I just flashed my T-Mobile MDA Compact IV with the original Dutch HTC ROM. Everything is working perfectly except for one thing: I no longer have horizontal scrolling in TouchFlo. I mean, if I want to go from the clock to contacts, and I swipe my finger horizontally, it moves to contacts instantly instead of scrolling.
I already tried to disable/enable scrolling using Advanced Config, but that didn't help. Am I missing a settings somewhere?
This feature was removed with the change to 1.93.x.x Roms to speed things up in the interface. Trading off Eye Candy vs Speed. You cannot get it back short of switching to and older Rom like 1.37.x.x which was the vintage my unit shipped with.
(First of all, thank you for your answer.)
Too bad. Where can I find what the differences are between 1.93.x.x and 1.37.x.x?
if you cant live without those animations i suggest Swtos new 0.98 ROM with Touch FLO 3D 1.0. its fast as hell too!
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if you cant live without those animations i suggest Swtos new 0.98 ROM with Touch FLO 3D 1.0. its fast as hell too!
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It's not that I can't live without it, it's just that I really liked it... Weird though that they didn't make switching it back on an option.
Look into this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421434
You can install tlr-manila.cab to enable it.
Thank you for your reply.
Yes, I had tried that already but not only will that give me back the scrolling effects, but the slowness as well.
I have horizontal scrolling with SwiftBL v6 1.93 ROM.
EDIT: Oh, you mean the animated horizontal scrolling, yeh thats gone but it feels faster without it.
this is really funny...
i've upgraded to rom ver 1.93 since day one of launch and still have the horizontal scrolling between tabs in manila....
been reading so many threads about the disabled scrolling, really wonder why...
even my wife's TD retained the scrolling effect after upgrade
and i've not tweaked both TDs after the rom upgrading
I hope HTC'll make an option available to enable/disable graphic effects in a next room (it'd be the same thing Sony Ericsson did with P900 to speed up the symbian OS).
Yes, It' true, now it's much faster, but I loved those stupid effects ...
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Wait. I still can move through the screens sliding the tab with my thumb, but I neither have sliding effect nor fade effect for blocks background. This is what I call "graphic effects".
Zippy1970, your problem is you can't move through the screens sliding the tab with your thumb, isn't it?
well
Since i have my Diamond i Flashed Swift's 6.0 ROM and the TouchFLO Side scrolling is still there and the ROM is FAAAST
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Hi there,
I just got my diamond yesterday and I am very happy with it but some things really annoy me:
- Why did HTC took the green flashing light out of this device? Every HTC Device I used before had it (Himalaya, Magician, Prophet, StrTrk, Hermes). I really loved it, same with the Bluetooth LED...
Now the question: Is it really gone or maybe near the light sensor and can be activated via software ?
- The sensitivity of the Touchscreen is not as good as it was on my hermes. Where can I set this ?
- Why are the symbols in the taskbar for battery, 3G, G, E etc. so ugly ? They looked much better in the QVGA Versions. Any way to change them?
- Why are the ringtones so low on volume in comparison to hermes ? I hardly recognize when it rings in my pocket and I am in my car. Any way to make it louder ?
- The Startmenu is WAY to big, is it possible to make it in the old QVGA style ? Same for the context-menus. I don't like such big "recently used program icons" in my startmenu :-/
In all other manners it is a top device, I love it! Even the small battery is no problem for me because my hermes did not last longer than a day either. That was because of 3G Direct Push.
Any suggestions to my questions ?
Thanks in advance!
Kind regards from germany,
T.Sami
sunrise16V said:
- The Startmenu is WAY to big, is it possible to make it in the old QVGA style ? Same for the context-menus. I don't like such big "recently used program icons" in my startmenu :-/
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I can answer to this question. If you go to Settings, System and TouchFlo you can make it in the old style. I thinks the bigger one is much better because it allow you to use the menu with fingers.
App now on the market, thanks for all your help.
great emulation. see my magic/sapphire device specs below...
no sound
very slow response to fire/shoot tap
...other than those issues, nice work.
