Anyone else interested in this browser? It looks like it will kick ass and who knows they might make a mobile app for it...outside of Android.
Reading your post using it now.
I will give it a go, but I do like Firefox.
opera been ok for me 7 years now on pc
and a few on pda
I've been using it for about 30mins now, it has some quirks but overall speed is the fastest I have seen in a long time.
Check out the cartoon about it:
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
Just installed it on my HTC Shift, and it seems pretty good so far.
Regards,
Dave
Yea it is really fast. I like it.
Maybe in the future could be a good option, but now in Beta... I´ll stick to Opera.
There is no options to personalize, change color, etc, speed is good but not as good as they anounce
Don´t let go with Ads mates! Google want´s all the "Internet World", at least they have to pay us for that!!
Cheers,
it is fast though..but cant replace my Opera..no support for Emails so useless..but it has some fetures which makes it a lil nices
I've tried on my Acer One, and it works very fast, both to launch, and to open web pages. It is very low memory consuming, so i think it will be my preferred browser.
My problem with Opera is it's unstable nature with certain sites, especially older forums. Sometimes it can be a major PITA.
I downloaded it last night, it seems much faster than Firefox. I didn't know there were so many ads on some of the forums I visit I'll stick with Firefox so I don't see the ads.
** This morning I noticed that GoogleUpdate tried to access the internet about 12 times last night. This was with Chrome closed!! I don't give any programs access to the internet for updates.
I have found a problem with Chrome and vBulletin boards like XDA.
It is incorrectly turning DST ON in Eastern Australia making all times out by an hour.
In
User Control Panel
Setting DST Correction option to [Always Off] works around the problem for now. Something amiss in the Chrome javascript engine perhaps?
Without making this change whenever I switch between IE or Chrome with a vBulletin board I get an auto DST update message. IE time is correct. Chrome is wrong.
Anyone else wee this?
You might want to check the EULA a little closer there. It is definitely a boilerplate with some wide ranging implications of they enforced it. It also has a number of bugs, such as a carpet bombing vulnerability right off the get go. Nice idea and if they were to put a decent EULA on it, I might use it.... In the mean time, I'll stick with SeaMonkey or Opera.
-Will
IM USING IT RIGHT NOW!!!
It PWNS!!!
The EULA agreement has already been debunked just check section 9.4....here is how another user explained it:
Actually this is pretty flawed. I know this was posted in MANY other places as well, and I can't write to the authors of ALL those posts, but here's where copypasta news and blog entries have their flaws.
If you read section 9.4 closely, you'll see what I mean:
9.4 Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content
That "limited license" it refers to is what has exploded onto the internet as a violation of rights, privacy, etc. Again, if you actually read section 11, you'll see that the limited license is only for the promotion of Chrome, and this only holds to things that aren't already covered under other rights, such as copyright or intellectual property. Basically, this boils down to: Google can use anything that is online to promote itself, if one of it's users accesses that site. Which, in all honesty, it could do anyway.
This doesn't violate anything. And if you're still scared of it, use Chromium, the active open source project without the EULA that Chrome is based on.
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As for bugs. I have noticed the DST bug, also it seems spell correction doesn't work on some boards I post on. Other then that it's the best browser I prefer.
Sledutah said:
I downloaded it last night, it seems much faster than Firefox. I didn't know there were so many ads on some of the forums I visit I'll stick with Firefox so I don't see the ads.
** This morning I noticed that GoogleUpdate tried to access the internet about 12 times last night. This was with Chrome closed!! I don't give any programs access to the internet for updates.
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I uninstalled it yesterday. After installation it was still trying to access the internet via GoogleUpdate. I went through the registry and there were tons of references to googleupdates and chrome. I deleted all of them and haven't had any more requests. Wow, don't think I'll even reinstall it in the future just for that.
Theres some kind of memory leak
Whenever i run it
My CPU usage shoots WAY UP
Its fast but dam should it be taxing my processor like that
Cool browser
I love it, been using it for about a week now LOL. But there is still a lot of work needs to be done!
Google Chrome is so much faster on many websites, especially on XDA-developers.com, where it is seconds faster when switching between pages in the forum.
