How to make tilt not wake up when plugged into power source - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

hey ya'll, so for the longest time when I would plug the tilt into the wall charger, the screen would NOT turn on (it would not wake up) - however, suddenly, now it does...
I've tried going through all the settings, but I can't seem to figure out how to get it to not wake up when plugged in (wall charger) -- I know it will turn on when plugged into the computer, that's fine -- any help, as always, would be greatly appreciated
thanks!

Well I'm not sure how to stop it from waking when you plug it in, but you can always tell it to go right back into stand-by.
Check out the settings in Start > Settings > System [tab] > Power > Advanced [tab]
You can tell it to "Turn off device if not used for" X amount of time while "On external power".
Not a fix but I hope it helps.

It's a strange thing. I have both a wall charger and a desktop cradle/charger.
When I plug my Tilt into the desktop cradle (without the usb cable connected to the pc), it turns on. But, when I use the wall charger, it doesn't.
This is very consistant. Maybe the pinout is different between the connectors, or the output voltage is different.
It's just something I've gotten used to and can live with.

The Tilt will not wake if you use the wall charger that came with the Tilt. It will wake if you use other types of usb charger

replay37 said:
The Tilt will not wake if you use the wall charger that came with the Tilt. It will wake if you use other types of usb charger
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I've noticed that myself and I think it is extremely odd but intelligent.

If your cradle is connected to a PC via USB then it will wake. My Tilt never wakes when I simply plug into the charger, but dropping it into my cradle wakes the PPC and the PC (if it happens to be asleep).

It wakes because there is a sync notification that tells it to on detection of a USB ie. repllog.exe is by default set to run when this key is present "AppRunAtRs232Detect"
Now you can remove this repllog entry, but it means you would have to run repllog manually every time you want to sync.
The following was written for the purpose of replacing repllog entries deleted by mistake. However it will give you some info on what happens when you connect certain Rs232 USB connectors.
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....artqs=cat=Repairing+the+ActiveSync+Connection
Mike

I am using the supplied wall charger that came with the phone and the screen powers on when I plug it in. It used to not do this at one point. I believe some thrid party software I installed is causing this. Also the screen with turn on once the charge is complete. Very annoying at night. I don't want to use the on external power settings to blank the screen after x minutes because this messes with using the GPS function while in my car. I want to see the screen while using GPS and plugged into a power source.

dalavar said:
. I don't want to use the on external power settings to blank the screen after x minutes because this messes with using the GPS function while in my car.
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It shouldn't, all GPS programs I've tried force backlight on regardless on the system settings while they're running. Which one are you using?

I'm using iGuidance 3.1.
I had to do a hard reset due to an app I installed making my phone go all wonky. After the hard reset and re-installing all my programs I no longer have this problem of the phone waking on external power.

My original Tilt used to do the same thing - screen turned on when plugging into the HTC supplied power cord (even after a H/R with no programs). Eventually, the phone had to be replaced after one day it had a red light after charging a few hours and wouldn't turn on (it had been around 50% when plugged in). My refurbished Tilt mostly does not power on when plugged into the wall charger. Once in a blue moon, it will. It is random enough, I haven't been able to see a common factor as to why.

Any settings to disable wake on USB to computer connection?
A lot of times I plug my Kaiser to PC just to charge it, and I hate to see it connecting every time.
Many thanks!!!

