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Kaiser: bluetooth stack problem!

aladin2000 said:
Hi,
do you tried also a buttom to call with voice command application or a phone call ?
I've a HTC S100 and the sound is well but it's very difficult to start a voice commande or to recall last call because seem that the function "hand free" sometime is lose.
Sorry for my poor English !
Regards
aladino
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I have the same problem with my handsfree headsets an Tytn II (kaiser):
i have a motorola H700 and a Scalarider headset for helmets.
They are bot NON-ADP and thyey support handsfree.
Sometimes the button on them stop working and I can't do voice dialing with Voice command neither repeat last call.
They appear as connected and If I manually call a number they work.
To get the button works again I have to restart the phone.
Maybe a fault in the microsoft bluetooth stack?
Also: my Motorola H700 has a flip and when you open it the headset turn on and get connected.
You should be able to answer phone calls by opening the flip.
Sometimes it works, but most of the time it doesn't connect if I open it while the phone is ringing and in that case I have to restart bluetooth connection to make it work again.
Microsoft or HTC should check end improve bluetooth stack!
Any hack around?
Can't we put the broadcom instead of microsoft stack on kaiser?

I wrote to HTC Support about this problem and they answered :
"Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXX
Good Afternoon,
The multi function button is the one small button with the led light in, not the big play/pause button.
If you try the other button, it should work.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
Best regards,
XXXXX
HTC Europe
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com "
That's incredible don't you ?
They beleive I'm idiot ?
Regards
aladino

Astonished!
Amazing answer!
Are they idiot?
I'll write them too,
I hope someone cleverer will read the my mail
and suggest the bug to the technical stuff.

I have a motorola H350 and have been experiencing the same problems. It's driving me mad. The problem makes the use of the hands free totally useless as it seems to stop working at the drop of a hat.
What I've found so far.
To get it working you need to turn on the ear piece.
Then turn on the bluetooth on the phone.
If you do this any other way it doesn't work. Once it's working you may or may not be able to hang up with the button. If that's the case it won't answer with the button either.
Once it's working it seems to work ok till either the headset or the phone's bluetooth is turned off.
Voice dial will not fire up until the main procedure if followed and sometimes it takes several tries.
I was wondering if this was something to do with the motorola but seemingly it's to do with the stack so getting another device isn't going to help I guess.
The bluetooth worked perfectly on the Hermes but immediately I got the Kaiser one thing alerted me to the fact that something was different.
With the Hermes, as soon as I turned on the bluetooth and the earpiece the phone would alert me to the fact that the motorola wanted to connect.
With the Kaiser nothing, even when I searched for a device. I had to find out how to put the earpiece into search mode before it would find it.
Very flakey and very disappointing. I hope someone finds a fix for this.
Anyone else experiencing these problems?

I've got an H700 and Jawbone. I do notice more crackle type sounds and lower volume on both using Kaiser compared to my 8525. The H700 connects within 1-2 seconds when opening it's flip and I have noticed that on occasion, if I walk away from the phone (eg. phone on desk) the headset may not reconnect when I return. The Jawbone has been fairly good at connecting and staying functional at all times but the volume is lower as noted by many people.
I would say that the stack overall is better than the 8525's for all the devices I've tried (3 headsets, 2 Laptops, 1 Garmin Streetpilot with BT Phone interface)

I am also losing the Voice speed dial & redial button from time to time. It also worked that way with my hermes, so I kinda get used to it...
I am now wondering if it is related to my BT earpiece (nokia bh-200 or something like this) of if it is the BT stack which has never been really working on all the device I could test (hermes, trinity, kaiser).
I allmost never had issue recieving call (I don't recieve much call while using the BT earpiece) but it is sometime impossible to initiate a call through the BT earpiece.
The simplest way for me to lose the voice recognition is to:
-Start BT on the phone
-Start BT earpiece
Phone recognize the earpiece, everything is fine
-Restart the phone
Phone & BT reconnect, but voice recognition & redial are gone
I would really appreciate of some of you could test my little procedure and report if it works of not. If it is working for some other BT earpiece I may change mine and get rid of this eternal annoying issue.
Thanks

Jabra BT500
I have the Jabra BT500 and same problem with the TyTn II.
The earpiece can't initiate a voice call...
Looks like HTC (or Windows), starts to deliver ROMs like Mr. Bill Gates does with his M$ crap...
If someone find a solution for this Bluetooth problem, please post it!!!!
Thanks a lot,

