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I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum
Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen
Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....
There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
Jon12345 said:
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!
Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.
If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.
Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa
Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!
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And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.
Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.
Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
RingTone01 said:
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.
Well basically I may be getting a HTC diamond, but would like to know some things from people who actually own them.
My mum has the HTC and has got it replaced so now its a brand new phone. She has offered to switch for my Nokia N95 but Im unsure. I am trying it this weekend to get better used to it and see if I want to switch.
All I hear from people that don't own WM is WM sucks I hate it blah blah blah. Which I pretty much know is complete bollocks.
I just really want to know how easy it is to live with day to day.
I am only 15 and do text a lot and am quite concerned about the screen size and no physical keys.
And what sort of customization is there?
Haha sorry for being all over the place but answers are appreciated!
Thanks, Ben.
there are software keyboards like phonepad which does t9
if I were you I would try it out and see if I liked it
thanks, I will give that a try.
I have a few more questions though:
Where can I get a 3.5mm jack for it? (UK) I bought a cheap one off ebay that failed.
Also, Whats all the ROM thing about? Is there an Easy F.A.Q about it all?
Thanks, Ben
for a 15yo who texts a lot, I'd recommend getting the touch pro or something else with a physical keyboard. I don't think the Diamond is for casual users because it's very finnicky and a lot of customization is needed if you really want to enjoy the phone. This is not a knock on the Diamond at all because I LOVE mine, but I'm giving you advice that you might not be enjoying it as much because at 15yo, I wouldnt like flashing ROMs or installing cabs anyway. But hey, who knows, it might be different in your case =)
Well I do love technology so learning is all good for me when flashing ROM's I'm always interested in that kind of thing.
As for custumisation I love that sort of things and can spend hours and hours just fiddling with tech.
Its just really the SMS which Im worried about. But I suppose when I break it down I only send 20/30 texts a day so maybe I could live.
Ahh I dont know. I guess living with it this weekend will help. The device is insured anyway so even if I brick it a new one will be sent right away
what is WinMo 6.5 all about? Its not even released yet? Is it worth upgrading or not?
khsbenny said:
Well basically I may be getting a HTC diamond, but would like to know some things from people who actually own them.
My mum has the HTC and has got it replaced so now its a brand new phone. She has offered to switch for my Nokia N95 but Im unsure. I am trying it this weekend to get better used to it and see if I want to switch.
All I hear from people that don't own WM is WM sucks I hate it blah blah blah. Which I pretty much know is complete bollocks.
I just really want to know how easy it is to live with day to day.
I am only 15 and do text a lot and am quite concerned about the screen size and no physical keys.
And what sort of customization is there?
Haha sorry for being all over the place but answers are appreciated!
Thanks, Ben.
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Well, i'm a "new" windows mobile user (3 months), before that i had a n95, so here's what i think: The diamond screen is bigger and has double the definition than the n95 one. The Diamond screen keyboard (EzInput) is incredible, at first you feel strange, but after about a week you get used and is really easy to type (even with my fat fingers ), since it's a "full keyboard".
The factory Rom for the diamond is a little slower than the symbiam (n95 OS), but with some modifications from this forum it becomes much faster, but still crashes one or other time, and you have to turn it off/on (about once a week, when i'm doing too much stuff at the same time and there's no more free memory. nothing to worry about).
The N95 is much better for music (with the stereo speakers and dedicated keys) and photos (flash, higher resolution), but for all the other things you can't even compare it. On the diamond, the web navigation and the GPS are much better, using to edit documents on the office is really easier with the touch screen, seeing your e-mails is faster and the "phone" functions are really simple.
Now the best thing about WinMo are the apps you can download. You have great programs to do quite about anything. Like a PC remote controller, a torrent downloader, a podcast and RSS reader, and games like a emulator of Snes and Playstation 1, quake 3 arena, Call of Duty 2, etc.
As for customisation, it's praticcaly infinite. you can use and write different today plugins and screens, and make it look like anything, from your Pc desktop to an Iphone, just take a look at some posts here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428463 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508429
Just for you to be sure i don't work for microsoft , don't be fooled: out of factory the diamond is slow, doesn't has so many good Apps and has an unstable system. The cutomization and tweaks are the things that make all the difference! Good luck with your choice.