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Tytn II not charging from PC USB

hello
I know it's a very weird problem, but maybe someone have any ideas.
Here are the facts:
1) I can charge my Tytn II from the A/C adapter (amber LED on)
2) I could charge my Tytn II from PC USB (amber LED on) and sync with activesync, but it stopped working... it doesn't charge anymore (amber LED off) and also doesn't sync
2a) I tried to swap USB cables
2b) I tried to swap USB ports
2c) I tried to plug to another computer
2d) none of those worked
thanks
Long Shot Here. But see if you can find this setting. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC. Toggle the Option (If it's Off turn it on, if it's on turn it off). Soft Reset.
If that doesn't work May try a Hard Reset But this will delete all you Main Memory Data. But it should leave your SD Card data alone.
JimmyMcGee said:
Long Shot Here. But see if you can find this setting. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC. Toggle the Option (If it's Off turn it on, if it's on turn it off). Soft Reset.
If that doesn't work May try a Hard Reset But this will delete all you Main Memory Data. But it should leave your SD Card data alone.
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that's weird, because the "USB to PC" setting isn't even opening
it just reacted as if it runned in background (it shows it's clicking it, but doesn't open anything)
i'm trying to avoid the hard reset as much as I can, because I just did it 2 weeks ago and now it's the way I like
if you're using wmdc i know under the connection settings theres a place where u can check to charge the phone while using usb or in some other wording..maybe u can take a look there
bapssystupr3m3 said:
if you're using wmdc i know under the connection settings theres a place where u can check to charge the phone while using usb or in some other wording..maybe u can take a look there
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I found a similar option on Battery setting, but it's correctly checked
Here are the facts:
1) I can charge my Tytn II from the A/C adapter (amber LED on)
2) I could charge my Tytn II from PC USB (amber LED on) and sync with activesync, but it stopped working... it doesn't charge anymore (amber LED off) and also doesn't sync
2a) I tried to swap USB cables
2b) I tried to swap USB ports
2c) I tried to plug to another computer
2d) none of those worked
thanks
After going through the trial of my dead phone, I believe that this is the same culprit that plagued me. I was able to get a new battery, but when I connected it to my computer via USB it would not charge. The funny thing is though, I can charge from my car adapter only! I do have to wiggle the contact to get it just right. My phone connector must not be aligned right. But I'm still having the same problem. Tried different cables and ports. I can not charge from a wall outlet either, just the car.
Any ideas?!
The USB connector got a bit deformed and doesn't make good contact anymore?
kilrah said:
The USB connector got a bit deformed and doesn't make good contact anymore?
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That was my guess. Mine had this happen recently so I put a slight bend in the USB cable end so that it would pinch more tightly and now it charges.

Diamond does not charge

Hi!
I have a strange problem: sometimes when I connect the charger (mains outlet) to the Diamond it does not charge. Sometimes it it also does not indicate that the power is plugged in, other times it indicates charging but the battery level does not increase.
If I go to battery settings, tick then untick the checkbox "Do not charge when USB is..." it suddenly starts to charge but sooner or later the charging stops again.
Soft reset usually helps. Is there any patch for this?
EDIT: I noticed it mostly happens when I use the Diamond as a Bluetooth modem. If I stop the connection it starts to charge. Maybe bluetooth consumes so much power that it cannot get enough from the power adapter?
Honestly, I found I had this exact issue. I was not using any applications though, it was simply a bad charger.
Have you tried to duplicate this with just using a USB cable to PC?
I found out it is due to overheating. I was using the Diamond in my car, plugged into the car charger. However, the device turned itself off and would not charge. It was a hot morning. I put a hat over the phone to prevent the sun from shihing at the phone and directed the air cooler of the car to the phone. After a few minutes it started to charge.
The brand new charger I got with my Diamond was defective, i tried an older usb charger from my TyTN II and its been fine since.