Kaiser and Moto H700 just do not work together
I also have a problem with the Kaiser and a Moto H700. The M700 button stops working randomly, the BT connection sometimes disconnect during the call at will.
I can still use H700 successfully with my old Nokia 6680, so the problem clearly is in the Kaisers BT stack.
I’ve made the BT update that HTC posted just recently for TyTN II, but it had no effect.
Fortunately, I have my old Moto H500. This one is working OK with the Kaiser, but. Like it was pointed here before me, the only way to get it working you need to turn on the ear piece. Then turn on the Bluetooth on the phone.
In case if the Bluetooth connection was disrupted for some reason, the only way to make it work is again swath Kaiser BT off then turn on the ear piece and switch on the TyTNs BT.
The Kaiser’s BT stack is not good also connecting with a PC, the connection is just not stable.

Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.

Motorola headsets seem to have a problem with this device. I had trouble getting my H500 to connect and the voice button to work. Once I reset the phone when the headset was on and it wouldn't connect. I tried deleting and re-pairing. It took another reset to get it back. Fortunately I don't use that headset anymore.

jameselee said:
Just wanted to chime in and say I've had the exact same problems with my Tilt and Motorola H700 as various people have described here. I posted about it on the AT&T forum too, and no one there has any working solution either, AFAIK. I too tried the "fix" from HTC, and to no avail.
This is a pretty big disappointment for me; I love my Tilt, but Bluetooth is not new technology, and it's really inconvenient that it works so poorly on this phone.
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The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.

costas2by4AIO said:
The same problem.
But this time with the Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980.
I also put the "fix" from HTC, I gave them back and they change them with another brand new Sony Ericsson BT HBH - DS980, but the problem exists.
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I just bought the same headset... cant get it work with the TyTN II - Kaiser but pairs without any problem with my TyTN I - Hermes... clearly it is the BT Stack
Way beyond my abilities, but cant the BT stack on Hermes be cooked into a rom for the Kaiser ?

I have a Motorola HT820 and a Motorola S9 both devices are working flawless with the kaiser.
Now i own a motorola S705 too , with this device my kaiser suddenly turn the bluetooth off (
regards

AT&T Tilt and Infiniti G35x bluetooth phone workaround

Bought Tilt few weeks ago and found out, like many on this forum, that in-car bluetooth phone system was not working properly. Sound was terrible and microphone did not work at all.
Things I tried: Tilt with AT&T rom; AT&T rom withouth bloatware;jetBTFExt-1.31; registry tweeks. Nothing worked.
I still have Qtek S200 and it works just fine.
Reading few post here and there, I found what worked for me.
After placing a call or answering a call, transfer it to handset and back to the car system.
Sound quality and microphone will be working properly.
I believe the problem is in establishing proper connection between Tilt and car system when call is initiated or answered.
Bad part about this workaround is that it take some time to push those buttons and it very very annoying. However, before real fix is found, if I need to have a long conversation during driving I will use this method.

ashrek said:
Bought Tilt few weeks ago and found out, like many on this forum, that in-car bluetooth phone system was not working properly. Sound was terrible and microphone did not work at all.
Things I tried: Tilt with AT&T rom; AT&T rom withouth bloatware;jetBTFExt-1.31; registry tweeks. Nothing worked.
I still have Qtek S200 and it works just fine.
Reading few post here and there, I found what worked for me.
After placing a call or answering a call, transfer it to handset and back to the car system.
Sound quality and microphone will be working properly.
I believe the problem is in establishing proper connection between Tilt and car system when call is initiated or answered.
Bad part about this workaround is that it take some time to push those buttons and it very very annoying. However, before real fix is found, if I need to have a long conversation during driving I will use this method.
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I agree, thats the method Ive been using, but quite annoying. However it is a lot better than holding the phone in your hand while driving AND talking. Hope HTC will fix this annoying issue.

I am using HTC Rom and it links with Mercedes Benz BlueTooth perfectly. It shows all my contacts infomations alone with call history od called and received.

Navigation/phone system bug?
avega1027 said:
I agree, thats the method Ive been using, but quite annoying. However it is a lot better than holding the phone in your hand while driving AND talking. Hope HTC will fix this annoying issue.
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Do you have a map screen coming up after you press "Use Handset" button? This is something that I have in my car (2007 G35x).

ashrek said:
Do you have a map screen coming up after you press "Use Handset" button? This is something that I have in my car (2007 G35x).
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If youre refering to the GPS map, then yes. So then I have to press "PHONE" on the unit again to connect.

