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Are You a Gamer?

And do you flash roms? if so you probably already know that some of your games no longer work, im talking about games that use Direct Draw. Quake, Quake 2, Duke Nukem. I havn't stuck with one of these roms long enough to try out any other games, so those 3 are the only ones I can confirm. Depending on if you have error reporting turned on, here is what happens when you try to launch one of these games;
you tap the .exe, it will start to load up and appear to be working, but as soon as any graphics are produced it closes. It may bring up the error report screen and you can send this report to microsoft. If you have this disabled then of corse there is no error report.
It seems that the wm6.1 roms and Diamond based roms out there dont support direct draw.
Currently I'm running Dutty's 4/29 rom and it's the most stable, it supports Direct draw. It's a WM6.1 Rom, however it was released BEFORE the official WM6.1 was released, this may have something to do with it.
my main concern is people aren't aware of this issue, and recently the OpenGL drivers are being developed and ran on the Kaiser. OpenGL opens a whole new door for us gamers! (hopefully). However when this OpenGL roms are available to us, and don't support DirectDraw, that just CLOSES half of those doors .
What's the point of an OpenGL rom if that same rom doesnt support DirectDraw?
Roms not support direct draw: (please add on to this list)
ROMeOSv2.3
[24 June] HyperDragon III WM6.1 WWE ROM 19588 - 19591 (Diamond ROM)
[Jun 07] Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588
[June 25] L26_KaiserDiamond_V9 (and other L_26 roms)
[June 18] Death V4 Business edition
WM6.1 ATT 214 ROM _ Ryncppr Version V5 _ DIAMOND APPEAL
I have not been able to test EVERY rom out there, and im sure the rest of you guys can help me add on to this list. but it seems a good number of new roms dont support it.

And yes I've noticed it too. Doesn't the GBA emulators like Pocketgba and Snes emulators use DirectDraw too? It would help a lot if it were fixed. Even with the OpenGL drivers I doubt we would still be able to play these emulators at full speed.

I can confirm games like Quake and Duke not running on my 6.1 roms. I'm currently using the one in my sig so that can be added to the list. I have also tried Duttys Diamond rom, and a few L26 roms and can confirm they didn't work on there either. Warcraft II does work however, and all my emulators play just fine.

I can play Doom, PocketNestorPlus, and PocketSNES just fine. Using the configuration listed in my sig. Dunno if that helps or not...

eknutson said:
I can play Doom, PocketNestorPlus, and PocketSNES just fine. Using the configuration listed in my sig. Dunno if that helps or not...
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doom PocketNesterPlus, and PocketSNES worked for me as well, I'm not sure what they use for graphics.

Hey mikeeey, have you read my reply here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2347820&postcount=642

"im talking about games that use Direct Draw. Quake, Quake 2, Duke Nukem."
non of those games in their normal form use directdraw at all
they run on very old wm2000 devices too
and even in their dos versions the dident use any form of hardware acceleration
well later on they came in opengl versions but never dx

So the ddraw.dll built into all of those ROMS are broken?
Have you tried writing a test ddraw app to isolate if ddraw.dll is broken, or the way it's being used is bad?

Rudegar said:
"im talking about games that use Direct Draw. Quake, Quake 2, Duke Nukem."
non of those games in their normal form use directdraw at all
they run on very old wm2000 devices too
and even in their dos versions the dident use any form of hardware acceleration
well later on they came in opengl versions but never dx
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then what in the new roms are making these games not work?

sakajati said:
Hey mikeeey, have you read my reply here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2347820&postcount=642
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[Engine Setup]
UsingGapi = 0
yes this does switch it so it uses Gapi, but I had Gapi turned off for a reason, the reason being it crashed more. For example while playng duke, on the first level, if you look at the pool table it crashes for some reason, same with the orange lighting at the end of the level.

mikeeey said:
[Engine Setup]
UsingGapi = 0
yes this does switch it so it uses Gapi, but I had Gapi turned off for a reason, the reason being it crashed more. For example while playng duke, on the first level, if you look at the pool table it crashes for some reason, same with the orange lighting at the end of the level.
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So using this setting the game will load, but it basically renders the game unplayable?

