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definitely a crap ?

definitely a crap ?
well guys , many of you now have it and many of us are thinking to buy...but... there are some worst rumors....
give us a definitely judge , thanks

stesa said:
definitely a crap ?
well guys , many of you now have it and many of us are thinking to buy...but... there are some worst rumors....
give us a definitely judge , thanks
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i love it, works like a charm for me, but you need to take others opinions like a grain of salt until you actually try the device yourself..

I think the Diamond will have some issues as lots of other devices, but they'll be worked out with later ROMs.

Are you in the USA? If so how can it work like a charm with NO 3G or 850Mhz support? So if you are an AT&T NO EDGE?????? I have the unit and use both SIMS and no better one or the other..
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i love it, works like a charm for me, but you need to take others opinions like a grain of salt until you actually try the device yourself..
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mobilitytoday said:
Are you in the USA? If so how can it work like a charm with NO 3G or 850Mhz support? So if you are an AT&T NO EDGE?????? I have the unit and use both SIMS and no better one or the other..
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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.

The only thing I dont like is the ring volume which is quite soft...

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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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Walshy, are you using it on Next G? I've got one coming (I'm using VF 3G) - it was posted from Sydney Monday evidently....
Kevin

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Walshy, are you using it on Next G? I've got one coming (I'm using VF 3G) - it was posted from Sydney Monday evidently....
Kevin
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nah i bought a prepaid optus sim and testing it with that at the moment, $70 bucks gets you 300MB and some decent call time so thats cool with me, and whey optus roll out their 900Mhz 3G network it will work a treat...
this phone doesnt operate on NextG(850Mhz) it's 3G bands are 900/2100

telstra are a rip off. im on optus on a $70 prepaid turbocharge. gives u $650 worth of calls/txts/video calls and 300mb of data.
telstra soon enough will drop their prices when optus roll out their 900MHz HSPA network.

my advice: go for touch pro if kb and memory slot r important to u.

Hmm, just got mine and have that horrible sinking feeling that I've blown £400 on something that I'm not going to be very happy with.
First, it crashed when loading the customisations, so I hard reset and this time it went ok, but then another application (Touchflo) crashed soon afterwards. It's been ok since, but doesn't inspire confidence.
Second, Touchflo is quite laggy at times and also fiddly, these may be issues for me because I have big hands.
Third, the whole Touchflo thing seems a bit fiddly, I'm almost tempted to run with a standard HTC or Windows 6.1 homescreen to see if there's any improvement.
Fourth, the soft keyboard has keys that are very close together, even in portrait mode the keys are a bind to use.
Fifth, wifi not working very well with my router, keeps disconnecting, but my TyTn2, S730, S710, TyTn, E51 all work ok on it.
I've not had a chance yet to test battery, call quality etc.
Fingers crossed it's just a learning process and with time maybe the whole Touchflo thing will be refined a little more.
It certainly doesn't feel anything like as slick as my Ipod Touch for typing, browsing, music etc.
I have a bad feeling that I should have waited for the 3g iPhone.

walshieau said:
Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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I know it's a bit off topic, but how do you get the flag and the mobile carrier's logo to display on your posts?

g00n3r said:
Hmm, just got mine and have that horrible sinking feeling that I've blown £400 on something that I'm not going to be very happy with.
First, it crashed when loading the customisations, so I hard reset and this time it went ok, but then another application (Touchflo) crashed soon afterwards. It's been ok since, but doesn't inspire confidence.
Second, Touchflo is quite laggy at times and also fiddly, these may be issues for me because I have big hands.
Third, the whole Touchflo thing seems a bit fiddly, I'm almost tempted to run with a standard HTC or Windows 6.1 homescreen to see if there's any improvement.
Fourth, the soft keyboard has keys that are very close together, even in portrait mode the keys are a bind to use.
Fifth, wifi not working very well with my router, keeps disconnecting, but my TyTn2, S730, S710, TyTn, E51 all work ok on it.
I've not had a chance yet to test battery, call quality etc.
Fingers crossed it's just a learning process and with time maybe the whole Touchflo thing will be refined a little more.
It certainly doesn't feel anything like as slick as my Ipod Touch for typing, browsing, music etc.
I have a bad feeling that I should have waited for the 3g iPhone.
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Hey, don't get too down so soon...have a look for the Diamond tweaks - they'll speed up your device (especially TouchFlo) like you won't believe!

