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As I hope is still visible in my signature, I was running the Beta 2 version of SX66 1.40.122 standardized EXT ROM Chris Daly put together (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Wiki_Dev_Test5) . All was fine. Until now.
I decided to upgrade the Radio to 1.13.00. I think I did it right (reading the wiki: using the directory Chris' Roms were in, I replaced the Radio Rom from Chris with 1.13.00, then edited the fix.bat file with the device id, wwe info and provider. Then I ran the batch file, and used the upgrade utility) All was fine.
I used Xbackup to restore my contacts and appointments from SD Card
For some reason, with Radio 1.13.00, my default ringtone will ring only when someone not in my contacts calls. When someone in my contacts calls, it plays another ringtone. When I look in photocontacts, there is nothing other than the default ringtone selected for all users in the list.
I should mention the Caller ID Version is 1.20 (Build 19167)
Questions/Observations:
(1) is there a method to delete the callerID database and not lose the contacts? I thought a backup of contacts only backs up the contacts, but for some reason, it seems a ringtone database of some sort is corrupt.
(2) is my best bet to do a hard reset, go back and use a tool like STGViewer to extract my contacts, and then see what happens?
(3) What do you think caused the problem? If I got back to 1.12.00 Radio, I think my problem will still exist, unless it is the radio rom causing the database to get corrupt.
(4) I found that if I assign a ringtone to a user, then exit the photocontacts, sometimes when I go back in, the ringtone is assigned to multiple users, but even so, another (neither the phone default, nor the assigned ) ringtone plays ...
(5) Again, if someone not in my contacts calls, the default ringtone rings
Please share your comments / experiences/ suggestions
This is very strange indeed.
-kevino
additional comments
I tried to add a photo and a custom photo to a contact, and now when they call, the default (not custom) ringtone and default (not custom) photo show up.
then I hard rest, and manually entered myself a contact, assigned a ringtone from the photocontacts interface, and the result: my custom photo and ringtones come up.
My conclusion: My database for photocontacts is corrupt and got saved with xbackup :evil:
Pardon me if this sound stupid. I am having problem getting a ringtone for incoming call to "stick" in the phone setting. I have this MP3 ringtone that I like and would like to set it to ring whever the incoming calls are from stranger, private caller or people not on my contacts and contact I've not assigned unique ringtone to.
I would go into phone>sound>ring tone to set it to that MP3. But after a little while, it would revert back to "Ring-WindowsMobile" tone which is not loud enough for me.
Anyone knows how to make my selection of ring tone stick once I set it?
Thats strange, my ringtone sticks.
Maybe you havent placed the ringtone on the device?(Has to be on device not storage card)
I am using a ring tone stored in the device under window\ring.
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Pardon me if this sound stupid. I am having problem getting a ringtone for incoming call to "stick" in the phone setting. I have this MP3 ringtone that I like and would like to set it to ring whever the incoming calls are from stranger, private caller or people not on my contacts and contact I've not assigned unique ringtone to.
I would go into phone>sound>ring tone to set it to that MP3. But after a little while, it would revert back to "Ring-WindowsMobile" tone which is not loud enough for me.
Anyone knows how to make my selection of ring tone stick once I set it?
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I had the same problem. I installed the WAV file in the ringtone folder and it worked, until I installed GSPlayer. It made file associations, including WAV files and so it wouldn't play as the ringtone. So if you've installed some sort of media player recently, check the file associations. If they play WAV files, then uncheck it and your ringtone should work.
I have the same problem.
I'm using the 8125 "OldRing .wav" in my \My Documents\My Ringtones folder. The ringtone sticks for a few days, through soft resets and such, and then suddenly one day it just changes back to the crappy default Ring-WindowsMobile.
I haven't figured when or why it switches back, but I don't think it has anything to do with media players. I've got lots of media players installed (MortPlayer, Pocket Player, PocketMusic, and TCPMP). I use them all the time and they don't appear to affect my ringtone.