Pocket nes For Nintendo perfection plays most nes games.
Pico Drive for Sega Genesis. Plays them well with and without sound. some games better than others
Burner for Neo-Geo/cps1/cps2 games. I like this one.. choppy with sound, Great with out. Due to the my tilt being underpowered. its choppy with sound for now.
PocketSnes for Snes games. it works. It really works.. play with the settings to see what fits you. Due to the underpowered tilt.
I think i hit the best ones for the systems i listed above...i am sure this topic has been brought up in this forum before.. Please refer the search button on your top menu bar. It is located three buttons in from you light side.. Please feel free to Use this anytime.

i keep changing Roms because of this problem... i know that. If i can get my games running full speed on my wizard. IT really sucks because i know this **** is capable with so much more.... I mean there was a direct draw type program that was floating around. Its just a project tho....
all i know

"then what in the new roms are making these games not work?"
sounds like it i can still play them using wm6.1 on my himalaya but then it's not a full 6.1 i guess some of the core is prob of later date
also the ATI IMAGEON 3200 dont do 3d acceleration only a bit of 2d and video

So im just wondering why developers havn't found a way to not use the wm6.1 core, but still use the wm6.1 Diamond drivers and such..

I talked to dutty about the issue.
he says it's the new drivers that HTC released in the new wm6.1, it's some weird problem with landscape cleartype. I will flash a new rom and disable landscape cleartype and see if it helps.
it just seems slowly we have to disable more and more to get things worked (ex. A-GPS, sometimes HTC Home, now cleartype)
atleast we know the problem now!

mikeeey have you seen this yet? Quake 3 on the Diamond! Running very very slow but hey, it runs!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405722

ahhh! no!!!
then that means with the OpenGL drivers for the Kaiser it may run at 2fps.
on my kaiser Quake 3 already runs between 1-3fps. mainly around 2fps.

see this is one of the main reasons im sticking to the most updated WM6 version until the updated and bug fixed 6.1 roms come ou for att or tmobile...once these directdraw and opengl / gps problems are fixed I don't see the need too upgrade 2 6.1 and have HALF my applications not work anymore when ALL of them work right now.

mikeeey said:
So im just wondering why developers havn't found a way to not use the wm6.1 core, but still use the wm6.1 Diamond drivers and such..
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what about shoguns d3d driver cab i am using it on duttys hybrid 19716 6.1 rom and i can play pocketgba with sound and some of the games are very playable

OpenGL ES Games

Hi,
I've tried some OpenGL ES games (usually designed for the X51v)...
Those games don't work, I've got a message "untrusted certificate..."
Call of Duty 2 (software version OK) (www.aspyr.com)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 (software version OK) (www.ionfx.com)
Yeti 3D Engine (www.sourceitsoftware.com/yeti.html)
Chopper Fight (www.omnigsoft.com)
Solterra (http://www.blacksmithstudios.com/solterra/)
Enigmo (www.aspyr.com)
BUT !!!
Stuntcar Extreme accelerated (X51v version) works with our devices but it's very slow... (about 5 fps)...
Strange thing that this game works... about the speed, I really don't know if it's our driver or the poor 3d chip...
I'll try some others...
I don't know what the error message means... somone has an idea ?

Thanks for the info! im very interesting in diamond games performance as its one of main reasons for me to buy it!
have you tried any games on the playstation emulator FPSECE? or PocketSnes?
Thanks

According to the poor GLBenchmark performances, and Stuntcar Extreme OGLES, it seems to be a poor graphic chipset...
Or maybe a poor driver (libgles_cm.dll) but I bear on the first option...

A 3D Accelerator is all that is needed to play such games with requirements that aren't that much really, they need to be optimised for the diamond, or there is some driver issue, that is all.

Most OpenGL ES games I have tried don't work at all for me, Stuntcar Extreme won't even start either will Solterra and that looks pretty good

i managed to run COD2 in hardware mode, very good frame rame rate too!
so i guess its not about a poor 3d chip but more a software issue
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428703

I got Tony Hawk to run with hardware accel!!!the frames are sluggish..maybe needs some tweaking....

