I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
I own a Anycom BH-100 and it shows constant hissing as soon as connected to any device (PC USB dongle, HTC Magician / Hermes / Diamond).
Good thing is, when the music plays it's nearly gone ( = can't hear it anymore).
Hm, I suppose it bluetooth really is that bad. It hisses when I try to connect to my HP portable too.
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
So you wanna tell us, that you don't experience any difference between your headset being switched totally off and being on but no actual music playing?
3030 user here.I'd described the hissing present but not so much bothering. Not that I have much BT HF experience before, used entry level Jabra BT135 with N6120c. There I'd say was little bit of less hissing.
tha_rami said:
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
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Well lag/slight stuttering I would understand since it is wireless, but this is a constant background hiss independant of any lag.
Well f**k me sideways on a wheelbarrow!
The Diamond is not at fault at all. Its the Jabra that STINKS.
I tested a DS200 here at work at its got nothing of the hiss on the 3030. On the 3030, I clearly hear when its activated (*ELECTRONIC CLICK*hsssssssssss...) and likewise when it goes to sleep. On the Sony, I hear *nothing*. Its utterly silent. Well, aside from the music.
I'm getting this exchanged ASAP. And to think I was blaiming the Diamond
no problem with my diamond!. excellent quality both with my stereo headphones playing music or with car BT device. the connection is instantaneous and no background noises.
i must be lucky...lol. i have no lag with iGO8, my camera is taking good pictures and generally speaking i have nothing to complain about i am embarrassed...feeling left out
I thought I'd resurect my thread with an update... It appears that its NOT the Jabra at fault. I got it exchanged for a new one (the store didnt have a DS-200 at this time) and my conclusions stands at this:
- Listening closer to the Diamonds top speaker (like putting my ear to it, not good to do lol), it has the exact same type of noise. Its just that the volume of sound is so much greater its immiedietly drowned out. In other words, the Diamond behaves like this.
- Listening closer to the Diamonds package wire HF, it once again has the exact same type of noise, but here it is considerably lower and you really have to listen hard to it to hear: its not really noticable during playback even on lower volumes. So once again, this is how the Diamond sounds.
- The Jabra 3030 exaggerate the noise 10x, hence why its so annoying and with poor quality. Listening on low volume is drowned out by noise.
I got to see if I can try my buddies DS-200 again, listen closer this time... I'm starting to suspect that its a matter of how good the signal processing is on the Jabra, due to the Diamond sending out a noisy signal. If the DS-200 handle audio like the wired HF (same behaviour, much less noise), then its obviously "as good as it gets".
Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
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Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
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I suppose that's possible... But did you listen real close? I cant hear the noise from the speaker unless I stick my ear to it and the wired noise is very subtle, unnoticable during playback. Maybe I just got sensitive ears
I have tried the DS-200 again and got a background noise level that's much closer to the wired level, though a little notch higher. And its far, far lower than the Jabra. In particular, the electronic sound on turn on/off is not that noticable while the Jabra make my ear twitch.
murklor said:
I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
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I have a Jabra BT3030 and it works just fine in fact its perfect... Are you using a stock rom by anychance... if so what version...? you may want to use a cooked rom with the latest O/S.. as this does solve alot of BT problems...!
I am using the latest official (1.93 I believe it is). I dont quite see how a cooked rom will change the bluetooth performance of the handsfree (as a sidenote, I have tested removing those two bluetooth variables in the registry that according to another site would vastly improve quality: it did absolutely nothing)... But granted, I may just try it tonight if I ever do figure out which one to use, lol.
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Has anybody tried the Jabra BT620s on their tilt? if so, are they good and loud? Are they clear and no skipping? If not, what are the best bt headphones less than a 70 dolars.
Playing mp3 with BT620s and more player, great louder sound, no jumps...
all is ok.
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How old are they? Are they better than the moto s9's?
I actually just purchased this headset and it came in yesterday.
I like it so far. Good sound quality and OK range, though it's the first bluetooth device I've purchased.
However, some notes.
1)
The side of the earphones has a round circle shaped thing with LED's inside. This is an indicator led. The device has RED circles on the ears when it is charging. Yellow when battery is low, and blue for indicating when it is turned on among other things.
This is fine, but when the device is on the left side blinks every 5 seconds. In addition, when you get on a phone call both earpeices blink every 5 seconds. If you're playing music the same thing. If you're plugged in to the computer it will start to charge (red), but if you play music on the computer using the headset as USB headphones, the device will blink red.