Oh, and i'm 22 and i don't work with my mobile or with computers, so i just use Winmo cause it's a lot of fun.
Well day 1 and Im loving it. Looks like I'll be keeping this
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just look arround on this forum and you will find allot of interresting programs and addons for your phone
all things makes live a little easyer
I switched from a Samsung Jack ("Blackjack II" in the states) to this phone because the Samsung wasn't compatible with a lot of the WM apps I wanted to use. The Diamond does a hell of a lot more and does it a lot better. I will say, though, that texting is much more of a pain when compared to a phone with a full hardware keyboard. I mess up a lot unless I'm using a stylus. Maybe it's just me.
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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You firmware version can not be verified until you verify it yourself DUH. What a dumb question. Your ROM IS YOUR VERSION. If you update the phone with the latest official ROM, and then flash a different ROM than you obviously lose the official ROM so update is pointless.
Phone lasts 3 days on standby now. It lasts 4-5 hours on usage.
No risks at all. But if you're not good at doing simple stuff such as flashing ROM don't get into it. PLEASE! It took me 24 hours NON STOP too help some clueless person flash his NIKE because he just kept doing it wrong and yet I gave him straightforward and in depth instructions. Other than that, flashing your from or updating your phone with an official ROM will delete all personal data.
If hard spl bricked your phone than you're obviously doing something wrong. If it bricked your phone, the developers wouldn't even release hard spl....
I won't suggest any Apps.
Yes, CAB files work on 6.5.
Don't get an iPhone. Don't get Xperia. Touch Pro2 is much better (especially they keyboard).
ATT does not offer. But you can buy the American version that works well on ATT's 3G.
Since when does a phone need an accelerometer to rotate? And yes you can use programs to rotate the screen (even tho accelerometer is not necessay....i guess you have absolutely no idea what an accelerometer is). But yes you can assign shortcuts or modify physical buttons. One program for example is AEBPlus.
All Xperia's can be hard spl'd.
NeoXerO said:
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
No you can flash it with a custom rom whenever you like.
On average, how long would the battery last?
On average with a fair bit of wifi usage it'll last 3-4 days, less with constant voice usage.
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
Probably 6 days without using it
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
To be honest i've flashed loads of phones and even if it bricks it temporarily you can always reflash it. Windows 7 makes no difference if you flash from the memory card.
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
I would guess if this happens you can always reflash the standard rom, however I have no experiance with this.
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I've got no problems with the volume but there are probably volume increasers out there.
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
The trick with reflashing is going for the best rom for you. I use the bare version of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891. However with most roms you will loose the panels but honestly I dont think that its much of a sacrifice.
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
No in my experience the case is pretty tough but if you put it in the same pocket as your keys bits of the sony logo will come off. Having said that the build quality is miles better than any other phone with a similar spec.
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
All cabs i've installed have worked on 6.5 fine.
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
The iphone is a good bit of kit but it depends on what you want to use it for. If you want a replacement mp3 player and phone and you like itunes the the iphone is probably best for you. If you prefer a phone that you can customise use any software on or simply prefer not to be locked to apple the go for the X1. You must bare in mind though that unless you need to get a new phone now there are a load of new winmo phones about to come out with better specs.
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Sorry mate im from the UK.
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Im fairly sure that you can set a button to change from portrait to landscape, at least there are with my old hermes.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
As far as I know there is no way that a winmo phone can be "locked" to prevent it from being flashed.
Thanks in advance.
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No problem
I've just remembered a good video guide to flash your rom is here if your still curious: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497511
Thanks a lot for your input guys, it really helped. One last thing. When people say that Manila is "integrated" with WinMo, does that mean that Manila acts as a separate panel (like I've seen in many videos) or is there something I'm missing?
"Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?"
The brushed metal backside battery cover on my black Xperia started picking scratches and metal base started showing through the edges almost within a week of normal usage. A crack on the casing also developed within a month. After just a month of using my X1 carefully, it looks like a year old worn and torn down 50 cent phone. Stay away from X1... HTC Pro2 is a much better deal...