[Q] Battery discharging when on powered USB

Here's an interesting discovery - would be interested to know if anyone else has the same issue.
Basically, my old WM6.5 phone (Touch Pro) used to take charge from a powered USB socket, even when the computer was turned off.
Plugging the HD7 into the same USB socket, and the phone won't charge. That's fine, I can understand there may be valid reasons for it.
What's *really* interesting is that if I leave the phone plugged into this powered down PC overnight, the battery is pretty much dead in the morning. Compare this to leaving the phone unplugged completely, and I'd generally see 15% battery usage overnight.
The solution is pretty simple - don't leave the phone plugged into this USB socket, but it seems odd.
Any chance someone else can try this?
Is the Zune client on your pc open because my phone will not charge with zune open
but once i exit out of zune on the pc it charges fine...
ive lost my charger and too lazy and cheap to buy a new one so im just using the pc to do it....
no - the PC is actually powered down. However, with soft power switches, the USB port stilll can get power, as proven by my ability to charge my Touch Pro from USB when the PC's off.
I'm not sure what could be causing this, but i will try to see if mine is the same too, then i will post feedback
I've charged mine on a USB port at work, but there isn't any Zune software in the way there... Honestly, I don't sync through USB, so I never noticed this, but at work I have used the USB port on our camera system to charge my phone...
most likely cause is the fact that the computer reduces the amount of current send to the usb port when powered down.
normaly all that is needed is a move of the mouse or a key press to power the computer back on.
now both the keyboard and mouse are low power devices.
now my guess is that the touch pro needs less power in standby then the hd7, and therefore the first will charge and the second will drain.
so to solve this question you need to measure the power comming from the computer in standby (powered on it's 500mA), and both the phones in standby mode.
plopper
Here's what I find odd:
The phone will not charge unless powered on. For example, if I have the phone turned off, and plug it into the wall charger it came with, the phone boots up. It will NOT charge while turned off.
Anyone else notice this?
jimbonics said:
Here's what I find odd:
The phone will not charge unless powered on. For example, if I have the phone turned off, and plug it into the wall charger it came with, the phone boots up. It will NOT charge while turned off.
Anyone else notice this?
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i saw someone mention that the led won't turn on during charging while the phone is turned off.
sadly he didn't wait long enough to see if the led turns on when the battery is fully charged.
also i have no idea which model he was using.
plopper
I posted earlier about charging issues on the HD7: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849548
What I found was that if you have the HD7 plugged into the USB port and then you suspend/shut down the PC, it'll stop charging (while all other phones I've used - iPhones, HD2, etc. - will keep charging).
Once you suspend/shut down, you need to then unplug and replug the HD7, and it should start charging again. Not sure why this happens, but I need to do it every night, otherwise I have a dead phone in the morning.
jimbonics said:
Here's what I find odd:
The phone will not charge unless powered on. For example, if I have the phone turned off, and plug it into the wall charger it came with, the phone boots up. It will NOT charge while turned off.
Anyone else notice this?
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That is apparently a "feature" of WP7-- the phone will automatically turn on when plugged in.

USB port issues

I appear to be having wired issues related to the USB port as has been previously reported on the Galaxy S2.
When not plugged in to anything, it constantly says it is charging. It will not let me select between USB debugging mode as it says the cable is connected.
Despite it's belief that it is charging, when I actually plug it in to the mains to charge, it doesnt charge!!
If I power off the device, it shuts down correctly, however it will constantly switch between the grey battery icon, then a almost full green one, then off. It then wont allow me to turn on the device. Ive tried plugging it in to the mains (but I guess that as it wont charge this way, this is why it wont let me turn it on this way either) the only way I can boot it up is holding vol up, middle button and power together for 10 seconds or so. It then goes to CWM recover where I can reboot the device
If I plug in a jig, that allows me to connect a USB flash drive, it all seems to work OK. it no longer says it's charging, and i'm able to mount the drive.
The only way I can actually make it charge, is by plugging in to a PC.
Im very careful with my USB connectors, and I can only think that slight dampness may have entered as the phone has been with me in the bathroom during showers.
I dont want to send my phone in for repair, my first plan is to wait it out and hopefully any moisture dries out. Ive tried cleaning the inside of the USB port, but it makes no difference.
If I changed the USB port myself, a) is that a hard task, b) would it solve my issue?
I had a very similar problem with my note.
Solution was to take out the battery and leave the cover off, in a dry p;ace over night. It could definitely be related to dampness in your phone.