Penske MB said:
I am using HTC Rom and it links with Mercedes Benz BlueTooth perfectly. It shows all my contacts infomations alone with call history od called and received.
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My TILT links fine w/the G35 but its the quality of the phone call that is terrible. Also I have heard of reports that the HTC ROM doesnt make the call quality any better vs the AT&T ROM

Bluetooth Handsfree on MEX-BT2500 - Incoming Calls don't Work

I have an MDA Vario III branded phone using the HTC ROM 1.56.405.5 and a sony MEX-BT2500 (Bluetooth enabled stereo with A2DP).
http://www.audio66.com/product.asp?id=5616&cat=1&man=6&main=1&userid=&firstsel=cat&variation=
The A2DP works well (except it's a pain to enable/disable it using the WM6 interface!) and I can make outgoing calls fine with the phone paired with the Sony but when incoming calls come in, the ringer is routed to the stereo but when I answer it the voice doesn't and I have to hang up and call the person back.
I paired my work Nokia with the stereo and both incoming and outgoing calls work fine.
I tried the original T-Mobile ROM and still had the same trouble.
I'm assuming (with no knowledge of what I am talking about) that the bluetooth stack on WM6 has some issue with routing incoming calls but I can't find any reference to this problem anywhere else and it would seem to be the kind of problem I'd expect millions of users to have a problem with and that there would be a lot of posts.
Does anyone else use bluetooth handsfree? Does it work properly? Does anyone use a bluetooth stereo and A2DP? Does it work properly? Does anyone know if there's a fix?
Thanks for the info in advance...

mine works Ok with my BT2500 although sometimes it needs to be re-paired

Info
Can you tell me what ROM version you have and what model your phone is, radio version, installed programs etc? so I can try changing things.
If you hae a2dp music being streamed and a call comes in does it still work?

ROM is UK Vodafone out-of-the box original (v1615 = Tytn II) 1.56.161.4
Radio is 1.27.12.11
Have Seuth255's A2DPFix from the Hermes forums (prevents skipping)
MS Voice Command V1.6 (i have a SE BT headset too)
Remainder are general apps, gps etc.
haven't tried a call when music is streaming. will do later and let you know

Works for me too, with the original HTC ROM.

Everything is working fine here. I have a MEX-BT2507X, and there's some random 0.2sec cut every 15mins of playtime, but that's not a problem.
Have you used the quickfix from HTC?

jym04 said:
Everything is working fine here. I have a MEX-BT2507X, and there's some random 0.2sec cut every 15mins of playtime, but that's not a problem.
Have you used the quickfix from HTC?
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I didn't know about the HTC Quickfix. I've just downloaded it and installed but haven't got round to leaving the PC to test it yet. I'll give it a go later and post back.
Fingers crossed...

Audio not working
My audio is not playing through the car speakers with the BT-2500. I had it professionally installed, but was running late to class so I didn´t fully test it until I got home a few hours ago.
I can control the tracks and play/pause, accept/end calls, and the dash microphone works, but my audio is not being pushed and played for some some reason (does work for CD, and Radio). I tried repairing numerous times, resets, and different programs, but no luck... but audio push worked great on a handsfree kit.
any ideas are greatly appreciate... I will take this back to the shop tomorrow, but I would like to know if anybody else experienced this and how they fixed it.
Thanks!! =)
btw, I use stock AT&T rom

eayuwna said:
I didn't know about the HTC Quickfix. I've just downloaded it and installed but haven't got round to leaving the PC to test it yet. I'll give it a go later and post back.
Fingers crossed...
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...much, much later...
I finally got round to trying it out and even with the quickfix I still have the same problem. My mate also has a Kaiser so I borrowed that (UK O2 ROM I think) and that doesn't work either.
Most odd. maybe I'll ring Sony.

I have the same problem with my Jabra 620s. Maybe somethings wrong with the headset itself?

Can you let me know ur ROM, radio versions so I can see if we have anything the same.

No incoming or outgoing audio. Anyone ? Anyone ?

