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My internet drops when I'm on a call. Is this normal?

I've had a Tilt since it launched and have run multiple different roms. What has always happened since I bought it, is that my internet connection will drop when I'm on a phone. I don't understand. I shouldn't, right? None of my other non-WM phones dropped the internet connection.
That's one of the things I loved about GSM, I could be talking on the phone (via BT) and use the internet on it, but not anymore with this phone. IM+ will disconnect all the IM clients, which is the most annoying one. I think I've heard people in this forum say they don't have this problem. Is it a flaw with Windows Mobile itself (Microsoft catering to CDMA), the Kaiser model, firmware or my phone itself?

yep, drops my HSDPA when on call as well. It's probably normal.

hey man you know you can only use the phone and the internet at the same time on a 3g conection right? if its not that then i dont know whats up try a new rom i guess

hey i just saw that another person posted in here and had the same problem on a 3g network so i tried it out i can use the phone for data and a call at the same time im using a wm 6.1 rom not sure what one maybe its a problem with the service in your area

Man, some commas would really help..
Anyway.. when you say that u can use phone and internet at the same time - have you actually tried being on the call and browse internet? It does stay connected, but there is no traffic.

I don't think it has ever worked on my Kaiser. It works on my Razr v3xx. Maybe it is 3G. For some reason, now that I put a new 6.1 rom and a new 6.1 compatible radio, my phone is almost only on EDGE when I used to always be on HSDPA. Well, the battery life is better at least. I'll try again when I connect to a 3G network, which used to be always.
I don't think my Razr was limited to simultaneous voice + data only when on 3G.

fb.knight said:
hey man you know you can only use the phone and the internet at the same time on a 3g conection right? if its not that then i dont know whats up try a new rom i guess
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I've known this too. Tethering and phone work in 3g for me as well.

yeah i did browse to a few sites made sure it was using the data. even made sure it wasnt just cached pages. hey if ur only getting edge maybe its ur radio rom? i was getting that for awhile new rom and it went away

I'm using HSDPA, never 3G (it switches to HSDPA when 3G is available).. it's definitelly faster.. but I have battery charge issues and no traffic while on call. Perhaps 3G doesn't have those issues, I will try it out.
I do get EDGE sometimes, but it's usually same spots. I guess some towers don't have 3G i-net connection, only EDGE. Some places, however, I always get HSDPA (usually where signal strength is high)

sorry i forgot not all 3g is hsdpa i should of clarified we have hsdpa over here

I have the same problem. 3G or H data connections drop when a call is made or received. reconnects when call is over. Anyone with ideas if it is the phone, radio or rom?
Solved!! After some digging around in the forum I found out that setting a limit to disconnect your data connection will cause this problem. If your using kaisertweak go under "Data" set the "disconnect after" to disabled (default) instead of the 1 minute(advised). for some reason this will now allow data and voice to work together and wont drop your data connection while on call anymore. Good luck with your device.
using PDA plan on wap.cingular
ATT TILT
Dutty_s_WM6.1_Official_UC_5.2.19199_RTM
POLAR_Radio_1.58.21.23

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I have this feature setup just like you and voice and data still doesn't work together

pacmanpoop said:
I have the same problem. 3G or H data connections drop when a call is made or received. reconnects when call is over. Anyone with ideas if it is the phone, radio or rom?
Solved!! After some digging around in the forum I found out that setting a limit to disconnect your data connection will cause this problem. If your using kaisertweak go under "Data" set the "disconnect after" to disabled (default) instead of the 1 minute(advised). for some reason this will now allow data and voice to work together and wont drop your data connection while on call anymore. Good luck with your device.
using PDA plan on wap.cingular
ATT TILT
Dutty_s_WM6.1_Official_UC_5.2.19199_RTM
POLAR_Radio_1.58.21.23
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I had the same problem and this fixed my issue.