I would get the iphone. I'm seriously considering the iphone as the sony ericsson repair team are useless.
NeoXerO said:
Ok, so I had the choice between the iPhone and the X1, and I think the X1 would we better for me as I would be able to flash custom roms on it and fix mos t of the lag. I'm about to order the X1 off of ebay. I live in the US and there at&t doesn't carry the X1 AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, I have a bunch of questions regarding ROMs and other things.
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated?
On average, how long would the battery last?
I heard it's supposed to have like 6 days standby time.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
I heard that Hard-SPL-ing it could "brick" your phone. I also heard that even after Hard-SPL, if you flash a custom ROM wrong or one that's messed up you could render your phone useless forever. If this is true, what are the precautions I should take before flashing my ROM (I plan to do it when I first get my phone, as I know it's laggy. I'm also running windows 7 so please tell me if I need to run XP or Vista for it to work)
Is there a way to fix a bricked phone?
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know)
I already know of some, like Opera Mini, Touchflo 3d (comes with custom ROMs AFAIK) and Sbp mobile shell.
Even after flashing a custom ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524043 , would it still be laggy when changing panels or while loading apps?
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?
Do cab files that work on WM 6.1 also work on WM 6.5? Because I saw this: http://xperiancers.com/2009/04/22/how-to-use-your-xperia-x1-a-little-guide-to-windows-mobile/ , and I was wondering if the speed ups mentioned in that post work with WM 6.5?
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think
Do you guys know if at&t offers the X1 so I can get a better deal? because I'm going to switch from T-Mobile to at&t very soon. (I live in the US)
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
I heard you can assign "shortcuts" or something to quickly switch from landscape to portrait. Need more info. on this.
Is it possible to Hard-SPL and flash a custom rom to ANY Xpeira? Like are there any that are "blocked" where you can't Hard-SPL it?
Thanks in advance.
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My two cents:
Flashing a ROM deletes all previous installs/updates/whatever.
Normal use - 1 day.
Heavy use - 4 hours.
Minimal to non-existent.
No.
RAFO lol.
Depends on the ROM, but it will never be perfectly smooth.
Just like any other phone.
Yes.
Depends on what you need. If you need a useless outdated device to show off infront of your friends - getbn the iCrap.
If you want a pocket computer - get the X1.
Also, Touch Pro 2 IS NOT better than the X1. I made a thread about in their forum. Search for it. It is called "Touch Pro 2 sucks. Here is why.". I would put a link, but I'm posting this from my X1 and I'm too lazy to do it lol.
I don't know.
Yes, you can map a button to do it.
Yes.
pashax1 said:
"Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up?"
The brushed metal backside battery cover on my black Xperia started picking scratches and metal base started showing through the edges almost within a week of normal usage. A crack on the casing also developed within a month. After just a month of using my X1 carefully, it looks like a year old worn and torn down 50 cent phone. Stay away from X1... HTC Pro2 is a much better deal...
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Learn to take care of your tech. My X1 is 9 months old and is in peffect condition. Don't lie to people, because you can't keep it clean/unscratched.
modo_uk said:
I would get the iphone. I'm seriously considering the iphone as the sony ericsson repair team are useless.
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FAIL.....
With newer smartphone models on the horizon, I don't know how wise a move it would be to buy an X1 now unless it's a really good deal. My X1 is holding up fine for my needs now, but it's not as polished UI wise as I would want it to be. Since I don't understand a thing about ROM cooking and the fact that I'm using Mac's keeps me on my stock ROM (though once updated on a Windows computer), but that's not something I'm necessarily unhappy about. Sure, I'm curious about all the ROM's out there and different UI's but I feel the phone is really stable now. I haven't had a crash for quite a while, which I feel is worth celebrating considering it's WinMo
This phone scratches WAY less than most smartphones, because it isn't made entirely of very cheap plastic...
HTC's other branded phones are pretty notorious for their cheap housing and they crack/scratch/break quite easily.
