I have upgraded my Tytn II with the WM6.1 rom from the HTC site.
Since then I've noticed a couple of hours after a soft reset the pie wheel indicating busy pops up every 5-10 sec. As far as I can tell there is nothing I have installed that should require it to be thinking.
The phone then behaves very sluggishly till I soft reset again.
I thought it was maybe activesync.
I downloaded "MemMaid" so I could see what might be going on and terminate activesync.
Still no joy.
Anyone else able to suggest anything for me to try?
Is your phone a tilt?
Do you have Spb Pocket Plus Installed?
Just wondering if you have Spb pocket plus installed? If so, the problem may very well be just that – Spb Pocket Plus. Change your settings. I think you navigate there by going to Start - Settings - System - Spb Pocket Plus. Under that, you will find the relevant setting(s) to change. Once there, disable the "Refresh icons in today plug-in-when storage card is inserted", under the advanced options. I think this may be causing your headaches. – SOFT RESET AFTER MAKING CHANGES and hopefully, the hourglass will be gone. I used this program once a few months back and the same thing happened to me. My fix was uninstalling the app, but that may not be an option for you.
~Gwen
P.S. Report back here and let me know if this works or not.
P.S.S. Also, try uninstalling those programs you mentioned before you had the issue, ONE BY ONE, followed by soft resets after each one and see if any of those may be the culprit.
Okay, so to those of us who have problems with screen ignoring/being very slow with screen taps and/or buttons, read on.
I flashed ROMeOS ROM and started having problems where I would tap on something, and it would ignore it. I would keep tapping and tapping, but nothing happened. Sometimes, even hardware buttons were ignored, about 40% of the clicks. I never had that problem with Dutty's Diamond ROM or WM6 ROMs. Issue seems to be related to latest 6.1 builds... or so it seemed at the time.
After pulling out half of my hair, reflashing all kinds of ROMs, reflashing to latest HardSPL, etc etc... I almost threw my kaiser at the wall.
First I thought it's TouchFLO, then I thought that it's the latest 6.1 ROMs.. then I thought it's related to 3.56 HardSPL.. well eliminating those factors one by one DID NOT fix the problem. Right now I went 100% to stock ROM (one it came with) and AT&T's original SPL. I started having sound problems (w/e radio I tried did not work) so I flashed Hyperdragon Wm6.1 ROM.
About 90% of the problem is phone ignoring ANY kind of touchscreen taps/drags.
About 10% of the time its the hardware buttons that have the problem - for example I push "call" (or any other softkey) button, and nothing happens, while touchscreen could be working fine at that time. In about 10 seconds, hardware buttons would start working again.
Some information that was gathered from this thread and personal research:
It looks like problem is NOT related to the following:
- POWER. Connecting phone to AC power does not solve the problem. Subjectively, it may improve it a little.
- BLUETOOTH/WIFI. Problem persists with EVERYTHING disabled and phone being in Airplane mode.
- PARTICULAR 6.1 ROM. I had this problem on ANY 6.1 ROM I tested (and I tested all the way from AT&T almost-official WM6.1).. maybe that's why they didn't release it?
- OPERA browser. Some people never had Opera and they still have this problem (please confirm this!).
- SPB/WISBAR interface software. Although having Wisbar stuff does make it a lot worse for me.. and I still have the problem without SPB or WISBAR installed.
- S2U2 screen lock. Still had the problem w/o S2U2 installed.
- iGo 2006 or iGo 8. Many users with this problem never used iGo.
Problem MAY be related to the following (needs more research, please help):
- Original SPL versus HARDSPL 3.XX
- WM6.0 versus WM6.1 (I don't think I had any problems running original AT&T 6.0 ROM, but I did have sound (radio) problems, so had to flash 6.1). Several users report that WM6.0 is immune to this problem.
- A combination of running WM6.1 with latest HardSPL?