H, 3G or E

There used to be a mod that kept the phone on E always (for battery saving purposes) until data was required or being used, then it would switch to H automatically. Does that exist for the Tilt? I had it on my old 8525....
thanks

ld-runner said:
There used to be a mod that kept the phone on E always (for battery saving purposes) until data was required or being used, then it would switch to H automatically. Does that exist for the Tilt? I had it on my old 8525....
thanks
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Perhaps I mis-understand what you mean but here goes... I am not aware of such a mod.
The handset can be operated in GSM (2G) or UMTS (3G). Potentially faster data connection speeds are available (at possibly higher battery drain) when you use the 3G mode (if available to you) - in this case when a 3G connection is available it may be possible to use the HSDPA data connection (automatically demanded by your hanset only when data is required) but that depends upon: whether you have that service available from your providers masts, whether they have enabled for you it and also whether your handset has the HSDPA setting enabled.
On the other hand only GPRS or EDGE (see wiki here) may be available when a 2G/GSM connection is available. EDGE is basically an enhanced version of GPRS but does not match HSDPA speeds.
So you are mixing the EDGE data indication "E" with the HSDPA indication of "H". The only way your handset can go from EDGE to HSDPA (or vice versa) is if your signal received changes to provide HSDPA from EDGE (perhaps as you change location).
Of course you can disable both 3G and seperatly HSDPA - then you are left with either G or E (use the comm manager and/or the various tweakers).
Beware - some ROMS are incorrectly showing the H instead of 3G when no data connection is active and this is a known problem.
Probably too much detail but may help .
Regards

tony.wheeler said:
Of course you can disable both 3G and seperatly HSDPA - then you are left with either G or E (use the comm manager and/or the various tweakers).
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He needs a program to switch between those modes automatically instead of manually though the comm manager, when he enables/disables a data connection..

VirgilWoods said:
He needs a program to switch between those modes automatically instead of manually though the comm manager, when he enables/disables a data connection..
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yeah, that is right.

You know what I do. I use Kaiser Tweak or AdvancedConfig to tell it to Disconnect my 3G connection after 3 minutes. Then When a program needs Data it connects to The 3G network, than when It doesn't need it it disconnects after 3 minutes. Phone still works otherwise. And My battery lives for days.

ld-runner said:
yeah, that is right.
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Let's see if I get this..
You want to run the handset in 2G (GSM) mode for normal voice comms but when you want data you want to switch to 3G (UMTS) so that HSDPA can be used?
I personally haven't seen anything that can do that automatically and understand the problem is that to change from one band to another actually requires a cycle off of the actual phone. There are plenty of programs out there that cycle the phone mode - perhaps you should put this requirement to Dani who has developed a Comm Manager Pro program - his software does this cycling of modes but based upon time and place (for instance) rather than the trigger that you want which is when a data connection is required. Try looking at this http://www.commmgrpro.com/ and asking Dani who is always on this site with the Hermes forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299070
Good luck .

Gotta be careful forcing the phone to Edge/HSDPA. Particularly if you force it to HSDPA.
I took a 2 hour road trip today and it took me coming back to figure out why my phone wasn't even getting a signal; it was forced to 3G. I set it to Auto in BandSwitch and it had a signal immediately.
Whoops!

speaking of road trips and HSDPA...
i took a trip today with my wife to Washington and had perfect signal the entire time.. until my battery died of course.
but HSDPA all the way..
i live in Jersey and have travelled to the NYC, the UK and Puerto Rico and have yet to get bad reception...with my old blackberry... im damn near posivtive i woulda had lag

JimmyMcGee said:
You know what I do. I use Kaiser Tweak or AdvancedConfig to tell it to Disconnect my 3G connection after 3 minutes. Then When a program needs Data it connects to The 3G network, than when It doesn't need it it disconnects after 3 minutes. Phone still works otherwise. And My battery lives for days.
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How come I have been to stupidd to figure this one out myself????? I was soo curious how folks were getting great batterylife....
Damn back to school I am.

