Petitioni - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Good morning,
What do you think about making a petition against HTC battery for a short term?
Sorry for my English...

No point, they're not going to listen or do anything about it.. They already have the higher capacity battery released/releasing soon so they will just make you buy one if the battery life is not good enough for you.

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Mugen MUSCLE-BATTERY: 1800mAh

did any1 got this monster ?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-battery-for-htc-legend-bb00100-1800mah.html
it's about 47$
if u do please tell me how it performs ... i heard and read that legend battery isn't quite impressive :| ... i really like this phone ! if someone tried tell me plz! i'm lookin 2 buy a legend myself ( i own a blackstone and is ... about same thing : with light usage hardly 2 days ! )
Legend battery sucks. Anyone had any experience with the mugen brand?
To bad they dont tell what the Whr of the battery is.
And all the "reviews" are of other batteries and a few years old.
Wonder how the managed to engineer a 50% bigger capacity battery in the legend since there is no margin for any physical increase of the battery.
jjs87: Why? The battery can't run on a different voltage so the capacity in mAh is clear enough.
Has the battery been tested?
Any new infos?
come on guys we wanna know!
casca said:
come on guys we wanna know!
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If you're that anxious, why don't you buy it yourself, then you can post your findings here..
Can't we find find those batteries for a bit less expansive?
47 € is not particuliary expansive, but if I can find for less money it would be cool.
creatif said:
If you're that anxious, why don't you buy it yourself, then you can post your findings here..
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I haven't bought it yet because my Legend is new
And for that i Don't know it's real power. At the end of The day with 3g or WiFi always on i have about 30-50% for now.
I bought one, but it is currently out of stock. I think, it will ship July 9th?
When I receive it, I will review it and post my results. I am surprised someone has not yet already done this.
Someone on a Dutch forum has this battery and will report in a few days. I will post his findings here!
tks, i look forward to know how it behaves, but from what i've red, Mugen is an awsome brand with lots of quality products.
lets wait and see
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Someone on a Dutch forum has this battery and will report in a few days. I will post his findings here!
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Did he buy it from the same place TC posted or did he get it from a shop in Holland?
I hope the latter since I'm anxious for a hicap battery for my Legend
Yes, I think he bought it on the same website. He hasn't posted anything at the moment though..
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First review from a Dutch forum (translated from Dutch, so it might be a little iffy):
I've got the Mugen Power Extended Battery for HTC 1800mAh Legend BB00100 a few days now. Enough time (following the instructions) to fully charge and empty the battery a few times. I drained the battery by leaving the phone running Google Maps navigation. Yesterday and today was the first normal use.
Old situation: Before I had this battery, I was happy if the battery could make it through one working day. With light use in the morning, and in the evening with 40-50% left to do some web browsing. If I didn't put it on the charger at night, the next morning it was about 15%, not enough to start the day. Under normal to heavy use I never made it to the end of the day without charging in between.
New situation: With the same kind of usage it's about 70% in the evening. Again some web browsing before bed and no charger. This morning there was still 43%.
Conclusion: I still put it on the charger because I'm still unlikely to make it through an entire day. But what's clear is that I can make it easily through one day even with heavier use, no more charging in between. That makes the purchase worth for me.
Don't expect that you now can navigate for hours without draining your battery because that won't change. That was exactly what I hoped it would cause. Nothing more annoying than a device to with normal to heavy use that won't make it through one day. Striking is that the Battery Graph program (from where I get these measurements) shows that this battery longer stays at 100% and about as steep downhill runs compared to the standard battery.
creatif said:
Yes, I think he bought it on the same website. He hasn't posted anything at the moment though..
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First review from a Dutch forum (translated from Dutch, so it might be a little iffy):
I've got the Mugen Power Extended Battery for HTC 1800mAh Legend BB00100 a few days now. Enough time (following the instructions) to fully charge and empty the battery a few times. I drained the battery by leaving the phone running Google Maps navigation. Yesterday and today was the first normal use.
Old situation: Before I had this battery, I was happy if the battery could make it through one working day. With light use in the morning, and in the evening with 40-50% left to do some web browsing. If I didn't put it on the charger at night, the next morning it was about 15%, not enough to start the day. Under normal to heavy use I never made it to the end of the day without charging in between.
New situation: With the same kind of usage it's about 70% in the evening. Again some web browsing before bed and no charger. This morning there was still 43%.
Conclusion: I still put it on the charger because I'm still unlikely to make it through an entire day. But what's clear is that I can make it easily through one day even with heavier use, no more charging in between. That makes the purchase worth for me.
Don't expect that you now can navigate for hours without draining your battery because that won't change. That was exactly what I hoped it would cause. Nothing more annoying than a device to with normal to heavy use that won't make it through one day. Striking is that the Battery Graph program (from where I get these measurements) shows that this battery longer stays at 100% and about as steep downhill runs compared to the standard battery.
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Hi,
What about the size of the Mugen Power Extended 1800mAh Battery? Is it the same size as the original 1300mAh one? If not, how much bigger it is? Any photos?
On Mugen website it says:
"The extra size and weight increases pale into insignificance when you consider the true convenience the battery gives... it represents excellent value for money."
Thanks!
hey guys, consider searching a topic i think it's here @ xda about batteries.
It's ridiculous, the best battery currently is the original one from HTC.
All the others either don't have the announced capacity, or don't fully charge.
if I find it i'll update this post.
update...lol
check this guys...
http://batteryboss.org/
the original thread is at http://androidforums.com/htc-desire/66987-seidio-1600mah-extended-life-battery.html
it's an htc desire post but you'll understand what i'm saying.
@ bodjor its the same size otherwise it will not fit in the legends unibody case
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Mafiatounes said:
@ bodjor its the same size otherwise it will not fit in the legends unibody case
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Thanks, Mafiatounes. I thought that logically, but was confused by the statement on Mugen's website ("The extra size and weight...").
So, is it worth buying?
For me its worth buying my legrnds standard battery runs for 8h of heavy use and I need about 12h at least I think only mugen can provide that amount of power
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prolong battery life

