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...or is it just me? Some are really, really nice, but all seem to have one fundamental flaw for me. They suck at dialing. I could see if it happened once in a while, but about 1/2 the wrong digit, despite using just the tip of my finger. God forbid I actually use the pad of my finger.
For instance... I'll go for the 2, but get an 8 or 0 or something equally ridiculous. Of course, if I use the stylus, I don't have any issues.
I'm past the point of thinking it's a dialer software problem. I was thinking it might be a sensitivity issue, but it has been this way with every ROM I've tried, and regardless of where I put the sensitivity setting.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I don't have the same issue with my girlfriend's Treo 750. The touch screen on that dials just fine, both with the stock ROM and the 6.1 WWE version we're running now.
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...or is it just me? Some are really, really nice, but all seem to have one fundamental flaw for me. They suck at dialing. I could see if it happened once in a while, but about 1/2 the wrong digit, despite using just the tip of my finger. God forbid I actually use the pad of my finger.
For instance... I'll go for the 2, but get an 8 or 0 or something equally ridiculous. Of course, if I use the stylus, I don't have any issues.
I'm past the point of thinking it's a dialer software problem. I was thinking it might be a sensitivity issue, but it has been this way with every ROM I've tried, and regardless of where I put the sensitivity setting.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I don't have the same issue with my girlfriend's Treo 750. The touch screen on that dials just fine, both with the stock ROM and the 6.1 WWE version we're running now.
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You know it is disappointing that a member with 269 posts still doesn't know where to post this kind of information. Wrong forum, and i am willing to be there are other threads to complain about sucky dialers.
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You know it is disappointing that a member with 269 posts still doesn't know where to post this kind of information. Wrong forum, and i am willing to be there are other threads to complain about sucky dialers.
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I've posted, and see posted, stuff like this before in the Kaiser main forum, and have seen people complain that it's in the "wrong forum". Where do you propose I put this? One though is that it's a ROM issue, because other programs touch features work just fine.
...and I did search. I did a search for "dialer wrong number" and "inaccurate dialer". The only thread I found that was relevant was this one, which turned out to be a ***** fest.
This is a grey area, so for you to just call this thread out "is disappointing".
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Word!
*Gots to get my post count up!*
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Wow, what do you call this? It's not even relevant to the thread. I could honestly give two hoots about my post count. I don't come here to win competitions on who can post the most. I am a member of many forums where my post count is higher than this, but I barely notice.
Word. What a tard.
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I've posted, and see posted, stuff like this before in the Kaiser main forum, and have seen people complain that it's in the "wrong forum". Where do you propose I put this? One though is that it's a ROM issue, because other programs touch features work just fine.
This is a grey area, so for you to just call this thread out "is disappointing".
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Dialers would be a software issue, and i'm confident this thread will eventually be moved either to Kaiser Software or Kaiser general. Honestly i believe the issue is that a lot of the dialers are actually ported from other devices. Most of them were not designed for the Kaiser originally. The stock dialer that comes with the AT&T rom actually performs much better in my option than any of the dual touch dialer, which is the most common dialer to find in cooked roms. Just my opinion, I should have posted this in my post. My apologies.
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Word!
*Gots to get my post count up!*
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Absolutely nothing of value to add??? Maybe you shouldn't post. If you want to get your post count up, i recommend that you spend time learning, and then post helpful suggestions to other users who have questions.
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Word. What a tard.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. We should all be respectful, even when people don't deserve it. Just report offensive posts.
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Dialers would be a software issue, and i'm confident this thread will eventually be moved either to Kaiser Software or Kaiser general. Honestly i believe the issue is that a lot of the dialers are actually ported from other devices. Most of them were not designed for the Kaiser originally. The stock dialer that comes with the AT&T rom actually performs much better in my option than any of the dual touch dialer, which is the most common dialer to find in cooked roms. Just my opinion, I should have posted this in my post. My apologies.
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No, if you feel this should honestly be in another thread, then you should say so. If, like you say, it is an issue with ported dialers, then it belongs here, as the cooks using these dialers should fix the issue.
Absolutely nothing of value to add??? Maybe you shouldn't post. If you want to get your post count up, i recommend that you spend time learning, and then post helpful suggestions to other users who have questions.
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No, if you feel this should honestly be in another thread, then you should say so. If, like you say, it is an issue with ported dialers, then it belongs here, as the cooks using these dialers should fix the issue.