Hi, great looking and I like the neat touches about adding 10p etc.
Comments - as posted above, no sound and the motion of the base is very slow either by motion detection or using the trackball. Though the trackball seemed to be very intermittent.
I'm running a T-Mobile G2 touch with the latest stock rom. All other background apps, had been disabled too.
Most gracious thanks for your comments. I think I've found the sound bug proper now. I've also found a vast improvement in speed after some GFX tweaks.
The control issues sound odd as both the emulator & my i7500 don't have these problems (but neither have a trackball, the emulator has no sensor), maybe the speed increase will fix things, as the phone was probably getting bogged down with unnecessary drawPixels.
Version 5 is available in the 1st post above, be grateful of any further feedback.
Edit: I've also updated the sensor updated time to maximum to see if that helps.
Great improvemnet.
Sound - now works, firing, explosions, flying saucer. Though the sound of the "invaders" moving is slow, but I am guessing that is as the original?
Movement - The motion sensor works fine now, though the trackball still does not function for left or right movement. If you try the trackball, the app says "motion sensor disabled", but the trackball does not move the player. The fire function works when you depress the ball though.
I love it, takes me back
Daft question but
Could this be used with other arcade roms?
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Could this be used with other arcade roms?
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Yes, a limited few though, those what run on similar 8080 hardware (a few tweaks may be needed).
I will probably add these later.
OK, nearly at the finishing post. I reckon I've sorted the trackball issue, though I don't have a device with a trackball to test it on. I've also added the suggested full screen mode, though it runs a bit slow even after skipping a few frames, but I've left it in for the moment as it will encourage me to further optimize (will probably have a go at h/w acceleration in v2).
Version 6 Now available in the 1st post.
Trackball works fine now, not sure if it's just me but it seems slower than using the tilt method. Nice work.
I prefer the "bordered" view as it reminds me of the actual screen in the cabinet with the border around the black and white screen. Though on some machines they added coloured bands across the screen so that the invaders "appear" to change colour the lower they got. Maybe you could add that in?
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Just a thought, not sure if you can do it, but can you override the "back" key functionality, then you could use it as a fire button and the trackball would be movement only. This way it is slightly more authentic in having the left right control and a fire button just like the original.
OMG that's slow!
Uninstalled... sorry
Love the idea, though
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Trackball works fine now, not sure if it's just me but it seems slower than using the tilt method. Nice work.
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Seem to have a problem there... read the new control instructions in version & to see if that helps. It's hard to sort until I get a real device.
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I prefer the "bordered" view as it reminds me of the actual screen in the cabinet with the border around the black and white screen. Though on some machines they added coloured bands across the screen so that the invaders "appear" to change colour the lower they got. Maybe you could add that in?
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You might be thinking of 'Space Invaders Part II' or 'Space Invaders Deluxe'
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Just a thought, not sure if you can do it, but can you override the "back" key functionality, then you could use it as a fire button and the trackball would be movement only. This way it is slightly more authentic in having the left right control and a fire button just like the original.
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You can still used the touch screen when using the trackball.
I don't fancy overriding the back key
Henrikmand said:
OMG that's slow!
Uninstalled... sorry
Love the idea, though
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I've tried extra hard to speed things up a bit more in version 7.
Might be able to squeeze a bit more???
NEW UPDATE: v7
more speed
vibrator
control tweaks
U seem to just have increased the gamespeed, it still laggs like before.
Very slow and lag in sound.
Looks promising...
Hi guys and gals.
Long story... Gave my code a bit of decent profiling to see what was going on with the trackball. Seems like the cpu emulation core is taking so much time up that there is very little left for the main thread to pick up any events, and when it did, it bogged down the cpu thread. Trackball events have a huge time overhead with keyPressEvents the least, TouchEvents lie some where in the middle.
A nice solution would be to replace my java 8080 cpu source with native code (anyone want to help out here?), but my skills level is probably not up to it.
So, trackball support has now gone completely , replaced with screen buttons. Dpad will still work though, and touching almost anywhere on the screen, other than the left/right buttons will fire too (so your fingers aren't all over the place). Let me know what you's all think.