And by using privoxy on newspapers, etc., you can get rid of those annoying ads with ease.
Related
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Quite fast, easy navigation, good interface and amount of options.
Doesn't support plugins in it's current state though.
Sorry if this is old news (feel free to ridicule me etc.
I haven't seen it before. Have you tested it? I'm looking for something new as Opera doesn't seem to play well with my Wifi.
Hmmm not sure if I like this part tho:
6. Expiry of User License
You may use the Software from the date on which you install the Software to May 31th, 2008. Once this period has elapsed, you must completely delete the Software and, in the case where it has been stored in removable media, dispose of or erase it after rendering it unusable. Furthermore, the evaluation license granted to you hereunder will terminate in cases where you violate this Agreement or where ACCESS notifies you of the termination at its sole discretion, and also in that case, you shall carry out the deletion and disposal processes mentioned above.
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I haven't seen it before. Have you tested it? I'm looking for something new as Opera doesn't seem to play well with my Wifi.
Hmmm not sure if I like this part tho:
6. Expiry of User License
You may use the Software from the date on which you install the Software to May 31th, 2008. Once this period has elapsed, you must completely delete the Software and, in the case where it has been stored in removable media, dispose of or erase it after rendering it unusable. Furthermore, the evaluation license granted to you hereunder will terminate in cases where you violate this Agreement or where ACCESS notifies you of the termination at its sole discretion, and also in that case, you shall carry out the deletion and disposal processes mentioned above.
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It's a free beta of a not-so-free browser. Sure no one likes to pay but opera mobile isn't free either. I don't see how this is a bad thing.
And yeah, I have used it. Thus my comments in the initial post.
For some reason I misread your first post, thought you just found it.
Should have specified Opera Mini hasn't worked for me..
But you're right, if it works good, and the price isn't crazy, then paying isn't bad. Just from my first impression ofthe page it was a free product (just my perception) - then read the agreement and saw the date it will die off. Will go back and read the site again tho. Will install it either way later to test it out.
Cheers,
Matthew
I don't understand the business model of Access for their NetFront browser. The last commercially available version is still 3.3. The technical preview of version 3.4 has been out for ages now. Each time the time limit of the technical preview expires they issue an extended date.
Now we have the version 3.5 while version 3.4 is not even commercially available. I am sure that after 31st May they are going to extend the date again.
Nevertheless an excellent browser so far that I have played with it. I am eager for a commercial version primarily because of so many restrictions Access imposes on its technical preview versions for example no support for Flash.
Tried this and it looks promising. Anyone find that it hogs the CPU? The task manager shows it as running at 100% cpu use even when in the background causing other processes to run at a snails pace.
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Tried this and it looks promising. Anyone find that it hogs the CPU? The task manager shows it as running at 100% cpu use even when in the background causing other processes to run at a snails pace.
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I discovered the same thing. You definitely need to close it if you hope to do anything else on the phone.
Seems as if I also have stumbled upon the "CPU hog bug".
The first two times I ran this I didn't see it but then after a while my device turned utterly unresponsive and I had to reboot.
yup my phone barely let me open the task manager to close it and i installed it twice.
also when i went on bestbuy's website it kept refreshing the page constantly. maybe this was because i had flash player 7 installed.
I have to say out of all the browsers I've used this one is incredible! It is the only browser I've used that I can get to my banking website with. Once you get used to how it scrolls around it's as close to Safari that I've found. I'd definitely pay money come May, as long as it was reasonable of course.
As far as a resource hog I close the browser every time I'm done with that site so I haven't noticed that either.
Hey everyone,
What are your thoughts about the new browser?
Have you clicked the "make default" button?
How would you like to try one out on a mobile device?
Hello,
Chrome, by itself, is really good to use, initially i was not comfortable with the idea for google collecting data about my surfing habbits, but further reading suggests that almost all browsers do "call home" its not something that is really special with Chrome and defenitely not what some websites try to portray...
I am sure Google knows enough about my surfing habits without having the google toolbar and chrome installed
dammit, i just want to visit some sites which they won't know about....hmmm...maybe won't know about...