JimmyMcGee said:
You know what I do. I use Kaiser Tweak or AdvancedConfig to tell it to Disconnect my 3G connection after 3 minutes. Then When a program needs Data it connects to The 3G network, than when It doesn't need it it disconnects after 3 minutes. Phone still works otherwise. And My battery lives for days.
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i manually control my data connection through comm manager. i always have 3g off too on comm manager. However, my battery sucks ass and it doesn't last longer than 18hrs with normal use. However, my backlight is at full blast because i can't see the screen outdoors if i don't have it set to 100%. Wish i could see the screen outside during the day and i wish the battery life lasted longer.

redbandana said:
i manually control my data connection through comm manager. i always have 3g off too on comm manager. However, my battery sucks ass and it doesn't last longer than 18hrs with normal use. However, my backlight is at full blast because i can't see the screen outdoors if i don't have it set to 100%. Wish i could see the screen outside during the day and i wish the battery life lasted longer.
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I usually cup my hand to act as a shade around the screen. I can see the screen well enough at the 3rd lowest setting.

JimmyMcGee said:
You know what I do. I use Kaiser Tweak or AdvancedConfig to tell it to Disconnect my 3G connection after 3 minutes. Then When a program needs Data it connects to The 3G network, than when It doesn't need it it disconnects after 3 minutes. Phone still works otherwise. And My battery lives for days.
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Have you noticed any kind of lag in your device when using the AdvancedConfig auto disconnect feature? I "feel" that when I have this feature turned on the device lags a bit. So instead I have the long press end key mapped to terminate data connection and I end up having to hit that so many times during the day.

Hello
This is sort of on the same lines. I use the com manager built into the custom rom im using ( L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V9 ) and throttling back from a 3G/HSDPA connection to the Edge signal. Ive noticed a huge difference battery life. Before i would only get about 4-5 hours standby because I had an application running that kept the HSDPA active previously. If you use a messenger service like IM+ I strongly suggest upgrading to a rom like L26 that has the ability built right into its com manager. It more than doubled my battery life with 0 cost to messaging performance. If i have to hop onto the net or tether, its a simple button switch to re-enable 3g

UMTS/3G/HSDPA only! (no GPRS)

Hey guys!
I tried searching the forums on an answer to the question I'm having, but no luck. So.. here goes!
Is there a way to disable GPRS, and have only UMTS (and 3G, HSDPA) connections?
The reason I'm asking this, is that whenever I move into an area without UMTS coverage, it automaticly switches to GPRS. When this happens during a phone call, the call gets dropped! Also, while having a GPRS connection, noone is able to call me, without me noticing.
What I'd like to happen is that when there's no UMTS coverage, there will not be a data connection, at all, not even GPRS. (of course, GSM will be available at all times).
I've tried the utilities Bandswitch and CommMgr Pro (www.commmgrpro.com), but both do not seem to offer this feature.
Any idea's? Thanks in advance!

here you go, this should help( i hope ): Modaco NoData

I guess he'd want it to be automated, so as soon as the radio switches to GSM the connection gets disabled, and when it switches back to UMTS it gets enabled again.
I unfortunately haven't seen anything allowing it so far.
When this happens during a phone call, the call gets dropped!
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Can't do much about this, even with no data connection. The radio must disconnect/reconnect from the network to switch mode so the call wil be dropped anyway.

Hey you two, thanks for answering!
Unfortunatly Zee, the NoData utility actually drops the entire connection (3G included).
Maybe it's just not possible.. because to get a 3G/UMTS connection, it starts by making a GPRS connection.. at least, that's how I see it when it's trying to connect.
Still though.. I'm hoping for a way to get this working

w000ter said:
Hey you two, thanks for answering!
because to get a 3G/UMTS connection, it starts by making a GPRS connection..
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No, if your radio is in 3G mode when you establish the connection it should directly connect as 3G without going through GPRS.
It will go to 3G first before switching to HSDPA once a data transfer has started though, maybe that's what you saw.

