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Question for the Wizard GURU, Sprite Back-Up

I was over on the Cingular forum today and someone was posting about using Sprite Back up to restore information after a ROM upgrade. I have asked the question before and everyone told me it was not possible to do, I never tried because of this. Today someone posted that they did a restore after the ROM upgrade and it worked fine other than a couple SMS settings. Is this true? Would this not revert some of the ROM files back to old ones? Any help would be useful.

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The problems with restoring a full back-up after a Rom upgrade.
1. Full back-up includes the Registry. There can be (and almost always are) subtle changes to how and where things get stored in the registry.
2. Core components (such as filenames and locations) have been known to change from one version to the next.
So now you overwrite the new registry with an old outdated one.
Sure you might not notice problems immediately but they will come.

So, I was going through the Sprite Back Up program and in the advanced tab it allows you to select the items you want to back up, exclude the registry and so on. With this said and selecting only the programs you are currently running would this not allow you to restore your programs onto the device after a ROM upgrade? :?:

Almost all programs require the use of registry to store settings. If you don't export and restore the settings, what's the point of backup? Not to mention sometimes your restored program may not work at all unless it is a very simple program. Most of them have to register with system to be functional, i.e. today screen plugins.

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=9666&jump=true#M9666
This is information I have been looking for it goes into the sprite back up function of upgrading. I am very interested and think I will give this a go on Summinter's new ROM when it comes out. Does anyone see any downside to this?

Wow, sprite supporting Rom Upgrades is news to me!

spritebackup working thru rom upgrades
has anyone tested this to actually work... anyone have information on what they backed up and then reinstalled backup after rom upgrade and what actually worked and did not?
any info would be great... thanks
-James

Sprite Backup works for a restore after a ROM upgrade
I have used Sprite Backup 5.x to do a restore after a ROM upgrade and everything worked great with the exception of my Messaging settings.
The basic process is/was simple. Run a full backup on your data, including the registry and store to your MiniSD card as and EXE - sprite gives you the option to do this.
Before you do the upgrade, you need to go to the Sprite web site and download a file called "GetUpgradeData2005.exe" and put it on the Storage Card (miniSD)
After the ROM upgrade, run GetUpgradeData2005.exe and it will put a file on your device. I think that it puts it on the device, in main memory, so you need to move it to your Storage Card.
Go to the backup file that you want to restore from. As the backup file is an exe, you do not need to reinstall Sprite before doing this.
In the restore options, there is a checkbox for Device Upgrade. Check this. Then run restore. The restore process will ask you for this file that was created by the GetUpgradeData2005.exe. Select it and then the restore run.
The device will reboot once or twice (cant remember) and walla! You have the new ROM but with all your apps and stuff back.
Some caveats/warnings:
1) Don’t backup your storage card data for this backup/restore
2) After the restore, non of my pop3 and imap email accounts were recreated in Messaging – however, when I tried to recreate the accounts manually, using the same POP name for each account, it told me that the name was already in use. SO clearly, the data for the account was in the registry somewhere, but just did not restore 100%.
Being lazy, I just created the accounts with a different POP3 name and that’s it. I am sure that if I looked I would have found the settings in the registry, deleted them, and then recreated the accounts- but the name was not that important.
It should be noted that every night I downloaded all the mail from these accounts into my desktop Outlook, so that on a day to day basis, there were no messages stored in these accounts on the device, thus I don’t think there was any space taken up by not deleting the accounts from the registry – but I am not sure of this.
On the plus side, all my SMS messages were restored.
Hope this helps

Tonight I've decided to upgrade ROM to a newer version (i-Mate 2.16.9.1 -> O2 2.21.4.101) and I did a system backup with Sprite Backup. When I restored it back to Wizard I god a message that the restoration went successfully, but with some errors.
In log I saw many lines like:
Code:
Warning :Error creating value Default
Warning :Error creating value ThreadingModel
Warning :Error creating value ConnectsToPin
Warning :Error creating value Merit
Should I be "worried" for the system stability? So far nothing strange happened..but I haven't started all the programs installed.

Sprite Backup for ROM Upgrade

Sprite Backup has a ROM upgarde mode -- how do folks use it when reflashing? I've spent a lot of time loading programs from CABs, tuning settings, etc. I don't want to redo any of that when reflashing. What's the sequence of Sprite Backup actions which will preserve most of the setups?

It's very simple, enable Device Upgrade Mode, backup the device, flash your favourite ROM and restore it. Sprite Backup does the rest and your phone will be exactly the same as before you flashed. You may have to delete some redundant items from Windows/StartUp. That's it!

Full backup for flashing rom

Hi,
How can I perform full backup on my diamond before flashing rom ? I've tried to perform backup using Sprite Backup, and after restore, the programs installed in internal memory cannot be found in Program folder. Also, seems other settings (like Bookmark of Opera) cannot be restored as well.
Anyone can give me hints please?

have a look into the diamond rom develpoment section!

I use SPB Backup wich detect the ROM flash. After that, the restoration ask if i want to restore with the "flashing rom mode". If i answer yes, i find my diamond as i left it before flashing the rom.

Restoring from Sprite after 6.1 Upgrade

I have a full backup of my 6.0 machine and can't restore it after the wonderful 6.1 upgrade. I'm on an exchange server so emails and contacts are no big deal but I would like to restore my text messages. Can I move these over individually without doing a full restore? I can move the "messaging" folder from the sprite explorer but how do I get them on the tilt? Thanks in advance.

would like to know as well!

Can't be done. Sprite Backup cannot be used to restore from ROM to ROM.
You will need to flash back to WM6, restore your Sprite backup, and then use a program called PIM Backup to archive your text messages.
After flashing WM 6.1 again, run PIM Backup again and restore your text messages.

