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AT&T Tilt with BlackBerry Connect - can't use on a BlackBerry plan?

After being told by AT&T that it would work, I purchased a Tilt and asked to be signed up on the International Blackberry plan so that I could use the Blackberry Connect for data worldwide.
I haven't rec'd the Tilt yet, but I did receive my account info, so I called AT&T today to make the change. They informed me that because it is not a Blackberry device, they can't put me on the BlackBerry International plan.
Has anyone used a Blackberry Plan on the AT&T Tilt? I can probably convince them I have an unlocked Blackberry (or just buy a cheap one) and then try using it on the Tilt - does anyone know if that would work? They are telling me that their network would not allow it to work since the Tilt isn't a Blackberry and I would be charged for data use since the Blackberry plan only includes Blackberry data.
I was told last week that it wouldn't be a problem (and even recorded the call!), but now that I have made the purchase, they are saying it won't work.
I really would rather stick with the Tilt, but I need the BB International Plan (unlimited international data and e-mail), so I guess I'll have to return it for a BB unless anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!

i'm using my tilt with the blackberry plan (domestic only). since this is a tilt, they have it activated for both blackberry and media.net
i can't speak to the international plans however.
I would ask to speak to some other rep. The support for blackberry connect is well documented on their web site.

Alibaba0101 said:
i'm using my tilt with the blackberry plan (domestic only). since this is a tilt, they have it activated for both blackberry and media.net.
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Thanks! I did try a few reps today - of course I couldn't get the same one I had last week who told me it would work!
Did you need to get the media.net plan for data? I thought with the regular blackberry plan you would get both data and e-mail on the Tilt if you were using the blackberry connect software?
Did they give you an actual blackberry plan? They said I had to have a "blackberry connect" plan, and not a regular blackberry plan.

I bought my tilt online and selected the plan that way. I even had a rep call me asking why I had it on there. I told them I am not the account holder and they better not make any changes to the account. They didn't. Sorry if this didn't help you, just for any other people looking to do the same thing.

I wonder if you bought an old Blackberry phone and called them with the IMIE if they would activate that phone then just switch the SIM.

Call back again and tell them you want the PDA Connect for BlackBerry® Connect Unlimited . The code is KRB9

I'm no blackberry expert. My understanding is that blackberry normally uses the blackberry service and browser to access the internet. On the tilt the phone is activated for both media.net and blackberry service. The media.net is used to browse the internet normally. The blackberry connect establishes a permanent connection to the blackberry service. I do know that I told them specifically that i wanted to use it with a BES server at work (Blackberry Enterprise).
I've had the tilt working with Blackberry connect on both ATT and Tmobile.

kaydee said:
After being told by AT&T that it would work, I purchased a Tilt and asked to be signed up on the International Blackberry plan so that I could use the Blackberry Connect for data worldwide.
I haven't rec'd the Tilt yet, but I did receive my account info, so I called AT&T today to make the change. They informed me that because it is not a Blackberry device, they can't put me on the BlackBerry International plan.
Has anyone used a Blackberry Plan on the AT&T Tilt? I can probably convince them I have an unlocked Blackberry (or just buy a cheap one) and then try using it on the Tilt - does anyone know if that would work? They are telling me that their network would not allow it to work since the Tilt isn't a Blackberry and I would be charged for data use since the Blackberry plan only includes Blackberry data.
I was told last week that it wouldn't be a problem (and even recorded the call!), but now that I have made the purchase, they are saying it won't work.
I really would rather stick with the Tilt, but I need the BB International Plan (unlimited international data and e-mail), so I guess I'll have to return it for a BB unless anyone has experience with this.
Thanks!
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I had a similar problem. The "solution" they set up for me is the pda blackberry connect unlimited combined with a 20Mb pda smart international plan. That gives me 20Mb a month of international data in about twenty countries (the list has probably grown) without roaming data rates. This works OK for me because country I cared about (Japan) is on the list. Heck, the only reason I bought the Tilt was because it would work in Japan and BBConnect is available for it. The only problem is the 20Mb limit. That isn't a big problem for me because I'm not there for large stretches of time. YMMV.
If that works for you, great. If not, take it back and wait a couple of weeks for the Blackberry Bold. It will also have 2100MHz UMTS and you can get the BB International plan.