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Guess we'll see Dialer actually have nothing to do with rom development. They are just an add-on software that people change as they see fit.
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*laughing to no one, drooling on his shirt and wipes a booger on his screen*
Tard?
Go to Guitar Center and pick yerself up a Jim Dunlop Metal Finger Pick. ...problem solved.
*Adds yet another 'notch' toward his posting milestone of 4.37 billion posts*
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Please stop. Your post has been reported, and as such i will not reply to any more of your posts. You should treat the other members with respect.
Enough....back to top of the thread.
I have GIANT fingers. MOD EDIT: Congratulations! ... and I have no problems dialing. Also, I have issues trying to see the screen while I am driving MOD EDIT: Glad you have a license! ...so I use voice dialing more often while driving.
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try this dialer skin
Your aren't alone with this.....but i found a great dialer skin below that works even with pad touch! Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408005&page=1
all touch screen dialers for any phone can't be perfect. It takes a lot of practice aiming your fingers to find the sweet spot on these dialers.
It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
Crap, I just about called 911 by accident when I tried to call 611 yesterday.
I don't care who people want to say is responsible, cooks or people who port; I'm near ready to go back to an OEM ROM.
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It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
Crap, I just about called 911 by accident when I tried to call 611 yesterday.
I don't care who people want to say is responsible, cooks or people who port; I'm near ready to go back to an OEM ROM.
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Totally agree.
When i call in a hurry i almost always get at least one digit wrong.
It is really frustrating.
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It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
Crap, I just about called 911 by accident when I tried to call 611 yesterday.
I don't care who people want to say is responsible, cooks or people who port; I'm near ready to go back to an OEM ROM.
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maybe you ought to worry more about the practicality of the phone you're using given your circumstances.
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It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
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Sorry, but I have to ask....
Should we be "Tossing" our Kaisers?????
Just seems to me if you have to "Toss" this wonderful phone, that I hope you have the insurance plan on it in case the person your tossing it to doesn't catch it.
The Diamond dialer linked above, combined with editing the registry to increase the TouchPanel sensitivity to 5000, makes it very easy to dial with huge thumbs like mine.
I raised a similar thread a while back based on trying to make the Kaiser more finger friendly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376271
My top suggestion for you is to install Finger-Friendly Friends http://www.jotto.no/fff/ which is so quick to find contacts with fat/clumsy finger usage. It obviously doesn't remove the issue of when you want to dial a new number, but I highly recommend you try it out.
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Sorry, but I have to ask....
Should we be "Tossing" our Kaisers?????
Just seems to me if you have to "Toss" this wonderful phone, that I hope you have the insurance plan on it in case the person your tossing it to doesn't catch it.
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Sometimes literal can be a simile for anal. Let's not become too much of either and use a bit of common sense instead.
For the other fellow above:
As for my choice in phones, it may be a toy for you, but it's my PIM and life organiser (I have adhd, so a good PIM is like a second Rx) and it's also a phone. If it can't function properly as a phone, then I should just buy an iPhone, or a Nokia. Or stick to OEM softs.
XDA seems to be filled with people who think they can cook a ROM better than HTC or AT&T, and yet there's this dialer issue.
Not trying to insult anyone in particular, just asking, what gives?
If anyone has a useful link to a dialer that works well, with nice big buttons AND smart dial, please speak up.
If we were in a ROM/app release thread, there would be an effort to keep the thread on topic and keep posts useful. I don't feel you two gentlepersons have been terrible useful.
rfarnell said:
I raised a similar thread a while back based on trying to make the Kaiser more finger friendly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376271
My top suggestion for you is to install Finger-Friendly Friends http://www.jotto.no/fff/ which is so quick to find contacts with fat/clumsy finger usage. It obviously doesn't remove the issue of when you want to dial a new number, but I highly recommend you try it out.
Rob
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Yes, I've tried it. Very nice app. Unfortunately I can't foresee all the numbers I need to all for the next day/week/month... so a functional dialer would still be useful.
I also wonder if the increasing sensitivity of the touch screen for touchflo/iclone apps contributes to dialer suckiness... Anyone confirm this?
Has anyone extracted the rhodium dialer into a cab? I want to install on top of my topaz rom as the topaz dialer is buggy as hell
dont expect too much , i have the Rhodium Dailer , its slider is also buggy as hell
Well, I personally couldn't care less if the slider is buggy, perfect or non-existent. But I definitely want the ability to enter contact details directly from the dialer.