- Custom ROM VS Original ROM. Perhaps problem is in the tweaks to the registry.
- Simple things like overtime connection weakening in touchscreen connection to the mainboard. Whoever can open a Kaiser could try to replug/clean it and report back to us.
- Radio version. Should be easy to test, just need to reflash all kinds of older radios and see if problem persists.
Please make sure that you test your phone with some touchscreen intensive games/software a lot for AT LEAST 3-4 days. I had it happen several times where it would be fine after reflash for about a day or so, and then it would come back in full force.
BRICK?
In my case, running HTC WM6.0 ROM with HTC SPL DID NOT fix the problem, I can even say it made it worse. Touchscreen would respond to about 10% of the screen taps. Tap pressure doesn't make any difference.
Also, running AT&T stock shipped ROM with stock shipped radio and SPL did not fix it. I guess at this point, nothing will. Waiting for replacement tilt.
Hope nobody else will get it as bad as I did. All I can say is... make those relfashes count.
Hmm isn't Touch Flo one of the cool things with the Kaiser??? How do you navigate in programs now it's disabeled?
DarkDvr said:
Okay, so to those of us who have problems with screen ignoring/being very slow with screen taps - I think I've found a fix. Here's a little background:
I flashed ROMeOS ROM and started having problems where I would tap on something, and it would ignore it. I would keep tapping and tapping, but nothing happened. Sometimes, even hardware buttons were ignored, about 40% of the clicks. I never had that problem with Dutty's Diamond ROM or WM6 ROMs. Issue seems to be related only to latest 6.1 builds.
After pulling out half of my hair, reflashing all kinds of ROMs, reflashing to latest HardSPL, etc etc... I almost threw my kaiser at the wall.
So if you have similar problems - try using Shnaps' Advanced Config to disable the TouchFLO altogether.
Another thing that I've used is PocketMechanic to clean up the notification queue. After fresh install of HypreDragon (latest as of Aug 5), I had 46 duplicate notifications. Removing those seemed to ease the problem, but NOT fix it. Disabling TouchFLO seemed to finally fix it.
I hope this helps somebody. I'll update this thread if I keep having this problem..
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Thanks for the head's up! I'll definately try that tomorrow (danish time).
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Hmm isn't Touch Flo one of the cool things with the Kaiser??? How do you navigate in programs now it's disabeled?
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Never really caled for it, I use my hardware buttons (D-pad) to scroll, I find TouchFLO to be too unreliable... maybe it's just me, but nothing beats a hardware button which you actually "PUSH".
spip72 said:
Thanks for the head's up! I'll definately try that tomorrow (danish time).
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Do you have the same problem?
Hello,
First off thak you for the post. Ive got two identical Tilts both with the exact same radio/boot/roms. One has this issue and the other doesnt. I will be disabling it on the one havong the issue and report back! Thanks much!!!
I was also having this problem. my biggest complaint was my keyboard was all over the place. Sometimes it wouldnt see key strokes at all, other times one key hit would register as 3 or 4.
Sent a few test messages and This seems to have helped.
THANK YOU!!!
My Kaiser was getting close to being flashed back to a WM6 rom or quite possibly embedded in a wall.
where do you find cab for touchflo? I was looking for that but could not find it.
tamkhanh said:
where do you find cab for touchflo? I was looking for that but could not find it.
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seek and you shall find.
It's all over the place.
Try playing around with the TouchFLO sensitivity options in KaiserTweak
i upgraded to official 6.1 about two weeks ago...
i recently started having the "missed taps" problem...
i have a feeling that KaiserTweak has something to do with the issue...if memory serves, i don't remember experiencing the issue BEFORE i played with the "TouchFLO->Sensitivity" and "TouchFLO->Finger Pressure" options...i just launched KaiserTweak right now and its showing those values as set to defaults where as i could've sworn i changed them to the advised settings a day or two ago approximately when i started experiencing the issue...just a point to clarify, i was only playing around for no particular reason and my taps were not problematic before
i've just changed them to the advised settings and did a soft reset to see if these are the kind of settings that are forgotten after a soft reset...but they stuck...so i'm gonna observe this for a couple of days with the advised settings effective and see if they have reverted to defaults on first sight of the issue...i'll report back here if that happens because that would be a pretty strong correlation...almost enough to prove cause and effect
Well, problem is, last time I've used KaiserTweak was like a year ago, so my touchscreen problems cannot be linked to KaiserTweak. I don't even have it on my tilt.