Hi ,
wich rom are you using trying those game ?
have you tried ati d3d driver ?
thanx by advance
solterra seems to be freeware , but hard as hell to find ...
i 've seen a great improvement in thps2 with ati d3d .cab ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475493

Hi guizmox
the answer to untrusted ... is here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428703

ive been able to run COD and THPS. problems are controls... and the device gets quite hot when playing even for five minutes. I wish I could play those games... BUt its just way to inconvenient.

yes ... i agree gameplay is horrible ... but it works !
i m going to buy a bluetooth gamepad

So i ve tested many of those games ...
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/games/98674-x50v-x51v-2700g-accelerated-game-list.html
all of them are playable and accelerated , but i steel doesnt find x51v versions of fathammers games solterra and stuntcar ...
if anybody has an idea
info : in chopper fight http://www.omnigsoft.com/products/2005/ChopperFight/ChopperFight.html
the demo comes with two files ... only this one is antialised by our chip "ChopperFight11x_Trial_320x320.exe"
dont know why ...

bench
Usefull toy to bench your device with ati driver
http://www.ims.tuwien.ac.at/~daniel/download/BenchGLES_0_2.zip

hi guizmox !
i finally found stunt car extreme for x51 v but it wouldnt run , why have we far different results .. ??
i m using 2.03 official rom with ati d3d drivers
in fact i ve dl every versions of stunt car i found no one is working ..
excuse me for my poor english ..

Solterra
If anyone is interested I have found Solterra for X51v. Tried it on my Diamond:
.DLL files found in main directory are HSS.DLL and ZLIB1.DLL
The game gave me an "Untrusted" error upon start. Copied and renamed lebgles_cm.dll from Windows directory to ZLib1.dll, replaced original. Same thing.
Downloaded sdkcerts.cab and installed. Ran Solterra. Same thing.
Downloaded lebgles_cl.dll (thanks NuShrike!) wrapper, game starts then quits. (Windows Titlebar changes to Solterra momentarily but nothing is visible.)
Downloaded CUBE 2004 x51v, copied and renamed ZlibCE.dll to Zlib1.dll. Solterra can be seen in Windows Titlebar indefinitely. Let PDA sit for 2 minutes. Nothing happened. Screen unresponsive to stylus. Pressed Home Key, Diamond returned to home screen and Solterra crashed.
I have heard a few debates about whether Solterra is freeware or not. The last time I checked the site was down, and Solterra is essentially abandonware (I heard if you clicked the "BuyNow" button on the homepage, you could download the full game for free for a limited time...) but since the site is gone and no information is available I will refrain from posting the link until someone can prove it is freely distributable. (I don't want to anger the mods and get banned on my first post!)
If anyone has any other ideas to get the game running, please let me know. I'll share my results and help others get the game running too. If you want the files, just prove the game is freeware and ill upload it somewhere and post the link. Thanks!
ROM: aFast 2.03 (b30)
Radio: v1.09.25.23

i m looking for solterra for a long time ... where did you find it ?
Please .....

Is it possible to Play SuperNes games or Gameboy advance games on the diamond?

Play SuperNes games or Gameboy advance games on the diamond?

one word - no

sNes
http://www.pdagameguide.com/snes-emulator.html
Haven't tried it though..

yes it's possible and very easy!
I've got installed 4 amulators working fine
for SNES: PocketSNES version 1.12.200
for Sega Genesis: Genesis Plus/PocketPc version 1.06 (GenPP)
for PSX:FPSECE version 0.09.6
for Gameboy Advance: PocketGBA
you can google them or find some of them in the xda-wiki.
all of them work fine in the diamond with vga support, but the best are for SNES and Sega Genesis. the other 2 are a little slow but of cours you can play some games.
tell me if you need any help, I'm new with WM but I've tried lots of things already.

And don't forget morphgear.
TDO

Whats it like with gameplay in terms of hardware buttons, etc?

hi,
the pocketsnes i dled the arm version, and when i tried loading up my rom nothing happens, and when i click the screen it leads me to a website, i also notice that everything is slower.
morphgear on the otherhand is tiny, i guess its only for qvga mode.
is there anyway to make one of these work properly?