Ah.. I get it.. thanks Kilrah! So.. it COULD be possible haha..

w000ter said:
Ah.. I get it.. thanks Kilrah! So.. it COULD be possible haha..
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If you want to get your hands dirty you could experiment with .NET CF

zeezee said:
If you want to get your hands dirty you could experiment with .NET CF
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Been thinking about that.. but nah.. too time consuming and I'm no wizkid either
But if you feel that developing such tool is your destiny, then by all means, go ahead ! hehehe

w000ter said:
Been thinking about that.. but nah.. too time consuming and I'm no wizkid either
But if you feel that developing such tool is your destiny, then by all means, go ahead ! hehehe
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Naw, i dont know enough about the technicalities of the cell phone to work with it, sorry
offtopic// Senior member!

zeezee said:
Naw, i dont know enough about the technicalities of the cell phone to work with it, sorry
offtopic// Senior member!
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I'll just get my hands dirty on other stuff then..

w000ter said:
Hey you two, thanks for answering!
Unfortunatly Zee, the NoData utility actually drops the entire connection (3G included).
Maybe it's just not possible.. because to get a 3G/UMTS connection, it starts by making a GPRS connection.. at least, that's how I see it when it's trying to connect.
Still though.. I'm hoping for a way to get this working
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As mentioned in the thread, if you switch between EDGE/GPRS and 3G, your call and data are both dropped. This is why I stopped doing auto-switch with BandSwitch as I was always getting random call drops as it switched.
ie: I stay on EDGE, but I want to do 3G for a few minutes to download something. Then I get a call. The 10 minute switch timer I set expires, bam, call dropped.

khaytsus said:
As mentioned in the thread, if you switch between EDGE/GPRS and 3G, your call and data are both dropped. This is why I stopped doing auto-switch with BandSwitch as I was always getting random call drops as it switched.
ie: I stay on EDGE, but I want to do 3G for a few minutes to download something. Then I get a call. The 10 minute switch timer I set expires, bam, call dropped.
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So that's basicly the other way around..
I'd like to avoid EDGE/GPRS all together, my calls not only get dropped when a GPRS connection is established, but also when data is being transferred. In fact, if I'm sending/receiving data on a GPRS connection, people are unable to call me, and I dont even notice.
Yeah.. this is why I really dislike GPRS, and love UMTS

w000ter said:
if I'm sending/receiving data on a GPRS connection, people are unable to call me, and I dont even notice.
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Yep that's normal EDGE behavior, if you have a connection active but no data being transferred at the moment you get a call it will go through, but while data is going through the call gets dropped.

kilrah said:
Yep that's normal EDGE behavior, if you have a connection active but no data being transferred at the moment you get a call it will go through, but while data is going through the call gets dropped.
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Thanks for confirming that Kilrah, it took me quite a while to figure out why that happens haha.

Will this allow me to set conditions for standard connection and Roaming Connection?
ie. i want to to use my UMTS connection when connected via 3G,
but when roaming, i want it to switch automatically to my alternate connection.
My Carrier : Connection 3services
Roaming : Connection 3netaccess
Is that possible?

New tilt, question about turning off data

I know this has been asked a million times, I just bought a used tilt from a co-worker. I do not have any data plans, and just want to use wi-fi.
I installed modaco nodata, and kaiser tweak.
In Nodata I have:
at&t isp gprs - disabled
media net - disabled
my connection - enabled
kaiser tweak:
I also have pretty much all the data options disabled.
Now I am still a little paranoid, because when I wake up my phone the 3G logo shows for a few seconds. Is this just a little bug or is 3G on? I just want to be absolutely sure I am not going to get any data charges.
Thanks!

if your talking about the AT&T 3g video at startup, then that comes standard on the phone as a bootscreen. Also when I installed NoData to my phone a while back the 3G logo was still there but I tested it and I couldnt connected to the internet. However, be warned with the Medianet disabled you won't be able to receive picture messages.

No not the animation, just the little 3G icon in the top right where it shows your connection.

Anthony C said:
I installed modaco nodata, and kaiser tweak.
Now I am still a little paranoid, I just want to be absolutely sure I am not going to get any data charges.
Thanks!
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I have been using Modaco Nodata for over a year and it never let me down. I don't see why you should have to worry.