Found some extra speedups from the cpu core too, but had to butcher a lot of nicely structured code to get the gains.
Updated the first Post with the last version.
Thanks all.
Tidied up the GUI and while I was there...
Deluxe Support.
Catch the APK in the first post.
Could someone give it a final try to see if the controls problem has been fixed???
Thanks very much.
Now on the market. Thanks for all your help.
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Now on the market. Thanks for all your help.
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Well thats fine but since you've edited the thread now we don't know the title of this thing anymore
Hi, I'm using the Touch X 10.9 NUTS rom from MrRusch. But when I switch to landscape mode and I scroll through the tabs on the homescreen of touchflo 3d it gets quite slow and sometimes even starts lagging.
This also occurs when I try to type a text. The text appears very slowly on the screen. I know this is a common problem and I tried the fix sms lag registry thing, which helped to reduce almost all the lag when the screen is in portrait mode, but it's still there in landscape mode.
Does anyone else have similiar problems, laggy interface whilest in landscape mode but not in portrait mode?
Never... : p
Maybe a better place for this problem is the specific rom thread.. Why do you open a whole new thread just for a rom problem?
I flashed to this ROM recently: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
It is by far the fastest Leo ROM i have ever tried, and though in landscape there is a really teeny tiny lag in switching tabs (seriously it's nothing compared to others) but there definitely is no lags in typing or anything else...! Give it a go! (BTW - i downloaded the 23529 Build...)
Regards.
Hi,
I have just purchased an HD7 and I really like it so far but I have a question regarding some screen distortion I am seeing when I scroll through menu's, apps, etc...
For example (and where it is most noticable although it does happen in other areas as well) when I go to the applications menu (where all apps are located to the right of the Windows screen) and I scroll through the apps from top to bottom, all the writing beside each app icon becomes so distorted while scrolling (almost static like) that you cannot even make out what the words are saying until the scrolling stops and then everything is ledgable again. Is this normal?
On my Galaxy S the scrolling does not affect the font / writing this way at all and even on my old Omnia i910 I dont remember seeing this type of distortion when scrolling.
If someone can please advise me on this I would really appreciate it. Is this normal for this device? Does yours do it? Anyway to fix it?
Thanks
yiannisthegreek
It's normal behaviour but I'm not sure of the cause. From what I've seen, this only happens when using the black theme. If you use the white theme it doesn't happen.
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It's normal behaviour but I'm not sure of the cause. From what I've seen, this only happens when using the black theme. If you use the white theme it doesn't happen.
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Thank You for the reply. Really? Hmmm... That is odd. I wonder if this will be something that will be fixed in updates perhaps?
I use a black theme and this doesn't happen to me at all. Certainly not to the point it's unreadable.
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I use a black theme and this doesn't happen to me at all. Certainly not to the point it's unreadable.
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Hmmm... Now Im confused... One person says it happens to him and one says it does not.
Do you experience any distortion of the writing in apps, etc while scrolling? It is minimal when I scroll slowly but when I scroll fast it is quite noticable.
PS... I did also try the white theme and it does not do it in the white theme as was mentioned by the other poster... Only in the Black theme.
I guess I'm not sure what the deal is. When I'm scrolling fast, it could be a million dollar screen with perfect clarity and I STILL wouldn't be able to "read" what was there. I mean, I have 20-20 vision and am a pretty quick reader and I can barely read my chat log scrolling slowly. When scrolling fast enough to "distort" you would have to be able to read about 120 words per second (I scroll through three screens worth of text in less than a second, about 40 words per screen). That's 7200 words per minute which is darn near World Record Speed Reading (not counting those who skim most of it and lose a great deal of comprehension).
I'd just like to say that it's not a major issue for me, but it does happen. When scrolling the app list, the text does fade out, but I don't really see it as much of an issue as the items are moving so fast that you wouldn't be able to read the text at any rate. As the list is alphabetical, I know where I need to stop, I'm not reading the apps one by one as I go along.
