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EBO (Easy Bake Oven) On Hold - Update 11/26/07

11/26/07 update:
I've placed the project on hold for a while. I've been too busy to work on it and so instead, I'm working on an optimized ROM for my Wing. I might end up just using that ROM as the base ROM. It's based on the Touch-IT.
Update: Still working on release v0.4. So far, so good. No bugs found, yet.
Success! Tested AND Working flashed on my Wing!!!
Here it is! Version 0.3
All the passwords are: "ding"
Step one:
Download the Kitchen files:
Save them somewhere, say a folder called "Ivan's Kitchen."
Step two:
Download the OEM and SYS folders:
Dump them into the Working_Folder within the EasyBakeOven folder that you extracted on the first step.
Step three:
Download the ROM folder and follow the same instructions as step two.
Step four:
Download the Packages into the OEM folder.
Step five:
Run the RunMe file. Choose if you want the BioTouch. Choose if you want Office. Check what programs you want. Click on the little green "play" button. When it says "Done." at the bottom, close that window and follow the prompts.
This is a BuildOS kitchen. Download the packages and just double click on the batch file I made you.
Make sure you have enough harddrive space... I tried it on my laptop and I kept getting REALLY small os.nb files. lol
Now I just need someone to make me some good atwork... or I can make one myself.
BUGS Fixed:
V0.3
Camera Packages - Removed the camera packages and restored the original camera.
CommManager Packages - Updated their registry to reflect the Herald's wifi.
Removed Touchflo ghost icon. It was a mistake from my end. It's an icon pointing to nothing.
V0.2
Too many to fix... Just ignore the fact that V0.1 ever happened...
If upgrading from the previous version:
Download these files and the file attached and overwrite the current set. Delete the two camera folders under the OEM folder.
If not, download the whole thing again.
If you downloaded the original broken Alpha release: Trash it. Download the newest one. That one had more holes that swiss cheese.
Bugs found and how to fix them.
I missed an extra file when I updated the camera fix. I'll fix it on the next release. For now just delete the file "Camera.lnk" from the OEM\OEMAPPS folder.
11/19/07 - Nevermind, I completely broke the camera again. I'll have it fixed soon. I'll have to look through the original ROM and find the missing files.
V0.4 Coming Soon!
Changes so far:
Fix extra camera.lnk
Set packages needed for a basic working ROM to be selected by default.
More packages!!
Thank you's goes to:
God for giving me the patience to work on this.
ITJE for his base ROM
LordPhong for his Touch-IT fixes
mattk_r for inspiring me with his kitchen and for most of the packages
Warning:
Any damages caused by your ROM to your phone is solely your resposibility. The chances of you really bricking your phone are slim to none. As long as it's a WING. I haven't tested this on anything else.
Also, if you have a 64bit OS: Don't even try to use the flashing tool. It will not work.

Packages and Screenshots
This kitchen's base ROM builds a 12mb pagepool.
You'll have to use the pagepool changer to get it to your liking.
I'll be listing all packages in a few hours.
Here are a few screenshots.

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good ish, looking forward to it. One question, for the programs and tweaks, are you just going to include the most popular, or can requests/suggestions be made?

oh yes. very anticipated. This has the ability to JUST add biotouch, that is, without the cube? If so, mad props to you.
Also, two questions
1. Will I be able to change the base rom?
2. Can I get it to spit out the .nbh file from the RUU? Just for us CID-unlocked people?

fzzyrn said:
oh yes. very anticipated. This has the ability to JUST add biotouch, that is, without the cube? If so, mad props to you.
Also, two questions
1. Will I be able to change the base rom?
2. Can I get it to spit out the .nbh file from the RUU? Just for us CID-unlocked people?
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I'm still working on the possibility of seperating.... we'll see...
As far as your questions go:
1. Yes.... BUT, you will have to STRIP the ROM down in order to avoid errors from the kitchen. (Not as hard as it sounds, mostly just searching for the duplicate files that the kitchen throws an error out for. Just time consuming.)
The base ROM is just that. Basic as can possibly be. If you want a newer version of the OS and are up to stripping down that ROM for my kitchen, I'll add it here without a problem. This is more of a collection of works from all parts of this community, so if anyone wants to add packages to the lot, porting over newer versions of wm6 or whatever it may be (like art work,) they're more than welcomed to.