If it matters to anyone, I'm using Helmi's Dynamic Big Storage. Can't remember if this happened on my stock AT&T ROM.
Forced ringtone
This happened to me again. I think it happens after my phone locks up and has to be reset via button next to mic.
Anyway, I was fed up with this, so I figured if something keeps reverting our ringtone to default, why not change the default to the ringtone we want? I did a search in the registry for Ring-WindowsMobile and found/changed it at these keys:HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone\Wave = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\SavedSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\Sound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring2\Sound = ringtoneI also added my ringtone the beginning of this multistring (in case the first is selected as default somewhere):HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingtonesHopefully this should take care of our problem!
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This happened to me again. I think it happens after my phone locks up and has to be reset via button next to mic.
Anyway, I was fed up with this, so I figured if something keeps reverting our ringtone to default, why not change the default to the ringtone we want? I did a search in the registry for Ring-WindowsMobile and found/changed it at these keys:HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone\Wave = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\DefaultSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\SavedSound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0\Sound = ringtone
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring2\Sound = ringtoneI also added my ringtone the beginning of this multistring (in case the first is selected as default somewhere):HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingtonesHopefully this should take care of our problem!
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Please advise if the above works and it rings your preferred ring tone. Thanks.
Does it work??
Hi BennTech,
Please advise whether your registry changes got rid of the WM ring tone and replace it with your preferred ringtone permanently.
Thanks!
So far so good...
I haven't posted back that they work because my ringtone switching happens rarely--maybe once or twice a week, and thus I can't verify that this fix works yet. However, I'll only be able to tell if the fix doesn't work, because if it does work, then when the phone switches back to "default" for no apparent reason, it should stay as my ringtone because the default IS my ringtone. Quid pro quo.
Regardless, there's no reason for you not to change them, too. However, if you're worried about what you're changing, here's a little more information:HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\Phone: default ringtone settings for known callers (I think)
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring: default ringtone settings
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview: not sure where this one is used, but virtually every hack of the previous key changes this one as well
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring0: your current ringtone settings
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ring2: no idea, but don't think it's used
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ringtones: multistring that lists only ringtones. Only these ringtones and the sound files from \My Documents\My Ringtones show up in the Phone control panel, as opposed to the Sound control panel that lists all sounds. If you put your ringtone in \Windows, you'll need to mod this to have it show up in Phone control panel.
Thanks for your feedback. Currently I am trying out mring and set the unknown/no caller ID/no specific ring tone assigned callers to play my favorite MP3 ring tone.
So I'll wait for the mring trial period expires, before I modify the registry based on your advice.
i could not set unique ring to each contact,bec my contacts were on my sims, u need to have the contacts in the phone memory to use that feature. once copied my contact to the phone it worked like a charm
phaej said:
i could not set unique ring to each contact,bec my contacts were on my sims, u need to have the contacts in the phone memory to use that feature. once copied my contact to the phone it worked like a charm
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That's not the problem we have. I don't use sim contacts at all, and I'm not trying to assign unique rings. We're setting the regular ringtone and it works for a period of time, but then it mysteriously reverts back to WM6's default Ring-WindowsMobile.
BTW, so far so good on my hack. Been a week and my ringtone hasn't reverted back to the lame default.
joeleung888 said:
Pardon me if this sound stupid. I am having problem getting a ringtone for incoming call to "stick" in the phone setting. I have this MP3 ringtone that I like and would like to set it to ring whever the incoming calls are from stranger, private caller or people not on my contacts and contact I've not assigned unique ringtone to.
I would go into phone>sound>ring tone to set it to that MP3. But after a little while, it would revert back to "Ring-WindowsMobile" tone which is not loud enough for me.
Anyone knows how to make my selection of ring tone stick once I set it?