The three main UI overhauls are Manila (TF3D), SPB Mobile Shell and PointUI Home 2. There's a billion cabs you can skin different things with, so no point in gathering this information until after you have a ROM installed, since different ROMs come with different things installed already.
i have an X1 here in the states on AT&T and it works great. they support it fine.
hezz05 said:
but it's not as polished UI wise as I would want it to be. Since I don't understand a thing about ROM cooking
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well you answered your own problem right there. the X1 has literally unlimited UI options and fine tuning capabilities. i'll be the first to admit the stock UI leaves a lot to be desired, but anyone can get it to work/look exactly like what they want with a little bit of reading
Hmm, well I HAVE considered other smartphones. I've had a Nokia N73 with Symbian S60th edition for like 2 years now (great OS, just bored of it), so I don't really think I'd want another Symbian phone like the Nokia N97. I've also never used WinMo before, and I know it's not really that good (which is why there's touchflo and custom roms ) , but I also want to try something fresh and new. I've also considered the HTC Touch Pro 2, but At&t doesn't offer it and it's like 700 bucks unlocked when I could get the xperia for like 450 bucks unlocked (ebay). Other than that I really dont know what other phone I could consider buying.
Thanks for all these replies guys. I didn't really expect this many.
asayamalaka said:
i have an X1 here in the states on AT&T and it works great. they support it fine.
well you answered your own problem right there. the X1 has literally unlimited UI options and fine tuning capabilities. i'll be the first to admit the stock UI leaves a lot to be desired, but anyone can get it to work/look exactly like what they want with a little bit of reading
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I'd be happy to read a noob-friendly tutorial for Mac users if you could direct me to one. But since I haven't seen either from the day of purchase, I'm keeping with my opinion for now.
Having the ability to mod/customize doesn't take away that the stock Winmo and SE UI is shoddy though. If it were good in the first place it wouldn't need/inspire customizing.
AT&T will offer the TP2, but yeah that phone is not cheap, even with subsidies + rebates...
I got my Xperia X1a used for $400 and works great. I hate how cheap the HTC branded phones feel...
Would I have to update my X1 before installing a custom ROM or would it come updated? You have to install Hard-SPL which is very easy.
On average, how long would the battery last?
I use mine pretty much all day (music,video,calls etc) and it lasts for about 24hrs until it needs a charge.
What are the risks of flashing a custom ROM?
It's very easy just read the tutorial thread.
What are some really good apps that enhance the experience of the X1? Such as maybe a volume enhancer? (as the sound is very low from what I know) The volume really isn't that bad, It's no 5800 although it gets the job done.
Does the case scratch easily? Is it necessary for me to buy a case if I don't want it to be all scratched up? If you treat your things with care you won't have any problem.
If you guys think I'm making a bad decision by not buying the iPhone, please let me know what you think I bought an X1 about a week ago and it's great although I suggest you try it out perhaps at the store or a friends to see if you like it.
Is there a way to make the phone landscape without a sliding the keyboard? Because AFAIK the Xperia lacks an accelerometer.?
Yes you can.
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Learn to take care of your tech. My X1 is 9 months old and is in peffect condition. Don't lie to people, because you can't keep it clean/unscratched.
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Please refrain from calling someone a liar whoever you are. I am only saying what is a fact with my phone. I have been very very careful with its use and protection. Just beacuse you are lucky to not have a bad experience with X1 doesnot qualify you to suggest others are telling lies. I have been using high end mobile phones even before you were born and i know what i am talking about. Dont misguide users with your baseless judgements.
I just recently bought a x1 and it is quite laggy and is there a way to take off the notifications when you send a sms it is quite annoying when you are sending tons of texts a day
Anyone know whats the best rom to make the phone go faster?
sorry I am a noob don't flame me!
treeeee said:
I just recently bought a x1 and it is quite laggy and is there a way to take off the notifications when you send a sms it is quite annoying when you are sending tons of texts a day
Anyone know whats the best rom to make the phone go faster?
sorry I am a noob don't flame me!