Tasker In-Car power issue

I have built a Nexus 7 into my car and I have a small issue.
I need a tasker profile:
When I turn the car on, the screen turns on and music plays.
When i turn the car off, the music stops and the screen turns off. (along with other stuff)
I have created a "test" version of all this so when I connect a power cable (i.e when charging) it turns the screen on and plays music.
When I disconnect the USB (i.e. stops charging) the screen goes off, music stops, bluetooth off etc and all this works fine.
However, the USB will always be connected with power coming through so I cannot use this option. I need another way to detect if the car is on and when it turns off so I can run the correct tasks.
One option i thought of is buy a wireless charger and build it into the car. When my phone is placed on the charger, send a text message to the tablet to turn it on, and when i turn the car off the charging will stop, then the phone will send a text to the tablet to turn the screen off etc.
However after purchasing the wireless charger, i realised everytime i get a call or take my phone of the charger for whatever reason, the screen will go off and music will stop, so this isnt an option either.
So the question is, what can i do so tasker can detect that the car is on or off so the nexus can perform the tasks?
Hope that makes sense
idi_idi said:
ISo the question is, what can i do so tasker can detect that the car is on or off so the nexus can perform the tasks?
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You do realize that you really have two problems, right? The Nexus 7 will not know when the car is started, or stopped. Unless you can disconnect the power, manually etc.. If you can do that, you can send a command in fastboot to force the N7 to power up when power is connected, otherwise you'd have to boot it up manually.
You could unplug the USB charger.. Or have the tablet turn off after N hours of inactivity, although how do you detect "new" activity if there's no change when the car is started.
If your car has bluetooth, you could detect that as the "turn off" task perhaps, but turning on is probably your bigger issue.
Will the wireless charger idea work?
idi_idi said:
Will the wireless charger idea work?
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No idea what you mean by wireless charger (2012 model has no wireless charging), or how you'd control it with the phone. And unless your tablet is a 3g one, I don't know how you'd directly communicate with it either.
I just put my phone back to stock so I had to uninstall Tasker, however your tablet does not pull power once the car is off correct? I had a power based one as well, I remember testing it with a surge protector. I could leave the USB connected but flip the surge protector on and off (to mimic power to the phone being halted). To my knowledge when the car is off your USB shouldn't be drawing power therefore you could run the profile off that. Export the profile and post here. I'd like to help test it.
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elpeterson said:
To my knowledge when the car is off your USB shouldn't be drawing power therefore you could run the profile off that. Export the profile and post here. I'd like to help test it.
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My last four cars (current and previous of wife and my cars) the lighter plug stays powered when the engine is off.
I think it's getting increasingly common for the plugs to stay powered. So there's no way for the tablet to know the car is off unless the car has bluetooth and you can look for that.
khaytsus said:
My last four cars (current and previous of wife and my cars) the lighter plug stays powered when the engine is off.
I think it's getting increasingly common for the plugs to stay powered. So there's no way for the tablet to know the car is off unless the car has bluetooth and you can look for that.
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I have actually found the exact opposite to me true. My wife's 2014 Pilot goes off as well as my 2012 Veloster whereas my 2001 Sable and her 2007 Passat left them on. I'm not sure if you can resolve your issue then. I'll keep looking into it. You could trigger it based on speed I think
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elpeterson said:
I have actually found the exact opposite to me true. My wife's 2014 Pilot goes off as well as my 2012 Veloster whereas my 2001 Sable and her 2007 Passat left them on. I'm not sure if you can resolve your issue then. I'll keep looking into it. You could trigger it based on speed I think
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I suppose that could work.. Find out the speed for several periods in a row, if it's zero, assume it's time to shut down. But that'd mean it's playing music etc during that period etc.
IMO bluetooth, or a plug he can turn off, is really the only way if his USB is powered up all of the time.
Also remember, he has no way to know when to power UP either. I still maintain that's the bigger problem, especially if it's a fixed install and he can't poke the power button