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me too
I have the same problem on my T-mobile Dash WM5. It happened after I installed PocketMusic. I uninstalled it , and no change yet. I restarted the phone, nothing.. :S I believe I have lost the mp3 plugin support, cuz the explorer doesn't recognize the mp3 format now. Can anyone help us please ?
mohamedmohsen2000 said:
I believe I have lost the mp3 plugin support, cuz the explorer doesn't recognize the mp3 format now.
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I think you're trying to say that since you uninstalled PocketMusic, your .MP3 files are no longer associated to a media player and thus give you an error like "There is no application associated with..." when you launch them in Explorer. Correct? That's an extension-mapping problem, which you can correct with a utlity like Resco Explorer. This thread is about ringtones, specifically how our phone's ringtone mysteriously reverts back to the WM6 default.
Any idea why?
I have Xpress Mail set up to push my work emails to my Tilt. It seems that everytime a new email comes in via Xpress Mail, the ring tone will automatically revert to WM6 default ring tone (even though I've set it to use my favorite MP3 tone).
Other emails come in (not via Xpress Mail) do not cause the ring tone to change though.
What gives?????
joeleung888 said:
It seems that everytime a new email comes in via Xpress Mail, the ring tone will automatically revert to WM6 default ring tone (even though I've set it to use my favorite MP3 tone).
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Wow. That's weird. Personally, I don't use XpressMail because I've got my own Exchange server at home. My Exchange push doesn't appear to corrupt my ringtone.
However, at least this gives you a reproducible test to see if the hack works. Try changing the registry entries one at a time (or all three at once to different ringtones), send yourself an e-mail, and let us know if the hack fixes the problem and which registry entry it reverts to (should be HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\DefaultSound).
I've made one registry change as per your advice as below
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\MyMP3 tone
Before email came in, called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it rang my MP3 tone perfectly. But then I sent myself an email (via Xpress Mail) and after the email came in, it reverted back to WM6 default ringtone. Worst was, when I called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it would display a call came in (private) but did not ring a sound.
Now I just changed the registry to the dafault WM6 tone again, at least I won't miss any call.
Are there anything I should do?
Sorry for late reply.
Well, shoot. I don't know what's going on there. I'm running out of ideas here, but there's still a few things to try/eliminate since you can reproduce the problem at will.
Check the ring volume. Do your test and check the ring volume just to be sure that's not the problem. I only bring this stupidly simple check because a couple of times my ring volume has mysteriously set itself to off despite the fact the I toggle between full and vibrate only.
Check if the issue is MP3 only. Change the registry values to a WMA sound file instead of MP3, then run your test to see if the problem is specific to MP3 or if it extends to Windows' default extension.
Test all registry entries. Change the values of all the registry entries I listed, preferably each to a different WMA ringtone, and test again. This should tell you which registry entry it's using when it corrupts the ringtone.
Search the entire registry for the default ringtone and replace it. As a last resort, do a simple find in your registry for "Ring-WindowsMobile" and replace all occurrences with another WMA file. There shouldn't be any others, but if there is, change them and test again (and let me know where they are).
I know this is a lot of tedious testing, but since the ringtone is kinda vital for phone functionality I guess its worth it.
Good news for me...my ringtone appears to finally be sticking. Haven't had it revert back since I made the registry changes two weeks ago. Woohoo!
BennTech said:
Sorry for late reply.
Well, shoot. I don't know what's going on there. I'm running out of ideas here, but there's still a few things to try/eliminate since you can reproduce the problem at will.
Check the ring volume. Do your test and check the ring volume just to be sure that's not the problem. I only bring this stupidly simple check because a couple of times my ring volume has mysteriously set itself to off despite the fact the I toggle between full and vibrate only.
Check if the issue is MP3 only. Change the registry values to a WMA sound file instead of MP3, then run your test to see if the problem is specific to MP3 or if it extends to Windows' default extension.
Test all registry entries. Change the values of all the registry entries I listed, preferably each to a different WMA ringtone, and test again. This should tell you which registry entry it's using when it corrupts the ringtone.