Hello. I've been relentlessly searching everywhere for a solution to my plight.
My Diamond touch works fine for the first few incoming and outgoing calls but then all of a sudden there is no incoming or outgoing audio when I make or receive a call. I.E. the call connects but I can't hear the caller and they can't hear me. The phone still rings and caller display still works. Likewise I can still place a call in the normal way. Just no audio in either direction. Soft reset sometimes restores normal operation but sometimes a hard reset is required.
The phone was originally on UK Orange network but is now unlocked and running on UK O2.
I got to grips with flashing quickly enough and I have now tried upteen combinations of roms and radios but nothing seems to help.
Has anyone else had this problem ? Or better still managed to cure it ?
Any help or suggestions would be so so so appreciated.
Oh yeah just in case it's relevent.. The phone seems to work perfectly in every other way. wifi, bluetooth, 3G, gps etc. Battery life is a wee bit pants but I'm not too concerned about that.
Thanks in advance guys !

brianbelfast said:
Hello. I've been relentlessly searching everywhere for a solution to my plight.
My Diamond touch works fine for the first few incoming and outgoing calls but then all of a sudden there is no incoming or outgoing audio when I make or receive a call. I.E. the call connects but I can't hear the caller and they can't hear me. The phone still rings and caller display still works. Likewise I can still place a call in the normal way. Just no audio in either direction. Soft reset sometimes restores normal operation but sometimes a hard reset is required.
The phone was originally on UK Orange network but is now unlocked and running on UK O2.
I got to grips with flashing quickly enough and I have now tried upteen combinations of roms and radios but nothing seems to help.
Has anyone else had this problem ? Or better still managed to cure it ?
Any help or suggestions would be so so so appreciated.
Oh yeah just in case it's relevent.. The phone seems to work perfectly in every other way. wifi, bluetooth, 3G, gps etc. Battery life is a wee bit pants but I'm not too concerned about that.
Thanks in advance guys !
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M8. I don't think you're on your own on this one. I have the same problem ...or similar. My phone pairs OK but drops the blue tooth connection usually on audio but quite often altogether. Re-pairing is a pain in the A$$. It's definitely a phone issue as I have the older qtek and a nokia that work with my kenwood system without a hitch but pair up the diamond and I'm pulling my hair out after 5 minutes.
I've tried the latest stable radio, setting pin code to 0000 & also turning off security but it still drops connection after an outgoing or incoming call.
Does anyone have a fix for this?

...and jetware 1.3 doesn't solve this either. Installed it the other day and pretty much the same ...audio is fine until a call is terminated and then it drops A2DP but sometimes stays connected on telephone. Other times both drop off!

bt stack
In my case it looks like the BT stack on the diamond is not compatible with the Kenwood DNX8220BT stack. I see quotes that HTC implemented their own stack for the Diamond so could someone put me out of my misery and tell me if it's possible to change the stack to something like that on the wizard as that works flawlessly with my Kenwood satnav?
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My phone does that weird thing too where I couldnt hear the other person on line. I have manage to found a quick fix for it tho.
Solution 1: During the call (when you notice you cant hear the other person), press the middle circle button (which will activate the screen if dimmed out), then press the speaker icon. This allows you to continue the conversation on speaker with the other person on line without having to soft/hard reset.
Solution 2 (works sometimes): During the call, reduce the volumn, wait a secnd or two, then raise it again.

Bt3030 - Shb6100/7100
Have the same problem with Philips shb7100 and shb6100. i also have tried the Jabra BT3030.
I used and test them on a Tyten and wizard no problem at all.

I had same problem before...found out is hardware problem...sent to htc care and after tat everything ok.

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In my case it looks like the BT stack on the diamond is not compatible with the Kenwood DNX8220BT stack. I see quotes that HTC implemented their own stack for the Diamond so could someone put me out of my misery and tell me if it's possible to change the stack to something like that on the wizard as that works flawlessly with my Kenwood satnav?
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I have the exact same model (kenwood dnx8220bt and XDA ignito (diamond), same problem where everything is okay but when you go into the contacts menu and try to make a call, BT connection either drops or nothing happens when you try to make the call.... this is a joke.... how can my old HTC P3300 work with it without a problem and this newer Diamond flop like a fish...
any updates or news??

I've the same problem. No Sound after some call or others sounds play. When this happens and if I receive a call the others not listen my voice. This means that when audio disappear, speaker and also microphone not work, like the system can't comunicate with them. The volume control not resolve my problem. I've done HR and with nothing installed in my phone the problem come back again after few minutes. So it's not a problem of third part bad software, but htc orginal software or hardware problem.
Anyone solve it o have idea?
Thanks!

I join the list - having problems with my xcarlink which used to work with my P3300
Tried using A2DP Toggle which helped on the artemis but seems to have NO effect at all on Diamond
The Diamond does connect flawlessly to my jabra earpiece and my Sony ericsson bluetooth speaker

ninja_pimp said:
I had same problem before...found out is hardware problem...sent to htc care and after tat everything ok.
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I have the same problem. Sent my HTC back twice for repair but still no solution. The first time they didn't found the problem, the second time they replaced the speaker.
What did they do with your phone to fix it?