Hey every one
I want ask about EBB-U10BBUG, Is it better than Battery 3000mAh for long battery use? ?
alwaheshi said:
Hey every one
I want ask about EBB-U10BBUG, Is it better than Battery 3000mAh for long battery use? ?
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I guess you mean the replacement batteries with 3000-3500 mAh, in that case: yes the official power pack is better! If you do a little search on ebay batteries with hughe figures on the lable here or elsewhere, you will soon learn that those batteries do not keep what they promise!
really
so that capacity for replacment batteries not tru
alwaheshi said:
really
so that capacity for replacment batteries not tru
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Unfortunately not! If it was, I would own one myself!
Here is a current example of an unsatisfied buyer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10857852&postcount=54
But i see some buyer say that's 3000 good battery and better than 3500.
They just dont like heavy and ugly look for sgs after that.
Whats ur advise for me, take power pack or battery replacement.
Because am going to buy 1 of them.

2430Mah battery (same size as stock)

Since i upgraded from my htc dream which had a custom japan made 2430 Mah battery iv been searching for the same thing for my O2x and iv found it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2430MAH-F...069?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eb76a1fad
Its the same asize as the original battery so no gay larger backs for the phone just longer life and more time gaming and browsing, just dont buy them all ill be getting one in a couple of days.
Since they have the tech to put more power into small sized batterys it makes me wonder why these big phone makers dont use these higher capacity batterys instead of giving you some peice of **** that barely lasts a few hours of real use.
If the tech really were available within the requirements and safety measures the big manufacturers would surely deploy it.
This battery probably has nowhere near the advertised capacity, comes without the necessary safety measures like the stock ones and will decline greatly over time.
If you want premium tech you have to pay premium prizes, and while there might be some better bang-per-buck deals, this one sounds to good to be true, so I wouldn't trust it until someone confirms the battery really has that much juice.
Just my 2 cents
Oh why not check it out?
Ordering one now, will tell you all about how it perform as soon as I get it.
I already have confirmed it works did you bother to read my post i bought this battery from the same seller for my htc dream and had bit for a year and it last for almost 2 days with a lot of use, i can't say for sure that this one for the o2x will work as well but its from the same seller and its the same brand of battery from japan so I'm confident and will order one soon.
Remember its made in japan where standards must be kept it isn't from china.
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I'm keen to know how these do.
eraldo said:
Remember its made in japan where standards must be kept it isn't from china.
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What a load of crap, any country can produce shoddy goods.
I dont think it will be much better but it costs almost nothing so I give it go anyway.
Rusty! said:
What a load of crap, any country can produce shoddy goods.
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No its not crap idiot...
Of course shoddy goods can be produced anywhere but they cannot label them as better than they are that only happens in places like china.
China regually change disk type and spoof them as better brands for sales and clone well known products like the psp and iphone and release crap labbled as psp or iphone this cant be done in japan and western countrys and thats the same kind of thing as labbeling a 2430Mah battery when its only a 1300Mah battery so im not worried as i said i already tried one of these gold premium batterys and it worked fine.
So continue with your scepticism and lose out i dont care.
And remember that when you get a new battery sometimes you need drain the battery then delete battery stats and recharge it or it will appear as tho the battery drains faster than a stock battery and if the stats think the battery is empty it will shutdown.
great find, thanks a lot for sharing.
i ordered one as well since im so sick to having permanent paranoya of running out of juice if i cant plug the device for a couple of hours....
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Let's see after some months of usage, I'm usually very skeptic for those batteries with ultra high capacity (1A/h something like 75% more) at those prices.
Producers are not a bunch of idiots, IMO those batteries are simply not good enough.
eraldo said:
No its not crap idiot...
Of course shoddy goods can be produced anywhere but they cannot label them as better than they are that only happens in places like china.
China regually change disk type and spoof them as better brands for sales and clone well known products like the psp and iphone and release crap labbled as psp or iphone this cant be done in japan and western countrys and thats the same kind of thing as labbeling a 2430Mah battery when its only a 1300Mah battery so im not worried as i said i already tried one of these gold premium batterys and it worked fine.
So continue with your scepticism and lose out i dont care.
And remember that when you get a new battery sometimes you need drain the battery then delete battery stats and recharge it or it will appear as tho the battery drains faster than a stock battery and if the stats think the battery is empty it will shutdown.
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Please restrain your self from using insults.
