Hi there,
I've tried for the last few days to have working MSN (Windows live Messenger) and Gmail clients on my Diamond.
After investigations, the problem I have with this is due to the fact that my provider (France - SFR) does not allow msn protocol, as well as pop/imap. As a matter of fact, only HTTP and HTTPS are allowed.
The only way to get these working is to use web-based (HTTP 80) clients.
I've tried ebuddy and some others for msn, as well as the official gmail java client. Both are working, but fonts are very small, since both are designed for QVGA screens.
So here is my question: do you know msn/gmail WEB-based clients with VGA interface for WM ?
Thanks a lot !
For GMail you can just point your browser to http://m.google.com/mail.
I would seriously consider switching to another provider though... Only http? They are living on which planet?
hello
for gmail, opera 9.5 on the diamond is working perfectly, you don't even need to use the mobile version ... (igoogle is also working great by the way)
you can also use the mail2web solution.
I'm in france and with sfr too, I'm transferring all my emai from gmail to my mail2web account, then I use activesync to synchronise with the exchange server of mail2web (which is http...)
I then have all my gmail in outlook (in the touchflo3D interface) it's working great (can even work as push if you setup activesync in always connected... but the battery won't last long)
for msn, web messenger should work great... or we just wait that sfr release the sfr messenger for the diamond...
hantoucc said:
I've tried ebuddy and some others for msn, as well as the official gmail java client. Both are working, but fonts are very small, since both are designed for QVGA screens.
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Yawn... search, search, search... I've explained the solution to this problem at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2426977&postcount=24 :
in a nutshell: double the values of HKCU\Software\JBlend\AMS_Font_Size, VM_Font_Size0, VM_Font_Size1, and VM_Font_Size2
Thanks.
@ Menneisyy: I searched a lot before posting, and my question was not about java-based apps only.
@ Andrax: Thanks for the tip, it's quite cool with mail2web. You can't answer with your genuine mail address, though... Don't understand why SFR blocks imap and pop. I tried messenger by sfr (qvga java version): does not seem to work with JBlend, did you try it?
the java machine installed on the diamond is not jblend... so what menneisvy is saying is not working as such...
maybe in his original post he explain which jblend java machine to install ...
let's search search search
You can go in the parameters of the gmail client to use a bigger font. It's still not that big, but it helps.
But since it is not designed for VGA and touchscreen, it is not that better than the classic online gmail app (what really bugs me is the first warning about the VM thinking the gmail app is not secure, and still the VM to request confirmation to use data connection, and no way (as far as I know) to tell it it's good once for all).
pedmond said:
For GMail you can just point your browser to http://m.google.com/mail.
I would seriously consider switching to another provider though... Only http? They are living on which planet?
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Funny cuz in Romania vodafone does the same thing!
buciuman said:
Funny cuz in Romania vodafone does the same thing!
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LOL - wouldn't know, I've been on Orange for a lifetime...
hello hantoucc
The gmail java app uses HTTP and HTTPS connectors. So it should work perfectly with SFR restriction.
Cheers
The gmail java app uses HTTP and HTTPS connectors. So it should work perfectly with SFR restriction.
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I said:
I've tried ebuddy and some others for msn, as well as the official gmail java client. Both are working, but fonts are very small, since both are designed for QVGA screen
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Thanks anyway...
"palringo" maybe for msn messenger?
Palringo works indeed quite fine...
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Looking to use AOL IM primarily.. is octrotalk my best choice for Wm6?
I liked Palringo more.
OctroTalk made you register your yahoo as a jabber account or something, so after I did that some mysterious service kept logging into my account even if I wasn't there. So I went and changed the Yahoo IM password, and stopped using OctroTalk.
thanks i will use palringo
anyone have any other suggestions??
IM+ is nice, but its not free.
IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...
IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...I like Agile Messenger also. Its not free either, but cheaper, I think. And it has a nice long trial to decide first.
http://www.agilemobile.com/
thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+
mrkoven said:
thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+
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I just installed IM+ and am very impressed with it. Worth the money.
Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.