Does it go "ding" when it's done?

falconeyez said:
Does it go "ding" when it's done?
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lol. I'll add that to my todo list. (j/k... maybe)

Great work! Can't wait till its online.
The perfect solution for "cooking" your own Rom without the diffult (but most of all time consuming) proces of getting into Hypercore kitchen. Finally within the reach of my limited sparetime.
You could try to contact Itje about the differences between Wing and Herald?
Keep us posted on the proceedings!

Good Work!
Just one question.
Does it allow us to change the language?

jappo01 said:
You could try to contact Itje about the differences between Wing and Herald?
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I've being trying to PM every herald cook that I know of for a few weeks now, to no avail. No one has responded.

This sounds like a very, very good thing. I've been wanting something like this since I started playing with different ROMs.

very nice. morphgear?
nice work cant wait. have a question i have morphgear(nes emulator) and i actually paid for it. i was wondering since its an execution file can that be converted into a oem package for my own use with this kitchen?

xingeng said:
Does it allow us to change the language?
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I hadn't thought about that... I'll look up that thread that has the info about how to change the language.
10 minutes later... Why can't I find it? I know it's here somewhere. I've seen it countless NEEDLESS times...
ok... this is silly. Find it for me and I'll take a look. lol

teamrinse said:
nice work cant wait. have a question i have morphgear(nes emulator) and i actually paid for it. i was wondering since its an execution file can that be converted into a oem package for my own use with this kitchen?
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If you have the cab, then it's doable. Even if you don't, technically it still is...

Ok, Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311078&highlight=dirty
This thread tells how to translate english into any other language.
ivanmmj said:
I hadn't thought about that... I'll look up that thread that has the info about how to change the language.
10 minutes later... Why can't I find it? I know it's here somewhere. I've seen it countless NEEDLESS times...
ok... this is silly. Find it for me and I'll take a look. lol
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ivanmmj said:
The Kitchen is ready. It's Wing only for now because I haven't had the time to research on the differences between it and the normal Herald. .
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hi man,I found that there are no different between all kinds of herald,only one is c858 without WIFI.
others all the same except keyboard layout.
ok and flash your nbh with jspl will be comfortable.
BUT should notice that IPL SPL not less than 4.00
or flash with ruu if you are hardspl.
cheers

canonyang_China said:
hi man,I found that there are no different between all kinds of herald,only one is c858 without WIFI.
others all the same except keyboard layout.
ok and flash your nbh with jspl will be comfortable.
BUT should notice that IPL SPL not less than 4.00
or flash with ruu if you are hardspl.
cheers
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Cool. Now I just need the registry values for the regular herald's keyboard layout.

Downloading to test...

Im getting an error message when it starts to build. Is anyone else trying this besides me?
the file 'temp/packages2f1ae01a-04e8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66.rgu' already exists

Question before flashing my device...

Hello all, first off this is the absolute BEST PDA forum around. And Ive found just about all information I need. I JUST NOW successfully HardSPLed my device! W00T! Ive looked around and cant answer my last question though, I want to use a rom that is a WM6.1 bc I want threaded text, ive currently got wm6 on my T-Mo Wing (Herald) or whatever you guys like to call it lol. Do I need to do anything before flashing the WM6.1 Rom? Any suggestions on what Rom to use? I really like the idea of touch flo! Any help is appreciated!

Okay, Sir.
First off all you should know that I'm kinda new to the XDA scene as well but I've manage to flash my device right at the first attempt. What you have to do is following:
1. HardSPL your device
2. Check bootloader if process was successful
3. Get the RUU and put your *.nbh into the RUU folder (Image)
4. Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow the steps
That's it. Be sure to be ActiveSynced all the time!
Oh and for the ROM request: I can strongly suggest OpenTouch V7.7 Manilla2D - a pretty nice ROM imho.
If there are any questions left don't hesitate to ask
Cheers

i'll recommend the easier flash method, as long as you have a microSD card. you can download any rom image your wish to flash, and place it in the root directory of the sd card as HERAIMG.nbh (i beilieve. look it up, i haven't flashed in a while). just hold the camera button down as you turn on the device, and it'll load into bootloader mode. from there, just follow the instructions.
while opentouch and many other roms that already have many programs are nice, i always recommend the exact opposite. the best and fastest rom i have ever used is just2clean. it has tons of free memory left, and just the basics pre-installed. makes a great base to install just what you want, and easily be able to remove what you don't.