I managed to get them to set it up by getting a BlackBerry Bold and giving them the IMEI. I never actually opened the Bold box - just used the IMEI to convince them to give me the plan.
I put the SIM in the tilt, installed the Blackberry Connect and all seems to be well.
The BlackBerry International plan is the only one with unlimited data, and since I spend most of my time outside of the USA, the other "Connect" plans just won't work for me.
I have a question about the media.net - I assume I won't be charged for data on it since I have the BB International plan that includes unlimited data? Has anyone else used this?
Alibaba0101 said:
I'm no blackberry expert. My understanding is that blackberry normally uses the blackberry service and browser to access the internet. On the tilt the phone is activated for both media.net and blackberry service. The media.net is used to browse the internet normally. The blackberry connect establishes a permanent connection to the blackberry service. I do know that I told them specifically that i wanted to use it with a BES server at work (Blackberry Enterprise).
I've had the tilt working with Blackberry connect on both ATT and Tmobile.
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G1 with Blackberry data plan? (currently working)

Hopefully someone may know the answer to my question. My wife has a POS Blackberry Flip 8220. It's on its last legs so I got her a G1 on eBay. Everything I read said I would have to switch to an Android data plan but when I put her SIM in the G1 everything was working with a 3G signal.
Is that something that will only work until they catch on? Or should it continue to work?

MrBigFeathers said:
Hopefully someone may know the answer to my question. My wife has a POS Blackberry Flip 8220. It's on its last legs so I got her a G1 on eBay. Everything I read said I would have to switch to an Android data plan but when I put her SIM in the G1 everything was working with a 3G signal.
Is that something that will only work until they catch on? Or should it continue to work?
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Do tell... WHAT is an "android" data plan?
Android phones do NOT require any special data provisions. ANY GENERIC DATA PLAN is fine.

Well T-Mobile used to have a Blackberry unlimited data plan. with unlimited messages for $34.99 and an Android unlimited data plan with unlimited messages for $34.99. Those have been replaced with the Even More plans. But my wife still has the grandfathered Blackberry plan. Everyone I've asked said the data wouldn't work because of the APNs and even if it did T-Mobile would be able to tell I was using a G1 on a Blackberry data plan and they would shut it down.
I was just wondering if anyone had used a blackberry data plan successfully in the past or are still using one. If I have to change anything the plan will go up $10 ($30 for data and $15 for unlimited text)

I took my wife from a BB to a Nexus One. No calls to T Mobile and our bill started showing two Android Data Plans. Same thing.... no need to call unless her data suddenly acts funky.

That's good news. Of course when she tries to upgrade to the mytouch slide soon then we may have to deal with that.
Thanks

MrBigFeathers said:
Well T-Mobile used to have a Blackberry unlimited data plan. with unlimited messages for $34.99 and an Android unlimited data plan with unlimited messages for $34.99. Those have been replaced with the Even More plans. But my wife still has the grandfathered Blackberry plan. Everyone I've asked said the data wouldn't work because of the APNs and even if it did T-Mobile would be able to tell I was using a G1 on a Blackberry data plan and they would shut it down.
I was just wondering if anyone had used a blackberry data plan successfully in the past or are still using one. If I have to change anything the plan will go up $10 ($30 for data and $15 for unlimited text)
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Three things to say about this;
1) RIM phones require *extra* provisions, but still require the STANDARD provisions, therefore a RIM-compatible data plan will work with any phone, but a regular data plan won't work with a RIM phone. This is a matter of RIM phones being horribly crippled and VERY VERY poorly designed.
2) Anything between you and YOUR CARRIER has nothing to do with this forum. I suggest you consult your carrier for instructions on this.
3) You never even mentioned what carrier you were using, therefore NOBODY could possibly make any reasonable guess about what their responses will be.

few things to note...
1, if your using Tmobile, i know enough to answer your questions,
- blackberries have their own server farms for data (email especially, but all data for a blackberry goes through a "blackberry" channel.
- androids, also have their own seperate channels or farms that handle all of their data,
however, if you have any data plan, and simply pop your sim into any smartphone, it should work for a while, until your connection gets a time failure, or gets red flagged for requesting (or getting) too much bandwidth.
this is known as blackballing, and you can even trick the system sometimes, by putting your sim back in your old phone, calling tmo, and telling them to open mtas, (or something like that) and addressing that connection (tier 3 can do it in about 5 minutes if they know wtf is up).
but for this channelized crap to work, they are separating the non-tmobile brand phones, into a more simplified system for them...
this way, i guess, when blackberries have a massive outage (like when the Storm was released, and every storm on the planet had to get updated, and that killed all the servers, all the blackberries had no-connection at all, for about 3 days...)
my point, is if one system fails, at least other clients (with other phones) are not effected.
sofar, my g1 has been very reliable and fast with out any data plan at all.
screw their overpriced data, and run wifi.
older, sneaky people were using tzones to get full data plan for 10bucks, and just calling in every 2 weeks to get their MTAS updated, or unlocked...
thats been resolved by now, but hopefully you get the picture. and i havent confused anyone,