That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...

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That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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too right you are.

Dark Fire said:
That's the difference between the Touch Diamond and the iPhone. It's much easier to fix problems with the Touch Diamond through registry edits and third party software, than it is to fix problems with the iPhone...
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Yeah, but why the heck do we have to!? Can't HTC build a quality device that just works out of the box?! Then leave it to us mostly to customize it and somehow improve its usability!? Man, everyday I read about newer and bigger bugs and flaws. May be most of them will be overcomed thanks to this comunity, but were is HTC with its support for its high-priced devices!?
I'm a tech geek alright, and I love having all the newest tech gadgets around. I've wanted to get a WM phone so many times throughout the last few years but they were always behind in lots of aspects compared to the Symbian ones. Then HTC released its TyTNII with its holy specs, great design and somewhat compact size. This was my phone! Yeah, right! Then I found out about this huge issue with the video performance and followed it for about three monts waiting for a solution either from HTC or XDA. And OK - HTC had some problems with Qualcomm support for its stolen from Broadcomm chipsets whatever. So they announced Touch Diamond with a new chipset and "3D GPU" which "processor enhances the user interface". And then again it needs tweaks to make it - not better, but just usable. Then all the other bugs and flaws users say about in this forum.
Well damn you HTC, I'm about to leave the idea of having WM phone again. And that from a fan of yours that followed you back from the era of Qtek devices.

timn2087 said:
I know it's a bit off topic, but how do you get the flag and the mobile carrier's logo to display on your posts?
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go to user CP

So wht is the verdict guys... is it worth buying it or wht i was planning on buying it but i heard a lot rumours tht is it really not worth it... cause the main problem is it is really slow!!!! even after applying the tweak to speed up the phone cause after tht it seems u'll need to soft reset a couple of time and even hard reset....
So the million dollar question is buy or not to buy???

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Did i say i was in the US? if you look up the right on my profile you will see a flag, if you put your mouse over it you will see what country im from.
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g day mate...hows it going down under!

demonizator said:
Yeah, but why the heck do we have to!? Can't HTC build a quality device that just works out of the box?! Then leave it to us mostly to customize it and somehow improve its usability!?
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Maybe a WM device just isn't for you. I wouldn't be happy if I wasn't constantly fiddling anyway, so it's better for me to get a device that needs improving than to get a device that works fine (because fiddling will break it).

Stock Exchange app to HTC Touch Diamond

Hello!
Anyone know if there is a Stock exchange application on the Touch Diamond?
Just like the one in the IPhone.
Feltherre

http://www.sqmbl.com/
used it on the tytn, now on TD
works fine, somewhat small buttons on vga

digitalb said:
http://www.sqmbl.com/
used it on the tytn, now on TD
works fine, somewhat small buttons on vga
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*sigh*
Im getting used to that response. Theres simply nothing new these days that works WITH the Diamonds VGA screen rather than against it.
Im seriously beginning to wonder why I bought a Diamond.

darthbane2k said:
*sigh*
Im getting used to that response. Theres simply nothing new these days that works WITH the Diamonds VGA screen rather than against it.
Im seriously beginning to wonder why I bought a Diamond.
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I'm seriously beginning to wonder why you don't shutup. Stop moaning! You didn't even start this thread.

ljames28 said:
I'm seriously beginning to wonder why you don't shutup. Stop moaning! You didn't even start this thread.
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Okay so whats the solution for the stock exchange app then? There isnt one.
There are no damn apps being developed anymore for WM especially on high end VGA devices.
I too would like a decent stock exch app.. if im moaning over nothing, point me in the right direction and i'd gladly shut up

Well it wasn't a good app.I better just wait for a better app to come a long.

digitalb said:
http://www.sqmbl.com/
used it on the tytn, now on TD
works fine, somewhat small buttons on vga
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I can only see about 1/2 of the cells vertically. I guess it only works if you reduce your text size in windows... but then the phone itsn't finger friendly anymore.

yes,i also have that problem.

