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How to..make a full bckup on new ROM without problems

Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!

There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.

Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)

Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.

Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!

Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!

Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?

Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Anyone?

Re: Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez

Sprite backup

i just flashed my Tilt from ATT wm6 to HTC wm6.1
I created a backup file on Sprite Backup. Now i want to restore it and it says that it can cause significant problems if i restore from a different ROM. And wants me to select a Device Upgrade File. Where do i find a Device Upgrade File?

You shouldn't do upgrades from ROM to ROM (especially if it's from 5 to 6 or 6 to 6.1). There's a whole new registry usually and a lot of different things. Just add the program files back and stuff like that, but not the registry. Better yet, reinstall everything manually.

Okay, darn. lol
Now Im learning.
Thanks

starclassic said:
i just flashed my Tilt from ATT wm6 to HTC wm6.1
I created a backup file on Sprite Backup. Now i want to restore it and it says that it can cause significant problems if i restore from a different ROM. And wants me to select a Device Upgrade File. Where do i find a Device Upgrade File?
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Just thought i'd share, the latest version of SPB backup does let you
restore after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode) & also restore a backup on another device (device upgrade mode)
here's the link: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Cheers.

The Reaper said:
Just thought i'd share, the latest version of SPB backup does let you
restore after ROM upgrade (ROM upgrade mode) & also restore a backup on another device (device upgrade mode)
here's the link: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Cheers.
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Warning: spb does not yet fully support WM6.1 for his Backup. With Kaiser (WM6.1) it does not work properly (lot of device hangs).

I Think its bricked
I when ahead and downloaded the new rom with WM6.1 for the ATT TILTfrom the HTC website and did everything to the bone and used sprite backup to backup my files but upon restoring them, my screen just boots through att logo and then shows the flying 3G symbols and then blank screen. I can get to the boot loader and but when I try to reflash my phone, using hard spl it says it cannot find my phone. I have spl 3.56 on my phone. Can anyone help me?

When you're in bootloader mode, just flash to the stock ROM and you should be fine.

Thanx all!
I just want to say thanx to everyone who responded and great thanx or asfoor for the wonderful solution for this problem which can be found here.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348659

question on spirit backup

I have a tilt with the built-in spirit backup. I tried to use it but when I did the restore after updating the rom, alot of the programs wasn't restored properly or registry info was changed back to befault. I thought Spirit was supposed to restore everything after a hardrest or a rom upgrade? Did I do it wrong or something? Because of this, my computers all want to resync all the contacts and everything all over again, which is a pain as it takes hours to resync(thats another issue, but not related to this)

Hard-reset. Yes.
Rom upgrade. No.
And the built-in sprite backup was a trial. Did you buy it? If not you're screwed. Sorry man.
Sprite is retarded in a lot of ways. You should start using PIMBackup and -UC-.
Kraize

I used the one that came with the Tilt. Ok, so what I seen already, I got screwed. What program is good to do a complete backup, where I won't need to resync(where it thinks its a whole new phone) with my activesync after the restore?

starstreak said:
I used the one that came with the Tilt. Ok, so what I seen already, I got screwed. What program is good to do a complete backup, where I won't need to resync(where it thinks its a whole new phone) with my activesync after the restore?
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The full version of Sprite is by far the best backup utility out there. SPB Back Up would come in a close second.
Sprite (full version) has an option for retoring to an "upgraded" rom. But my opinion is, if I change the rom all together (not just a hard reset) I am manually loading all my programs.

Test both extensively before purchase.

spirit backup says i don't have enough memory on my card but i have almost a gig empty. this just started. please help

by the way, this happens when i try to backup . thanks

sprite backup to Desktop PC

Hi,
was anybody able to run a successful backup from Touch Diamond to the desktop PC using sprite backup from the CD? After I installed it on the Diamond, every time I try to run a backup on the PC, it keeps telling me that it found the PC but the sprite backup service on the PC needs to run - I am unable to find the service on the PC. Any hint would be greatly appreciated. I bought a Diamond w/o branding in Germany.
Thanks
JayZee2

Hi JayZee2
mine works perfectly. Although I am not really happy with the result of the restoring a backup - still a lot of tweaks and adjustments to do.
However - here it goes: connect your TD with the PC. On the PC activate Sprite Backup PC Manager. You'll see the Icon in the lower right menu bar. Right click on this icon to set the options and eventually start a backup or restore respectively.

Hey Sorceress, thanks so much for the quick reply!
I must be doing something really stupid, I am unable to find Sprite Backup PC Manager on my PC. All I did is I installed sprite backup which came on the CD with the diamond while I had the TD connected via USB and activesync. It then has installed sprite backup on the TD but nothing on my PC - what did I do wrong and how can I fix it?
Thanks a lot
JayZee2

Here we go...
here the file you need: click here.
install and follow the instructions. btw - it's the application from the CD.
let me know if it works.
Cheers

Many thanks Sourceress, this worked
Obviusly HTC only puts the phone client on the CD in Germany.
Bye
JayZee2

Thanks from me as well
I couldn't download the sprite backup from HTC - so I am grateful for your file.

I had the same problem with the german CD.. thank you verry much

The same problem in Denmark. The CD only comes with Sprite for the phone. Strange.......

Sourceress, I have the same problem here but the yousendit link says the download limit has been reached for this file. Could you please resend it so I can also download the file?
Thanks in advance!