As rusty mentioned any country can make crap. And sell them for "some thing they ain't". As you seems to refer a lot to china. It might be a chines battery with a fake label. Wouldn't be the first time. Or the label might have a typo, like I hope your capital M is in all the Mah. Since: M= Mega ,m=mili. Should be written mAh.
Also since the battery is a Li-ion battery be careful with charging it, since if they get overcharged/overheated they explode. Li-ion battery explosion
And I know that the stock is Li-ion to but hopefully of a higher quality.
Well mine is on the way. Guess it will take a week or so, but I will update from day one how it performs.
If the tech is available, the phone manufacturers will definitely use. Longer juice means more profit.
i ordered it as well, i will post an update as soon as i get it.
13 pounds sounds good since, the 3450 bat is 35 + cover....
just my thoughts....
lintz said:
Please restrain your self from using insults.
As rusty mentioned any country can make crap. And sell them for "some thing they ain't". As you seems to refer a lot to china. It might be a chines battery with a fake label. Wouldn't be the first time. Or the label might have a typo, like I hope your capital M is in all the Mah. Since: M= Mega ,m=mili. Should be written mAh.
Also since the battery is a Li-ion battery be careful with charging it, since if they get overcharged/overheated they explode. Li-ion battery explosion
And I know that the stock is Li-ion to but hopefully of a higher quality.
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Most rechargable batterys are Li-ion....you know this means lithium right.... 9 out of 10 rechargable batterys use this tech including the stock and they do not explode when overcharged they have chips that stop them overcharging and even with the super cheap version iv never seen one that didnt come with this even cheaper overcharging chip.
But AGAIN i already said i tried one of those 2430mah batterys with my htc dream and the battery life was doubled from the stock battery and i regually overcharged the phone overnight....no explosion. How about we just wait and see what people who have ordered one report.
In case your brain cant comprehend what you are seeing but that guy intentianally made that battery explode and very likely took apart all the safety features before doing it.
My theory on why phone manufacturers dont use higher capacity batterys is cost they want to make the most profit from their phones so why pay higher prices for better batterys when they can get low capacity ones for dirt cheap prices and slap huge price tags on their phones, if they are paying mass stock prices of £8 per battery for 1920mah or 2430mah instead of £1-£2 for crap batterys then that adds up for each unit they sell. Less cost in production means more profit.
For those that want there are a few other threads on other devices for this "brand" of batteries.
HTC Dream: G1
HTC Sensation
Samsung Galaxy S I9000
There's a shock.
eraldo said:
Most rechargable batterys are Li-ion....you know this means lithium right.... 9 out of 10 rechargable batterys use this tech including the stock and they do not explode when overcharged they have chips that stop them overcharging and even with the super cheap version iv never seen one that didnt come with this even cheaper overcharging chip.
But AGAIN i already said i tried one of those 2430mah batterys with my htc dream and the battery life was doubled from the stock battery and i regually overcharged the phone overnight....no explosion. How about we just wait and see what people who have ordered one report.
In case your brain cant comprehend what you are seeing but that guy intentianally made that battery explode and very likely took apart all the safety features before doing it.
My theory on why phone manufacturers dont use higher capacity batterys is cost they want to make the most profit from their phones so why pay higher prices for better batterys when they can get low capacity ones for dirt cheap prices and slap huge price tags on their phones, if they are paying mass stock prices of £8 per battery for 1920mah or 2430mah instead of £1-£2 for crap batterys then that adds up for each unit they sell. Less cost in production means more profit.
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There's a level of respect and decor that you should maintain in this forum. It makes me wonder if you're some hired salesman from ECell, but that's just speculation and not an accusation.
For the people that ordered this battery, please do give a report of how this performed.Tell us about how hot it gets while charging, what are the battery stats like, and how much real time usage does it give you.
I'm a heavy user and sometimes the battery wont last a day. I will report in how it performs as soon as I get it, so no worries
Soulj4h said:
There's a level of respect and decor that you should maintain in this forum. It makes me wonder if you're some hired salesman from ECell, but that's just speculation and not an accusation.
For the people that ordered this battery, please do give a report of how this performed.Tell us about how hot it gets while charging, what are the battery stats like, and how much real time usage does it give you.
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Ill respond to someone in the same manner that they reply to me if they cant handle it then they should learn to deal with people better.
No i couldnt care less if you think im a hired salesman or some crap i used this battery before on a different phone and battery life was increased alot from stock i dont know if these batterys are just relabbled crap and i got lucky and got a 1930mah battery but in any case i got alot more time from the battery i got than from the stock so it was worth it.
Temp didnt rise much more than stock around 35c while charging up to about 41-42 if i was using at the same time. But that was the htc dream and was an old phone that phone got hot from normal use anyway because the cpu was almost always at full load.