I thought the latest versions of Sprite and SPB backup could do some ROM to ROM stuff.
Although I personally wouldn't recomment it. UC + ProvXML + my xcopyce app + ActiveSync does everything I need.
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I thought the latest versions of Sprite and SPB backup could do some ROM to ROM stuff.
Although I personally wouldn't recomment it. UC + ProvXML + my xcopyce app + ActiveSync does everything I need.
Dave
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They can, but just as you said, it's not recommended. With all the unofficial builds that the ROMs here tend to be based on, it's just not wise to carry any programs over from flash to flash.

A friend of mine upgraded and used sprite (even though I told him not too), is there any way to pull JUST the contacts from the Sprite file??

You can do it. I went from WM6 to WM6.1 and used a backup I did from 6 to restore everything to 6.1.
The only tip I can give you is this.
Do not restore anything in the file system data unless its non application stuff you put there, pictures, skins, browser favourites etc.
My phone works fine I have all my old contacts, mails and pim entries from my old rom. I just re-installed my apps that were on my phone, not my storage card. Anything that runs when the phone is switched on I always install to the phone. I even restored my start menu and found that most of the games and apps I installed to the memory card run fine, they just sometimes require you to re-enter the registration details the first time you run them after restoring.
You are restoring data not programs so it should be fine.

i disabled sms threading in kaisertweak. tried to do restore using sprite again and all my sms messages show up but now i have a text message saying "account locked. company policy prohibits use of text messaging on this device. you ocannot send or recieve text messags."
also when the restore was done i got an error about sddeamon.exe

Thanks funem but when how do you specify which files to restore? When I start it makes sure I want to restore "everything." Also, I have the 10-day trial of the newest sprite but when i try and restore it says the program must be authorized to run. I emailed tech support because the trial says that it should be fully functional throughout the trial period. although its only a $10 upgrade, a free trial run just to get my text's back was all I was looking for.

When you start a restore it should take you to a tree view of the data backed up with checkboxes next to each available branch, just remove the ticks from the boxes where you dont want to restore data.

Can anyone tell me a List of things we need to install
after we have windows 6.1 on the Tilt
Like:
Adv config
Camera cab
KaiserTweak cab
do we still need all these or ........

Using Sprite Backup 1st time:
Here's another "Can anyone tell me?" question:
How long should it take Sprite Backup to run on it's first time?
I went to the program, clicked Backup, it did a reset and came up to the
Windows
Mobile
Version 6.1
screen and has been there for a long time.
How long does it take? Is it hung, or is it working?
Thanks!
EDIT:
I waited a long time, then did a soft reset and it came back and ran properly and reset.
All good, thanks anyway.

How come Sprite backup makes dual copies
of your menu items? After I had restored my Tilt using Sprite and I went to my Menu settings after it was complete..I had duplicate items....and I couldn't uncheck anything?? Calendar, Messages, WMP, ...etc ..etc..

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of your menu items? After I had restored my Tilt using Sprite and I went to my Menu settings after it was complete..I had duplicate items....and I couldn't uncheck anything?? Calendar, Messages, WMP, ...etc ..etc..
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I have this same problem. can anyone please explain why? and what can i do to fix it without re installing everything.
thanks

[Q] Backing up apps

Hi,
i'm slightly confused about the different backup applications available and i hope you guys could aid me =)
1. ClockworkMod Recovery: if we follow the steps in the ClockworkMod Recovery for Galaxy S i9000 post, will it back up the entire FW along with its custom roms, apps, contacts, sms etc?
so would that mean that i could reflash this backed up copy if the newer FW is not to my liking? alternatively is the apps and settings within transferable to new firmware?
2. Are there any apps that solely backups the sms, contacts, apps etc so that we can apply to the newly flashed FW? (so that we wont need to reinstall the entire applications etc, and also lose all the sms and settings). Eg titanium, or backup pro?
3. Lastly, alternatively is there anyway i could transfer these settings out from the phone prior to flashing? and subsequently reintroduce them back once flashing is complete.
Thanks for helping!

I would also like to know answers to these questions because I want to backup my ENTIRE phone (firmware+apps+sms+contacts+settings+...) if my phone ever gets broken so I could collect my warranty.
And if I flash to newest firmware I will not lose all my apps+sms+contacts+settings+... cause it would be a pain to reinstall all the apps and update all my contacts & settings.

currently i use mybackup pro
it backup my apps, contacts and SMS
but it doesn't restore my settings
i search a tool to restore the phone (without the firmware itself)
so when i flash a new firmware i only need to install that tool or run that tool (if it is a script for example) and it will restore all apps/settings/contacts/sms/images....

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same.. just like u guys... i was also looking for answers and help when i created this post.. hoping that someone could point us in the right direction =)

there are programs that can backup solely the SMS or call log, just search SMS backup or Call log backup and you will find it
for contacts, i use Kies; for app, i use Astro.... that's the programs i used when i flash my SGS from the original one to JP3
if you want full restore, go for Titanium, but hat requires root
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

CWM restores back your backup to its original settings, because it takes an image of your phone os. It is just like your disk image backup of your pc or notebook. Hence, this is useful when you don't like the custom roms you have just flashed.
Titanium Backup backups all your apps and settings, but the shortcoming of it is you will have to spend a little more time to relayout your homescreen and also tweak a little of your settings. For example, I used the Missed Call 0.9.2 and I did the backup cum settings. But I still need to tweak back the actual ringtones for those settings manually.
Most will say that CWM is better, but that is not necessary. Titanium Backup will be most useful when you have flashed a rom and found that you want to keep the new rom. Now, having TB to do your backup will be very much easier in this case.
The others like Mybackup Pro, backup sms, mms, those are found in the market. Kies is good if you want to keep your contacts in the phone (not SIM or Google)
Hope this explanation helps you guys.