Thanks for the reassurance, now does your 3G Icon still show. I noticed it was on the whole time I was in my car with no wifi around.

Anthony C said:
Thanks for the reassurance, now does your 3G Icon still show. I noticed it was on the whole time I was in my car with no wifi around.
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the reason you see the 3g sign is because that means 3g is available, it does NOT mean you are connected to the net. If the location supports hsdpa than you will see H.
question answered, plus redundant thread. Thread closed.

all my credit..GONE!! T.T WHYYY

hi all ...for some reason all my credit just vanished!! it's RM14 worth of credit! and i just top up YESTERDAY!! my heart sank when i tried to call a few of my friends to hang out and i cant call any of them .. so i called USDD to check my credit and it's RM0.01 ..man ...so ..why does my credit drained so dam fast?? i full wiped my phone a second ago and i did realized my Data Enabled is enabled ( ironic) ..and i suspect it drained my credit...in a nutshell , what things in my phone will drain my credit? man my phone just revived from a hard brick few days ago and now my credit gone out of a sudden ...

Basic things u should know about android....
-it drains credit if data is enabled (i lost rm10 the first time i get my phone)
-almost all background apps want to connect to the net
Solutions:
-switch off data enabled,but u may need to switch it on to send n rceive mms
-to prevent credit loss when trying to receive mms,download apndroid...
Tips:
-dont ever think of surfing the net without an internet package...
Sent from my E15i using xda premium

crap..when i installed GDX data transfer is enabled immedieatly and i leave it on for like 5mins then i off it..and it drained RM14 already ...holy crap ..still why do we need internet package when we have wifi?

tohno said:
crap..when i installed GDX data transfer is enabled immedieatly
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Non-affirmative, Sir. After a FRESH install of GingerDX with the suggested Full-Wipe NOTHING is enabled ... NOT mobile data - NOT Wifi.
Even IF Wifi would be enabled by default it wouldn't be able to connect UNLESS you didn't encrypt your WLAN (WPA/WPA2 passphrase encryption).
tohno said:
and i leave it on for like 5mins then i off it..and it drained RM14 already ...holy crap ..still why do we need internet package when we have wifi?
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Well, I'd rather say you may have installed some pirated software that contains some malware which is busily sending SMS without you knowing OR spamming the Internet through the mobile data connection (be glad that you seem to have a pre-paid plan ... otherwise it could turn out WAY worse if you get a HUGE bill by the end of the month).
At any rate, if you TURN OFF mobile data then there's no way in bloody hell that an app can utlilize ANY mobile data (no 3G data connection established, no game). However, if you want to hard-disable it ... EITHER clear your APNs OR install "APN Kill" (you will also loose MMS functionality) which 3G Watchdog uses as a helper to cut off 3G once the Quota is reached (for flatrate mobile data plans).
Also, set applications to "Only on Wifi" whereever possible.

tohno said:
crap..when i installed GDX data transfer is enabled immedieatly and i leave it on for like 5mins then i off it..and it drained RM14 already ...holy crap ..still why do we need internet package when we have wifi?
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The data is always on when u flasoh a new rom. I know coz im a hardcore rom tester.Usually if the APN is set automatically by the rom,it will drain ur credit.
Well, i suggest the internet package if there is no wifi. I also hardly use internet package,always stick with wifi but the wifi at my college sucks hell,so sometimes i use ingernet package
Sent from my E15i using xda premium

maliceomalice said:
The data is always on when u flasoh a new rom. I know coz im a hardcore rom tester. Usually if the APN is set automatically by the rom,it will drain ur credit.
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If you say so ...
In this case it would seem my X8 was doing some applied magic all by itself. While the APNs are there (auto-config through the mobile network) the actual 3G data connection was NEVER turned on by default; not with the Stock ROM, not with Froyobread, not with GingerDX.
Ok, chances are it could be dependent on the mobile carrier, but that's another story entirely.

again..thanks BJ! so in a sense i should download wtchdog 3G to disable any kind of money oriented activity in my phone ? and where can i turn off the mobile data?erm..i do download a few apk files now and then ...but i don't think it will eat my credit ...oh and i don't have any mobile plans ..