[TIP]:Use only original Batteries.

There may be many batteries in the market but only factory made ones sustain the level of the needs of the phone.If you so damn angry with your battery life and choose to buy a higher mAh battery i would say its a bad idea..cause many china makers just use lower quality cell and prepare a battery and label it with higher mAh capacity sticker..so you lose your precious hard earned money on a fake cheap battery and soon you spoil your phone board and the result your phone may get DEAD.And duplicate batteries have faster discharging rate due to low grade cells in it.This is why apple iphones comes with a batteries that cannot be taken from the phone..Better you spend money on spare battery from original manufacturer so you get a good battery backup for longer time.And the +point is you get warranty.So no fear..I have made this post to help the people buy original batteries cause rest are peace of ****.Do you want **** on your phone??
Enjoy ANDroid Experience with original batteries.
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Not all substitute batteries are fake n chinese.som r gud also..Theres a thread on Mugen Power's Batteries..Go thru it..
But they are not good as good as original ones..
kidoman said:
Not all substitute batteries are fake n chinese.som r gud also..Theres a thread on Mugen Power's Batteries..Go thru it..
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They may give good battery backup but soon their life will be reduced!!
Jagadish Rock said:
They may give good battery backup but soon their life will be reduced!!
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Did u even go thru the thread or google "Mugen Power" once?
Its a very reputable company n our members have bin using it wit satisfaction.
n the battery cost is 46$ not sm 9/10$ thing..
I stil agree with u on the chinese thing thgh ;-)
Jagadish Rock said:
There may be many batteries in the market but only factory made ones sustain the level of the needs of the phone.If you so damn angry with your battery life and choose to buy a higher mAh battery i would say its a bad idea..cause many china makers just use lower quality cell and prepare a battery and label it with higher mAh capacity sticker..so you lose your precious hard earned money on a fake cheap battery and soon you spoil your phone board and the result your phone may get DEAD.And duplicate batteries have faster discharging rate due to low grade cells in it.This is why apple iphones comes with a batteries that cannot be taken from the phone..Better you spend money on spare battery from original manufacturer so you get a good battery backup for longer time.And the +point is you get warranty.So no fear..I have made this post to help the people buy original batteries cause rest are peace of ****.Do you want **** on your phone??
Enjoy ANDroid Experience with original batteries.
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Lol holy sh!t bro. I was thinking about buying this already
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...Accessories&hash=item23196593db#ht_2804wt_907
I am fullly satisfied with my Chinese replacement batteries. They don't last as long as the original one though, but it is still okay. (Their capacity is about 25% less compared to the original one).
Using them with an external charger, I have always two batteries which are fully loaded.
I use them for a half year everyday, altenating with the original one. Nothing happened so far and I absolutely doubt that they could harm my phone. The only difference is, as mentioned, that they have a little bit less capacity.
To claim that chinese batteries could destroy a phone, is just speculation. If so, it could happen with an original battery too, since they are also from china and most probably made in the same cheap factories.
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To claim that chinese batteries could destroy a phone, is just speculation. If so, it could happen with an original battery too, since they are also from china and most probably made in the same cheap factories.
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Agreed. Most of the batteries - and Boards are made in China. So, we cannot take it for granted that Chinese battery would destroy your phone - though they have bad reputation.