According to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431826 it is a hardware issue. The phone needs to go back to the supplier as it is faulty.

Diamond and car audionavigation JVC NX7000 bluetooth problem

Hi all,
Need help with my HTC Diamond. As my Pioneer car navigation, with which the diamond bluetooth functioned well, was stolen, I was advised to mount a JVC navigation system NX7000 with a detachable front in order to prevent theft. However, the HTC bluetooth dysfunctions. It connects and pairs without problems, but when the diamond goes into sleep or is switched off, it is impossible to establish a phonecall using the JVC car-unit, although it indicates that blueconnection is still valid. When I switch on the phone, even minutes later, it will eventually do the call. If I force the HTC to remain powered-on it will function normally. I am sure that this has something to do with a suspend-mode of the diamond bluetooth part and that this can be solved by the right registry tweak. I tried several tweaks that I found on the forum already but without succes. I upgraded the HTC to the latest firmware 2.03 but no improvement.
I called with HTC and they said that they know the correct registrysettings but they won't supply them because of "licence restrictions"...........
Anybody the same problem? Somebody who has the solution?
Thanks

I have exactly the same problem! Incoming calls work fine, but like you, I cannot initiate outgoing calls from the JVC unit unless the diamond is turned on fully. I there's not a fix for this, I may have to go out and buy an iphone again after selling mine to get a diamond!

there is a fix but HTC won't tell. they suggested to open a thread on this forum in order to get suggestions on the matter. and so I did. When I subsequently asked them if they would post this solution on this forum they said they would not :-(

Bluetooth problems across the board with JVC NX7000
drpellypo said:
I have exactly the same problem! Incoming calls work fine, but like you, I cannot initiate outgoing calls from the JVC unit unless the diamond is turned on fully. I there's not a fix for this, I may have to go out and buy an iphone again after selling mine to get a diamond!
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You may not want to fall back on an iPhone with the JVC NX7000. Not to go too far off-topic here, but pairing an single iPhone works great (once I figured out the overly complicated menus). BUT...it won't let me pair a second phone (of any kind). Once the first phone is paired, all pairing menu options are greyed out ("Search" and "Open"), thereby preventing any further phones from being paired. I first need to unpair the first phone before I can pair the second one. JVC Support is comically unhelpful.
Has anyone had luck paring more than 1 phone (of any brand) with the JVC NX7000?

You are the lucky one! You can succesfully pair one phone but it works

I don't care if I can only pair one phone. I only have one phone! lol.

Hey guys!
kind of the same problem here but with the Volvo built-in bluetooth solution. Actually when the device sleeps and I initiate a call it will take some time, then the device will turn on and it will begin to dial but drops immediately. When the device is fully turned on there is no problem at all. Incoming calls work just fine. Even though it first rings on the phone and after a second or two it will ring in the car and the device will stop ringing. Which confirms that bluetooth sleeps somehow and only connects fully when the device is fully awake.
It really looks like bluetooth goes to sleep, so we need a solution which keeps bluetooth awake even if the device itself is in sleep mode.
Patrick

Exactly the problem I described. It's a sleep or suspend mode of the bluetooth that causes the dysfunction. I can pair nokias wih JVC without any functional problem, they work like a charm. It is really a HTC related problem, I tried a lot of registry tweaks suggested for similar problems in other HTC devices, but no luck so far.
Reply to Guitartng:
storing multiple bluetoothdevices in the JVC for subsequent use can be done by selecting "new device" and then go to "bluetooth setup".

Exact same issue with a Kenwood DNX 8120 double din unit.
If anyone finds out the solution, please post it here. I'll keep searching.

Good News Lads!
Well after blowing my head of trying different roms and radios got a solution.
The solution comes from JVC stereo and not from Htc diamond Phone!
You have to set special phones To Samsung E520 and then pair device with the htc diamond. It works like a charm, know I can make calls through my JVC stereo and NO MORE deep sleep of htc diamond.
Try with samsung, it work for me, if not try with other phones in special phones before pairing!
Cheers!

I just wanted to let you know that I also was able to fix my bluetooth issue by flashing stock firmware 2.03.405.3 WWE with Radio 1.09.25.23. I was previously using Dutty's V4 which is based on 2.03 afaik, but it look like Dutty tweaked something on the bluetooth stby behaviour.
Anyway, it works like a charm now and the whole calling and answering process is also much faster!