Try this:
http://www.pocketx.net/products/pocketstockmonitor_ppc/index.html
I used on my Kaiser and use in my Diamond...
Works perfect.
It has only one issue...
SOmetimes, when you starts the program, there is a fade on the screen... But you have only to press the power button twice and the programs goes well...

Would be great if HTC Home has a tab for stock exchange and share price update. HTC did it for weather, why stop there. Stock price should be next.

Yes,i agree. Hopfully a application that will work perfectly with the TouchFLO 3D.

Stock App Think Anywhare
I use Think Anywhere from Think Or Swim, its pretty cool, but is more than just quotes, Its a whole trading platform. Need subscription, but no deposit requiredment. You can do Paper trading with it.
http://www.thinkorswim.com/tos/displayPage.tos?webpage=wirelessPlatform&displayFormat=hide

Ok,il think i going to try it out.

Check out this video: http://tests.magnus.de/mobile/artikel/exklusiv-video-htc-touch-hd.html
It's the new Touch HD with HTC's Stock Market Tab in manilla! Who will be the first to port it on diamond?

Wow,that one looks really great. Hope somone can make it to the Diamond

Feltherre said:
Wow,that one looks really great. Hope somone can make it to the Diamond
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its already happening, check out the development and hacking section. blackstone porting is going on right now. not done yet, but soon.

Blazeitup123 said:
its already happening, check out the development and hacking section. blackstone porting is going on right now. not done yet, but soon.
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care to share the link mate? im dying to have stock tab on my TD

I have flashed the CT ver 6.2 Lite ROM. It has the Manila HD stock tab built-in. Works great.

Tried this
http://www.mobileblog.it/post/6476/ticker-tape-le-vostre-azioni-su-windows-mobile

Yeah- Ticker Tape is the way to go: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=460
I've used it...looks just like the iPhone app and it's easy to use and works well and was written for VGA

Manila 2.6

Aw man it looks sick, is anyone working on a ROM with Touchflo 3d 2.6? I'm excited for that one. Hopefully we get some builds that get landscape support

right now udk's rom is protected.no one else seems to have the package..but we r doing some thing bout it ..

well i wish you the best of luck my friend because I am pretty excited for it. Do whatever it takes... even if that means kill... just kidding

7heBoss said:
well i wish you the best of luck my friend because I am pretty excited for it. Do whatever it takes... even if that means kill... just kidding
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i honestly don see the point to beat urself up..
its a manila with hero style bg n clock n a new media tabb. n landscape in photo tabb only.
hav paitienc. it will turn up soon

agent_47 said:
i honestly don see the point to beat urself up..
its a manila with hero style bg n clock n a new media tabb. n landscape in photo tabb only.
hav paitienc. it will turn up soon
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eh, its new and exciting. its flashy where regular touch flo is starting to get dull. the main reason i was excited for it though was because maybe it will support full landscape. does anyone know it it will? because the only reason i don't use 2.5 was because of the landscape issues, mostly because of the problems it created with SMSing. another thing was that texts would come in and it wouldn't give the contact that sent it, just the phone number, so when i replied it would have two separate threads for outgoing and incoming and i wouldn't even be able to see the incoming. I haven't used a 2.5 rom in a while though so some of these issues could have been resolved by now.

