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i have a tilt and love it but is for personal use. i was told by my boss that if i got a blackberry he would pay the service. sooooo, instead of buying one at full price i was wondering if anybody in the u.s. on here had a bb curve for att for sale if so please e-mail me at [email protected]
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i have a tilt and love it but is for personal use. i was told by my boss that if i got a blackberry he would pay the service. sooooo, instead of buying one at full price i was wondering if anybody in the u.s. on here had a bb curve for att for sale if so please e-mail me at [email protected]
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In the future, the proper forum for this is the General section. Some mod will see this sooner or later and move it there.
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eeeeeeeeeeew..u sure u wannna go for a blackberry??
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Why not install the Blackberry software on your Tilt and let your boss pay for the Blackberry service?
he has this stupid i.t. guy and the jackass says it must be a blackberry device, i already brought up the software idea!
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he has this stupid i.t. guy and the jackass says it must be a blackberry device, i already brought up the software idea!
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So tell your boss to buy you a Blackberry device since you already have a better solution and his retarded it guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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So tell your boss to buy you a Blackberry device since you already have a better solution and his retarded it guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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I second that.
To be honest my friend, I had a Blackberry before coming to Tilt...among a million other phones. I had the Curve. You cant get AIM to work, the apps are trash, browser is worse than PIE before scroll fix, the maps didn't work right and sooo much more. You cant record movies, the pics are 2mp, and soo much more.
Thats my 2¢...but if your boss forces you...i suppose you could go with a pearl...its not as crappy as the curve.
ok so does anybody know who has one for sale really cheap
Also, dont forget to repost your req to the forums at http://crackberry.com/
My problem is similar to KD8DNS.
I am about to be given a blackberry to access our company Lotus Notes mail on a Domino server. Our IT department insists that we are bound to use a blackberry device and not the connect software.
Can anyone tell me that if I install the software myself on my TyTn would my IT department be able to know of this?
If you connect to corporate bb server, your IT have to grant access each time you connect a device to the server (whatever real bb device or wm device with bbconnect you use).
Same each time you reinstall the bb client (change rom, hard reset.....)
I had myself to convince them, and finally they accepted, to connect me thru bbconnect. Had given a try to bb device for a couple of months, but impossible to get used to it.
My agency is the same. We are in the market for some type of PDA phone. I've been trying to convince them to go with a Win Mobile device, like the Tilt. They are in love with Blackberry.
I finally got an answer just yesterday as to why. They claim the Win Mobile devices battery usage is inferior to Blackberry devices (Win Mobile eats batteries). As I've never owned a Blackberry, I don't know if this is true...
I know my Tilt can use up a full charge quickly. My BlackJack II seems to do alright, although it doesn't even come close to all the features of the Tilt.
I don't know how to argue against the Blackberry...
you see im a volunteer firefighter, and i had a call to a structure fire, all went well, we put the fire out and so on. well i had my breathing apparatus on and my blackberry in my pocket. for those that dont know, a scba (secondary contained breathing apparatus) is a air tank that you wear like a packback, when i took the scba off the corner of the scba slammed my leg, just so happened that the blackberry was right there, so it cracked the screen shattered the lcd and now im in deep crap with my boss, and not one to be spreading my problems to everyone else, i just had a new baby and really cant afford the full, almost 500.00 that att wants to just walk out with one with no contract, so i figured id post this thread in hopes that someone has a ATT curve that they dont need. Im NOT asking for a freebe just a good price. Im just really glad this didnt happen to my TILT i think i would have gone into a deep state of depression. Thanks guys/gals you all here have been very good people to me.
got to att site
I've gotten several curves off the att site as refurbs as low as 29... have to watch for them. also, enter your business email and you may qualify for premier and get more discounts.
Sorry to hear about the BB. Won't your boss have them all insured anyway?
And how about Ebay for a cheapie?
I've been using the Tilt since late January and have treated the thing like a king....but today it died. The guy at the AT&T corporate store said it was a battery problem...so he replaced it and it worked for like an hour. He now says that the phone is defective.
He is having a new one sent to me and it will be here in 5 days and when I get the new one I don't want it anymore........I will gladly sell the thing for $250 plus shipping. If any of you want a spare or know someone who would like one please let me know. I bought another phone while at the phone store so if nobody buys it from me I'm throwing it in the trash.
Sorry to hear about you problems with the Tilt..... What are you going to replace it with?
