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Hi All,
Could someone please let me know how to use the GPS in my phone. I have tried upgrading the phone to different ROMS that were supposed to enable the GPS and now I am currently using the official HTC WM6 Australia but I cannot get the GPS detected in TomTom or Google Maps. Any help on this would be very, very appreciated since one of the reasons because I bought the phone was because of the GPS...
Thanks in advance
what settings are you using for your TomTom?
Does it say "No GPS Device"?
If it says "Waiting for a valid GPS signal", then you just gotta walk outdoor and wait a few mins...
Note that it takes quite awhile for the first lock.
please state your radio version as well
GPS Problems
Hi,
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (Build 17944.0.3.1)
ROM. 3.00.707.17
ROM Date 06/29/07
Radio Version. 1.38.00.11
I use the "Other NMEA GPS receiver" /115200 GPS baud rate /GPS in COM9
and it says "waiting for a valid GPS signal..." but I have been outside the house waiting for 20 minutes and it doesn't pick up the signal. My TomTom bluetooth GPS used to pick up the signal in 1 minute.
If I get this GPS running, how long will I have to wait everytime I want to use my GPS?
Thanks
Alonso
sounds like a tom tom configuration issue.. .there are threads for this in the forum, cause your radio and rom are up to date.. (although i'd suggest a newer radio to get rid of battery drain). It definitely shouldn't take 20 minutes.. i think within 4 minutes it should be set, most of the time MUCH quicker (2min?)
Where can I get the radios
Sure, where can I get the radios updates?
Are all compatible with all the different ROM versions?
I had similar issue with Tomtom recently. After I have TomTOM software downdgraded back to version 6.010 instead of 6.030 problem is gone.
i9796674 said:
Hi,
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (Build 17944.0.3.1)
ROM. 3.00.707.17
ROM Date 06/29/07
Radio Version. 1.38.00.11
I use the "Other NMEA GPS receiver" /115200 GPS baud rate /GPS in COM9
and it says "waiting for a valid GPS signal..." but I have been outside the house waiting for 20 minutes and it doesn't pick up the signal. My TomTom bluetooth GPS used to pick up the signal in 1 minute.
If I get this GPS running, how long will I have to wait everytime I want to use my GPS?
Thanks
Alonso
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First of all, your GPS device IS detected. There is too steps when Tomtom is trying to make a GPS fix: 1) no GPS device 2) waiting for a valid signal. If you've already reached the second one it means Tomtom can sense your GPS but it cannot aquire the three satelits signal required for a valid location fix.
I would suggest you upgrade your radio. Athough the 1.38 one can work, I didn't have a good GPS with it and it tookme ages for a fix, and sometimes no fix possible.
Besides, that radio wasn't made for the newest wm6 roms.
1.46 will work way better for that.
And since Tomtom is not the lightest application for GPS testing, I would suggest you try other apps such as GPS test (which is free etc.) you'll get a fix quicker, and once you had a fix, all other applications will fix instantly too.
You can try the GPS function in the camera too, which is quite light too and fix quicker than Tomtom.
Hello,
I am trying since yesterday to make my GPS working, with no success. Everytime, I got the following message:
Cannot find port com. I do not know what the problem might be. I tried all Ports (from COM 0 to COM 12, and all Baud rates). Tried 3 differents GPS applications. Memory Map tells me for Port 0 GPS communication timeout...
In addition, I tried to play with the External GPS. I tried with Manage GPS automatically on and off. Still the same..
I begin to think my GPS unit is defective...
Any ideas would be appreciate.
Thanks very much in advance,
Philippe
did you change settings in the gps control panel?
the default settings can be left alone. COM4. Baud rate should be automatically handled and unless you enabled AGPS any baud rate will do, if you enabled AGPS then I think you have to use 2400 as your Baud.
I just noticed the GPS harddware port in setting, system External GPS is not saved when you click ente.
Exemple I choose COM4, and Baud rate: 4800. I click OK. When I reclick exernal GPS, Hardware, I have got ''none for GPS hardware port. I do not know if it might be one of the reason why the GPS does not work.