So, no "make default" yet, I'm eagerly trying out the new firefox 3.1 beta...
On the mob, yeah sure, 'cauz my mobile browsing is quite limited...
To make it clear, I, for one, have made the switch... Using Chrome as Default, there are still many areas they need to cover, but my biggest concern at the moment is Bookmarks. Firefox and Opera have great Sync features, Chrome has none. That's a real pain, considering the whole Cloud phylosophy which Google understands all too well..
Downloading is another area...
Being a big Google fan I'm prepared to live with this version, but not sure if it's ready for mainstream.
I imagined Chrome to be updated quite often, but that's not the case at all.
I'm definitely using Chrome full time. I've had to go back to Firefox a couple times for certain plugins (specifically media rippers, to pull FLV files off video sites) but hopefully Chrome will open up to third parties soon.
I think it´s too "Beta" now
Maybe in a couple of years could be a good candidate, but now still too young and limited.
I´ll stick to Opera meantime
Cheers,
I have been using Chrome every now n then but not 'default'. It does look promising but will take time to mature like Firefox 3. Firefox simply rocks.
Aparently they have this policy that everything you upload using google chrome is now considered theirs.. or so I've been told...
I enjoy a certain level of privacy. So....im sticking to FF on the PC (except when IE is required) and Opera on WM6.1+
@Mikeeey: Nope. They resolved that a while ago. They used a general TOS agreement that was pretty blanket and covered a number of services (to save on writing up different legal agreements every time). They forgot that the wording was sort of bad in this particular case and have since changed it. Everything you do under Chrome is yours, as expected.
@Zeezee: What do you mean by privacy? Because they track usage?
I really like Google products, but Chrome just doesn't cut it against FireFox or Maxthon. I've grown very accustomed to certain plug-ins and/or features in FireFox and Maxthon that I just can't part with.
I'm absolutely loving Chrome. So speedy.
Still lacks a couple of things I liked from FF, but I'm not going back.
/defaults it.
Oh - and regarding privacy - I figure Our-Googley-Overlords already know most of my browsing habits, seeing as I use Google to search for everything anyway.
make the switch. it will change your life.
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make the switch. it will change your life.
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Why you say this?
Can you extend your opinion please?
I've always hated FF and was an IE user.
I find Chrome screws up sometimes on streaming videos, but other than that, I use it all the time.
IE7 would crash on me daily, not any more. The ultimate browser for me would be some sort of Chrome-IE8 hybrid.
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@Zeezee: What do you mean by privacy? Because they track usage?
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yeah, google likes to know ppl's business
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yeah, google likes to know ppl's business
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who don't?
Sick of it.
I open a tab for xda-developers and leave it to load, log in, browse for a while, and go away to make a coffee, sort an issue for a colleague, play Teeter, whatever, and I'm logged out.
How can I stop this? I know it's only a small issue, but when it's every time I come to download a file, view a picture, post a comment, it becomes tiresome.
I supose that you always click the "remember me" button right?
Strange issue, I never had that on my Opera browser...
Just enable "remember me" button on your browser, then try again.
Remember me won't work; I don't keep a persistent cache (even for cookies).
I understand why a bank would have a session timeout measured in minutes, but a mobile phone forum? Seems like overkill...!
if you have firefox you could try password manager addons (i use sxipper)
most have autologon features (i think)
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Sick of it.
I open a tab for xda-developers and leave it to load, log in, browse for a while, and go away to make a coffee, sort an issue for a colleague, play Teeter, whatever, and I'm logged out.
How can I stop this? I know it's only a small issue, but when it's every time I come to download a file, view a picture, post a comment, it becomes tiresome.
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I agree with you totally. I've never seen this on any site apart from sites where cash transactions are involved. Why do we have to get auto logged out. It's so annoying
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I agree with you totally. I've never seen this on any site apart from sites where cash transactions are involved. Why do we have to get auto logged out. It's so annoying
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+1 Sooo annoying!