Well, that's a completely stupid & ignorant statement.
If you're willing to throw it away, why not donate it to one of those charities that supplies phones to domestic violence victims.
Or to one of the masters of XDA, preferably in another forum to steal away another bright mind to come to Kaiser, or to someone working on porting drivers.
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Well, that's a completely stupid & ignorant statement.
If you're willing to throw it away, why not donate it to one of those charities that supplies phones to domestic violence victims.
Or to one of the masters of XDA, preferably in another forum to steal away another bright mind to come to Kaiser, or to someone working on porting drivers.
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This will be the third Tilt I've received and I'm tired of this poorly designed phone, so think of it this way. Getting a few bucks out of the phone will help me recoup some of the money I've lost, but donating the phone to a charity is idiotic because it's not nice to give something that's essentially broken by design. If I give it to a developer here I'm out even more money on shipping, and I'll never hear the end of it for *donating a defective phone. I'll just be asked why did I bother it's just junk. Making the transfer a financial transaction I can make the other party responsible for their actions by full disclosure.
Did you really setup an XDA account just so you could post your complaints?
liquidsilver said:
Did you really setup an XDA account just so you could post your complaints?
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Nope, read 1st post.
i found website that might help you want to throw away a tilt http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare
after seeing quite a number of posts about dead tilts...often with it being the 2nd, or even 3rd+ tilt that has died...
i'm wondering if perhaps some of these issues are related to voltage regulation.
in other words, maybe the tilts are getting fried due to over/under voltage issues...whether it be from bad a/c at the house, or from the laptop usb port (i know when i plug my tilt into one specific computer i can "feel" the electricity in the buttons...that can't be good)...or from starting the car with the tilt in the cigarette lighter (i wouldn't ever advise that), or just from a faulty charger.
over time any of the above issues could kill any electronic device.
maybe the tilt is just more sensitive to voltage issues than other phones.... and so when one tilt is replaced, the next one dies too...because the same over/under voltage problem is still present. ...just a thought...i haven't experienced any problems with my tilt...yet
...but i have had pieces of electrical equipment die or malfunction due to voltage problems.
casenickles said:
I've been using the Tilt since late January and have treated the thing like a king....but today it died. The guy at the AT&T corporate store said it was a battery problem...so he replaced it and it worked for like an hour. He now says that the phone is defective.
He is having a new one sent to me and it will be here in 5 days and when I get the new one I don't want it anymore........I will gladly sell the thing for $250 plus shipping. If any of you want a spare or know someone who would like one please let me know. I bought another phone while at the phone store so if nobody buys it from me I'm throwing it in the trash.
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When do u take ur trash out?
I'll buy it for $50
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Well, that's a completely stupid & ignorant statement.
If you're willing to throw it away, why not donate it to one of those charities that supplies phones to domestic violence victims.
Or to one of the masters of XDA, preferably in another forum to steal away another bright mind to come to Kaiser, or to someone working on porting drivers.
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Not to mention irresponsible, I don't know how it is where he lives, but here in California anything that plugs in or takes batteries MUST BY LAW be recycled at a proper facility, that stuff can leach all kind of nasties into the environment.
casenickles said:
This will be the third Tilt I've received and I'm tired of this poorly designed phone...
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Just curious... What prompted the first replacement?
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Not to mention irresponsible, I don't know how it is where he lives, but here in California anything that plugs in or takes batteries MUST BY LAW be recycled at a proper facility, that stuff can leach all kind of nasties into the environment.
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I live in Columbus Ohio and I take all my electronics to the local DIY store as they do recycling there and not at the community I live in. Saying I'm going to throw it in the *trash is my way of saying I'm going to get rid of it with other similar junk people don't want anymore.
In fact I must take all my electronics to a recycling place because my community will fine me big time if I take it to the dumpster that they rent.
I'm from MI and they do far less recycling there so when I was a kid basically anything that had lost it's use was *trashed, even if it went to a recycle bin somewhere.
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Just curious... What prompted the first replacement?
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My first Tilt went crazy on me around day 2-3 when it just started to jumble all the characters on the screen and redraw images in random pixelated blocks of ****. So I took it to the store I got it from and they verified that it was a crazy phone and gave a me a new one on the spot.