Awesome. Thank you both for the info! I think im gonna go with OpenTouch V7.7 Manilla2D. Ive seen youtube vids on it and it looks appealing.... Thanks again... Going to update as soon as i get off work =P. Will post if i have any problems. But maybe ill ask a last question, will OpenTouch V7.7 Manilla2D leave me much space left over after the flash?

Around 30MB afaik. If you need more space for apps etc. try the JustMe ROM with up to 70MB of free storage.
Cheers

Ok so i couldnt actually find the download link to 7.7, like i click on the 7.7 link in his sig, but couldnt actually fond the download. but i read clear thru the forum and found V7.3..... Successful install...Now I think im gonna try his windows vista beta. Thanks for the help!

Well, have fun at reflashing Here are the links to build V7.7
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Lol im d/l it now. Got sent home from work bc of power failur... yay. But where did u find the link? i looked ALL over lastnight. The Touch IT Vista Beta worked well but i was really wanting this Open Touch 7.7 so im flashing again! Once again thanks... See ya on the other threads!

It's there at the very bottom.
Mirrors:
This mirror pretty much has all roms from version 7.0 - 7.7 which is the most current.
Provided by coburn_c
Version 7.7 has been added and is in a folder called Version 7.7.
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Cheers

i think i was blind lol. thanks again

You're welcome Let us know if it worked.
Cheers

Greetings from Brazil.
Hard-SPLed an HTC P4352 and flashed with Open Touch 7.7
Thanks.

Yea Zeheres, Everythings workin great..... I went with OTP 7.7 Lite.... LOVE IT! Thanks for your help. Lol now im usin your knowledge to help others =P

That's how it works Good it worked for you. Have fun with it
Cheers

please help me Devs

Hey,
I will cook Roms.
But I cant find a good industruction, so i using the xda roms years and i really like this forum.
I will make my own Roms, please help me (send me a kitchen or a instruction... how YOU learn cooking Roms)
((in english or German))
why I will cook Roms?
-I have a lot of paid programms and will share it with you
-I will be a part of this forum you help me, I help you
-I will make my HD faster and better and bring my ideas in a Rom
sorry for my bad english
hope for answer

If I've understood you right, you need this - a quides for cooking a rom. You have everything you need there, including all tools needed.
Good luck with the cooking.

thanks i am try reading, downloading, and working

thanka 2 more questions
ladieslova said:
If I've understood you right, you need this - a quides for cooking a rom. You have everything you need there, including all tools needed.
Good luck with the cooking.
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hey thanks, i am trying the kitchen now. But i have 2 Questions:
1. How can i make my own boot?
2. With wich programm i can make 6.1 Themes?

i think this can help you make themes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493011

thanks man
ASK768 said:
i think this can help you make themes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493011
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looks great downloading...
thanks

Hey, i have a problem i have trying to cook Roms BUT i cant. Because when i cook the rom with the programm is all good, but when i flash this its all good too, but when i click the reset button after flashing, and the phone starts its still waiting on the screen ´´smart mobility´´ and then nothing happens no Boot. Why???
sry for my bad english

please help me i have a lot off spb applications i will make a spb rom and other clean roms

MS My Phone causing problems
This might be slightly off topic, but I didn't want to create a new thread for it and it is pertaining to rom development. I've had serious problems recently with multiple roms. I've installed about 4 roms in 3 days and with many i've lost my entire text message database from a soft reset. I've also reset the phone to find my email accoutns have been erased and my text messages were not sending.
I'm narrowed this down to using the MS My Phone service to restore information. This time round I used an old backup using PIM manager from my storage card and things seem to be back to normal (I hope).
Just curious, has anyone experience problems using MS My Phone? I like using it, but it now seems like a virus that if I use it, can corrupt my phone and cause me to have to reflash.
Opinions appreciated,
BANE

