says so)
the TouchFlo3D is not bad , its actualy great (1.01630.30)
battery life on the other hand was an issue - it seems it leveled off now i can safely say mine lasts
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Could you show us some screenshots of you device the way it looks now?
I'm curious. It could be an alternative to TouchFlo if it has the same or better functionality.
HastaSSSS
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http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
Theres some videos there. Check out the videos on Now screen, Menu's, Gestures to get an idea.
I'm using this theme:
http://mobileshell.ppc-theme.com/page 2.html
With GSens every screen also rotates
oh, and its AS FAST as shown in that video, i'd say a bit faster.
btw..a nub question...since i cannot found this rom on the hardSPL supported list post...is this version of rom supported by HardSPL?
Thanks guys =)
h9922293 said:
btw..a nub question...since i cannot found this rom on the hardSPL supported list post...is this version of rom supported by HardSPL?
Thanks guys =)
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It can be instaled using unsigned hardSPL - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 or original SPL from HTC(maybe regionally dependent)
If there is no request already, you can ask for signed version here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411
i spent 48 hours with my diamond now, didn't modd to much now,
because i am waiting for a rom that fits my needs.
Nevertheless i really love my new baby..
(alltough most people complain about the battery-power i have to say after i did some tweaking as written down somewhere here, it is not that bad)
btw. Touchflow feels qouite snappy compared with my old wizard an UL..^^

Why choose a cooked ROM and not keep the stock one?

Heya, So,
I got my HD the other day. Ive installed alot of .cabs for apperences and utilitys etc.
Now I've been reading about Duttys HD 1.7 ROM and I was wondering what difference it was to the stock one. Other then some things has been removed.
Is it faster? Is it more reliable? Does it have things the stock one lacks?
Ive been reading exactly every thread about this and I haven't found the answer if its worth removing the warranty for a cooked ROM.
All creds to Dutty and the rest of you for doing such an awesome job. Dont get me wrong, not questioning your products but the usefullness.
Greetings// Gagg3
hi, here's a thread conversation about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476662
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hi, here's a thread conversation about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476662
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Thanks alot, searched but didnt find.
Cheers
gagg3 said:
Heya, So,
I got my HD the other day. Ive installed alot of .cabs for apperences and utilitys etc.
Now I've been reading about Duttys HD 1.7 ROM and I was wondering what difference it was to the stock one. Other then some things has been removed.
Is it faster? Is it more reliable? Does it have things the stock one lacks?
Ive been reading exactly every thread about this and I haven't found the answer if its worth removing the warranty for a cooked ROM.
All creds to Dutty and the rest of you for doing such an awesome job. Dont get me wrong, not questioning your products but the usefullness.
Greetings// Gagg3
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To name a few, because
- It probably is faster
- Got some annoying things removed like customer feedback and error reporting
- Has a better battery usage
- Fixes installed and known bugs removed
and its addictive!
kwbr said:
To name a few, because
- It probably is faster
- Got some annoying things removed like customer feedback and error reporting
- Has a better battery usage
- Fixes installed and known bugs removed
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But there's some talk that it gets slower with a cooked ROM like Duttys.
I've read it around the forums, ppl complaining over that it's slow and not that very responsive.
Again, not throwing gravel in ur eyes dutty, its what ive heard, I have no exp. with your rom WHAT SO EVER.
Thanks for the responses guys!
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But there's some talk that it gets slower with a cooked ROM like Duttys.
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Normally custom cooked roms are faster, as they are some performance tweaks included. I don't know about Dutty's rom, but I can't imagine that it is slower
My own cooked rom is just fast and stable, and I haven't included anything I don't need. Thats the main reason why I'm cooking own roms.
johnpatcher said:
Normally custom cooked roms are faster, as they are some performance tweaks included. I don't know about Dutty's rom, but I can't imagine that it is slower
My own cooked rom is just fast and stable, and I haven't included anything I don't need. Thats the main reason why I'm cooking own roms.
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i believe the topic of the messages he's refering to is improper memory management when performance tweaks are used. i've read many times that larger page pools, etc... are harder on the mrmory manager. the answer? power off or soft reset once a day. there... problem solved. i personally dont restart my hd but about once a week and i dont notice any slowdown. i believe those that do are those that moniter memory usage several times a day. think about it: if your on a diet, will you lose weight faster if you look at the bathroom scales 5 times a day or once a week?