MrBigFeathers said:
Hopefully someone may know the answer to my question. My wife has a POS Blackberry Flip 8220. It's on its last legs so I got her a G1 on eBay. Everything I read said I would have to switch to an Android data plan but when I put her SIM in the G1 everything was working with a 3G signal.
Is that something that will only work until they catch on? Or should it continue to work?
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it should fail at some point, and you don't want RIM or blackberry to handle android stuff anyways.
get the android plan, but before you do, go to www.google.com and search for " speedtest " and compare your actual speeds before and after the switch.
would be interesting if there was a huge diference.

AT&T HTC Tilt 2 / Data Services

Hello all,
a while back i had a tilt and found a program to turn off internet data services on the phone so i could still use it as a phone, sms, mms device, and not get charged for internet usage on the phone.
i'm now looking at the tilt2 from at&t and wondering if the same is available. i don't want to pay for internet service on the phone through att. i just want to use the phone for phone, sms, and mms. if i want to use the internet, i'll just turn on the wifi on the phone.
is the program still out there to turn off the att internet data services?
thanks

Call AT&T and turn data service off
It is easier than that. Let me tell you what I did. When my AT&T account, like most accounts, was created it was set up with the data server turned on in a pay -as-you-use-it mode. I never got charge for the data service because I never used it. I called AT&T and had them explicitly turn off all data services. So if I try to use the data service I now get a no network error. (I use WIFI for data service.) Now I can use any smartphone I want that uses AT&T frequencies without incurring any data charges. I did this for all our lines. I have the Tilt 2 and love it. No extra data charges on my bill. My phone picture on AT&T's web page automatically changed to the Tilt 2, so AT&T obviously knows I have one. My son got an iPhone. The same for him for his AT&T webpage phone picture.

VERY SLOW Data Speeds Since Upgrade!?

I have T-Mobile and have had the T-Zones for 10 years and got grandfathered in at the $4.99 rate. I've gone through several phones over the years, including an iPhone and now the Nexus One, and they all worked GREAT with T-Zones.
When I first got the N1, I was getting download speeds (according to SpeedTest.net app) of anywhere from 2500kbs to 5800kbs with an average in the 3k. Uploads were always 800-1900kbs. The app also showed the data network as either "UTMS" or "HSPDA".
Last week, I began getting a message telling me that my data package needed to be upgraded and was not compatible with my phone. This happened to several of my friends who also had an N1 and the T-Zones data. I left it alone for a couple of days thinking it would come back up and it never did despite it working fine on my iPhone.
Since I couldn't get it to work, I "upgraded" to an offer Tmo had that included unlimited calling, unlimited text, AND unlimited data all for $79.99.....only $5 more than I was paying. Thinking it would be the better deal and I'd get better data since it would be their TRUE data network, I changed to that plan and dropped the T-Zones.
Ever since then, I've NEVER had my data download speed go over 300kbs and my upload stays under 100kbs. NO settings whatsoever have been changed on my actual phone. On top of that, the app no longer shows the phone running off a data network but instead shows "Cell". What am I missing here?
I've tried several APNs, including epc.tmobile, voicestream2, voicestream3, and they are ALL the same!?
I've called Tmo and they can't seem to help me due to having and "unsupported phone". What makes it even worse is my friend with Tzones told me that his finally came back up about 5 days later and he's STILL getting 4-5mbs speeds.
Anyone have any suggestions??

[Q] Simple Mobile APN Problem

I just got a hd7 today i was pumped and my friend told me that he uses simple mobile. Its t-mobiles service unlimited everything for $60 a month. So I popped the sim card in and calling and texting work no unlock needed! I ran into a major problem it says I cannot connect to 3G. Simple Mobile basically said I'm on my own because windows phone 7 doesn't let me edit my settings like WM 6.5 did so how do i change my APN and all of that mumbo jumbo so i can get my $600 phone working!

solved the problem just needed to restart the phone wow i feel stupid but we all have our moments

you have internet and mms working?
i got tired searching something like an apn for windos 7 phone