BANE said:
This might be slightly off topic, but I didn't want to create a new thread for it and it is pertaining to rom development. I've had serious problems recently with multiple roms. I've installed about 4 roms in 3 days and with many i've lost my entire text message database from a soft reset. I've also reset the phone to find my email accoutns have been erased and my text messages were not sending.
I'm narrowed this down to using the MS My Phone service to restore information. This time round I used an old backup using PIM manager from my storage card and things seem to be back to normal (I hope).
Just curious, has anyone experience problems using MS My Phone? I like using it, but it now seems like a virus that if I use it, can corrupt my phone and cause me to have to reflash.
Opinions appreciated,
BANE
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are you flashing sense 2.5 roms? with htc messaging app? it suffers major problems when restoring alot of sms.
also, i have had no problems restoring stuff with Myphone BUT i never restore sms (honestly i dont really get the point of archiving sms, i clean them all everytime i flash). maybe it can help
WM_Manu said:
please help me i have a lot off spb applications i will make a spb rom and other clean roms
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mmh oookay but i think you will run into trouble cooking paid software into a rom. in the end you can call it warez and warez here is prohibited

Thanks for the reply.
I have been yes. Currently running Xannys 2.5 without Htc messaging as I can't stand the sluggish speed of HTC messaging.
I know my last big problem occurred without the sms restore (just contacts and tasks) and to be honest, I'm a little scared to try and restore anything from My Phone incase it effects my phone adversely again. I've been constantly fixing and using a phone which was unreliable because of this for about a week now, so I kind of want to get back to some stability before I experiment again.
I'll keep everyone posted on my findings.
BANE

okay, but i try it one time without paid software,
can anyone post a link with the Kitchen, in that you cook. please
wm_manu

please 6.1 or 6.5

WM_Manu said:
please help me i have a lot off spb applications i will make a spb rom and other clean roms
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I wouldn't recommend that you cook in a paid software, it is prohibited.

ok, thank but even if i want it, i CANT ''when i click the reset button after flashing, and the phone starts its still waiting on the screen ´´smart mobility´´ and then nothing happens no Boot. Why???''

hope for answer

Could be anything really... a missing package, wrong settings in the registry. Pretty much impossible to say. Which kitchen are you using? Can you provide a build log (the bunch of messages the kitchen spurts out when building the ROM)?

thanks
Semicuda said:
Could be anything really... a missing package, wrong settings in the registry. Pretty much impossible to say. Which kitchen are you using? Can you provide a build log (the bunch of messages the kitchen spurts out when building the ROM)?
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thanks for the answer,
I'm using the Ervius Kitchen This is the Kitchen Link
I dont know how i provide a build log, I'm new at this all.
But no Packages is missing or wrong setting, if you using a better Kitchen please share it with us.
wm_manu

Just copy all the messages it throws out during ROM creation, put it in a txt file and attach it to a post. Without that, it's really hard to give you any tips...

OK
Semicuda said:
Just copy all the messages it throws out during ROM creation, put it in a txt file and attach it to a post. Without that, it's really hard to give you any tips...
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ok thanks, I do it tommorow i must go sleep I have tommorow school

rom upgrade

i am a new user and i want to upgrade my rom to wm6.5. can someone please help me with the process....i dont know anything about SPL or other terms. please try to guide me through the process, what to do first etc etc
thanks in advance

Very simple as we speak M8....
Charge ur mobile battery fully.
Sync it with Active sync with your PC and update ur Dotnet till up to date.
Run Opal HArd SPL and a set of files will come inside the folder u have hard spl, a dialogue box will appear, dont click next and now paste the Rom u have downloaded into the folder and overwrite it..
Now Read the following steps in tat dialogue box and its done....

thanks a lot,

can u suggest a good rom for my phone? id like one with lots of features and no bugs......i searched for a few but it seems all of them have a few bugs. a wm 6.5 would be great. thanks again

shreesh30 said:
can u suggest a good rom for my phone? id like one with lots of features and no bugs......i searched for a few but it seems all of them have a few bugs. a wm 6.5 would be great. thanks again
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If you don't already have this, than you know how good this is, And well it's a WM6.5 ROM that's completely "NAKED" try it out, and it's fast. (The Link is in my Signature.)

Installing this rom i can use my viva with another operator? sim unlock? thanks in advance...

jmmfox said:
Installing this rom i can use my viva with another operator? sim unlock? thanks in advance...
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SIM-Unlocking is different from ROM Up-dating.