1 more..will 3g eat my credit? since i am only 16 and all these money oriented stuff is not needed ...my parents will kill me if i do so

Sorry, memory failed me ...
The application 3G Watchdog uses to kill the 3G data connection is APNDroid (PAYWARE!)
3G Watchdog itself is a app that is counting how much traffic passed over your 3G data connection (upload/download). Since it's a watchdog it can warn and even disable the 3G connection if you're about to surpass the quota of your mobile data plan.
As a usage scenario example ...
I've got 15GB/Month mobile data.
3G Watchdog (Pro, in my case) is set to ...
- Reset the counter every 18th of the month
- Throw a warning once the quota is at 85% (of the allowed 15GB)
- DISABLE the 3G connection (by using blocking with APNDroid) once the quota is at 95% (to accomodate for inaccuracies).
This means that you can't establish a data connection UNTIL the counter gets reset at the 18th.
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tohno said:
1 more..will 3g eat my credit? since i am only 16 and all these money oriented stuff is not needed ...my parents will kill me if i do so
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Depends on what kind of plan your phone has.
1. If you are on a pre-paid plan with NO data plan included BUT data not blocked...
Yes, in this case the mobile operator will charge you a certain amount per Megabyte or Gigabyte transferred (ask the support of your mobile operator or ask your dad).
2. If you are on a pre-paid plan WITH a data plan included ...
You won't be charged for as long as you stay within your monthly traffic allowance (called "quota"). If you bust through the amount and your mobile operator does not kill the data connection due to being "over quota" they will, of course, charge you for the amount of extra traffic you caused.
3. If you're on a subscribed plan with NO data plan BUT data not blocked...
See "1"
4. If you're on a subscribed plan WITH a data plan included ...
See "2"

just downloaded 3g watchdog ...and looks very complicated ...i will get to it later , still i don't have a mobile plan ...all my downloads are from wifi and today i downloaded about 20songs? all from my wifi ..and my wifi is pretty sick ! so my mouth dropped when my credit just went to 0 ....and i don't even know what i done
if i am right..i think i used about 150mb + worth of quota? but this never happened to me before ( i used to use a x10mini) and even though my credit is 0 i am still able to access to the internet and download apps ...so why did i lose my credit? is it virus?

tohno said:
just downloaded 3g watchdog ...and looks very complicated ...i will get to it later
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Not really, it's actually pretty easy to setup.
tohno said:
still i don't have a mobile plan ...all my downloads are from wifi and today i downloaded about 20songs? all from my wifi ..and my wifi is pretty sick !
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If you connect to the internet through your private internet connection there's no way you will be charged for the traffic...
tohno said:
so my mouth dropped when my credit just went to 0 ....and i don't even know what i done
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...unless you really had your 3G connection enabled (as in "turned on" and as in "connected"). Since Android is based on Linux the system will ALWAYS use the network interface which got initialized latest.
If you have WiFi enabled and you additionally turn on the 3G connection, then all traffic will pass through 3G until you disconnect again. This is not a bug but related to the design of most operating systems.
tohno said:
if i am right..i think i used about 150mb + worth of quota? but this never happened to me before (i used to use a x10mini) and even though my credit is 0 i am still able to access to the internet and download apps ...so why did i lose my credit? is it virus?
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Well, if you transferred ~150MB on a phone plan that does not contain ANY data at all, then it's very likely that you drained your pre-paid credit with these 150MB (assuming the traffic went over the 3G connection because it was turned on and connected without you noticing - that's why I had the "3G connection" icon added into the status bar of GingerDX ... 3G / Wifi / BlueTooth / GPS / Speaker at the top when pulling down the status bar ... alternatively you could also add the "Powermanagement" widget to your homescreen to have a visual feedback about what's enabled and what's not).