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after seeing quite a number of posts about dead tilts...often with it being the 2nd, or even 3rd+ tilt that has died...
i'm wondering if perhaps some of these issues are related to voltage regulation.
in other words, maybe the tilts are getting fried due to over/under voltage issues...whether it be from bad a/c at the house, or from the laptop usb port (i know when i plug my tilt into one specific computer i can "feel" the electricity in the buttons...that can't be good)...or from starting the car with the tilt in the cigarette lighter (i wouldn't ever advise that), or just from a faulty charger.
over time any of the above issues could kill any electronic device.
maybe the tilt is just more sensitive to voltage issues than other phones.... and so when one tilt is replaced, the next one dies too...because the same over/under voltage problem is still present. ...just a thought...i haven't experienced any problems with my tilt...yet
...but i have had pieces of electrical equipment die or malfunction due to voltage problems.
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I'd like to think your on to something, but in my case I've tried several different chargers in several different places and even different branded batteries, and still a no go on getting a properly functioning Tilt.
AthenaLod said:
When do u take ur trash out?
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When my surveillance cameras catch trash stalkers giving up and going back to their cardboard box homes. I might have some water repellent spray left I can throw in the trash for ya to weatherize your place.
d00mz said:
I'll buy it for $50
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When you learn to count higher come back to the negotiating table jr.
casenickles, go check ur PM inbox!
Thanks for all the pm's everyone. When I get off work 3pm Eastern I will respond to all of you.
I'll give ya $125 right now.
i know it isint forum material, but you all need to check this out. i ordered one today and its unreal http://www.magicjack.com/1/index.asp
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i know it isint forum material, but you all need to check this out. i ordered one today and its unreal http://www.magicjack.com/1/index.asp
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I heard of this before, as it was advertised on many news channels. I think it's amazing and going to revoutionized (or drastically change) how people make phone calls and save tremendously on their phone bill. It's super cheap for the first year, and can be using on any computer that has a highspeed, broadband internet connection. My brother, (and his pimping ass, lol) already bought two of them.
I have this and this is one of those "you get what you pay for" things...
I found a Kaiser phone at my house after a party I had last weekend. It had a password on it but no sim card in it. I asked around and none of my friends/anyone we know are missing a kaiser, so I guess this one is up for grabs. I did some research on it and it seems to be a really excellent phone, a significant upgrade from my old, old razr, so since no one has claimed it I thought about keeping it.
My question is if I put my sim card into it, is there any way AT&T can track me down and accuse me of stealing it? If so, I may as well just sell it on ebay or craigslist rather than go through the hassle of defending myself over something that was left at my house.
well considering it was left at your house and if you asked everyone there if they lost it and they said no I wouldn't worry about it.
You might want to consider something really radical, taking it to AT&T and let them track down the owner. If it has a SIM card they can determine who is the owner.
GPS my foot!
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I found a Kaiser phone at my house after a party I had last weekend. It had a password on it but no sim card in it.
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And this has what to do with GPS?
Seems strange to say the least - who goes around with a phone with the sim slot empty
I asked around and none of my friends/anyone we know are missing a kaiser...
My question is if I put my sim card into it, is there any way AT&T can track me down and accuse me of stealing it?
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Now you have my attention, my advise is to report it to AT&T and hand it in to the Police. Even if your party guests cant remember losing a Tilt at your place, there's no doubt it does belong to someone and that someone will be missing it. Even if that someone has insurance which covers it, the phone will be locked if an attempt is made to use it (at least thats what they do here in the UK) so it's only worth will be as parts but even then they're not your parts to sell.
Put yourself in the shoes of the person who has 'lost' it. If it's an AT&T contract phone, the IMEI number will enable them to track down the rightful owner very quickly and even if the sticker/markings are defaced, that info is within the phones programming.
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I found a Kaiser phone at my house after a party I had last weekend. It had a password on it but no sim card in it. I asked around and none of my friends/anyone we know are missing a kaiser, so I guess this one is up for grabs. I did some research on it and it seems to be a really excellent phone, a significant upgrade from my old, old razr, so since no one has claimed it I thought about keeping it.
My question is if I put my sim card into it, is there any way AT&T can track me down and accuse me of stealing it? If so, I may as well just sell it on ebay or craigslist rather than go through the hassle of defending myself over something that was left at my house.
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Hmm no offence but this sounds a bit dodgy...why would someone leave a phone which costs around 300 pounds and not try to find it? The first thing I'd do would be to trace back my activities on the day I lost my phone. So you would have me in your house the next day asking if you haven't found it.