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Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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You can send Voice IM with Palringo to any of your contacts. they will receive an IM that has a link to the Palringo site to click on to get your voice message. While it can be a pain (for the person not running Palringo) I've had chats with a contact running Palringo where they are Voice IM'ing me, and I'm typing text back to them.
If you are asking if you can do 2 way voice chat (sort of like skype) then no, Palringo is an IM style Voice. But whats nice about this is the receiver can listen to your message when its convenient for them (like with IM, you read it when its convenient) then respond via voice or text.
Slick by Lonley Cat Games. It's currently free.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick
I used OctroTalk on my Dash when I only used WiFi. It doesn't seem to work over AT&T's MEdia Net because of the proxy.
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Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news
SacTilt said:
I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.
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All of them do. Read the IM Bible - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The Windows Mobile Instant Messaging Bible
Also check out the even newer reviews at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instant Messaging, VoIP, other p2p communication
Menneisyys said:
Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news
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Thanks Buddy.
Your review links have answered my all the questions. Hats off to you...
Just One last silly question:--
As you mentioned while installing Fring.. "Make sure you let it also run the CAB file so that it is installed".
My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
Thanks for your help.....
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My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
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Yup, you will: WM5+ asks the destination when you directly click a CAB file.
However, Fring is auto-starting and the memory card MAY not be available during booting, which MAY result in a boot-time error message. Therefore, if you encounter these problems after resets, make sure you (re)install it to the built-in storage instead.
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Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
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Under WM5+, on models not suffering from compaction problems (and the Kaiser is one of them), it's no longer necessary to keep the built-in storage clean and install / copy as much stuff to the card as possible.
www.fring.com is also a great IM/voice-enabled client.
(And free !!)
I'm using the last freeware version of Agile. Still works fine. Recurring charges are ridiculous for an IM client, especially when you can get great open-source apps like Adium for absolutely no charge. It's legit, since nobody can force you to upgrade your install of their app.
I tried IM+. It was OK but not that great. Mundu refused to let me run their current version despite selling me a "lifetime" license for their PalmOS version a year or two ago, so I not only refuse to pay their extortion fee but recommend against using their software. Their "lifetime" license ... isn't.
On the TF3D sceen, is there any way to link the mail button to the outlook mail instead of the "internet" mail?
Thanks
Err... If you set up your Outlook mail.. it would work.
If you set up your Outlook Mail and KEEP the Internet Mail (as well), then you will have both of them being accessed from the TF3D mail button (two envelopes on the right, instead of one)
If you set up your Outlook Mail and DELETE the Internet Mail, then you will have one envelope on the right .. and THAT will be the one for Outlook Mail.
To set up your Outlook mail, Tap on TF3D mail button
Then tap on Inbox
Then - Menu - Tools - Options
Now, tap on Outlook E-mail and enter the settings.
I actually tried to configure the Outlook Mail account (time pass) for gmail.
I couldn't get it to work.. (for some reason - sure I did something wrong).
Tried to sync Outlook Mail with my PC using Active Sync... some certificate validity issues came up..
Then, just decided to chuck it.
Had two envelopes appearing on the side.. just went ahead and cleared up everything from the registry - related to the mail set ups and set up my Gmail as the Internet Mail again.
I have set up my Outlook, and as you can see from screenshot, it's got mail in it, however, if I delete my POP3 email, the TF3D screen shows no accounts in the mail screen...
Anyone got any idead how to link the Outlook Inbox to the TF3D Mail screen??
Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around
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Your email notification icon at the top looks quite suspicious... do you have another email client (such as BB Connect or Intellisync Mobile Suite) installed? I used Intellisync before and this is the icon I received and it also wasnt appearing in TF3D.
Let me know if you are using Intellisync- there is a work-around
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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....
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Yes, I am using Intellisync Mobile Suite....
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It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you
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It's much better than Outlook Mobile isn't it? Nice to have REAL push mail
The reason TF3D isnt working is because it only recognises Outlook Mobile and not IMS and you do not have an Outlook account setup. The workaround (I'm hoping to find a better way) is to create an Outlook account through Activesync/Mobile Device Center on your PC. I've done some tests and there is no conflict between the two.