ATTENTION: Are you tired of slow Sense 2.5 ROMs??? Click here for more info

If you are sick and tired of slow Sense 2.5 ROM's like I am, I have a solution for ya.
Get a ROM with manila 2016 and no CHT.
Try seeing how that works out. You might miss the functions of CHT but the speed is just incomparable.
I suggest you start with Standard 'Energy' or 'Reference' here:
http://www.easy-share.com/f/1326057875/Rhodium GSM Reference
(for more info click here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773)
If you are feeling adventurous, install HTC messaging here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700495
I am currently using that and speed incredible!
If you are hating the taskbar icons, click here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639842
To all the chefs, please start cooking more ROM's w/o CHT and make the quicklinks smaller (from 3 to 4).
To everyone else, try it and report back. The speed of Sense 2016 is incredible!
Edit: I released a ROM based on this post
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7384359
Jackos Oldschool TF3D ROM is even better. If you can live without Sense, definitely give it a whirl. RAM usage almost NEVER fall under 100mb, unless you really push it, and even still it performs like a beast.
Only thing is, being WM6.1, there isn't much support for it. Everyone mainly supports WM6.5, unless I am not looking hard enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Give it a spin.
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Jackos Oldschool TF3D ROM is even better. If you can live without Sense, definitely give it a whirl. RAM usage almost NEVER fall under 100mb, unless you really push it, and even still it performs like a beast.
Only thing is, being WM6.1, there isn't much support for it. Everyone mainly supports WM6.5, unless I am not looking hard enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Give it a spin.
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I can't give up Sense 2.5 tho
W/o CHT it flies. Performance of manila 2016 is comparable to TF3D even with HTC Messaging on.
I might even start cooking my own ROM since there is no chefs focusing on speed on Sense 2.5
Funny i did the same thing. I'm so over CHT because it causes so many bugs. Our phones are just too slow for it now.
I would also like to add. Stop using the WM 6.5 Lockscreen. It causes memory leaks and takes up too much resources. I suggest using a alternative. ATM i been trying out touchlockpro since its super light and works good for what i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
klash said:
Funny i did the same thing. I'm so over CHT because it causes so many bugs. Our phones are just too slow for it now.
I would also like to add. Stop using the WM 6.5 Lockscreen. It causes memory leaks and takes up too much resources. I suggest using a alternative. ATM i been trying out touchlockpro since its super light and works good for what i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
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Everyone is crazy about CHT but what is really crazy about it is the resources it uses.
Im using Energy 'Reference' with:
HTC Messaging 2015
S2U2
604MHZ overclock (set at startup and when S2U2 unlocks)
and so far so good!
Well, two thing I will miss :
- Dual analog flip clock
- HQ wallpaper.
shadixs said:
Well, two thing I will miss :
- Dual analog flip clock
- HQ wallpaper.
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I think you can add that w/o CHT
Some mods for Sense 2.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=101648
For some clocks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105069
I think that the performance increase is well worth being without HQ Wallpapers or Dual analog flip clock either way.
Yeah I recently switch to this ROM. It's the best I've ever used. It still has a high RAM use but you won't notice that unless you love multitasking.
The speed that messages, music player, webpages, apps, contact, ect... launch is amazing. The music player doesn't forget the list of albums (I've got over 12Gig of music so this is important)...
I've tried Core Cell Pro (Which is my second favourite ROM). It's soooo pretty but some usability issues and it's nowhere near as fast Energy Reference.
I've tried a couple of JackOS ROMS, The RAM management is unbelievable in his ROMS. Although it's a bit jerky and slow I find the CPU gets hammered by these ROMS.
I used to be an ENERGY Cookie junky. But the dang thing was unusable, maybe if the TPC had twice the processing power and RAM it would be great... (sonething like the prototype going 'round. the HTC Desire with a slideout keyboard)
just my 2 cents....
the only problem with the energy Reference is that the B&N ereader tab is missing and can't be loaded (well from my limited testing).... still I use Freda so who cares?
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
anshkhanna said:
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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I've tried it. While it IS the fastest S2.5 rom WITH CHT I've tried... its still S25 w/ CHT lol. Jackos Oldschool ROM kinda set the bar for me when it comes to speed and available ROM, and absolutely nothing has been comparable thus far, imo.