Note: I just flashed the new rom: 1.35.401.3 WWE. Might it be a bug in this ROM (just question?)
Philippe
I can cofirm TomTom working with COM4 and baud 57600. Signal pickup can be time hungry, tho. Sometimes I get a fix in 20 seconds, sometimes it takes as much as 10 minutes.
no problem using mapking...
Hello,
And thanks everybody for your help. I just updated to the new Elite 1 ROM, and now it works like a charm....Very good...
I do not know if there is many francophones on this forum, but there is a new french forum about the Diamond:
http://htc-touch-diamond.forumactif.info/index.htm
Not very busy yet, but....
Cheers,
Philippe
Same problem... The tomtom 6 don't detect my integrated gps... if i chose the wired and put ports like say before, it don't work too.. Any way for detect integrated gps?
Here are exactly my setting:
Setting system External GPS:
GPS program port: COM 4
GPS hardware port: None
Baud rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically is checked.
So open your GPS program, choose COM Port 4, and baud rate: 4800.
Should work. If not, flashthe new Elite ROM. It could help too.
Philippe
I can't flash the rom, it will make the warranty expire... And the mobile isn't mine, it's destined to be selled, i work on a gsm shop...
got exactly opposite problem - when I leave these default settings in "External GPS" CPL, the Diamond will suck my batterry within several hours, as if the GPS was still ON. have found out that if I disable all settings in this CPL, it stops sucking power (but then I can't use the GPS, obviously) - any clues or solutions?
I HAD to enable Windows Mobile manages automatic in External GPS in 'settings'. Check if it is enabled.
Disabling it made GPS never work.
Strange?
Yes, unless I restored all settings to their original values (Virtual port - COM4, HW port - None, Managed access - checked), I was not able to use the GPS. But these were exactly the settings I was having the battery drain issue with... I miss the GPS LED indication vastly...
I am have this problerm too...
Solution : make hard reset.. no more!
And all will be ok ... about GPS.
i have same proplem
i have same proplem when i updat to the new rom 1.93
I have a similar Problem.
I Updates my ROM to the new branded one from O2-Germany and since then my GPS is not working anymore. in GPSMapware I get device.exe errors and TomTom7 keeps searching and searching and so on...
The old O2 ROM has no GPS problems and every software got a loc in about 10 - 20 seconds.
But the most intresting point is that my brother has a Diamond too and no GPS problems at all.
I think I will get a new one from O2 before flashing it and loose my warrenty
Telus CDMA Diamond
I've got problem too. First Diamond I had no problem with GPS, something happened with the phone I had to exchange, and new one (phone) GPS wouldn't pickup Sat. I'm on Telus CDMA. Maybe they removed physically on the second batch of Diamonds.
My GPS doesn't work too well either. I can usually get a fix eventually when outside with a clear view of the sky but in the car it is hopeless. I use TT7 and the GPS status screen shows that the Diamond can see maybe half a dozen satellites or so but with very low signal strength. The bars stay grey for ages and then eventually three or four will turn blue and all the time the battery is draining like crazy. I also have a Holux GPSlim 256 and with that I get a fix much faster and the signal strength is much higher. I can also use it in the car with no problem.
I have to say I'm pretty disappointed with the GPS performance of the Diamond and from the number of posts in this forum from people with similar problems I would suggest that there is a design flaw or very poor quality control. I had an XDA Orbit 2 for a while and that was far superior.
Me too
my diamond have the same problem too.
it was working with the old rom's and the early new
but later with new rom's it is locked, I don't know why or how to fix it.
then I back to the last good one but still locked.
it seem's working fine, because the software is detect the gps device and also detect it on port 4 and baud speed, but without signal any more.