The downside is that there is no real integration between TF3D/Outlook and IMS so IMS is essentially working in Parallel. What I am trying to figure out is how to map TF3D to IMS so that when you click the envelope it takes you to IMS and not Outlook. At least with this workaround, you will get the best of both worlds with TF3D showing you your emails and IMS giving you the real push mail functionality which Outlook lacks.
Let me know if it works for you
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Excellent. I'm now showing the envelope in the Mail TF3D screen. I presume that with this workaround, all I will ever get is the "Click to view message" message, and not the first few lines of the message that you get with a POP3 account or a proper outlook account. (see attached)
From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?
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From reading your message I am also guessing you are using version 8 or 9 of IMS. I currently look after 3 servers all using varieties of version 6. I have just created a new server with version 9 which installs the "intellisync" suite of application on the device. I've tried it on an XDA Exec, XDA Orbit (and some nokia and Sony Ericsson devices). I haven't tried it on the Diamond yet. How is it on that?
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Correct.
I am using version 9 which works like a charm. I work for the local operator here in Dubai and am currently one of a few internal testers for IMS before we launch it as a service. I find it to be very functional and light on resources- highly highly recommended. Beats all competition including Blackberry (I've also set it up to get a personal POP3 account in much the same way as BB Internet does)
As for how much of the message appears in the TF3D, this depends on how much you tell Outlook to download of the message- all you need is a couple of KBs at the most to get the first few lines in the envelope.
Hey guys
I'm sorry but this will be probably an off-topic and stupid question but when you receive an email on your Diamond does it look like on your pc and can you view emails that have lots of graphics in them ??
I'm really sorry but this is my first WM device and i would like to know things like that
It depends on what kind of email account you are setting up on the device. If it's an Exchange account, the server has to be running Exchange 2007 for you to get HTML email on your device. Internet Email and IMAP display HTML without any problems.
well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??
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well i've been using maill2web and it just emails didn't look like they should. Maybe you can tell me where can i find a good exchange server or something like that ??
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Well... there's many to choose from depending on your needs and budget (not sure of any free ones but you'll probably find some out there- although possibly not because Exchange is not cheap to install or maintain). Anyway a simple Google will give you many results http://www.google.ae/search?hl=en&q=hosted+exchange&meta=
Anyone found the solution yet ?
Noticed the solution to sync to a phony account - But I would really prefer to sort this via a registry tweak or similar.
I need to roll this out to a large number of corporate users, so the phony tweak is kind of hard to roll out compared to a registry modification.
Anyone?...
Its kind of frustrating to see the number of new emails in the notification area of TF3D but not actually being able to use the TF3D envelope function.
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M
Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim
no link to intellisync/outlook
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Hello,
I tried to find a solution, too. But up to now without success.
Does anyone know, where TF3D gets it's information from?
Best
mawim
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I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq
Marqus said:
I also had an intense view at the registry, couldn't find any link to IMS/Outlook key...
I had a phonecall with nokias tac, telling me they will release a patch to solve this problem, not only to see unread mails at the TF3D - to have the original functionality of the tf3d mailicon workin. He could not tell me when the patch
will be released but it WILL come...
...but I'm very sure it could be solved with the correct Regkey...
regards, Marq
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Sorry to drag up an old thread - I'm currently using Intellisync and would also like to use TF3D to view my emails ...
Did any kind of patch or regedit get released or worked out?
Meanwhile, I'll try the work-around above in this thread if I can work out what to do exactly.
Regards,
Gary.
Any news on this ?
Any sight of that Intellisync patch ?
Hello folks,
I just installed the Gmail Java app. It works fine but I have problem reading the messages !!
The diamond as a excellent VGA screen but the gmail app displays the message with no zoom, as if it was a QVGA screen (works great on a HTC Cruise).
Does anybody know how to increase the text siez of the gmail app ?
Thanks in advance.
See the attachef picture and image reading it on a 2.8" screen...
why java app for gmail?
if you want, you can configure an account email on diamond for gmail, and in settings of the gmail prefs on the web, you can configure the pop account for receive the mail in your mail client.
works fine, i just use this configuration, also for 4 different account.
htc-p3600 said:
why java app for gmail?