Search the entire registry for the default ringtone and replace it. As a last resort, do a simple find in your registry for "Ring-WindowsMobile" and replace all occurrences with another WMA file. There shouldn't be any others, but if there is, change them and test again (and let me know where they are).
I know this is a lot of tedious testing, but since the ringtone is kinda vital for phone functionality I guess its worth it.
Good news for me...my ringtone appears to finally be sticking. Haven't had it revert back since I made the registry changes two weeks ago. Woohoo!
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1/ Ringtone is on
2/ Will give it a try with ringtone other than MP3
3/ I did change all registry settings but to no avail
Another thing I noticed is that, when Xpress Mail arrives, besides reverting the ringtone to WM6 tone, it also changes the ring type. I set it to Vibrate and ring, but it would revert to vibrate then ring. Strange.
joeleung888 said:
I've made one registry change as per your advice as below
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\MyMP3 tone
Before email came in, called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it rang my MP3 tone perfectly. But then I sent myself an email (via Xpress Mail) and after the email came in, it reverted back to WM6 default ringtone. Worst was, when I called my Tilt (with blocked caller ID) it would display a call came in (private) but did not ring a sound.
Now I just changed the registry to the dafault WM6 tone again, at least I won't miss any call.
Are there anything I should do?
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Forgive me for replying here, as I own a TYTN, not a KAISER, but I too was having this issue using the stock AT&T WM6 Rom, and I also have Xpress Mail installed. I just used the regedit approach to find all of the places where the stock ringtone existed and replaced all of them with the name of the ringtone I want to use.
FWIW, I never associated the problem with Xpress Mail, as I found my phone reverted whenever it was boot ... either with a power cycle or a soft reset. I don't often SR, but as I change my batteries daily, it meant I had to remember to reset my ringtone every day or it was back to the default.
Anyway, after doing the regedit, I found my desired ringtone is now sticking between power-cycles and soft resets.
As an experiment, I finally sent myself an Xpress Mail, and I am happy to report that it did not change the ringtone back to the default.
But as a question to joeleung888 ... do you also have phoneAlarm installed? I mention this because:
1) I cannot see the association between this problem and Xpress Mail
2) There were some difficulties in development of phoneAlarm and the Tilt
3) phoneAlarm would be accessing both Xpress Mail AND your ringtone settings
Based on these three things, maybe the problem lies with the combo of phoneAlarm and Xpress Mail. Maybe try uninstalling each of them, one-at-a-time, and testing. It MIGHT isolate the problem. If the problem is with phoneAlarm, you should alert Bruce (aka Penguin) on the pA forums. He is always very helpful.
Anyway ... just an idea. Good luck,
-pvs
can i set mp3's as sms tones and ringtones?
i have a kaiser.
please help.
thx
With some apps this is posible,
one of them is Ringo, i believe.
ali-bb said:
can i set mp3's as sms tones and ringtones?
i have a kaiser.
please help.
thx
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Hi ali-bb,
of course you can
Just copy your mp3 file into folder \windows\rings and you can choose it as ring tone.
BTW, normally music mp3s are very long and stereo, which wastes your storage space. So the best is to shorten your mp3 on your PC with a program like Audacity (freeware, but there are many other programs for this too) and save it as mono mp3.
HansOlo
MP3's as ringtones
There's an even easier way to get an MP3 ring / SMS tone using the Kaiser.
Open the MP3 in HTC Audio Manager or load it using the 'Library' selection.
Select 'Menu', 'Set as Ring tone' ... this will take you into the next menu.
Select 'Trim' and mark in and out the length of your ring tone.
Select 'OK' and then save to Ringtone folder.
'Start', 'Settings', 'Personal', Sounds and Notifications' will be where you want to set up the appropriate tones.
If you don't have 'HTC Audio Manager', you'll find the cab on the forum.