Noob either use cookies or stop QQing
Nothing to do with cookies. I have cookies enabled and get logged out while sitting here on the site. Like the OP said, I open a new tab and look around for a min on another site. Then go back to the xda tab and am frequently logged out. I am using Firefox also. And the fact that this is the only site that it happens on tells me its something on the site, not our settings. I frequent a good number of forums, and it doesn't happen elsewhere.
BUMP! This is still a problem, even when I check "Remember me".
What's the big idea? Why isn't this configurable? Not even 10 minutes and I'm logged out - I can barely make a full post without have to log in twice.
My new habit of copying everything I just wrote to the clipboard before posting, on top of being tedious, really shouldn't be necessary.
Stop using Internet Explorer, update Firefox, enable cookies, don't try to be a security freak using programs like CCcleaner often. Haven't had that problem on my mac with chrome, but I do have it happen on my computer at school, but that's because all of the settings are cleared every time I log off.
I'm thinking that site owners don't care that this behaviour annoys people, which is a shame - as it's profoundly irritating!
Another site I use a lot, which used to leave you logged in, has just started to do this too. Does it save on server load or something?
Didntt ever happen with me, and i use different versions of chrome on various platforms, alongwith firefox, am logged in always
on my dreambox for some reason the user or password has been changed from default and i cant figure it out.
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I'm thinking that site owners don't care that this behaviour annoys people, which is a shame - as it's profoundly irritating!
Another site I use a lot, which used to leave you logged in, has just started to do this too. Does it save on server load or something?
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Yes, it reduces the size of the session table, keeping the site a little faster.
It's a necessary evil unfortunately. Why not allow the single cookie storing session and the "remember me" password hash?
Am pissed off with this too...
I use ie9 and firefox (latest) with default settings. The site logs me off in a few mins.
Never happened to me in the past.. and am a regular user.
I use remember password too but still annoying.
Same problem here on latest chrome. Though it is not so much frequent.
I used a different way to block ads on my laptop using Google Chrome. This works differently from AdBlock. This is a manual way. A bit difficult to grasp hold off though.
So basically using Google Chrome's JavaScript console you take off the bits of code that represent the ads and the ads vanish.
I was wondering whether this could be implemented somehow in an application. This app would run the website. Then you would get a similar version of the Javascript console, you would take off the ads and then the app would let you access the rest of the website.
This could be an amazing add-on for a web browser.
Here's link to a How-to I made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K59MI4e7J3w&context=C364178cADOEgsToPDskKvHDuKcmE4emuZg8UD6I7g
[PLEASE A MOD MOVE THIS TO A DEVELOPMENT FORUM] Sorry, did not realise while posting.
You should do some reading and learn (if you need to) Javascript (and jQuery) and look into writing a Chrome extension that would remove elements from a page with a right-click -> delete type action. Also, with Chrome you can get to the element much quicker. Right-click and do "Inspect element". It opens the dom explorer with the selected element highlighted so you can just right-click it and "delete node". Much quicker than manually scrolling through the dom.
Incidentally, the only problem with doing it manually is that the hidden elements are there next time you visit the site, or if you refresh the page.
Thanks. Im just a 17 year old kid with big dreams
Just working on getting my way around VB and Java. Will try to learn something about jQuery after my prelims end.
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Thanks. Im just a 17 year old kid with big dreams
Just working on getting my way around VB and Java. Will try to learn something about jQuery after my prelims end.
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If you're going to be doing some Java then that would be a good intro for JavaScript, which is a web based scripting language, but it has its origins in the same roots as Java so there are similarities in syntax.
I was an 8 year old kid with big dreams I stuck with them and I've now been working as a professional developer, writing windows software, mobile software and web applications for about 16 years. If it's what you want then stick at it. You're post proves you have the right mix of creativity and curiosity needed to persist with development. I just hope you're good at maths too
thanks it was helpfull
Blocking just the visible page content will never be a 100% proof. There are plenty of javascript ads that generate the content on the fly.
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Blocking just the visible page content will never be a 100% proof. There are plenty of javascript ads that generate the content on the fly.
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So you just hide it once it's generated. There's always ways round it. Just nothing generic.
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I used a different way to block ads on my laptop using Google Chrome. This works differently from AdBlock. This is a manual way. A bit difficult to grasp hold off though.