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Well, I personally couldn't care less if the slider is buggy, perfect or non-existent. But I definitely want the ability to enter contact details directly from the dialer.
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can we bump this?
can anyone help?
please guys - someone must have this dialer cabbed
Damn...i don't know about you, but there are people that are working (or other things).
why thrying to bump up the thread three times today, while one bump is enough.
In the time you post this posts you was able to find what youre asking for.
I dont have the daler cabbed, but seen some around... just search
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Damn...i don't know about you, but there are people that are working (or other things).
why thrying to bump up the thread three times today, while one bump is enough.
In the time you post this posts you was able to find what youre asking for.
I dont have the daler cabbed, but seen some around... just search
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You think I havent searched?
Problem is there is no centralised place for all this manila 3 stuff.
All I have found are cab files for the old stock blackstone dialer. Problem is I have flashed a topaz based ROM, but the topaz dialler is very buggy - hence I wish to install Rhodium dialer
why in the ROM developmentt forum? the Q&A forum is the general one. let us watch the ROM threads please.
why bump it 3 times?
sames go for yr other thread "why oh why". i think you got what you asked for. did you add [solved] ? did you said thank you?
it is like we owe you something here and if we don't comply you'll keep bugging us like a spoiled child. and stop complaining if it's possible..please, pretty, pretty please... you complained in the last week or so about fonts, contacts and now..the dialer and i am sure that's not all...buy an iPhone.
please, be sensible to what other ppl want also and obey the rules of the forum.
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why in the ROM developmentt forum? the Q&A forum is the general one. let us watch the ROM threads please.
why bump it 3 times?
sames go for yr other thread "why oh why". i think you got what you asked for. did you add [solved] ? did you said thank you?
it is like we owe you something here and if we don't comply you'll keep bugging us like a spoiled child. and stop complaining if it's possible..please, pretty, pretty please... you complained in the last week or so about fonts, contacts and now..the dialer and i am sure that's not all...buy an iPhone.
please, be sensible to what other ppl want also and obey the rules of the forum.
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1) Yes I did say thank you - on the thread
2) Yes I didnt like how HTC changed the fonts in the new manila, they are too large - was I the only one to say this? No. Did you complain when others mentioned this, no.
3) I didnt complain about contacts - I love the new contacts, but the problem is there are inconsistancies in Manila with regards to what links to the new contacts manager.
4) The topaz dialer is buggy - I would like to install the rhodium one. So what? At the moment I have reverted to the default stock dialer, but that doesnt link to the new contacts manager and other functions. Is it so bad to want a cab to be put up for rhodium dialer? No.
5) I am very much a contributor in many ways - just because I dont cook roms, theres no need to show me such disrespect. And I dont see what iPhone has to do with anything.
Can some mod lock this one???
... what a babies around here...
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1) Yes I did say thank you - on the thread
2) Yes I didnt like how HTC changed the fonts in the new manila, they are too large - was I the only one to say this? No. Did you complain when others mentioned this, no.
3) I didnt complain about contacts - I love the new contacts, but the problem is there are inconsistancies in Manila with regards to what links to the new contacts manager.
4) The topaz dialer is buggy - I would like to install the rhodium one. So what? At the moment I have reverted to the default stock dialer, but that doesnt link to the new contacts manager and other functions. Is it so bad to want a cab to be put up for rhodium dialer? No.
5) I am very much a contributor in many ways - just because I dont cook roms, theres no need to show me such disrespect. And I dont see what iPhone has to do with anything.
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I am amazed that you are trying to defend yourself C'mon dude... don't be like that being a Sr. member. You should have realized what was being pointed out there. Give it a rest. Go to the General forum and try to post your requests there... Probably in a relevant thread.
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please guys - someone must have this dialer cabbed
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How about here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524797
If not, you may need to replace another Topaz one, like this:
http://miri.warsoft.com/cabs/Miri_Topaz_PhoneCanvas.cab
I posted this Idea on PPCgeeks and was told to better post it here since all the GREAT developpers are here.
What would be really cool, if some developer would mod/tweak the weather tab or the weather on home screen with women animation for sene 2.1 and 2.5.
Example:
1-Sunny - an animated swimming suit model
2-Cold - a animated women with white coat on
3-Windy - animated Marilyn Monroe with her signature pic, flying white dress
I think that would be nice and an extreme hit.
Clever idea.