7heBoss said:
eh, its new and exciting. its flashy where regular touch flo is starting to get dull. the main reason i was excited for it though was because maybe it will support full landscape. does anyone know it it will? because the only reason i don't use 2.5 was because of the landscape issues, mostly because of the problems it created with SMSing. another thing was that texts would come in and it wouldn't give the contact that sent it, just the phone number, so when i replied it would have two separate threads for outgoing and incoming and i wouldn't even be able to see the incoming. I haven't used a 2.5 rom in a while though so some of these issues could have been resolved by now.
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I dont have any landscape issues using Smaberg's Touch X ULTIMATE X-TREME 10.1 FINAL, even in landscape with SMSing. SMS through touch flo is threaded and works perfectly (and via the standard windows threaded interface too) although i am waiting for the new front screen. Looks quite useful, though i dont mind the current 2.5 screen in the boring black/grey as its all in the same theme

amandeepphull said:
I dont have any landscape issues using Smaberg's Touch X ULTIMATE X-TREME 10.1 FINAL, even in landscape with SMSing. SMS through touch flo is threaded and works perfectly (and via the standard windows threaded interface too) although i am waiting for the new front screen. Looks quite useful, though i dont mind the current 2.5 screen in the boring black/grey as its all in the same theme
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This rom use manila 2.1...
It is maybe why you don't have all the issues related to manila 2.5...

I hadn't realised there was a 2.6 until I came across this thread. Then I saw the video of it and it looks much more polished than the ROMs that have recently been released. If they've sorted out the SMS issues and general stability then this one will be well worth waiting for.

I am going to get the Leo anyway... unless someone is willing to port it to the Sato... lol.

hyellow said:
I am going to get the Leo anyway... unless someone is willing to port it to the Sato... lol.
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music to my ears
I would like to note this TouchFlo 3D 2.6 is R1

Can we have this on Att Fuze(touch pro)
Please anyone knows ?

If someone is interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4365625#post4365625

bassam said:
music to my ears
I would like to note this TouchFlo 3D 2.6 is R1
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... I am not going to lie, i don't even know what that means. haha
can anyone help me out? R1? The Sportbike?

udk, you want 300$ just for the rom? the phone cost is less....

piottone said:
udk, you want 300$ just for the rom? the phone cost is less....
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dont worry..a idle mind is a devils workshop..n at the moment im idle.

rotastrain said:
dont worry..a idle mind is a devils workshop..n at the moment im idle.
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I would pay if I could but I can't so I will (in his words) "stay away". A bit rude, that!

Klaus1960 said:
I would pay if I could but I can't so I will (in his words) "stay away". A bit rude, that!
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I am interested, but not THAT insterested. Strange how it is necessary to have a fixed car in order to develop a ROM.... and we are expected to pay for an untested ROM?
I agree that developing a nice ROM is work that is worth paying for, but only if the ROM is usable and we can't know that before we have tested it...
Wrong way around.. release the ROM and let people donate. We are not your employers.
rotastrain, thank you for putting effort in to get us new stuff!

You are one tight ass $300 lol you gotta be kidding.

Only my humble opinion, but I have a real problem with udK's stance on this. I know there is effort involved in cooking the ROM and making sure if things are compatible, but ultimately he just only providing access to HTC's software. To monopolise it to his advantage - which he seems to be doing - is wrong.
It seems quite a few people are donating $5 at a pop - that'll mean 60 people will need to do so in order for the ROM to be released. What if only 50 donate?
Kudos to the chefs who gracefully accept donations based on their hard work rather than expecting prior payment on nothing more than a promise. Out.

peopl..peopl..relax..its coming ur way soon ..at xda we should all create for the community..not for money
if i succed we get it soon..othwise i kepp trying
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Liquor? I hardly knew her!!!