oh ..got it ..but will 3g eat my credit? and oddly enough ..my data transfer seems to enable itself a few minutes ago ..is this a virus?

tohno said:
oh ..got it ..but will 3g eat my credit? and oddly enough ..my data transfer seems to enable itself a few minutes ago ..is this a virus?
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If it's voice or mms trough 3g then no, it won't eat credit.. only data will. And no, if you disable data transfer, it doesn't turn on by it self.
Tip: if you want to have data enabled all the time so you can receive mms's but you don't want it to access the internet, just go to your APN settings and change the APN field to something invalid. For ex: My APN name is net2.vodafone.pt, if i rename it to net2.vodalolol.pt, the phone will never make a successful connection and it won't waste my money.
There are some apps that to this.. I use APN Portugal, it can configure my connection but it also has a button and a widget do "Turn the internet down" without disabling data transfer. I actually don't need this in stock rom because i can send and receive mms with data disable, only custom rom's need this.
Edit: What APN Portugal does when you press "Disable internet" is adding "#apnportugal" to the apn field, like "net2.vodafone.pt#apnportugal" making it invalid.. you get the idea.
See if it's 3G Watchdog that is enabling your data..

This happened to me before. I lost €20. Worth of credit :0
Luckily in my country my network has a plan for students:
Top up by €20 every month and get
- 10GB Mobile Data
- 10GB Data for a Laptop (USB stick thingy).
It works for me: D
Sent from my SN10T1 using xda premium

Nikkopt said:
And no, if you disable data transfer, it doesn't turn on by it self.
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Amen.
Nikkopt said:
See if it's 3G Watchdog that is enabling your data..
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Nope, 3G Watchdog is a PASSIVE software only MONITORING the traffic that happens to pass through the 3G data connection - the application has NO MEANS to enable the connection by itself.
You know, if, for example, the (custom) ROM or some software would do fancy things like enabling the data connection by itself just because "it feels like it" you can safely expect me to post a well-worded bug report (I leave it to your imagination to put "well-worded" into the right perspective) into the developers direction and not recommending such crap of a software in any way, shape or form.
tohno said:
oh ..got it ..but will 3g eat my credit? and oddly enough ..my data transfer seems to enable itself a few minutes ago ..is this a virus?
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As Nikkopt already said ... voice or MMS will not eat your credit as that should be part of your phone plan.
Mobile data (the 3G Internet connection) is another topic. Again: if your phone plan does NOT have a data plan attached, and your mobile operator is also NOT blocking internet access, then this will eat up your credit like wild (that's where most of the mobile operators make their money by ripping off unsuspecting customers having a smartphone with a unfitting plan).
However, if you don't even have a slight clue about what kind of phone plan you actually got, it would be about time you take your dad and sit down by the table to straighten this thing out.

so i topped up rm10 today ...and GDX crashed so i reformat it =( ..when i open it , GDX immedieatly enabled data transfer something about opts-in thing ...i turn it off and check my credit RM8.99 ...WTH?

Well...already told u that android apps want to connect to the net all the time. That opt thing is the android notification service (in my term),it will ask u once when u have internet connection...its not that important.
Sent from my E15i using xda premium

ARRR i lost RM4 today! wad the !?? RM4 is alot ! i off 3G ! off data transfer but my credit is still dying ..! what things (?) in my phone uses credit?? i full wiped my phone installing 11 apps so far check ussd and well i lost rm4! what is going on? or does all phones has a mobile quota? shouldn't wifi be free?

tohno said:
so i topped up rm10 today ...and GDX crashed so i reformat it =( ..when i open it , GDX immedieatly enabled data transfer something about opts-in thing ...i turn it off and check my credit RM8.99 ...WTH?
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To be honest, the first time i installed GDX it happened to me too.. How did i fix it? Every time i installed a new rom, i removed the SIM card until the installation was complete
Are you using non-market apps? (Cracked versions?)

erm..yea ...i do use crack version of apps (apk?)