I'm not sure now if the OP is experiencing a different issue but he did confirm, as I have, that it doesn't happen in the white theme.
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I'd just like to say that it's not a major issue for me, but it does happen. When scrolling the app list, the text does fade out, but I don't really see it as much of an issue as the items are moving so fast that you wouldn't be able to read the text at any rate. As the list is alphabetical, I know where I need to stop, I'm not reading the apps one by one as I go along.
I'm not sure now if the OP is experiencing a different issue but he did confirm, as I have, that it doesn't happen in the white theme.
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@Shadowise,
Yes... This is what I am talking about and again Thank You for your answers. I also really notice this when using the People Live Tile and especially in the synced Facebook listing. The text DOES fade out and the smaller the text the more faded it seems to become. Again... This is in the Black theme.
Also, I have noticed while in the People "hub" when scrolling from side to side that the screen itself darkens / dims out while scrolling and it also DOES this in the White theme as well. Is this also normal behavior?
If your not sure what I am talking about then please go into the People tile and just hold your finger on the top of the screen (where it says people in big letters) and slowly slide your finger and you will see the screen darken / dim out as it scrolls - unless there is something wrong with MY device in which case you may not notice what I am talking about.
Please let me know if this happens to you and if this is normal as well. Again... my Android does NOT do these things and so I am not sure if this is normal behavior.
Thanks in advance...
yiannisthegreek
My screen absolutely does not do this. The people tile actualy looks sharper than the apps screen, regardless of how fast I scroll. The screen does not dim out _at all_.
Black background.
It happens over here as well this is due to Motion Blur, the quality of screen used by HTC is poor and this is a known issue with the HTC HD7 and HTC Surround. HTC should have used a better screen specially for its flagship device on the Windows phone 7 platform. But i guess thats the main reason they didn't; the platform is new theres no need to increase costs for a niche emerging market.
Ok... I am confused again... One answer says that this absolutely DOES NOT happen to him and another answer says that it DOES... LOL!!!
This happens because of the 4.3" screen. It's not the best screen in the world. The 4.1" dell venue pro screen never exhibited this behavior and when I switched to the hd7 I noticed it immediately.
It's called response time, it's not fast enough as some other screen, basically it's more prominent while using black theme because it takes full response time (i.e. 8ms) for a pixel to change it colour from black to white and then to black again while you scrolling.
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This happens because of the 4.3" screen. It's not the best screen in the world. The 4.1" dell venue pro screen never exhibited this behavior and when I switched to the hd7 I noticed it immediately.
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The funny thing is that the more I play with it the more I notice that this only really happens within the stock Microsoft OS apps like People, Zune, etc. When I scroll through other 3rd party apps such as Facebook (actual app and not the synced version in the People tab), FIM (Facebook Instant Messenger), among other 3rd party apps that this fade out / distortion does not take place.
Anyone else find the same?
EDIT... I have confirmed the fade out / screen distortion to again seemingly only to be affecting the Microsoft stock OS apps again after going into Marketplace, Office, (along with the others mentioned above). It does not seem to affect 3rd party apps... Facebook, FIM, Yellowpages, YouTube, etc.
Again... Anyone else find the same or can check?
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My screen absolutely does not do this. The people tile actualy looks sharper than the apps screen, regardless of how fast I scroll. The screen does not dim out _at all_.
Black background.
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We're not talking about the whole screen, just the text.
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We're not talking about the whole screen, just the text.
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Actually... I am talking about like 3/4 of the entire screen when scrolling from side to side in any Microsoft stock OS App.
Like I said in my previous post... if you go into say the People live tile and place your finger on the top portion of the screen where in big writing it says "people" and just slowly start to move your finger to scroll you will see the bottom half of the entire page / app dim out until you remove your finger or it completes its scroll.
As I said... it does this on my device in EVERY Microsoft STOCK OS app like People, Zune, Marketplace, XBOX Live, etc but in 3rd party apps it does NOT do this. This happens in WHITE theme as well.
To try and reproduce this please go to any Microsoft OS App like "people", press your finger at the top of the page and move your finger side to side in short movements and watch your screen. You should see the dimming effect unless my phone is defective or something.