Not a developer, but most of the weather apps simply use a different numbered .png file for each condition. It would be fairly easy to replace them with static images of different woman pictures. The animation may be a bit trickier...
hahaha... I like the idea
Great idea. i hope it will be done some day=)
Most of the work for this would be more graphical and skinning then actual software development.
So i moved this thread.
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Most of the work for this would be more graphical and skinning then actual software development.
So i moved this thread.
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You're so right ! people want skin and very graphic descriptions
I can help with the image editing if anyone can tell me details on what would need to be done
Unfortunately I can't tell you anything about it, but you could ask HERE or even track down and ask directly the 2 users who made the mods you can find in post 5 of that thread. Just read a few pages back from the end.
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Unfortunately I can't tell you anything about it, but you could ask HERE or even track down and ask directly the 2 users who made the mods you can find in post 5 of that thread. Just read a few pages back from the end.
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well can be done with towolfs 3d weather... it uses the swf file for the animation so you need to make appropriate swf file and change it....
wow~i like this idea!! this is so cool
looking forward for this
Woah...
This is an awesome idea, and I can't WAIT until this is done. I'll def be following this thread. Let's make it happen.
and maybe a version for those of us that like the boy types?
I've never posted but I can't figure this out. I searched Google but the only sense roms I found were from February. In xda-nexus-development there are a bunch of themes stock roms, but I don't see any full sense roms. I remember when I had the g1 and the sense roms were slow but everything except Bluetooth worked. I'm sure by now there's a Rom that pretty much makes my nexus into a desire, I really want to try out full sense. But I can't find one anywhere. I know the question sounds dumb but ive seriously looked, I even downloaded Rom manager and looked through its lost. I know it exists because it existed for the g1 and the nexus blows the g1 away. Sorry, I need help.
I call bull**** that you've searched.
As of right now, the sense rom thread is holding a very prominent position in its respective forum.
Not all that helpful, but here's a few tips ronjeremy. Use the advanced search, you can narrow your search out with it (choose only the forum sections you need). Second, look in the development section, you usually find all roms there.
For instance, for Nexus One try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559
Why don't people use the search bar? It takes even longer to wait for people to respond than to just "search" the damned thing.
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I call bull**** that you've searched.
As of right now, the sense rom thread is holding a very prominent position in its respective forum.
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can you link me to "the sense rom thread"? I believe you that it exists, but it must not have the word in the title because when i searched on google, i found "sense" roms that were very old, when i searched this forum there was 1 thread with the word "sense" in it, none with the word "desire". No Bull****. So I dont know what to tell you, maybe i should look in every rom post and if there arent screen pics maybe i should flash every rom? Because its definitely a lot faster to post a question than open every single rom thread.
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Why don't people use the search bar? It takes even longer to wait for people to respond than to just "search" the damned thing.
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i tried, i just want a plain sense rom and i couldnt find it
Not gonna link you to it, you'll never learn how to search. I'm glad others aren't spoon feeding it to you either.
Just head into the right forum, hit CONTROL+F and search for "sense" or "desire." Even without searching, I can see TWO sense rom threads within the first page of the appropriate forum.
And when you search in the forum, just search for titles only and just search for "sense" or "desire" in the right forum.
@erikikaz you are too cool
dont know why you would even want sense (unless you absolutely need the htc facebook app or the FM radio)... sense was great about 2 years ago
vanilla froyo + adw/qd, etc have far surpassed the sense UI
I'm using CM 6 with black notification bar, imported sense live wallpaper and launcher pro plus (which is adding sense-like widgets constantly), and the weather and clock widget and I get a sense-like experience without the graphical glitches and Rom bugs. Yeah I paid for some of it, but supporting developers is never a bad thing and once purchased the app is mine across any Rom I install. Unlike sense.
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Not gonna link you to it, you'll never learn how to search. I'm glad others aren't spoon feeding it to you either.
Just head into the right forum, hit CONTROL+F and search for "sense" or "desire." Even without searching, I can see TWO sense rom threads within the first page of the appropriate forum.
And when you search in the forum, just search for titles only and just search for "sense" or "desire" in the right forum.