P.S: I read in an article a little while ago that the battery used in iPhone is also made in China (Guanzhou I think). The good part by Apple Inc is that they have not revealed to the manufavturers where these are being used since they have middle men in between and manufacturers never know where their prodicts go... // I didnt agree to this though, but the article said so.. Just Sharing..
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I might agree on the statement if we consider noname chinese batteries which are being stamped without any precautions or testings and sold on Ebay for couple of bucks. That is true that they might be of a very low quality.
But if we talk about branded batteries such as Seidio or Mugen, which offer quality and a good customer support and just see the feedback and test results found also on XDA. for instance I have been testing 1600mAh model for G Ace and its originally almost 25% more mAh than stock battery but it actually supplies about 35% longer performance. And manufacturers claim it will have 400-600 solid lifecycles compared to 200-400 lifecycles that original stock batteries supply.
Secondly mobilephone device manufacturers have no interest whatsoever to supply an ultimate device for users to last forever, and stock battery is a great compromise to save some money, and attract users to change they phones more frequently. This puts stock batteries under some doubts as well.
I wouldnot be so dogmatic about stock batteries supremacy..
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So you recommend that battery? What do you think about this one? I'm about to order one so your opinion is worth a lot right now.
BTW; your link is down and I can't find it anywhere else. I think the website is having problems. But still though, please tell me your opinion.
Exactly we have to always used the original battery.This make our mobile phone life longer.
even if u say that, its hard to find battery made from non-cheap-mass-labour country....
aint saying chinese batteries are all horrible, but from ur statement it would be hard to find one....
Is Mugen made-in-china too?
Agreed!!!
I agree from personal experience.
Bought a 1 year old HTC phone, bought 2 Chinese higher capacity battery at eBay.
Both Chinese batteries swelled after a few months of use. Original HTC battery almost 3 years old now and still working fine!
Better get a reputable battery like the ones felllow members recomend.
Battery
Well, i think the best form of taking advange of your battery is charging the battery from 0.

Battery Maintenance

Hello guys. Now that the battery is not removable I would like to ask you guys how do you guys take care of battery so it has longest lifespan as possible? I know that keeping it away from heat is a good thing but how about charging? My self I am always wait untill the battery hits around 15% of juice. Do you guys let it go zero and a full charge?
Just want some tips
Oniska said:
Hello guys. Now that the battery is not removable I would like to ask you guys how do you guys take care of battery so it has longest lifespan as possible? I know that keeping it away from heat is a good thing but how about charging? My self I am always wait untill the battery hits around 15% of juice. Do you guys let it go zero and a full charge?
Just want some tips
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Li-ion battery has great life-span No need to worry about that. Just do full cycle charge at least once in a week to calibrate the battery
Once a week? Wooow. I'm 2 months behind
No matter what phone I always let it go to zero if I am in no hurry to recharge it . My five-year-old Droid X still boots and has decent battery life.
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I read somewhere that the cells gets damaged when dropping to zero always
You can google it yourself. I did once. Found a website, it was something like "Battery Charging 101." I read that site for about 3 hours and different topics on different batteries. Basically nobody knows the real answer, and everyone is making up stuff.
Oniska said:
I read somewhere that the cells gets damaged when dropping to zero always
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The batteries do get damaged when they really go to zero but when it says zero on your phone it's not really zero battery voltage. Just like 100% is not 100% all the time. it depends how the battery is currently calibrated.
You know everybody is not "making this stuff up" either... that's retarded . http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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