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Hehehehe... you're inviting yourself to be flamed... A bit of search would have given you answers. Check out the sticky's related to tweaks. I would recommend installing Xperia Tweak or some other applications like Pocket Toolman and SKTools etc that can let you make changes to your system settings.
First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!
Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck
I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums
Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.
I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.
Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.
It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck
Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks
You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.
I am planning on buying a HTC G1, but after I read that there is only 192mb RAM I decided to wait.
I have a few questions:
1. Can you make a swapfile on the G1?
2. Would there be a big speed/stability difference with 192 and 256 RAM?
3. How does 2.0/2.1 run compared to 1.6?
I will be using this as a PDA, not a phone and will be doing lots of gaming and web browsing on it.
Thank you,
~moonscapex
Buy a Nexus......
I would, but I can't afford one
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I would, but I can't afford one
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save up for one. Don't get a g1, it's already too outdated. save up and buy a good phone that'll last a while. By the time you have the money tucked away I'm sure you'll see phones even better than the nexus one.
Yes, I already have a high-end winmo PDA, so I am looking for a lower end Android phone.
I agree with others that say to get a different phone. I love my G1 to death, but there's no way I'd buy one today if I were in the market. It's just too limited.
That said, I'll try and answer your questions.
1. Yes, running swap is possible using a rooted phone and custom ROM. It's debated whether this actually helps any.
2. The 192 vs. 256 MB difference helps a great deal. There's just not a lot of memory left to run many apps and do much task switching on the newer iterations of the OS with only 192MB. The number of apps you can install is also limited by this number (unless you're running a rooted phone and installing apps to your SD card.)
3. On a G1, 2.0/2.1 is pretty slow. At this point I wouldn't use it as a daily use ROM.
The two functions you listed as your primary activities are the two things that the G1 does the worst. It's underpowered for a lot of games (not to mention the horrible battery life when you start playing games) and browsing the web can be a chore given the limited memory and CPU. It works great for basic things like email, maps/navigation, music, productivity apps, but it's pretty slow for other stuff.
OK, thank you. That is the kind of answer I was looking for. I will look into some other phones.
The G1 is ideal for what your looking for. Man people love to drift off don't they
Yeah they do...
Has anyone else tried Android 2.1 on their G1?
If you root it, in addition to the debatable swapping to the SD for more ram and cache, you can overclock the things. Probably a bit hard on your battery and might generate unacceptable heat, don't know. You might just get it up to 2/3's to 3/4th's the speed of a Nexus for the cost of a bigger battery. Maybe then you could run 2.1 effectively. Who knows.
I'd buy it used. They go for about $175 on ebay unlocked. If you screw it up you've not lost that much. You can resell your broken one on ebay for about $75
Regards, PK
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Yeah they are
Personally
I preordered a G1... rooted it early in the beginnings of Haykuro and JF... and 16 months later I still say there isnt a replacement... I got a full upgrade and I still havent taken advantage... The N1 is nice, if you can live wo the hard keyboard... If you want a low end android, the G1 is a good starter phone...
I run both 2.1 and 1.6 roms.. The 1.6 roms are really fast, The 2.1 roms are worth having on your phone to show off... I can stream music on 3G from 8am to about 230-3pm at work on either so batt life is fine either way on a normal day...
I dont know what kind of gaming you do, but my old school emulators do the trick nicely run on any rom and with the hard keyboard controls are great... I use a ram hack that removes the 3d accelerator for another 8mb of usable ram, so I cant comment on 3d games...
Bricking a G1 is almost impossible now with all the good tutorials... the G1 is the easiest to root, hack, flash, customize... all that in my own eyes... Ive brought noobs down the rabbit hole and now they are cookin up roms and themes like crazy...
I on the other hand still patiently wait for a new bigger better stronger phone (with a hard keyboard) to replace my G1 and I know it will not be in the low end android bracket..
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Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
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My setiments exactly. Hate to say it but it's just fun to see or learn somthing new.
Good thread for Android noobes.
Regards, PK
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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Not really. You must replace the kernel, so it's basically just as complicated as reflashing.
I'ts simple.
Flash the boot.img and reboot.
All gone.
(and vice versa)
you wont loose any data or anything.