Diagrax said:
SIM-Unlocking is different from ROM Up-dating.
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How i can sim unlock my device (Touch Viva)??? i'm tired of searching a free way to do it...

jmmfox said:
How i can sim unlock my device (Touch Viva)??? i'm tired of searching a free way to do it...
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You could try calling your service Provider to give you the Sim Unlock Code or you could pay someone to get you the code.

Can someone make a video on how to Hard SPL it??Please..I cant understand anything ...Sorry I still new in HTC Touch Viva...
Thank you.

silverR4y said:
Can someone make a video on how to Hard SPL it??Please..I cant understand anything ...Sorry I still new in HTC Touch Viva...
Thank you.
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I thought it was pretty easy to understand. Just what don't you understand?

Diagrax said:
I thought it was pretty easy to understand. Just what don't you understand?
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Umm i mean what is Dotnet..How to update it..

bondarun said:
Very simple as we speak M8....
Charge ur mobile battery fully.
Sync it with Active sync with your PC and update ur Dotnet till up to date.
Run Opal HArd SPL and a set of files will come inside the folder u have hard spl, a dialogue box will appear, dont click next and now paste the Rom u have downloaded into the folder and overwrite it..
Now Read the following steps in tat dialogue box and its done....
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thanks for easy steps to update, do i need to go to bootloader in my touch viva?

all about HardSPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446446

TheRem said:
all about HardSPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446446
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again, thanks for the link.

I posted this response to this same question over in the ROM development forum.
I too am a relatively new user to this board and a complete newbie to flashing the ROM of my Touch Viva. I wanted a newer more finger friendly ROM for my touchscreen Viva and getting the exact answer to how to flash the phone wasn't easy.
I read through different posts and basically pieced together the information that I use from many different posts. I too was concerned about "bricking" my phone and wanted to get it right.
I've flashed my phone with roughly a dozen different ROMs and have finally settled on one that I like and have also flashed a second Viva with an upgraded ROM also. So if you take your time and have a little patience you can do it.
I hope this helps.

Jagan2's guide
I found a great new post by Jagan2 on how to install/flash a custom ROM. You can find it here.
By the way, he is also the chef of a very good custom ROM called Evolution 2 which is what I'm currently using. I'm patiently waiting for his upcoming 2.5 version.

yea man im using evolution too its amazing rom for WM 6.5 ... give it a try and everything and all the steps u will find the in the fourm about hard spl and installing the rom too lemme know if u need help

Any beutiful chinese ROM for TP2??

Have been seeing some very nice ROM created by great chefs.... wonder if there is any created for TP2...

Can you show us examples?

FeareX said:
Can you show us examples?
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This kind of rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773 that can Read, Write and display chinese characters...

Have you tried flashing one of those roms, then installing the appropriate fonts and IMEs? I have Chinese working perfectly on my Tilt 2 on the ROM you linked to.

Thanks
jedah said:
Have you tried flashing one of those roms, then installing the appropriate fonts and IMEs? I have Chinese working perfectly on my Tilt 2 on the ROM you linked to.
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Can you please show me which ROM you have installed and whick fonts and IMEs you have installed that have worked perfectly on your Tilt2?

find Traditional Chinese ROM?tp2
Excuse me!!!
Where can i find Traditional Chinese ROM for Touch pro2 (Taiwan)
Rom 28244 sense2.5+cookie2.0
Thank you Sir
PS.Sorry my English is bad

bhloo said:
Can you please show me which ROM you have installed and whick fonts and IMEs you have installed that have worked perfectly on your Tilt2?
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Sure, man.
ROM: Energy 28244 2/12 Dink
Font: sunglobe
IME:
ngn4's EZInput (basically the HTC IME)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622054
The above setup is what I use now. If you have a Tilt2, you will need to use Tarkim's keyboard controller to remap the hard keyboard back to its stock setting after installing EZInput. Otherwise, you should be set.
I have also tried qq and sogou (formerly plumsip). Both work okay, but for qq, I couldn't figure out how to turn off Chinese; and I don't use sogou because it did not do traditional (or I couldn't figure out how).
Do a google search for the cabs above. You should be able to find them. If you can't find them, you can pm me.