Enjoy
as far as sms alerts, with original rom you'd have to convert it to wav and put it in the windows folder.
i've seen cooked roms handle whole mp3 songs for sms/mms alerts
Even easier way:
On WM 6.5 click and hold the mp3 file in File Explorer, then select set as ringtone from the menu.
Works for me. No need to shorten file.
htc mp3 trimmer works awesome you can choose how long u want the ringtone to be, save it as default or have it saved to ringtones folder, it will show up in your list of ringtones,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412410
or if your like me and only use custom ringtones you can go here and upload and create your own ringtones for free, no ads or hastle,
http://www.phonezoo.com/
hope this has been some help
In 6.5 how do you use an Mp3 for SMS but stop it being listed in Manila Audio Library ?
hesian said:
In 6.5 how do you use an Mp3 for SMS but stop it being listed in Manila Audio Library ?
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i dont think you can eliminate it from audio library but i think any music file you put into the "sounds" folder in app data will show in your ringtone list, or rename it to RT- infront of the mp3 title and put into your ringtones folder in "my documents"
thats what happens with mine, hope this helps
go to
htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-hd2/help/audio-and-ringtones
As stated above, when I had my T-mo mda, in order to get audio to work for sms, had to convert it to .wav easy enough to do tho.
ajs007 said:
There's an even easier way to get an MP3 ring / SMS tone using the Kaiser.
Open the MP3 in HTC Audio Manager or load it using the 'Library' selection.
Select 'Menu', 'Set as Ring tone' ... this will take you into the next menu.
Select 'Trim' and mark in and out the length of your ring tone.
Select 'OK' and then save to Ringtone folder.
'Start', 'Settings', 'Personal', Sounds and Notifications' will be where you want to set up the appropriate tones.
If you don't have 'HTC Audio Manager', you'll find the cab on the forum.
Enjoy
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This is the easier way!! Thanks!!!
I have a LG gm750, with windows mobile 6.5
When I go to "Settings -> Personal -> Sounds and Notifications"
than I Change to the TAB "Notifications" and I have no option to change SMS ringtone!
And I repeat: SMS RINGTONE! SMS!
It doesnt matter If I put the song in this or that location... simply dont have the option to change the ringtone...
HELP!
ali-bb said:
can i set mp3's as sms tones and ringtones?
i have a kaiser.
please help.
thx
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to set an Audio file as your Alert:
Activesync:
Using Activesync, select ""Explore"".
Open the ""Windows Mobile-based device""
Open the ""Application Data"" Folder.
Drag and drop file into the ""Sounds"" folder.
To set the file as your tone, go to Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications Tab>Select file from drop down.
Windows Mobile Device Center:
Using WMDC, select ""File Management"" and ""Browse the contents of your device"".
Open the Application Data Folder.
Locate and open the ""Sounds"" folder.
Drop the file into the ""Sounds"" Folder.
To set the file as your tone, go to Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications Tab>Select file from drop down.
From an SD Card:
On your device, go to Start>Programs>Tools>File Explorer.
Locate the file.
Highlight the file and tap Men>Edit>Copy.
Navigate to and open the “Application Data” Folder.
Open the “Sounds” folder.
Tap Menu>Edit>Paste.
To set the file as your tone, go to Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications Tab>Select file from drop down.
Your device supports .wav files for custom alerts.
To set an Audio file as your Alert:
Activesync:
Using Activesync, select ""Explore"".
Open the ""Windows Mobile-based device""
Open the ""Application Data"" Folder.
Drag and drop file into the ""Sounds"" folder.
To set the file as your tone, go to Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications Tab>Select file from drop down.
Windows Mobile Device Center:
Using WMDC, select ""File Management"" and ""Browse the contents of your device"".
Open the Application Data Folder.
Locate and open the ""Sounds"" folder.
Drop the file into the ""Sounds"" Folder.
To set the file as your tone, go to Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications Tab>Select file from drop down.
From an SD Card:
On your device, go to Start>Programs>Tools>File Explorer.
Locate the file.