I don't know about you, but I don't like looking like I'm on the Barney or Tele Tubby show. I prefer coworkers not know the device is even on. It'd be one thing if the large circles of light stayed ON, but blinking is a distraction to those around me. One godsend is with it in bluetooth mode (NOT connected to usb) you can hold the two buttons down and disable the blinking, but in USB mode you cannot.
2)
Being one of my first mass-consumer bluetooth devices to purchase I'm not sure if this reflects all devices. However, you cannot change the PIN number that allows the phone to authenticate the device. It's default is 0000 and it stays that way.
I have hacked bluetooth devices before using both my laptop and a high gain bluetooth antenna, and having done this I know that 0000 is the default for many headsets and other bluetooth devices. With the software I have on my laptop, I could have someone talk on my headset/phone and listen on my laptop to the convo, I could also barge in and say what I want in their conversation. I've done it to other people at starbucks with their bluetooth, with the high gain antenna I did it over 30 feet away.
This is a security risk, and I don't want my conversations monitored. Unfortunately, with this device you cannot secure yourself from such an attack. 0000 PIN is hardcoded to the device. Lame.
In summary, this handset is a good device other than the two major problems above. The sound quality is great, on par with any other standard USB headset -- but it has a Mic, it can pause/stop/play etc etc music on your Kaiser, or Windows media player when used in usb mode. Etc etc.
Thanks for that nice review. I'm really stuck right now, idk which to get out of the jabra one, soutwhing sa505, or the moto s9. I'm leaning towards teh moto s9's because they are small and supposedly have loud volume.
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Thanks for that nice review. I'm really stuck right now, idk which to get out of the jabra one, soutwhing sa505, or the moto s9. I'm leaning towards teh moto s9's because they are small and supposedly have loud volume.
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i would personally recommend staying away from the southwings. i personally was not fond of them at all and found the overall quality pretty bad. i own both the jabra's and the moto's and would have to say that both are great quality. but due to size and weight, the s9's win in all around comfort and usability. and the above post is right, the VERY obvious blinking rings on the ears that make you look like robotic princess leia can get annoying on the jabras (although you can turn them off). on the other hand though, they are fun to stare at sometimes.
great, thanks a lot. i think i'll get the moto s9's. i have a bit for around 12 bucks for the jabras, so if i win that, i'll get those to. found the s9's for around 60. hope they're good. are they the best out there?
@ jon_k :
LOL, please cut the leds !!! After turned it on, click on both left side & right side during 8 seconds.
I have this BT headset since more than 1 year, perfect product, maybe a little bit too big but jabra not planned to launch a new one
I personally bought the Jabras BT320s and am very satisfied. It does have removable headphones, leaving a standard 3.5mm jack so i could easily replace the stock ones(which are VERY good) with my Sony earbuds. Loud and clear, and even the built-in mic works wonders.
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@ jon_k :
LOL, please cut the leds !!! After turned it on, click on both left side & right side during 8 seconds.
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Permanent, or after shutoff/turnon does blinkies come back? I do shut them off using this method, but such a pain to do every time. ;-)
it will came back.
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great, thanks a lot. i think i'll get the moto s9's. i have a bit for around 12 bucks for the jabras, so if i win that, i'll get those to. found the s9's for around 60. hope they're good. are they the best out there?
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I had both the jabras and the s9's for 3 months. I sold the jabras right away after using both for awhile. the jabra's big, ugly and dont sound any better then the s9 does. I am more then happy with the s9's. Much smaller and the sound is almost the same.
Blinkies come back on every power cycle or recharge, as disclosed in the owner's manual. Makes you look like an idiot.
Great headphones, but a second problem is that the big, round buttons are way too big, so you will be hitting them by mistake a lot.
On my Tilt with the ATT ROM, sometimes they work great, sometimes they are cutting in and out, sometimes they won't connect with A2DP no matter what I do.
When watching video, the buffer lag can be a bit of a pain.
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I love mine. I look like a fool driving down the road with them on though. I use them for music and as handsfree. The handsfree works and sounds so much better than the normal BT's. Everyone noticed a huge difference on their end when I started using for handsfree. I love how the Music pauses and them goes right back when you hang up. Got them brand new for $20 at the AT&T store at the mall!!!!
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20 $ !!!!!!!!! what a good price !!!!
I've sold my Jabra 620 and replaced it with the Moto S9.