I used Garmin, Destenator, iGo, fanaeen, and gps test.
and I try to use all avaliable solutions
I used all diamond rom's here and used all radio version's even the hardspl I changed it too with no succeed.
any advice would be help!
thanks in advanced
Hi,
I own two diamonds and I also found problems with the GPS in both of them. Probably mine is not the same you are describing. What I get is the following:
Running TT7, the GPS works but TT7 map in the screen remains in grey color. Rarely it shows color for some seconds and l"oses signal" again. It navigates, but no messages on proximity of POIs work. Also, when driving, if TT7 is forced to recalculate (every time I do not follow the instructions), it forgets about the required destination. In the GPS configuration option within TT7 it does not show satellites, the bars are empty and the coordinates shown are grey... but showing values!
Finally, I found the reason. I use Bluefire VPN, a piece of software to connect securely to my company. The GPS and Bluefire cannot live together.
I have tried everything: TomTom 6, changing COM port (many combinations)for the GPS, A-GPS on and off... No way.
It worked perfectly in P3600. I tried many ROMS and pieces of software without problems but in the Diamond I haven't been able.
Perhaps the reason is some resident code of Bluefire. Don't know. In any case, if this is a case similar to any of you, my advice is the following:
Hard reset, install TT7 and maps and test the GPS. If it works, start installing software until it crashes.
In my case, the GPS is always dead after the soft reset required after the installation of Bluefire, and it works again after another soft reset once Bluefire is uninstalled.
Hope it helps and hope somebody can also help me solve this issue.
SOLVED
Hi guys
Here is my solution.
First you have to flash 1.13.25.24 radio rom sometimes it can be solve the problem.If not you must open your phone with Htc service manual and find gps coaxial cable and check it.Sometimes it can be pulled out.Mine antenna was unconnected and gps couldnot find any satellites.Sorry for my bad english.
Over the last few days I have noticed that my GPS is not really working anymore. I'm not sure if this is a result of some software I've loaded or whatever, but I've noticed a few people saying that they are no longer locking onto satellites and noone is really sure what they've done - although there is a thread about the new Clove extended battery and many have mentioned that it stops the GPS from working.
I'd like to get everyone who is having problems to post here please so we can try and work out what the cause is. Some have speculated that it could be the radio but I don't think it is, I've flashed every single radio available with no change...
When I first got my diamond, I was IMPRESSED at the speed and accuracy of the GPS. I would get locks in around 10-15 seconds and using TomTom 7 I found it to be extremely accurate with regards to my position on the map.
Now it SUCKS. The other day I drove and it took 18 minutes to get a fix. When it finally did I estimate it was between 50m - 100m inaccurate. Some kind of lag is going on.
As of the last two days, I cant even seem to track ANY satellites. Since then, like I mentioned I have tried every radio and still the situation remains bad.
- I'm running a cooked ROM based on the 1.93.xx.x. (Elite 3.0)
- Current radio is .11 which seems to work well for my push email. (.05 worked well too) Other than that over the last couple of days its just been push email, a few texts and calls and really nothing else special I'm doing with the device.
Can anyone having the same problems please post here with your ROM version and let us know what your experiences are.
Thanks.
I have the same problem
Rom 1.93 - swift.
radio .05
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
sonyuk143 said:
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
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No.. Its just the GPS data thats used by the gps to get a quicker lock on the satelites.. Which then only saves you time.. It does not cost you anything besides the trafik it uses to update the data..
sonyuk143 said:
I recently bought 'htc diamond'.
I have a doubt. GPS service is for 'FREE' or we have to pay?
My phone says 'GPS download valid: 4 days. It means i can download GPS for free until another 4 days? kIndly let me know I am a newbie.
thank you in advance
Sony
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gps is for free, the "4 days" corresponds to the time which your device
has the almanach data for faster satellite lock in it's memory. after this time
quickgps will download the alamanach data for the next 7 days, and so on...
if you don't use this feature you still can use gps, but obtaining a fix will
take you a longer time!
regards,
markus
Please look at my post at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408560
I have noticed that it is also dependent on the Rom. I am into flashing different roms and have seen different behaviour of Gps with each rom.
But HARD reset is a must after each flash.
Let me know your findings.
Got my GPS working in TomTom..