Highlight the file and tap Men>Edit>Copy.
Navigate to and open the “Application Data” Folder.
Open the “Sounds” folder.
Tap Menu>Edit>Paste.
To set the file as your tone, go to Start>Settings>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications Tab>Select file from drop down.
How to ad mp3 as ring signal and sms signal in diamond2??
Kind regards/ F
You must put them in your " My Documents " map
Then they should be in the list of all the standard ringtones
I think you can just add them to the root of the storage card, or personally I add them to My Documents\My Ringtones.
I think SMS alerts are slightly different. I find you have to add them to the \windows directory.
Hope this helps - my first post!
Cheers,
James.
The ring tone can be of Mp3 format. Place the file in /mydevice/My Documents/Ringtones.
The sms alert tone MUST be in wav format. Mp3 format wil NOT work!
The sms alert tone (in wav format!) must be placed in the windows folder. E.g. /mydevice/windows.
Changing SMS alert tone is done in the following way on the phone:
1) Go to settings.
2) Press left soft key named advanced.
3) Select left soft key named personal.
3) Select sounds and messages.
4) Select number two tab named messages.
5) Select the new messages option and select the sms alert tone after own choice.
Changing ringtone is done in the same way with 5) being to select new call option.
On my D2 the audio files don't have to be .wav files. I use a normal .mp3 file as a text alert.
The only difference with my ringtone is that I have to place the text alert file in \my documents, whereas the files I use for my ringtone can be placed wherever I want.
Tones for sms must be in your Windows folder just put the tone you want in there. then go to sms tone and select.
trust me i have done it.....
Marko
For me it worked with SMS putting MP3s in Application Data/Sounds
I guess it deppends on the rom. I have the dutch one, and like I said: I have to place the files in the main \my documents folder.
ULJ said:
The ring tone can be of Mp3 format. Place the file in /mydevice/My Documents/Ringtones.
The sms alert tone MUST be in wav format. Mp3 format wil NOT work!
The sms alert tone (in wav format!) must be placed in the windows folder. E.g. /mydevice/windows.
Changing SMS alert tone is done in the following way on the phone:
1) Go to settings.
2) Press left soft key named advanced.
3) Select left soft key named personal.
3) Select sounds and messages.
4) Select number two tab named messages.
5) Select the new messages option and select the sms alert tone after own choice.
Changing ringtone is done in the same way with 5) being to select new call option.
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Cheers, that was the best way I found, nice and simple too..
Hey all,
I have had an Xperia for about 6 months now and one thing that i have been unable to do is set a custom text tone. For some reason it will only let me select from the default tones. I would be grateful if somebody could guide me to a way round this so i can set my own text tone.
Cheers in advance for any help offered.
The Mole said:
Hey all,
I have had an Xperia for about 6 months now and one thing that i have been unable to do is set a custom text tone. For some reason it will only let me select from the default tones. I would be grateful if somebody could guide me to a way round this so i can set my own text tone.
Cheers in advance for any help offered.
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Where is your mp3 song? it must be in the root directory of the SD Card or inside Xperia "My documents" folder.
Then you should be able to select it on settings --> personal --> phone
ive wanted a custom text tone aswel but without luck as yet
try out with wav files rather then mp3 ones
not sure if it support mp3 for old basic pda functions such
as notifications it may only be for ring tones it support mp3
Rudegar said:
try out with wav files rather then mp3 ones
not sure if it support mp3 for old basic pda functions such
as notifications it may only be for ring tones it support mp3
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No, it does support mp3 for notifications. I currently have an mp3 for new sms.
it does support mp3 tones.
For text tones you have to put it into the Windows directory folder.
For call tones you have to put it into the My Documents>My ringtones folder.
where is the windows folder you have to put it into? sorry im new to all this
open your file explorer.. go up until u are at My Device. there you can see windows folder, open it and paste the mp3s or audio file(s) that you want them to appear in the text tone setting..
lol cheers that was well easy