The S9s are much better in:
- size
- less geeky look
- smaller, easier to carry
- sound is good
- No super dorky light show
- buttons small but useful
The S9s are worse in:
- ear inserts fall off headset a lot, ended up using superglue
- only one earphone is active during phone calls, which is lame
- less comfy for long haul
- tend to interfere with collar shirts at base of neck
The 620 are better:
- comfort
- two active earphoness during phone calls means easy to hear caller
- sound great
The 620s are worse:
- Dorky lightshow
- you will look silly
- big buttons get hit by mistake all the time, will kill your battery in a bag
- big and don't stow well
Both of these worked much better with the Fuze than with the Tilt. The Fuze can handle multitasking like music and a screen rotation, the Tilt...not so much.
I'm sticking with the S9s for a while.
VERY COOL BT EAR PIECE!
The thing i enjoy about this the most is the ability to listen to music from my phone! I was kinda sketchy to the concept, but it is MONO sound, and sounds very good. The sound quality and volume is nice.
The ear bud fits snug in my ear and doesn't slip out or bounce around when i turn my head.
Since it allows music, you can also hear your ringtones, applicaiton/game noises, and other sounds your phone makes.
Another rad feature is the "MultiPoint" connection that allows you to connect up to 8 devices, and have 2 working at any one time.
It's a small ear piece, but is good quality, sounds great, and works well!
http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT8040.aspx?productfamilytab=Overview
i really like the looks of itt nice and small
i was jus wondering i have a HTC TOCUH from bell
and with this bluetooth will i be able to hear songs from my phone
in other words i can use this as a wireless headphones too?
cause couple of days ago i stopped by to look at some bluetooths
and the guy at the store told me tht HTC TOUCH doesnt support that
soo no metter what bluetooth u get it wont work.
and that was disappointing soo then i didnt buy one.
I just bought one of these... they're on sale right now at:
http://www.2daysbargain.com/
It ends today so you need to make up your mind pretty quick.
HTC Touch supports A2DP which is the main thing in supporting stereo music. The BT8040 also supports this (majority of mono headsets won't), so you shouldn't see any issue using the two together.
I hope at least... that what wryun mentions he's doing. It's also what I plan on doing. And from other reading it sounds like there won't be an issue.
I had one of these. In theory it could have been the greatest earbud ever. Unfortunately I had constant issues.
First, you cannot keep it in the traditional diagonal position for an earbud as the microphone rests on your cheek and is thus muffled.
Second, and this is what really pissed me off, the mic eventually stopped working. I would try the voice dial and it would never register my voice. Call after call would come in and I would answer without the caller being able to hear me. Seriously, the only way I could get it to finally work was to throw it at something...i.e., the ground, my dashboard, my windshield, the walls, etc...
I retired it and it has since been lost, possibly in the wash. I currently switch off between an invisio g5 (as small as the jabra with few issues) and a Samsung WEP470. Neither have A2DP and I must admit I miss that, but actual functionality is more important to me.
I know this has been brought up before but I wanted to see if anyone has found a workaround for the problem of the audio hiss produced by the NC circuitry.
The hiss is terrible on my desktop monitors and makes my NC unusable as an audio source. Is this just an inconsistency between NCs ? Is this something I could exchange it for using my squaretrade warranty?
Also would it be possible to integrate some sort of software solution via a filter of some kind
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You're not alone. I have the same problem with my NC, as well as my Dinc.
Mine has a bit of hiss, but only with certain pairs of headphones. In my case, it seems like it hates all of my cheaper earbud/in-ear sets but sounds just fine with my Sennheiser HD280s. Out of all the things people complain about, audio quality is the one that I have to agree on. The speaker on this thing is absolutely atrocious and the line-out is hit or miss as far as hiss/no hiss.
I finally hooked mine up to speakers today and I have to say that I did not notice any hiss.
I will say that the quality was not as good as my Iphone, but it was acceptable.
I haven't noticed any hiss on my nook and I've listened very closely. With Power Amp installed though, the sound quality gets noticeably better. Maybe try that out?
There's a hissing/static noise whenever audio starts. If I pause it'll stop after a few seconds. Anyone know the cause of this?
I'm also interested in this. When I tried playing in my car, firstly I thought it could be software or some equalization problem. But, even deactivating all, that hiss continued so maybe it could be the quality of audio cable (quite poor).
Trying at home with a quite decent pair of earphones: Sennheiser IE8, I still can hear the hiss. It is much less hearable (suppose less amplification of sound, I've been listening music at maximum level to detect it), but also here.
I think there are only 2 possibilities: bad software/ROM implementation or defective/bad hardware. The defective hardware is rare, I've read some opinions and all say more or less the same... I expected some more quality of sound, and more if it comes from Sony...
This phone has the absolute worst headphone output. It is SO low. Plugging the device into my car through an auxiliary port is horrible. I can't believe Samsung makes the headphone output so incredibly low on a flagship device. How can they get away with this? It's almost half of the iPhone 5S?