Steps i took:
1: change in PPC the gps port to COM6 - So still at Baud 4800
2: TomTom - Gps configure - "Other NMEA GPS reciver" - Baud 4800 - "COM6"
3: Closed TomTom
4: changed in PPC the GPS port back to "COM4" - still baud 4800
5: TomTom - Gps configure - "Build in gps"
And done.
I have this problem- the GPS seems to get worse and worse after a hard reset or rom upgrade to the point where it won't lock on at all.
I have noticed that in TT7 a number of satellites are being found (in the gps menu)but they are greyed out. Despite this it just won't lock on however long i leave it.
I notized that I was sometimes unable to track any satellites because I swiched on "A-GPS" in the registry with some kind of editor. After switching it off the problem was gone.
Greetz
Yes, Advanced Config destroy your GPS if you use it to turn on A-GPS.
Try reflashing the Radio with the same build as you are using already. It resets the GPS and did the trick for me.
How can you turn on A-GPS in the registry? Which key is it?
I have the same problems: when I use the GPS, it finds some satellites and not, and back it finds them, and not. When I use tomtom 6, the screen turns grey and colored every 5 sec., because it finds the satellites and not.
Sometimes it works good, but mostly not.
Can somebody help!!!
ROM: 1.35.404.4 NLD
Rom date: 05/30/08
Radio: 0.93.25.NS26
Protocolversion: 52.26.25.09H
jonnytheponny said:
How can you turn on A-GPS in the registry? Which key is it?
I have the same problems: when I use the GPS, it finds some satellites and not, and back it finds them, and not. When I use tomtom 6, the screen turns grey and colored every 5 sec., because it finds the satellites and not.
Sometimes it works good, but mostly not.
Can somebody help!!!
ROM: 1.35.404.4 NLD
Rom date: 05/30/08
Radio: 0.93.25.NS26
Protocolversion: 52.26.25.09H
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There is a little tool which is called "HTC GPS TOOL(S)", dont remember the exact name.. there you can search for satelites using the "cold start" option.. when some satelites are found, then push the "Nav. Init." buttion", dont close the program, just start TomTom and se if it did lock? .. Some reported this method working..
ostendk said:
Got my GPS working in TomTom..
Steps i took:
1: change in PPC the gps port to COM6 - So still at Baud 4800
2: TomTom - Gps configure - "Other NMEA GPS reciver" - Baud 4800 - "COM6"
3: Closed TomTom
4: changed in PPC the GPS port back to "COM4" - still baud 4800
5: TomTom - Gps configure - "Build in gps"
And done.
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I did things a little differently to yourself, but certainly your general method has solved the problem!
Firstly, and I don't know if this is a result of the radio version I'm running but I only have COM4 and COM7. Running radio .11
Secondly, within TomTom I simply configured the GPS, I changed to other NMEA receiver, selected COM4, and Baud 4800, and then within about 10 seconds, I had a lock. This is after days of not getting a lock at all.
Restarted TomTom, switched back to 'Internal GPS Receiver' and almost instantly locked again.
Problem solved!
I had done many ROM updates and not noticed this effect, I believe now thinking back this must have been a direct result of updating the radio only from version .03 to .05
I will update the thread title.
salada2k said:
I did things a little differently to yourself, but certainly your general method has solved the problem!
Firstly, and I don't know if this is a result of the radio version I'm running but I only have COM4 and COM7. Running radio .11
Secondly, within TomTom I simply configured the GPS, I changed to other NMEA receiver, selected COM4, and Baud 4800, and then within about 10 seconds, I had a lock. This is after days of not getting a lock at all.
Restarted TomTom, switched back to 'Internal GPS Receiver' and almost instantly locked again.
Problem solved!
I had done many ROM updates and not noticed this effect, I believe now thinking back this must have been a direct result of updating the radio only from version .03 to .05
I will update the thread title.
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I did actually update to the .05 radio, which after i had the satelite lock problem.. but haven't had i since i did that little com-port exchange
Hi,
After an hard reset un my Diamond and after instalall the .net framwork 3.5 my gps dont work anymore. When i turn it on connects the gprs and stay lots of minutes finding the sattelites.