Ha. Gotcha.
I don't know...I'm at odds here...
With taxes coming in (I know I'm getting a nice refund)...I am torn between getting a touch pro 2 (Tilt 2, whatever)...and a Leo...
I have a touch hd at this time, and the one thing that really gets me is the lack of TV out, which the TP2 has. A small, insignificant thing to some, but with 2 children and a van, the old Fuze I used to have really came in handy.
But then I look at the Leo, with its huge screen, 1ghz Snapdragon, capability to be upgraded to wm7---but also, no tv out...
Or should I just wait a little longer to see what comes up???
Any ideas???
Rumning Poll
Touch Pro 2- 0
Leo- 1
Ican'tmakeupmymindeither (aka Orb3000 poll)-1
hd3/tp3- Stop confusing me!!!!!-2

there has been some news about HD3, I don't know whether its for real or not. It would be a grand device looking at its specifications.

telegraph0000 said:
I don't know...I'm at odds here...
With taxes coming in (I know I'm getting a nice refund)...I am torn between getting a touch pro 2 (Tilt 2, whatever)...and a Leo...
I have a touch hd at this time, and the one thing that really gets me is the lack of TV out, which the TP2 has. A small, insignificant thing to some, but with 2 children and a van, the old Fuze I used to have really came in handy.
But then I look at the Leo, with its huge screen, 1ghz Snapdragon, capability to be upgraded to wm7---but also, no tv out...
Or should I just wait a little longer to see what comes up???
Any ideas???
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If hardware keyboard is must for you go for Rhodium!
There won´t be better choice till 2011
If not a hardware keyboard fan but you can wait and $ is not a prob, then go for HD3
If can´t wait go for Leo

Dam the HD3 sounds like one sexy beast of a phone...any hope of that being for AT&T as well, i was rather disappointed that the HD2 never made it

Didn't even know that there was an HD3 in the horizon...gotta google...
edit...okay, googled it up...even though they are just rumors...no...way...this would be the ultimate phone...that is, at least until a 2ghz model comes out...

telegraph0000 said:
Didn't even know that there was an HD3 in the horizon...gotta google...
edit...okay, googled it up...even though they are just rumors...no...way...this would be the ultimate phone...that is, at least until a 2ghz model comes out...
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Dang... But you'd have to wait until November...

If it's even for real...

True that. Hmm. I'd definitely have to say the Leo, though.

theres rumors on a TP3 as well

(you do know that none of you are helping...) 'cept for the Texan with the rebel hair...
Oh that's nice. My cries for help get only 126 views, yet a thread with the title "Sexy Lady" has over 200 already!!!! *time to change strategy*...renames thread...*

How DARE you fool me with that title change!

fiktion said:
How DARE you fool me with that title change!
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Huh--wha? I do not know you sir (new avatar)...and why the heck did you click? perv. and next time you take a self pic. POUT LIKE THE PROFESSIONALS!!!

Ha. Psssh, I clicked because I love... Um, gymnastics(?) not big breasted women... Yeah, that's why.
The Vogue's camera only allows me to pout so much. Any more, and the picture comes out black.

no one else would like to put their two cents?

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no one else would like to put their two cents?
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(You asked for it! know nought bout new phones! Keep your old)

wovens said:
(You asked for it! know nought bout new phones! Keep your old)
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lawlz. PWNED.

wovens said:
(You asked for it! know nought bout new phones! Keep your old)
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Muy inteligente...pero que malvada....

telegraph0000 said:
Muy inteligente...pero que malvada....
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Mui malvada indeed! Now, I think you should follow Steve Jobs and buy an ipudding or an HTC Magnun! I knew I've seen the idea before! Small enough for delicate ears!

Lol
Great one!

I guess it depends on what you want in a phone. From the research I did in phones, the TP2 is a great phone. The others are great but are expensive if you buy them outright. You might consider providing more details other than the phones you're trying to choose from. Like what you want in a phone.

please help I'm about to buy X1 ?