Care to explain a little more in detail? Why 'slow'? Do you mean the sound quality coming through the headphone jack of the headphone jack itself?
I am simply referring to the fact that when you plug in a pair of headphones the output volume is extremely low, compared to the HTC M9, or iPhone. I have tried several headphones and even plugged a pair into a demo unit at best buy. Turn up the volume all the way and it's simply not loud enough. Plug the same pair of headphones into an iPhone or HTC One M9 and the volume output is much louder. I do not understand how Samsung can get away with making the volume so loud. Defeats the purpose of having the phone play music.
Now I have used many many Galaxy smartphones, and while I have complained of this issue before, the S6 by far as the absolute lowest volume. Wouldn't be an issue if a volume mod could be flashed. But we need the boot loader unlocked first.
That's weird, maybe since it's a demo unit, my gs6 gets uncomfortably loud and it's almost on pair with my ipad.
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That's weird, maybe since it's a demo unit, my gs6 gets uncomfortably loud and it's almost on pair with my ipad.
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To each their own with sound, I guess. It was enough for me to return the phone.
So this can't just be bothering me.
Once you plug it in, make sure to turn the volume up on the phone. By default, the headphone jack is set very low so you dont blow the external speakers.
Also, try a headset and see if its still low for you. If it is, then its a bad port... if it isnt, then something is up with your aux port or car unit.
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Once you plug it in, make sure to turn the volume up on the phone. By default, the headphone jack is set very low so you dont blow the external speakers.
Also, try a headset and see if its still low for you. If it is, then its a bad port... if it isnt, then something is up with your aux port or car unit.
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I have tried many headphones. It gets loud, but nothing like the iPhone. Very difficult to hear your music in the gym. Samsung should not make the headphone volume this low. It's beyond frustrating for us audiophiles. FWIW, I don't think my phone is defective, I just think its me. Either way, I returned it.
MattMJB0188 said:
I have tried many headphones. It gets loud, but nothing like the iPhone. Very difficult to hear your music in the gym. Samsung should not make the headphone volume this low. It's beyond frustrating for us audiophiles. FWIW, I don't think my phone is defective, I just think its me. Either way, I returned it.
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I can understand where you're coming from. I was quite frustrated at first until I started playing with the equalizer and adapt sound. Now it's much better. I've plugged my headphones into the iPhone and while it does get louder it also gets more distoreted.
Have you gone into settings / sounds / sound quality and effects.
The tinkered around with the SoundAlive+ & Tube Amp? Also try using adapt sound to really tailor your sound.
Maybe one of those needs to be enabled to increase the output of the volume, not sure..
There's a post in general secton to increase the volume of the phone. It requires root tbough so be aware.
MattMJB0188 said:
I have tried many headphones. It gets loud, but nothing like the iPhone. Very difficult to hear your music in the gym. Samsung should not make the headphone volume this low. It's beyond frustrating for us audiophiles. FWIW, I don't think my phone is defective, I just think its me. Either way, I returned it.
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Dude seriously,, Thank you. I thought i have started having issues with my hearing. The output is so low that when in the subway, there is no way for me to hear my music. Only when i rotate the earpeace in an unusuall position, i am able to hear what i am actually listening to. The worst thing is that it seems to be recognized by u and me only... I don't know what to do and i for sure don't want an iphone..
Yep, ridiculously low volume output from the headphone jack. Compared to an LG G4 on the same speaker set to the same volume level, the S6 output is almost inaudible over background noise in the kitchen. Only way to get any usably loud audio from it is Bluetooth, which has its own set of problems with this phone.
Yes the sound from ear phones is too low. With my previous I9070 my ears used to bleed at 3 with Poweramp but now ven with the Volume turned upto 5 I can barely hear them..!
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Dude seriously,, Thank you. I thought i have started having issues with my hearing. The output is so low that when in the subway, there is no way for me to hear my music. Only when i rotate the earpeace in an unusuall position, i am able to hear what i am actually listening to. The worst thing is that it seems to be recognized by u and me only... I don't know what to do and i for sure don't want an iphone..
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Well, i had same problem but when i did the adapt sound tune, i did it at home without surrounding noises and heard all the beeps.. I redid it while on the train and heard aboit 30 % of the beeps and now i have a loud volume also disablwd the effects..
My headphones were also not working well. I thought to try some other brands. I searched alot but all were very expensive. Then my gym trainer suggested me to look for SoundMAGIC. I got affordable audiophile headphones online at exclussive offer. The sound is fantastic. I am very happy with it now.