Before the hard reste i have the tomtom working perfectely and never my htc connects the gprs for noting.
Can anyone help me please.
Regards,
Hi.to everybody in this forum.I have an HTC Diamond previously locked to Orange Uk now unlocked to all networks ....with your help.
But I face a great problem!!
GPS is not locating satellites at all!!!
Before you ask me if I have read through out the forum, YES I DID (A LOT).
I tried everything, HTC GPS tool , GPS TEST , hard resets ,soft resets ,mpla mpla .....everything...but no result.
CAN you help??PLSSSS
My Htc comes with the new ROm 1.93
you didn't get a fix from the beginning or was it already working once?
what app are u using?
the gps i configured correctly?
app sees the GPS module?
start in this way, then we can talk...
I had same problem ,after my provider update (the radio maybe) it solve the problem. check what is your radio version and tell us..
g-fall said:
you didn't get a fix from the beginning or was it already working once?
what app are u using?
the gps i configured correctly?
app sees the GPS module?
start in this way, then we can talk...
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Never worked from beginning!
I use destinator 7,all settings are correct and the most strange of all is that application actually can see the GPS module in COM4!!
arix said:
I had same problem ,after my provider update (the radio maybe) it solve the problem. check what is your radio version and tell us..
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ROM:1.93.405.1 WWE
RADIO:1.00.25.05
I hope i dont have to get involved into this since the phone was bought from ebay (UK) and I leave in Greece!!.Now phone is unlocked and I think I will not be able to contact Orange network for update.
I don't know what I had b4, but now mine is:
ROM:1.93.456.2 WWE
RADIO:1.00.25.05
Seems like your ROM version is kinda old,
Maybe one of the guru here can help you,
or update your ROM by yourself (your own risk)
com port 4, baud 57600, gps enables - this is what i use in iGO8 and works perfect
what is set in "setings->system->External GPS"? Here you can find some settings also
programs - com4
hardware - GPS HWport none , baude 4800
access - tick manage GPS automatically
g-fall said:
com port 4, baud 57600, gps enables - this is what i use in iGO8 and works perfect
what is set in "setings->system->External GPS"? Here you can find some settings also
programs - com4
hardware - GPS HWport none , baude 4800
access - tick manage GPS automatically
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Those are the settings I have as well!!
I lost gps functionality after flashing to a new ROM.
Radio .07 and doing a "warm start" in htc gps tools got it working again, now from cold (ie initialising device to getting lock) is 25 seconds. (20 seconds to initialize gps, 5 seconds to get a lock!)
Try using gps gate,it will automatically configure gps settings and then start destinator,it should detect the inbuilt gps receiver and give you a fix,I had exactly the same problem with destinator 7, it just would not detect gps after using gps gate everythings fine,hope this helps.
arvind09 said:
Try using gps gate,it will automatically configure gps settings and then start destinator,it should detect the inbuilt gps receiver and give you a fix,I had exactly the same problem with destinator 7, it just would not detect gps after using gps gate everythings fine,hope this helps.
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How do I use the gps gate? Where do I have to go at first place?
ok found it ..I will try this as well.
Please update your radio to .07. I had the problem of not getting a fix. The GPS Info showed many satellites but none would get a fix. I went for a radio update to .07 & now, even when the GPS signal is in RED I get navigation working.... perfectly. Touch wood
Skele said:
Please update your radio to .07. I had the problem of not getting a fix. The GPS Info showed many satellites but none would get a fix. I went for a radio update to .07 & now, even when the GPS signal is in RED I get navigation working.... perfectly. Touch wood
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I am using GPSGATE now to try it out.I have already downloaded radio 07 and it will be my next move if gpsgate is no use
babis5570 said:
I am using GPSGATE now to try it out.I have already downloaded radio 07 and it will be my next move if gpsgate is no use
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gpsgate did not work either!!!!
I am trying to update Radio to 07 with RUU but it just stays in 0%.
Any help plssss????
Changed the radio but still the same .It will not find any satellites.Maybe the gps chipset is %^$%$#.
ok, your GPS module is detcted, right?