hi all
i want help please from the experts , i have some questions about the X1 ,
1- is there is any differences between the silver and the black color in the speed issues or any other difference ?
2- upgrading to wm6.5 with pure rom has any drawbacks like battery runs out so quick or makes the phone slower ?
3- is the sliding mechanism still stable after usage long time ?
4- the loud speaker volume is it loud enough ?
while i'm browsing the forums i found a lot of problems that the xperia's owners face , like cam stop working , the phone not boot , screen stop working , is this a reason of something like careless in usage or flashing the rom or any other reason ?
all of this reasons push the fair on me before i but the X1 , please experts i need help from you to reassure me b4 i buy it , especially the speed of the phone because has a lot of complains about the speed and response of the phone .
thank you waiting your soonest reply

prince_kassad14 said:
hi all
i want help please from the experts , i have some questions about the X1 ,
1- is there is any differences between the silver and the black color in the speed issues or any other difference ?
2- upgrading to wm6.5 with pure rom has any drawbacks like battery runs out so quick or makes the phone slower ?
3- is the sliding mechanism still stable after usage long time ?
4- the loud speaker volume is it loud enough ?
while i'm browsing the forums i found a lot of problems that the xperia's owners face , like cam stop working , the phone not boot , screen stop working , is this a reason of something like careless in usage or flashing the rom or any other reason ?
all of this reasons push the fair on me before i but the X1 , please experts i need help from you to reassure me b4 i buy it , especially the speed of the phone because has a lot of complains about the speed and response of the phone .
thank you waiting your soonest reply
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1. There are no differences in speed in regards to color.
2. I haven't used the Pure Rom.
3. The sliding mechanism is the best I have ever seen, felt, and used.
4. The Loud Speaker Volume is not loud enough in public places of with the television on. Not suggested for music playback.
No, I have not faced these problems on my X1
Yes, the phone is extremely slow for a Windows Mobile device.
Also, there are more problems that you should be aware of. After a long span of use, the device will show cracks and lose it's paint. Second, the keyboard will lose it's sensitivity within 2 years (phones are suppose to maintain a functional keyboard forever).

poetryrocksalot said:
1. There are no differences in speed in regards to color.
2. I haven't used the Pure Rom.
3. The sliding mechanism is the best I have ever seen, felt, and used.
4. The Loud Speaker Volume is not loud enough in public places of with the television on. Not suggested for music playback.
No, I have not faced these problems on my X1
Yes, the phone is extremely slow for a Windows Mobile device.
Also, there are more problems that you should be aware of. After a long span of use, the device will show cracks and lose it's paint. Second, the keyboard will lose it's sensitivity within 2 years (phones are suppose to maintain a functional keyboard forever).
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What he said. Seconded.

orelsi said:
What he said. Seconded.
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Thirded. Ultimately the only major problem I haven't been able to solve either through Sony repair or tweaking is the sluggishness of the phone. I would say that I now have a phone that does nearly everything I want, but it's fairly slow. I also wish the camera and video recording were better, but they are better than what you might expect on a WM phone, I guess.
ps welcome back Orelsi. Where the hell you been???

ring-bearer said:
Where the hell you been???
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Thanks lol .
I got a new job and did a couple of months of post graduation studies abroad before that.... I didn't have time for anything personal .
I will stay permanently now (unless something else pops up), but probably won't have that much time to post....

orelsi said:
Thanks lol .
I got a new job and did a couple of months of post graduation studies abroad before that.... I didn't have time for anything personal .
I will stay permanently now (unless something else pops up), but probably won't have that much time to post....
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Good to have you back! Shoot, our iPhanBoy defenses had suffered a major blow with your absence!

ring-bearer said:
Good to have you back! Shoot, our iPhanBoy defenses had suffered a major blow with your absence!
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Reporting for duty! No iPhail tards shall pass!

ring-bearer said:
Good to have you back! Shoot, our iPhanBoy defenses had suffered a major blow with your absence!
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I second that emotion. Although sometimes excessive I always appreciated the harsh smackdown orelsi would bring to the iPhone trolls that would come here (no offense to rational iPhone owners). It seems they have left us alone now. Perhaps they have gone to Leo forums?
Anyway good to have you back

Hannigan174 said:
I second that emotion. Although sometimes excessive I always appreciated the harsh smackdown orelsi would bring to the iPhone trolls that would come here (no offense to rational iPhone owners). It seems they have left us alone now. Perhaps they have gone to Leo forums?
Anyway good to have you back
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Thanks . Good to be back.