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You have no friends. Is this supposed to be some sort of lessen that you are blessing me with? Because I think you're a douche bag getting some sort of loser-jollies from withholding a link to an internet thread, its sad. But its also funny, but I'm sure you're no stranger to people laughing at you. So what are you fat? Got a lazy eye? Maybe your boyfriend told you that your peckers tiny? Get over yourself, I did search, I'm not allowed to post links, but believe me I'd post the link for you. Now I'm on my nexus one, when I press "search forum" the search box appears and disappears so what next? Maybe you could hit me with another one of your life-changing, eye-opening, "this hurts me more than it hurts you" queer lessens? i see one by "evil" which isnt right, i see one in a guide by paul which is 2.1, is that as new as it gets? no flash on sense on nexus one?
well. i think the closest rom you'll find is the MCR, Modaco Custom Rom. i waited for those rom too, but idk why, it seems the development was canceled. i don't know for sure. try to look for MCR in android development.
In fact there was/is no completed Sense Froyo port until now.
evil's NXSense ROM is almost complete now (besides USB mount notification and some small BT quirks).
There's Alpha of kingclick's Desire Froyo port (not on the forum).
Look them up, flash, compare, see what you like.
thanks for the replies, i tried modaco it was pretty great, but i instantly missed flash and wifi hotspot setting. But the rom was really smooth, if a froyo one pops up im in. Is the evil one you are talking about going to be themed like his current one or will it be the way it is supposed to be?
Oh no, you've hurt my feelings. It's just terribly unfortunate that none of your descriptions fit me. I've tutored many kids like yourself. You try to teach them through the Socratic method and all they do is reverse their inability or unwillingness to work through a problem on you, blaming you for their failures. Nothing new.
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Is this supposed to be some sort of lessen that you are blessing me with?
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So tell me, did control+F work for you or not? And if it didn't, did you heed my advice and actually just head over to those forums to look at the first page of posts? If so, you're welcome.
ronjeremy11 said:
Now I'm on my nexus one, when I press "search forum" the search box appears and disappears so what next? Maybe you could hit me with another one of your life-changing, eye-opening, "this hurts me more than it hurts you" queer lessens?
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Don't be so easy, sheesh. Here comes a lesson, ready?. Try using the search bar at the top of the page. Guess what? When you click it, it won't disappear! And I already told you to search under titles only. Hopefully all this information isn't already over your head.
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i see one by "evil" which isnt right, i see one in a guide by paul which is 2.1, is that as new as it gets? no flash on sense on nexus one?
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Complain much? You asked for sense roms and you got them. And if you actually did some more prodding you'd find that modaco actually has a 2.2...ahh, screw it, find it yourself
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thanks for the replies, i tried modaco it was pretty great, but i instantly missed flash and wifi hotspot setting. But the rom was really smooth, if a froyo one pops up im in. Is the evil one you are talking about going to be themed like his current one or will it be the way it is supposed to be?
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It's themed the same as his previous ROMs, but there are themes that you can flash over it to get the original sense ui theme. I believe the theme is even posted in evil's thread.
I've been running evil's Q&D NXSense v.1.04 rom since it was posted and so far it seems really complete (besides BT issues and no FM radio - which I never use anyway).
Okay, so thanks to some members for helping me find this homescreen replacement. However, I have searched for hours looking for some kind of mod for this thing, and I haven't found a one. Is it not possible to manually tweak settings like color, for instance? I can't believe this UI isn't as hyped as I find it to be.
So, can we get some devs on this to give us some tweaks and start a thread?
I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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I know what you mean. I just d.l.'d it and really like the design/idea of it all. Right now it is very limited to what you can tweak. If you go to thier website and check out the forum over there, alot of people are giving thier ideas of what they would like to see done to this app. Hopefully the dev's are listening....
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Yeah, but I think the requests are falling on deaf ears. Multiple people are saying over in their forums are saying they are simply doing compatibility updates now. I thought some Devs here at XDA could take matters into their own hands. But I just don't think there are enough people interested in it, you know? At the time of this post, 395 views of this thread and only one reply. Supply and demand, we need more people to speak up!
Very true. I'm gonna hang on to the free version for a while and see what happens. Time will tell.
I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I stick using this for a long time. a bit sad I couldn't "beautify" my home like others do. but in my opinion the standards color scheme are the best there is. and don't you think modding it (like adding a shortcut to one page of widget screen or a dash of power control which I really want as an upgrade) is the same as altering the whole program? is that against licencing problem? I'm quite a noob in this area...
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I have no idea. It seem's that it would be, but then again, people are porting SENSE over to non-HTC devices as well, so who knows? I don't know if the free version is open source or not.