So basically using Google Chrome's JavaScript console you take off the bits of code that represent the ads and the ads vanish.
I was wondering whether this could be implemented somehow in an application. This app would run the website. Then you would get a similar version of the Javascript console, you would take off the ads and then the app would let you access the rest of the website.
This could be an amazing add-on for a web browser.
Here's link to a How-to I made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K59MI4e7J3w&context=C364178cADOEgsToPDskKvHDuKcmE4emuZg8UD6I7g
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thanks for sharing this with us, this will come in handy
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So you just hide it once it's generated. There's always ways round it. Just nothing generic.
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If you don't mind do it on each page refresh, go for it...dealing with the source is the way to go, not like this.
I personally don't use Chrome, I prefer Firefox and AdBlock there works magic, it works at the root of the ads and also allows block visible parts on the page as well.
Revenue generation
You know you shouldn't really be blocking those ads as it helps pay for these sites, including xdadevelopers. Those ads are the key to keeping these very informative sites free to everyone. If there are certain advertisements that bother you, then I suggest finding something that blocks only certain ads, say just block popups but not the banner types.
I don't mind ads at all on websites like XDA and most others. I was referring to websites that ask you to complete surveys and select ads in order to reveal their content. I was frustrated with the general concept and the limitations that Ad blockers had.
The regular ad is ok, but ad infested websites is what I dislike.
They wish to monetise from the content they have, that is ok. But when people start getting greedy, that becomes a problem.
HP is shutting down WebOS on January 15,I have 2 Touchpads,one is unopened sitting in a draw for 2 years.Should I do anything special before the shutdown?
I only use it as a web browser on wifi when on the road at work,and from day 1,it has been barely adequate,and from day one it has not been functional on many websites,and seems to be more incompatible with other sites as time goes on.Is there any reason to keep WebOS,or should I just convert it to Android...and is there any rush for me to do anything,like any downloads or apps before the 15th?
I don't have any Palm devices,so I have no feelings for the OS at all.All my phones have been Android,don't play around with them much,but root them all.
I didn't have any actual information on the implications of it shutting down but it also piqued my interest so i had a quick search. See the following link ( i can't link yet but it's a https address.
developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/faq.html
It seems most of the useful services will be shut down at the same time (including the app catalog and alarmingly, but not surprisingly, any password recovery). So basically, after the 15th you'll be a bit stuck.
As for whether you should get rid and use android, i think you answered your own question. You only have 1 function and it doesn't perform that to your satisfaction. I would suggest switching to Android, at least you can dual boot and give it a go. I currently use Lolipop on mine. Whilst not as smooth or aesthetically 'nice' as webos, i find it far more functional.
Hope this helps
Well,HP announced at the last second that they were extending the services until March 15.
And hahaha,yes I guess I kind of answered my own question about keeping WebOS versus moving it to Android. and yes,my dissatisfaction of the WebOS browser started the day I turned it on about 2 years ago,and found it would not render the National Weather Service website correctly...apparently not compatible with how most government websites are written.Being in the construction industry,I am hitting up that website a few times a day,to plan out the day,and that site is by far the most useful and accurate.
I guess my next question is...How will this touchpad run on Android,and what limitations or glitches can I anticipate with it as a web browser? I just want to be sure I can install and chase down any problems with my simple and rudimentary skillset.
I can only speak from my own experience, although if you look through this forum sub-section + the ones for a particular ROM you are considering (in the development) it would give you a good idea.
I have used various ROMS (mostly derivatives of Cyanogenmod). It started out a bit shakey, which is understandable, on version 7 but now it is up to 12 and i don't really find i have any day to day issues. The ageing hardware does struggle a bit if you have a load of widgets on the home screens and background apps running but from the sounds of what you want i don't expect an issue. There are also a lot of various different android weather apps that should suit your needs without even having to visit a website.
The installation/removal is fairly straightforward now with step by step guides on doing it. Look at the threads about TPtoolbox. This is a very straightforward tool.
Also if you try it before March you can always revert if you want to.
Live long and prosper WebOs
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