Thank you once again
jedah said:
Sure, man.
If you have a Tilt2, you will need to use Tarkim's keyboard controller to remap the hard keyboard back to its stock setting after installing EZInput. Otherwise, you should be set.
What does this mean? And how do I go about using Tarkim's keyboard controller to remap the hard keyboard back to its stock setting? Any link or cab to help me do that?
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question:
can you just flash a ROM from say HTC Honk Kong? i have the offical ROM from the HTC HK site; will it work on a TMOUS TP2?

bhloo said:
jedah said:
Sure, man.
What does this mean? And how do I go about using Tarkim's keyboard controller to remap the hard keyboard back to its stock setting? Any link or cab to help me do that?
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Go to this link, go to post #26, and follow the instructions. I am not sure if you need both the Tilt2HWkeyboard cab and this keyboardconfig file, but I install both of them anyway (no harm in using both).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6831859
opatim said:
can you just flash a ROM from say HTC Honk Kong? i have the offical ROM from the HTC HK site; will it work on a TMOUS TP2?
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I've installed an official ROM from SE Asia before, and it seemed to work just fine. Same is probably true for an HK version (where did you find one.. I couldn't find one). However, I don't know what TMO's keyboard looks like since I have a Tilt 2. If it is different than the unlocked version, then you will need to find a way to map it back to stock (I'm sure there's a cab floating out there for that).
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jedah said:
bhloo said:
Go to this link, go to post #26, and follow the instructions. I am not sure if you need both the Tilt2HWkeyboard cab and this keyboardconfig file, but I install both of them anyway (no harm in using both).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6831859
Thanks, will give the above a try and see how it works...
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THank you
Thank you everybody for your great info... I tried the above recomendations and works great on my TP2. One issue is the memory on my device seems to run from initial 53mb down to around 20mb after awhile, anyway to prevent that from happening???

That would be an issue with the rom you chose to flash, I would suggest using one that isnt full of bloatware and adding only what you need....The cab mentioned in the link above is for those who dont have a rom compatable or made for the Tilt 2....There are a few that were made specifically for the Tilt2 and no outside cabs for hardware are needed....Chinese language would be your only obstacle to overcome....
Regards,
WC

bhloo said:
Thank you everybody for your great info... I tried the above recomendations and works great on my TP2. One issue is the memory on my device seems to run from initial 53mb down to around 20mb after awhile, anyway to prevent that from happening???
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You're welcome, dude. I can only take credit for pointing you the right direction. The real hero is the guy who made the cabs available for everyone.
As for RAM, the Chinese input does use up a little extra ram at initial boot, but definitely not 23 MB. At 53MB startup, it sounds like you're using one of Energy's Cookie Roms w/ the stalk start menu. Memory usage has been discussed to death in that thread. Do a search for memory or RAM, and you'll probably find several ways to save RAM. So far, the one that yields the highest results seems to be to replace the start menu. Also, consider using cleanRAM (you can probably find here in xda or in OpnMarket)

jedah said:
You're welcome, dude. I can only take credit for pointing you the right direction. The real hero is the guy who made the cabs available for everyone.
As for RAM, the Chinese input does use up a little extra ram at initial boot, but definitely not 23 MB. At 53MB startup, it sounds like you're using one of Energy's Cookie Roms w/ the stalk start menu. Memory usage has been discussed to death in that thread. Do a search for memory or RAM, and you'll probably find several ways to save RAM. So far, the one that yields the highest results seems to be to replace the start menu. Also, consider using cleanRAM (you can probably find here in xda or in OpnMarket)
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Thank you once again, I tried installing HTC Clean RAM but this ROM won't allow me to do that, any great RAM Cleaner software out there??

bhloo said:
Thank you once again, I tried installing HTC Clean RAM but this ROM won't allow me to do that, any great RAM Cleaner software out there??
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That's strange. What ROM are you using? I didn't have any trouble installing it on an Energy ROM (or any other ROM). Is this the cleanRAM you were trying to install?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
Some other ram cleaners include Ram Sweeper and Memmaid. I didn't use them much, so I can really only vouch for cleanRAM.

jedah said:
That's strange. What ROM are you using? I didn't have any trouble installing it on an Energy ROM (or any other ROM). Is this the cleanRAM you were trying to install?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
Some other ram cleaners include Ram Sweeper and Memmaid. I didn't use them much, so I can really only vouch for cleanRAM.
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Yes this is the cleanRAM I installed but of different version, this one seems to work just fine, thank you once again....