True but if it's a kaiser oem and not an actual Tilt, AT&T might not have the info. Taking it to the police is good, also you can put an ad in the paper stating lost PDA but not give what it is to see if real owner calls.
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And this has what to do with GPS?
Seems strange to say the least - who goes around with a phone with the sim slot empty
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Exactly my friend.
Dodgy!!!
I actually found a Sidekick2 at my local Target a few months back just sitting on a shelf in an aisle I was shopping in. I took it up to customer service and turned it in the lady asked me how they would be able to find out who's it was I said call 611 T-Mobile will know.
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I actually found a Sidekick2 at my local Target a few months back just sitting on a shelf in an aisle I was shopping in. I took it up to customer service and turned it in the lady asked me how they would be able to find out who's it was I said call 611 T-Mobile will know.
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Ok but it had a sim card right???
Esteel said:
You might want to consider something really radical, taking it to AT&T and let them track down the owner. If it has a SIM card they can determine who is the owner.
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I live in the United States. The nearest AT&T store is about 50 minutes one way away from my home, which translates to about $30 in gas to just to turn it in. I stated in the original post that it did not have a SIM in it.
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Hmm no offence but this sounds a bit dodgy...why would someone leave a phone which costs around 300 pounds and not try to find it? The first thing I'd do would be to trace back my activities on the day I lost my phone. So you would have me in your house the next day asking if you haven't found it.
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A bit dodgy? I suppose you're implying that you think I stole it. Let me reassure you I did not. It was Saturday night over a week ago, people were drinking, and there were friends of friends who came to the party that my roommates and I didn't know. In an age of dual SIM slots, separate work and personal phones, and college kids who share phones, is it impossible to believe that someone may have swapped the card out and then mistakenly forgot where they lost the phone? It has been over a week and there has been no word from anyone, nor has anyone shown up at my doorstep.
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True but if it's a kaiser oem and not an actual Tilt, AT&T might not have the info. Taking it to the police is good, also you can put an ad in the paper stating lost PDA but not give what it is to see if real owner calls.
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It is an actual Tilt. Says AT&T on the top right corner. Once again let me stress that spending money to find the owner of this phone is out of the question. At the moment I am $28 short of the money I need to buy a ($158, used) book required to do my homework for college. My solution? I'm basically not eating while going into class super early to borrow a classmate's book to do my homework until I can afford to purchase my own.
As I said before, I live in the United States. If I turned it in to the police here, one of two things would happen:
1.) It would sit on a shelf indefinitely and the cops would snicker behind my back as I left.
2.) It would sit on a shelf until a cop decided it would be a nice upgrade for him.
Either way, if I turned it into the police the owner would not get it back. All I want to know is, if I used this as my own phone, would AT&T care/make a big enough deal out of it that it could cause me legal trouble?
We've got a great mystery on our hands.
Sherlock Holmes
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The SIMless Kaiser
The missing SIM card is the greatest mystery. Who would leave their phone behind without the SIM card? Was the SIM door open when you found it? What state was it in? On or off? What applications were open? Does it have an AT&T ROM?
No justification to keep it or sell it from me.
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I live in the United States. The nearest AT&T store is about 50 minutes one way away from my home, which translates to about $30 in gas to just to turn it in.
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Do you think there may be other options to notify a company that deals in communications technology apart from a personal visit?
I stated in the original post that it did not have a SIM in it.
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I stated in my post that it does have an IMEI number though and that does allow it's rightful owner to be traced (along with its serial number, any identifying marks/scratches or even fingerprints if it came down to it). Why have you not responded to my post? You asked for advise and I tried to help.
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1.) It would sit on a shelf indefinitely and the cops would snicker behind my back as I left.
2.) It would sit on a shelf until a cop decided it would be a nice upgrade for him.
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and then
Either way, if I turned it into the police the owner would not get it back
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I think you've been watching to many episodes of The Simpsons. Cheif Wiggum isn't their roll model.
All I want to know is, if I used this as my own phone, would AT&T care/make a big enough deal out of it that it could cause me legal trouble?
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I've already answered that issue so what part of the phone being locked when someone attempts to use it isn't clear? I think you have already decided what you want to do and are now looking for justifications to support that. You're not going to get that from me.
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Do you think there may be other options to notify a company that deals in communications technology apart from a personal visit?
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Well, I decided to take your advice and call AT&T. The representative basically told me I have two options.