I really hope that the Diamond/TP can play SNES quite good because my 4 year old Palm T3 with 400MHz has no problems with 320 x 480.

Zha0 said:
hi,
the pocketsnes i dled the arm version, and when i tried loading up my rom nothing happens, and when i click the screen it leads me to a website, i also notice that everything is slower.
morphgear on the otherhand is tiny, i guess its only for qvga mode.
is there anyway to make one of these work properly?
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Morphgear
If you want an on screen controler you have to use a vga skin.
The default is only for qvga.
TDO

mazais said:
one word - no
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Why do you answer when you have no clue?
It is possible! Just use google.

ResFix or RealVGA resolution switcher?

I've searched the forums and cannot find an answer...
My old e800 had a program called ResFix that would put it in QVGA mode. Great for some programs that get very laggy on a VGA device. I see that another HTC device has a program called RealVGA that does the same thing. I don't think it works on Raphael. Is there a utility that does this for the Fuze or Touch Pro?

Yes there is, it's calles wvgafix3. It only supports switching between wvga, vga and sqvga though.
Hope this helps

Thanks!
I saw this program. I was focused on finding something that would switch to QVGA for playing my old games. I've had windows PDAs since they were called a Palm PC. I think Microsoft got sued for that one. Anyway, since you specifically mentioned it, I tried it instead of passing it by. It works great. My games play smoothly in square VGA were they get laggy in real vga. Very odd. It's always been that way on VGA, though. I had a Toshiba e800 on PPC 2003 and it behaved exactly the same way.
Everything is a bit "squished", but it plays very smoothly and that's good enough for me!

FPSECE 0.096 works on my diamond!!!

For someone who can’t run fpsece 0.096 on your diamond, maybe this is the answer what you are looking for (It works for me).
1-Put your game image file IN SAME DIRECTORY WITH FPSECE.EXE (YES! NOT THE /ISOS/!), this is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!
2-For someone who use a compressed game image file (.z .bz .znx), create two registry keys on your diamond:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Loader\LoadModuleLow]
"LIBZ.DLL"=dword:00000001
"LIBBZ2.DLL"=dword:00000001
After those changes on my diamond (especially the first one), I finally get fpsece 0.096 works with several wonderful games (like FF VII, Vagrant Story, …), a little slowly, but works!
Hope this post could help you (if you need ^_^), good luck!

hi,
where are you find the 0.09.6 version ? I've tried with the 0.09.5 and FF7 "rip" in .iso by nero burning rom (700mo wahou), but it doesn't work ! when I run the game, I have the boot of playstation with the sound, and after nothing !
could you help me please ?
sorry for my bad english....

here it is.

thanks dud, it works perfectly ! little slowly, the first game I tried is Formula 1 and it's very difficult to play, but for RGP games it's good !
thank you for your help
have a nice day !

Yes, I had this also on default factory ROM. Every time you have to choose a file using a file selection dialog - be it a bios, memcard or iso - fpsece 0.096 just quits. The simple workaround, not requiring to change registry or move files out of their proper dirs, is this:
In the file selection dialog, before you select a file, just change dir and change back.
EDIT: My device is Touch Pro.

Good tricks here, I quoted them on FpseCE forum, with the source and the link to this page.
Thanks!

There are slow Alaab
I hope the solution ;;;;;;;;;
Thank you

fawwaz said:
There are slow Alaab
I hope the solution ;;;;;;;;;
Thank you
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Your neva gunna get fpsece running at full speed on your diamond, infact i think the only ppc that can is the axim and its intel graphics chip lol

Got it working in my Diamond (WM 6.5.0)
The ISO (img whatever) must be placed in the same folder as the fpsce.exe as mentioned above!
Game takes some time to startup, runs slow though. Impressive nevertheless^^
GTA 2 on 2,8" screen

any memory problems?
is there any memory problems playing games with this?
is there a control pad in the screen for easy playing? since I really have a hard time playing using my diamonds buttons on the other emulators I tried

Thanks! Those 2 registry for my Diamond are really working!

Nice, although my gaming days are over

FPse is one of my favorite apps of all time. Love it!!