At the moment, its connected so when the car turns on, the USB is powered up and when the car turns off, the power in the USB stops. So at the moment, my tasker profile works on "when charging" do Task A, when not charging do Task B. And it all works fine at the moment.
However I am having issues with charging, (The device is not charging fast enough when turned on and the battery drains over a couple of days) so i planned to keep it always charging, so the power in the USB will always be there regardless of if the car is on or off. So i cant use the "when charging" on tasker anymore. So i needed a new way to it to figure out when i got in the car.
Here are my ideas:
1. Have a wireless charger in my car for my phone. (Not the tablet). When i get in the car, i could put my phone on the charger, have the phone send a text to the tablet to turn it on. When i remove the phone from the charger, send a text to the tablet to turn it off. Simples
2. Connect a wifi router in the boot or something and have it start up only when the car starts, and turn off with the car. It doesn't have to be connected to the internet, it just needs to power up. Then i can do a 'When wifi near' on tasker to see if the car is off or on, and turn the screen off accordingly.
3. Connect the tablet to my phones bluetooth. Whenever i get in the car, they will connect and the tablet will power on. when i leave the car, it will power off. (Not the best option since it will stay on even if i am near the car)
4. Similar to option 1, but have a nfc sticker in the car. when i swipe my phone on it, it communicates with the tablet and turns it on, n then off when required. but i dont want to do this since i know i am going to forget to turn it off one day.
I don't really want to do the speed option, since i want it to turn on as soon as i enter the car, not when i start driving, and i want to be able to park up and use it when i need to put an addess in the sat nav etc.
idi_idi said:
However I am having issues with charging, (The device is not charging fast enough when turned on and the battery drains over a couple of days)
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If your charger isn't charging fast enough, you're using a crappy charger or one that isn't designed for Android. If your car has a built-in USB port, those are usually super slow, maybe 500mA, most less.
Anyway, glad to hear that your power follows the car state, that makes it all simple.
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If your charger isn't charging fast enough, you're using a crappy charger or one that isn't designed for Android. If your car has a built-in USB port, those are usually super slow, maybe 500mA, most less.
Anyway, glad to hear that your power follows the car state, that makes it all simple.
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I've tried about 20 different chargers, up to 2.5amps. The problem isnt the charger. The problem is i dont drive the car long enough to give it time to charge. So if i drive the car for about half an hour a day, for the other 23.5 hours, its on standby. so the battery is always going to go less. So thats why I plan to connect the charger directly to the battery so it will always be charging.
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I've tried about 20 different chargers, up to 2.5amps. The problem isnt the charger. The problem is i dont drive the car long enough to give it time to charge. So if i drive the car for about half an hour a day, for the other 23.5 hours, its on standby. so the battery is always going to go less. So thats why I plan to connect the charger directly to the battery so it will always be charging.
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Oh, I thought you had the tablet turning off when the car went off. If I were you, I'd set up a profile that turns off the tablet if it hasn't had power in a few hours, pretty simple to do. On Power, set a time var, every so often check that time var to see if it exceeds your threshold, and power down if so.
If you don't have much installed, it should be a fairly quick power-up, especially the plug goes hot when you start the car.
BTW I hope you're considering cold and heat if you're leaving the tablet in the car. Leaving it in the heat all summer will will the battery.
You can use Timur's kernel, it senses power to turn N7 on or deep sleep it.
Also charges N7 while using OTG.
It;s designed for car install.
khaytsus said:
If your charger isn't charging fast enough, you're using a crappy charger or one that isn't designed for Android. If your car has a built-in USB port, those are usually super slow, maybe 500mA, most less.
Anyway, glad to hear that your power follows the car state, that makes it all simple.
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I agree, you need to get at least a 2A charger for your car. My wife would watch Netflix on long drives and my car USB port or the normal USB charger I got for the cigarette lighter worked until I up'd it to a 2A charger. I can have screen on for hours while streaming video and still fully charge the tablet in a reasonable amount of time.

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