1.) Keep the phone.
2.) Pay to ship it to them.
He refused to answer any questions regarding legality of my use of it. At least I know now that AT&T doesn't care. It's another phone sale for them, after all.
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I stated in my post that it does have an IMEI number though and that does allow it's rightful owner to be traced (along with its serial number, any identifying marks/scratches or even fingerprints if it came down to it). Why have you not responded to my post? You asked for advise and I tried to help.
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AT&T apparently isn't interested in tracing the phone back to them. They didn't even ask me for the IMEI.
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You're out of your element, limey. Talk to me when you live in a country whose federal prison system houses over 2,000,000 felons, instead of 70,000. The cops don't give a rat's rainbow ass about lost cell phones when there are real crimes being committed.
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I've already answered that issue so what part of the phone being locked when someone attempts to use it isn't clear? I think you have already decided what you want to do and are now looking for justifications to support that. You're not going to get that from me.
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You haven't answered a goddamn thing. I asked one simple question. Allow me to reiterate and explain. The police here need proper motivation to take something seriously. If I handed a phone in at the police station, they would likely laugh in my face. However, if some whiny moron comes in and reports a phone stolen and continues pressing the issue over and over with them, and then I turn up using it with my SIM card in it, I'm afraid they'll assume I'm guilty of stealing it when I am not. That is why I asked this ONE simple question that not a single person in this thread has answered. The circumstances of my acquisition are completely moot at this point. All I want is an opinion on whether or not my using this Kaiser could result in legal problems.
The only solutions I've been offered are ways to get the phone back to it's rightful owner. This is not the issue. This will not happen. I have already done everything in my power to try to get the phone back to who it belonged to (notice; PAST-TENSE).
Now allow me to once again make this perfectly clear. Does anyone have any experience with UNITED STATES police regarding their dedication to investigating reports of phone theft, and does my use of the phone in any way give them legal grounds to ASSUME that I am the thief and to cause me legal troubles when I did nothing wrong?
Edit: I just realized that you believe that AT&T locks the phone here. They do not. They do not enforce the blacklist, so should I put my SIM card in, I will be able to use it.
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Well, I decided to take your advice and call AT&T. The representative basically told me I have two options.
1.) Keep the phone.
2.) Pay to ship it to them.
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So you're telling us they weren't interested in providing you with a freepost address or sending you a prepaid envelope to send it to them in?
He refused to answer any questions regarding legality of my use of it.
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Why, if he said you could keep it (your words not mine), what would be the point unless it could be used. Somethings not adding up here.
At least I know now that AT&T doesn't care. It's another phone sale for them, after all.
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What makes you come to that conclusion? You say you made one call, are you judging all of AT&T on that basis? What makes you think it's another phone sale for them, the person who 'lost' the phone may well be using another old phone until the contract expires or they may have bought a different phone elsewhere to use on the AT&T network.
AT&T apparently isn't interested in tracing the phone back to them. They didn't even ask me for the IMEI.
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Did they say they're not (apparently) interested in tracking the phone back to them or is it just that they cant tell you who the rightful owner is for data protection reasons - you're jumping to a conclusion there which I think is the wrong one. Did you even offer the IMEI to them? It's a pity we don't have the other persons account of how the phone conversation went because there are lots of things here that don't add up.
You're out of your element, limey.
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Do you think from my forum name that I may not be a 'limey' or does anyone currently residing in the UK automatically 'earn' that title?
The cops don't give a rat's rainbow ass about lost cell phones when there are real crimes being committed.
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Over here in limey land cellphone theft is commonly associated with other forms of crime as well so it'd be an unwise police officer who didn't take any interest in such an expensive phone turning up looking to go back to its rightful owner.
You haven't answered a goddamn thing.
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Not one thing eh or could it be my answers just aren't what you were hoping for?
I asked one simple question.
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I think it's reasonable for people to offer advise based on your question even though it may not directly answer all of your question, after all, most of us here aren't lawyers who are trained to provide legal advise.
If I handed a phone in at the police station, they would likely laugh in my face.
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I seriously doubt that. When I handed in a (quite valuable looking) phone I found left on a train seat to the train companies lost and found dept and reported it to the police a few months ago, there was no laughing in my face at all, not even a little bit. In fact all involved were grateful and from what I gathered in my follow-up, the person later came and claimed their phone back.