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With the Java client you can use all the search functionality of Gmail. No offline client would give you this option, except you download all your mail (up to 7GB currently) to your device.
That's what makes Gmail different from all other mail providers. All IMAP or POP access turns Gmail into an account like any other. The difference is in the search all mail functionality. You'll never understand this until you used it.
htc-p3600 said:
why java app for gmail?
if you want, you can configure an account email on diamond for gmail, and in settings of the gmail prefs on the web, you can configure the pop account for receive the mail in your mail client.
works fine, i just use this configuration, also for 4 different account.
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Thank you for the tip : I used it, but it's not fast as the java app... and the search functionality is awesome...
Furthermore, gmail handles my 6 personal mail accounts : I use the label / archive functionality.
But I tested the IMAP WM6 client : he does not retrieve correctly all the subfolders of gmail... gmail or WM6 issue ?? I don't have issues with outlook 2003 ou entourage in IMAP config...
gmail IMAP with the wm6 client is useful if you use it in "push" mode (always on).
I guess if google can't provide a client that's readable in VGA you will have to use your web browser.
yep... I think I'm going to stick to that...
I'll send a feedback to google on this issue...
Cheers.
Problem solved !
Hello, i finally managed to find my answer !
I installed the US version version on gmail java 1.5 !
it has an option to enlarge the text.
See the pict.
I've been using the gmail java client with the "large font" switch on for quite some time. But the fonts are still too small, especially when you are walking.
I'm using JBed, what jvm are you using?
Hi!
I'm using the HTC embedded java machine (Esmertec Jbed). My ROM is a genuine HTC rom.
But you're right, even with "Large Font" option, the text is very small...
Cheers.
Search here for Esmertec Jbed new version , so u can define the font size in the registry
I've been using java gmail for a while, but I just switched to real onlie gmail, which happens to be better and faster, in my opinion.
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Hello, i finally managed to find my answer !
I installed the US version version on gmail java 1.5 !
it has an option to enlarge the text.
See the pict.
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to find the setting for me its at menu > go to > settings
Hey..
are there any other ICQ clients for Android besides meebo and IM+ which both have two downsides for me
meebo: I only see the ICQ number of the contacts, not the (custom) names
IM+: you know, it's not free
So.. do you know any other ICQ client?
Use "Hello AIM!" - search it on the market! Works pretty well! And it's FREE, much better then meebo's app. Use your ICQ# as LogIn. Enjoy
Thx alot. That app is really way better (at least right now).
The integrated IM (AIM) app works for me too. I was pretty surprised that we can use ICQ accounts in these mobile AIM clients ...
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The integrated IM (AIM) app works for me too. I was pretty surprised that we can use ICQ accounts in these mobile AIM clients ...
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Don't be surprised, they've used the same backend for quite some time now.
Hello, I am needing a new MSN, really need this one, I use the regular MSN of fuze, but it input (on mobile device) up in my window, so I tryied another one, I think you already know, it is SLICK
Slick works many protocols, as ICQ, YAHOO, MSN and others, and it let you to log-in offline, and send/receive offline messages, but there is a very annoying problem with the slick.
I dont know why, but when I am using it, and the fuze sleeps, so many times appear the message: "FAILED TO ALOC MEMORY" ERROR
I would like to find a app that I can use it as slick, but without this disturbing error, it everytimes updates, I the developers should have thinked about it already, because it is so normal to happen.
Do you know any app?
try out beejive
well I found nimbuzz works great for me.... hope this helps
Try Parlingo
try parlinggo, its great and have simple but nice interface
Palringo
Yes. I must agree palringo works great, and with many protocols. Im using it with msn, yahoo, and facebook.
CAB for nimbuzz
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well I found nimbuzz works great for me.... hope this helps
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Nimbuzz seems to be a great app. Seems to be the only one with skype integration. Do you have any idea where to get the cab for Nimbuzz? The java version perfectly starts using JavaFX, but the touch screen doesn't work.
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Yes. I must agree palringo works great, and with many protocols. Im using it with msn, yahoo, and facebook.
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ebuddy? i use this and it works great i must say :/