DJGonzo said:
Everyone is crazy about CHT but what is really crazy about it is the resources it uses.
Im using Energy 'Reference' with:
HTC Messaging 2015
S2U2
604MHZ overclock (set at startup and when S2U2 unlocks)
and so far so good!
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how did you overclock?
klash said:
how did you overclock?
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Click on the link in my signature.
From my experience, Jacko's is my 2nd favorite ROM while Cosmik Debris is hands down the fastest, and most flawless ROM (no one complains about it... ever.... lol) and it's stripped from sense but you can install sense 2.1 or 2.5 via a cab file (I use sense 2.1 because of the speed) so if you want a fast ROM get Cosmik Debris or Jacko's ;p.
DJGonzo said:
I think you can add that w/o CHT
Some mods for Sense 2.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=101648
For some clocks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105069
I think that the performance increase is well worth being without HQ Wallpapers or Dual analog flip clock either way.
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Thanks for the link, but all I can find are clock arrays for sense 2.5.19xx. Are those compatible with 2016?
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how did you overclock?
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
I run my rhodium at 787 Mhz all time.
shadixs said:
Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
I run my rhodium at 787 Mhz all time.
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Wow, how the battery goes?
Well, i've tested a lot of ROMs, so far i can say:
* Energy ROMs are very "nice" but too slow for me and has a very high RAM use.
* Jackos goes ok, i tried 3 of them, but several times calls goes to voicemail. And despite of his low RAM consuption, everything runs slow.
* Deepshining its ok, but too much loaded IMHO...
* I've tried some pair more like "kalimeo" but i dont remember his performance.
Now im using the WXC iluminati series ROM 21911, and i can say that is almost perfect.
Use sense 2.5 (can't remember wich version) and programs doesn't fly, but runs at a very very reasonable speed, enough for me, that i use my phone for work during all day.
The RAM after boot is about 56% and reach the 60% once you run and close some programs.
GPS locks in about 15-20 seconds after a boot. (i've seen faster ROMs, but al least locks)
Stable, fast, clean, and usefull.
I'd suggest to people to try out the new "simplicity" ROM. One of the fastest 2.5 w/ CHT ROMs that I've ever used! Still in it's earlier stages, but it's minus all the bloatware that seems to slow down most other ROMs!
anshkhanna said:
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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nackas said:
I'd suggest to people to try out the new "simplicity" ROM. One of the fastest 2.5 w/ CHT ROMs that I've ever used! Still in it's earlier stages, but it's minus all the bloatware that seems to slow down most other ROMs!
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I tired it before Energy "Reference' and its not that fast. I didn't like it because it was too 'simple' and CHT made it too slow. I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
DJGonzo said:
I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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Can you youtube one for us?
DJGonzo said:
I tired it before Energy "Reference' and its not that fast. I didn't like it because it was too 'simple' and CHT made it too slow. I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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Hmmm I downloaded Energy Reference, but decided to try simplicity first...
Might flash Reference tomorrow and see how it goes. Cheers
The unfortunate truth is that CHT is just toomuch for our poor Rhodiums . Till today the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used was JackOS oldschool. I just felt like I was cheating myself by running old software (WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1) though, I'm weird like that
It's just so difficult to give up the functionality of Cookies Home Tab for speed. I guess it's a trade that the user has to decide on.
seeM_ZA said:
The unfortunate truth is that CHT is just toomuch for our poor Rhodiums . Till today the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used was JackOS oldschool. I just felt like I was cheating myself by running old software (WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1) though, I'm weird like that
It's just so difficult to give up the functionality of Cookies Home Tab for speed. I guess it's a trade that the user has to decide on.
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Its so slow after a while its just plain annoying. I rather not have some dumb gadget functionality and have my phone actually RESPOND, not make people wait cuz my phone takes forever to get to the home screen.
Plus a lot of CHT mods you can get them as standalones