Please tell me what you find.
i'm pretty sure this is not a bug or an issue, it's just intentional, and it's 100% a software thing, you can see that in many wp7 reviews...
but a different thing is the effect you see scrolling the applist, that one is related to the hd7 screen and you won't see it using, for example, an omnia7
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i'm pretty sure this is not a bug or an issue, it's just intentional, and it's 100% a software thing, you can see that in many wp7 reviews...
but a different thing is the effect you see scrolling the applist, that one is related to the hd7 screen and you won't see it using, for example, an omnia7
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Do you have an HD7? Can you confirm if your screen does the same "dim / fade out" thing in the Microsoft apps as I have described? Also... Why does it not do this in 3rd party apps then like youtube for example? I have even checked the HTC Hub app and in the HTC app store it does not fade / dim out but it sure does in the Microsoft Marketplace app. Weird.
As for the thing you mention about the app list and the screen - well that is my first big dissapointment with this phone. I have a Samsung Galaxy S and of course the SAMOLED is AWESOME but this phone is said to have the S-LCD (Super LCD) display which is supposed to be a pretty good screen too.
Well... I found a youtube link regarding the BLACK theme scrolling words distortion. Here it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RperdOR8y5g
But I have not found anything about the screen fade/dimming in Microsoft apps so I hope one of you out here can reproduce it and tell me my phone is ok (even though it will still kinda suck)... LOL!!!
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It's called response time, it's not fast enough as some other screen, basically it's more prominent while using black theme because it takes full response time (i.e. 8ms) for a pixel to change it colour from black to white and then to black again while you scrolling.
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this is the full reason why ^
just got my razr i here in the uk. love the device so far. fantastic form factor and importantly for me, a superb battery life one things nagging me though...is anyone else seeing a slight 'jerky' animation? i see it when swiping left to the 'quick settings' screen and when pressing the apps button. once in the apps though the left <> right swiping is perfect! pressing the home button from the home screen to show 'manage pages' too is pretty jerky or laggy but not sure if that is how it should be this guy sees it initailly when starting the game just before 4.00 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILUVIwiNF0
but once the game is running all seems ok. this guy i can see it at 1.57 when he swipes left from the homescreen to the 'quick settings'
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seems like it occurs when at some places within the phone but not everywhere. have i been spoilt using a nexus for the past week running a silky smooth jellybean vs this running ics? or is it a defective unit?
I would say on mine there is the slightest pause when moving to the quick settings that I hadn't noticed before! I hope it doesn't bug me now!!
Going to the manage pages screen or indeed the "helicopter view" (pinch zoom on the homescreen) is really jerky. But I dont find any noticeable lag or jerkiness anywhere else. In fact I find the whole experience smoother and slicker than even my Nexus 7. The only better Android experience I had was Jelly Bean on the Galaxy Nexus which is super silky.
Jelly Bean is slightly faster at a number of things especially switching screen context as the CPU is ramped to a high clock speed as soon as you touch the screen. I noticed the improvement in opening things like the app drawer when I had my Galaxy Nexus and upgraded to JB.
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I would say on mine there is the slightest pause when moving to the quick settings that I hadn't noticed before! I hope it doesn't bug me now!!
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ooops sorry about that! :laugh:well i've adjusted both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off and that certainly speeds the whole ics experience up so that is worth doing if you have not. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
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ooops sorry about that! :laugh:well i've adjusted both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off and that certainly speeds the whole ics experience up so that is worth doing if you have not. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
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Does that not disbale animations?
don't think so. just seems to speed things up a touch.
This does indeed deactivate some Animations but only the ones Navigating in Apps or Settings and so on.
The actual Launcher Animation is not changed at all.
I have the same lag and its not so bad but still somehow annoying.
Didn't noticed that so much in all the test videos out there.
Someone tried to do a hard reset and start from scratch? Maybe fixes it.
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Does that not disbale animations?
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I noticed really jerky animations on an M I saw at a Verizon kiosk, and the i seems to be fine from videos I see.