However, if some whiny moron comes in and reports a phone stolen and continues pressing the issue over and over with them, and then I turn up using it with my SIM card in it, I'm afraid they'll assume I'm guilty of stealing it when I am not.
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Even though you say YOU didn't steal it, how do you know it's not stolen (by someone else)? I wouldn't give you much of a chance if a case went to court for you having possession of a stolen item and you claimed well I didn't steal it and I'd done everything I reasonably can to try and sort it, without having at least handed it into the Police. Is that the sort of legal advise you wanted or is does that conflict to much with your plan to keep the phone or sell it for gain? As for keeping it, you are right I wasn't aware AT&T don't lock phones reported missing but I am aware networks can tell roughly where a given phone is while being used. If you want me to hold your hand and say there'll be no problems if you keep it or sell it, I'm unwilling to offer that. The fact you repeatedly don't seem willing to accept advise that is offered makes me think this is some kind of leg pulling excercise - if it is, congratulations, you've succeded in pulling my leg.
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So you're telling us they weren't interested in providing you with a freepost address or sending you a prepaid envelope to send it to them in?
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Yes.
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Why, if he said you could keep it (your words not mine), what would be the point unless it could be used. Somethings not adding up here.
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Perhaps it had something to do with the "This call may be monitored for quality assurance" recording before he picked up?
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What makes you come to that conclusion? You say you made one call, are you judging all of AT&T on that basis? What makes you think it's another phone sale for them, the person who 'lost' the phone may well be using another old phone until the contract expires or they may have bought a different phone elsewhere to use on the AT&T network.
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I could tell based on the tone of the representative's voice. He couldn't have cared less whether or not the person got their phone back or even if they bought their next phone from AT&T. However, since their former phone was an AT&T product, it is more likely than not that their next will be as well.
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Did they say they're not (apparently) interested in tracking the phone back to them or is it just that they cant tell you who the rightful owner is for data protection reasons - you're jumping to a conclusion there which I think is the wrong one. Did you even offer the IMEI to them? It's a pity we don't have the other persons account of how the phone conversation went because there are lots of things here that don't add up.
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See above.
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Do you think from my forum name that I may not be a 'limey' or does anyone currently residing in the UK automatically 'earn' that title?
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Automatically earned.
Flying Kiwi said:
Over here in limey land cellphone theft is commonly associated with other forms of crime as well so it'd be an unwise police officer who didn't take any interest in such an expensive phone turning up looking to go back to its rightful owner.
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Your naivety is actually beginning to amuse me.
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Not one thing eh or could it be my answers just aren't what you were hoping for?
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Please read before you type. I only asked one question. What you offered was conjecture and nonsense.
Flying Kiwi said:
1.) I think it's reasonable for people to offer advise based on your question even though it may not directly answer all of your question, after all, 2.) most of us here aren't lawyers who are trained to provide legal advise.
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1.) Redundant. Not interested.
2.) Wasn't asking for professional legal advice. Was asking for opinions based on past experiences.
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I seriously doubt that. When I handed in a (quite valuable looking) phone I found left on a train seat to the train companies lost and found dept and reported it to the police a few months ago, there was no laughing in my face at all, not even a little bit. In fact all involved were grateful and from what I gathered in my follow-up, the person later came and claimed their phone back.
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Haha, once again your naivety amuses me. In America, if you were on fire, most people wouldn't piss on you to put it out (that's a figure of speech, if you couldn't tell. Try to think about what it means.), and would step over your corpse if it meant the slightest personal benefit.
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Even though you say YOU didn't steal it, how do you know it's not stolen (by someone else)? I wouldn't give you much of a chance if a case went to court for you having possession of a stolen item and you claimed well I didn't steal it and I'd done everything I reasonably can to try and sort it, without having at least handed it into the Police. Is that the sort of legal advise you wanted or is does that conflict to much with your plan to keep the phone or sell it for gain? As for keeping it, you are right I wasn't aware AT&T don't lock phones reported missing but I am aware networks can tell roughly where a given phone is while being used. If you want me to hold your hand and say there'll be no problems if you keep it or sell it, I'm unwilling to offer that. The fact you repeatedly don't seem willing to accept advise that is offered makes me think this is some kind of leg pulling excercise - if it is, congratulations, you've succeded in pulling my leg.