Agent 720 said:
The same problem in Denmark. The CD only comes with Sprite for the phone. Strange.......
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Im from Denmark, but my sprite only installs on the pc, and not on the phone
Please someone, help me get this file.. sourceress's file has expired
Well i dont know if it'll help, when i get sprite on my pc, but not on my phone.. my problem is the opposite than the others, but i really wanna try that file

Anadiz said:
Im from Denmark, but my sprite only installs on the pc, and not on the phone
Please someone, help me get this file.. sourceress's file has expired
Well i dont know if it'll help, when i get sprite on my pc, but not on my phone.. my problem is the opposite than the others, but i really wanna try that file
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ME TOO - nothing on the phone!

Sourceress said:
Here we go...
here the file you need: click here.
install and follow the instructions. btw - it's the application from the CD.
let me know if it works.
Cheers
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I had an operator locked phone, now unlocked and reflashed with a cooked ROM, so far so good.
Now I need to make a backup using the HTC Sprite tool, but the CD coming with the phone contained a operator specific set of files, and when I went to www.htc.com to get the WWE edition, I couldn't register due to the fact that my S/N is connected to the operator in question...
So now I'm hoping that some kind person with a WWE edition of the Sprite tool (PC + CAB fles) would be kind enough and make these download'ble
Thank in advance!

Sourceress said:
Here we go...
here the file you need: click here.
install and follow the instructions. btw - it's the application from the CD.
let me know if it works.
Cheers
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Hi Guys can anyone share the files again? I lost the original CD, now I need to re-install the PC app...Thanks a lot

arcticblue said:
I had an operator locked phone, now unlocked and reflashed with a cooked ROM, so far so good.
Now I need to make a backup using the HTC Sprite tool, but the CD coming with the phone contained a operator specific set of files, and when I went to www.htc.com to get the WWE edition, I couldn't register due to the fact that my S/N is connected to the operator in question...
So now I'm hoping that some kind person with a WWE edition of the Sprite tool (PC + CAB fles) would be kind enough and make these download'ble
Thank in advance!
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Same problem... It would be very nice of someone to share the file again
Thanks a lot !

This file has expired.
can anyone re-upload, please? It'd be very apprecciated, thanks \o/

ROM update -> Format?

If i update to the latest ROM (1.93), will i then lose all my data and settings? I have tweaked the phone a lil with advanced config. And added a few programs, and some are on internal storage and others on the phone itself. Im only going to update if it changes NOTHING but the updated stuff. I want to keep my tweaks, settings, programs, EXACTLY as it is. If thats not possible, then the update system sucks imo. Ill leave it as it is, cuz it took too much time tweaking every setting to suit me in the first place.

Ive recently updated my phone to the 1.93 WWE rom and it will remove all your settings from your device.
Your 4gb internal storage will be untouched (provided you follow the instructions and format your phones memory only and not the internal storage) youll be fine.
I found that programs like the Diamond Tweaker help getting the Diamond back to how I had it, altho I did do a Sprite backup, which restored all my texts and contacts, phew, so thats what was important to me. (There are options in the Sprite Backup software to backup only certain things on your phone so you can pick and choose what you like)
1.93 does have a significant speed improvement and im very happy i did upgrade (just gotta get rid of the email notification on the touchflo3D screen as it didnt back these up correctly as it says i have emails when the account isnt there)
But thats not a major issue and i haven't really looked indepth for a fix for that (im sure there is one, thats the beauty of the Diamond, there's usually a fix...somewhere!)
hehe!
If your not happy with having to restore you phone back to how you have it I dont blame you for leaving it as it is. Good luck with whatever you decide!

use sprite backup and restore using upgrade mode (level 1) all your apps/settings/preferences/pim etc will remain so long as your device doesnt change.

darthbane2k said:
use sprite backup and restore using upgrade mode (level 1) all your apps/settings/preferences/pim etc will remain so long as your device doesnt change.
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Nice one! Thanks for that. Will remember that for the next time I flash my Diamond.
You do have to watch out if you have the Call History tab add on for Touchflow that I found in the Diamond Forum as there are 2 different versions one for 1.37 roms and another for 1.93. I did try using the Sprite Backup software which restored everything but my clock was going mental.
Hard Reset the phone and then just restored my contacts and everthing's fine now. I will stress thats an add on problem and not a Sprite Backup issue.
Thanks for the heads up darthblane2k

im not sure if its a special version of sprite - but its certainly the one on the HTC e-club website.
A level 1 restore is if you are upgrading the ROM on the same device
A Level 2 restore is if you are upgrading the ROM on another diamond device
A Level 3 restore is if you are changing to another model device and only want basic info, eg PIM and stuff

Thank you all for your help. So what i have to do now is, download sprite backup from e-club? Back everything up, and then update to ROM 1.93 and then restore level 1, right?

flying-trickster said:
Thank you all for your help. So what i have to do now is, download sprite backup from e-club? Back everything up, and then update to ROM 1.93 and then restore level 1, right?
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Yes, you restore in ROM Upgrade mode. Think you have to change a setting in Sprite restore options to set it to level 1. Also you have the option to restore databases (eg emails contacts, calendar etc)

Thanks, im gonna try that now. But i dont seem to be able to find Sprite Backup anywhere on e-club. Can you tell me where i find the app? Also, where do i get Net framework 3.5 from?

Alright i found the CAB file for NET Framework 3.5 but when i run it on my phone it says it cant install right away. Anyone know why?

Nevermind. I dont feel like relying on Sprite to backup everything. And i dont feel like copying over all my files etc, to internal storage. Too annoying. Thanks anyway. Wish they made it easier.