ROM recomendation

I am a Tilt 2 user... I have been playing with alot of the different roms out there and i find them all to be very similar. I dont know what the difference is in Manilla, and Sence. I kinda fingured out what HTC messaging is... Not a big fan of it.
Here is what I am looking for:
SPEED.... when I press a button... i want it to get to that screen fast! I dont use many apps other than basic features. MMS, SMS, EMAIL, PHONE, and Camera. I do sometimes use the GPS. but not often. I could care less about the stocks feautre.
I prefer the windows threaded mesages... not the HTC one.
I do like the Facebook integration on some of the roms but that is not required.
What would you guys say is my best option at this time? Titanium?
I second this. I have never worked with a phone that is so SLOW.
I have no choice but to use this phone as it is supplied by work.
Fast rom needed.
HALP!
yes, go with the energy titanium rom, it's quite zippy if you're looking for that. but realize this phone only has a 528 processor so it still won't be all that fast if you're comparing to other people.
I realize that it wont be as fast as the 1GHz HD2 that is out now... but i just want to squeeze a bit more out of the device i already have.
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
dragonlord785 said:
yes, go with the energy titanium rom, it's quite zippy if you're looking for that. but realize this phone only has a 528 processor so it still won't be all that fast if you're comparing to other people.
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If speed is your main objective, give overclocking a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
Jackos said:
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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Massive +1 to this. I use Simplicity myself most of the time. It's pretty light and fast. (Not to say that LBFAR isn't light or fast. It is both. It's just a little bit too psychadelically colored for me.)
Also, Jackos's ROMs are pretty nice as well, and are generally what I'm running if I am not on Simplicity. They're not built specifically for speed, but they're really well crafted and end up being faster than many other ROMs because of it. They're also rock solid. Just tossing that out there, as Jackos seems to have passed on the opportunity to toot his own horn.
Jackos
I am downloading Jackos right now... if the silly file host didnt limit me to 1 file per hour i would have already had it.. but its going now. I am going to try a couple of differnt ones... as well as over clocking app.
Jackos said:
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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yes, if your looking for speed improvement with lack of visual effects this is true
Use the standard ROM and disable HTC sense, it won't get any faster or stable.
Mirror in my sig.
Language
Jackos, I just downloaded the rom from your previous post on this thread... once I installed it, It did not apear to be in english? did I download the wrong one? it also did not apear to include the radio from the rom... but that is easy enough to fix.
Dracothearies said:
Jackos, I just downloaded the rom from your previous post on this thread... once I installed it, It did not apear to be in english? did I download the wrong one? it also did not apear to include the radio from the rom... but that is easy enough to fix.
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you may have downloaded the polish version. Make sure the name of the file has WWE in it and not PLK. Im using Jackos S2 ROM WWE JackFULL v1.7 right now and it is flawless. Also the ROM download includes the Radio 4.49.25.91 and task29. Hope this helps
FL5 said:
If speed is your main objective, give overclocking a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
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+1 to that
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
Jackos said:
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
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I didn't say that he shouldn't perhaps pick a new ROM that he likes, first. But I also wouldn't call overclocking an "extreme" tool - OCT seems to work very well and my phone is 100% stable, without dynamic overclocking.
I would never recommended an overclocking tool for a new user.
Firstly, how can you be sure that the tool doesn't deal damage to the processor? It's out for just around 2 months.
Secondly, it does shorten the battery life (it may does dmg to the battery too).
Thirdly, it may cause lockups, power management problems, SoD etc.
Yes I would call the current OCT1.5 tool stable enough running at 710Mhz and yes it does speedup our devices, but I still wouldn't recommend it.
Jackos said:
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
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Jackos said:
I would never recommended an overclocking tool for a new user.
Firstly, how can you be sure that the tool doesn't deal damage to the processor? It's out for just around 2 months.
Secondly, it does shorten the battery life (it may does dmg to the battery too).
Thirdly, it may cause lockups, power management problems, SoD etc.
Yes I would call the current OCT1.5 tool stable enough running at 710Mhz and yes it does speedup our devices, but I still wouldn't recommend it.
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Yeah, totally valid points. I kinda fired that suggestion out off-the-cuff right before class started last night, and very obviously didn't flesh it out appropriately.
Overclocking IS an advanced tool and it does impact the stability of a device. Some handsets tolerate it much better than others, but without first having a good working understanding and feel for both the hardware and the ROM you're using, it can cause no end of frustration trying to figure out what settings work for a setup individually (it's like voodoo magic; all settings very much have been found NOT to work for all people).
The first step should be to find a stable ROM and become familiar with how it works, and then start dabbling carefully only AFTER reading the bejeezus out of the OC thread (seriously, RTFM), should a person still be interested.
That being said, in my experience the settings that work seem to be more hardware-dependent than ROM-dependent. After pretty thorough experimentation to find the settings that work well for my TP2, I've been able to carry those settings across several different ROMs without issue. Of course, that being said, I will fully admit that I believe that no amount of care will cause an overclock setup to be as stable as a non-overclocked setup.
Also, yes, overclocking definitely burns through battery life, just like turbocharging burns through gasoline, and this almost assuredly decreases the useful lifespan of your battery. While I'm less certain about the potential for processor damage, that does very possibly exist as well.
That being said, I'm a reckless jerk and always load OCT as one of the first steps on a new flash. However, I do so after having taken all of the above into consideration. It was hasty and ill-advised to recommend that a new user jump in uninformed. My bad.
I haven't noticed a big difference with overclock, so I decided not to use it... The truth is that the phone is perfectly fine. The biggest culprit in all of the slowness is HTC "Bloatware" Sense. I'm seriously considering paying for SPB mobile shell or something similiar and scrapping Sense completely right now, it just doesn't make up for how demanding it is.
/rant off.
I am open to the possibility that at least some of what I perceive could be a placebo affect, but I definitely feel that there is a difference when my TP2 is overclocked to 787mhz, and I currently feel no compulsion to discontinue doing so.
Thing is, I have to admit that the perception is primarily felt when trying to feed the Sense 2.5/CHT resource devourer combo, and even then the TP2 falls noticeably short. It is painfully obvious that Sense was not meant for the TP2, and OC is really just the slap-patch that allows it to limp along at an arguably acceptable pace.
I've been internally debating about going back to SPB MS myself. The amount of functionality that it has is incredible considering the scant resources it uses. I actually meant to drop it back in this past weekend before I got swept up in other nonsense, as I found a little app/toggle somewhere here on xda that claims to switch between manila and SPB MS. I've got CHT on right now, because it is oh-so-pretty, and I am quite fond of my current layout's aesthetics, but it is a total dog, even on Simplicity.

[Q] The Best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2

Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.
Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!
Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it
gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX
I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....
Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.
My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.
My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...
I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!
What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?

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