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Your English composition is falling apart. In regard to this part of your ridiculous post, I believe I will take your previous advice in that you are clearly quite unqualified to answer any questions regarding the legality of such a subject. Once again I find myself questioning whether you comprehended, or even read my last post. I am not asking for advice. I am asking for opinions and personal experiences that may shed some light on the question I asked.
a gentleman said:
Does anyone have any experience with UNITED STATES police regarding their dedication to investigating reports of phone theft, and does my use of the phone in any way give them legal grounds to ASSUME that I am the thief and to cause me legal troubles when I did nothing wrong?
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Cmon, don't get so upset. You should have known many would frown upon this so let people give their opnion and don't get so upset.
And IMO, do the right thing and be "a gentleman"
good luck whatever direction you happen to choose.
a gentleman said:
In America, if you were on fire, most people wouldn't piss on you to put it out (that's a figure of speech, if you couldn't tell. Try to think about what it means.), and would step over your corpse if it meant the slightest personal benefit.
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Ha! It sounds proposterous, but it's pretty true...I had a good chuckle on this one.
Dude...wether or not you can use the phone is irrelevant cause the law is pretty clear on how you need to treat lost and found property...if caught using it you are as guilty as if you stole it yourself (going by the strict letter of the law)....so the question you need to ask yourself is wether its worth the trouble....the other thing you need to figure out is why would someone leave a phone without a SIM at your house and not claim it...is there a possibility that the phone itself is hot...(previously stolen and conveniently discarded at your place) my advice : too many variables and if's and maybe's just not worth the trouble ....
EDIT :- And yes its possible to track the phone through the IMEI number in the event the original user wants to do it...
I have an unlocked TytnII for sale. It is in great shape but does seem to have the backlight bug. I have always managed it with S2U2. Great for anyone who loves flashing or cooking. I moved on to the touch pro so this needs a new home.
Includes box-wall charger-usb cable-extra battery-wall/usb charger for battery-seidio holster-seidio innocase
Accessories alone are worth it! $200 plus shipping.
Sorry....that is $200US + shipping. I am in Arizona and would prefer shipping to the US as shipping international is cost prohibitive. However if you want to pick up the cost of international shipping we can discuss!
Let me know,
Josh
griffin911
Is there only one country with $
griffin911 said:
$200 plus shipping.
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Would that be 200 New Zealand Dollars? It would help your chances of selling it if you tell us where you are (and complete your forum profile for country/network while you're at it). Different countries have different wall jacks/mains voltages and network types. It's essential info missing off your ad.
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Would that be 200 New Zealand Dollars? It would help your chances of selling it if you tell us where you are (and complete your forum profile for country/network while you're at it). Different countries have different wall jacks/mains voltages and network types. It's essential info missing off your ad.
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Changes made.............I have been properly chastised!
as promised
there you go
liamhere said:
there you go
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Thank you Mod
My Tilt just broke a few days ago, and I sent for a replacement screen. if for some reason I can't get it fixed I'll be looking at a replacement phone within the week. If you don't have it sold by then I may be interested.
Thanks and sorry for having a go at you!
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Changes made.............I have been properly chastised!
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Thanks. It does annoy me when people (any people) assume everyone knows where they are so sorry for having a go at you! This forum would be a better place if everyone filled in their country, network and general region for others to see. If everyone showed that info, we could see just how diverse the XDA-DEV community really is!
asrrin29 said:
My Tilt just broke a few days ago, and I sent for a replacement screen. if for some reason I can't get it fixed I'll be looking at a replacement phone within the week. If you don't have it sold by then I may be interested.
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Asrrin29......let me know!
Luckily for me (and unfortunately for you), 3 hours of work later and three trips to the hardware store for tools I got my Tilt working like brand new. It sure sucks that you have to dissemble the entire damn thing just to get at the screen though, heh. I'll mention your tilt to anyone I know who might be interested, but I'm sorry for getting your hopes up.
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Luckily for me (and unfortunately for you), 3 hours of work later and three trips to the hardware store for tools I got my Tilt working like brand new. It sure sucks that you have to dissemble the entire damn thing just to get at the screen though, heh. I'll mention your tilt to anyone I know who might be interested, but I'm sorry for getting your hopes up.
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Good to hears yours is working...Let me know if you hear anything.
Thanks
You Kaiser has Front camera?, can you upload any picture of it?
jaimebmg said:
You Kaiser has Front camera?, can you upload any picture of it?
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The kaiser also still has a screen protector on that it has had on since day one!
Sold!
Mods feel free to close thread.