In GPS test, can you see signal of satelites or not?
Flash your radio again and do intermediate hard reset before phone fully boots. If doesn't work flash both rom and radio (hard reset after each!). Just had the same problem on my diamond (solved today) and had it in the past on Kaiser. GPS detected, gps tool see sats but they are permanently red and flat (like they wouldn't have any strengh at all) And its always to do with radio so don't worry about your chipset.
I just read another thread and found this:
Both posts from LoardDark
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POST394:
Hi,
After i had some GPS-Problems (no Sattelite link etc.) i tested many combinations on my own. At the End this works on two Diamonds:
1. Follow the "Unlock description" if necessary
2. Flash your ROM (i used the AZTOR V6)
3. Hard-Reset your Device! <- Important
4. check Com-Port
5. Cold Boot yor GPS
6. Warm Boot yor GPS
7. Hot Boot your GPS
8. No link-Problems, no Lags and very fast Sattelite link (after a few Tests: First Sattelite Link ca. 2 min. After first using GPS ca. 20 sec. to Sattelite-Link)
Important: After installing "Sensor-Lock" my GPS was completely Dead.
I don`t read the completely Thread but i hope this is a little bit helpful.
Greetings
Jerry
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POST 408
At first start GPS Tool -> QualcommChip "Yes" -> Cold Boot
then start GPS Tool -> QualcommChip "Yes" -> Warm Boot
at least start GPS Tool -> QualcommChip "Yes" -> type X -> Hot Boot
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here is the link for GPS tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477
this is actually for improving the GPS lag but maybe helping for you...
good luck!
arvind09 said:
Try using gps gate,it will automatically configure gps settings and then start destinator,it should detect the inbuilt gps receiver and give you a fix,I had exactly the same problem with destinator 7, it just would not detect gps after using gps gate everythings fine,hope this helps.
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Can you find the link for gps gate, what i found on google was kinda weird! please need it desperetly
hi,
I'm a ROgers diamond user.
tomtom 7 is installd, and it always ask me if i'm inside a building.
i check with GPS status in tomtom, same thinh, ( are you inside a building) poor gps reception...
i was outside tryin to connect...i wonder if someone got this issue.
thank you,
Usually when TomTom says, "poor reception, are u in a building" That tells me that it has been configured properly and it's searching for a signal.
Couple of things...
1) in Configure (found under change preferrences///show GPS Status)
• select built-in GPS receiver (this will automatize the config)
2) update QuickGPS
3) Try the above first .....next step is to HardSPL your device first and try and another Radio.
I'm currently using 1.08.25.20. I also had 1.00.25.08 and this worked fine for GPS as well.
Couple of things...
1) in Configure (found under change preferrences///show GPS Status)
• select built-in GPS receiver (this will automatize the config)
Done
2) update QuickGPS
DOne
3) Try the above first .....next step is to HardSPL your device first and try and another Radio.
I'm currently using 1.08.25.20. I also had 1.00.25.08 and this worked fine for GPS as well
I'm using 1.00.25.06 - HardSPL would not break my current rom ?
i ran into the same problem a while back
but as i was planning an update anyway, i did a hard-reset, installed new hard-spl and updated rom and radio
works like a charm again
if it ever occurs again, i'll do the same process... having the latest updates is always good
search for "htc gps tool"
some other weird thing is when I'm in my home town (or near my house) it seems my tt7 gets a quicker fix than otherwise I'm further away from home...
vrolok71 said:
search for "htc gps tool"
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thats the main tool ...thx a lot
other thing i´ve read that have worked is to try to change the receptor gps in the Tom tom configuration to:
Other GPS NMEA / 4800 / com4
I had the same problem. My GPS has been working fine since I disabled A-GPS.
i have the same problem........and i have found why. It was because i have changed the battery 900m Ah to an 1800 mAh....
with the larger battery, it was unable to have a fix.......and when i replace the little battery....all become in order.....( and i have the same issue with all roms i tried (general and radio)).....
I haven t found solution