Also, it's definitelly not a touchscreen itself, since this problem is application-dependent. Once again, S2U2 and Opera are immune to this problem. Windows' build-in apps (file explorer, bottom bar, etc) all suffer from it.
I've noticed this too, but I've found a slightly longer tap seems to make things reliable for me.. Instead of a quick 'jab' if I sort of touch it, it seems to be better.
and keyboard too I've noticed.. I mostly notice it with the hard keys rather than the keyboard, but I don't use the keyboard a lot.
I'll try looking for duplicate notifications, what else will do that besides MemMaid? I might reinstall it, it was handy. I previously found phoneAlarm would grow notifications over time, I suppose I need to watch for that anyway.
khaytsus said:
I've noticed this too, but I've found a slightly longer tap seems to make things reliable for me.. Instead of a quick 'jab' if I sort of touch it, it seems to be better.
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True, if I keep pushing on the screen button, in about 5 seconds it will be clicked. But that's ridiculous, i gotta say.
I'll try looking for duplicate notifications, what else will do that besides MemMaid?
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I use PocketMechanic - good stuff. Has lots of useful functions, including notification queue cleanup and analysis.
Just had another "seizure" - touchscreen would not respond AT ALL for several minutes. No matter what or how I tap - complete ignore.
After couple of minutes it started working again.
Interesting that S2U2 worked fine. Seems that windows just chooses to ignore touchscreen input.
I'm forced to return to WM6.0 ROM...
Please, anybody look into this.. phone is becoming to be unusable - I can't even enter a phone number.
DarkDvr said:
Do you have the same problem?
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Yeah it's really bad here. I've tried all sorts of tricks, including:
Re-install 6.1
Re-install 6.1 with the recent radio update found on the e-club
Install SPL 3.56
Disable HTC today screen
Kaisertweaks - tweaks on and off
Disable radio completely (seems to help, but makes the device useless)
Disable activesync
Disable quickgps
For now, I've done 2 things that seems to help:
- Disable the HTC task manager - improves the responsiveness
- Kill the MSTLI.EXE process - improves on the number of freezes
But I still experience freezes, and it's really getting to me. I need a responsive device, not this c****
ASCIIker said:
i upgraded to official 6.1 about two weeks ago...
i recently started having the "missed taps" problem...
i have a feeling that KaiserTweak has something to do with the issue...if memory serves, i don't remember experiencing the issue BEFORE i played with the "TouchFLO->Sensitivity" and "TouchFLO->Finger Pressure" options...i just launched KaiserTweak right now and its showing those values as set to defaults where as i could've sworn i changed them to the advised settings a day or two ago approximately when i started experiencing the issue...just a point to clarify, i was only playing around for no particular reason and my taps were not problematic before
i've just changed them to the advised settings and did a soft reset to see if these are the kind of settings that are forgotten after a soft reset...but they stuck...so i'm gonna observe this for a couple of days with the advised settings effective and see if they have reverted to defaults on first sight of the issue...i'll report back here if that happens because that would be a pretty strong correlation...almost enough to prove cause and effect
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My device is currently without kaisertweaks, and I still have the freezing issues.
DarkDvr said:
Well, problem is, last time I've used KaiserTweak was like a year ago, so my touchscreen problems cannot be linked to KaiserTweak. I don't even have it on my tilt.
Also, it's definitelly not a touchscreen itself, since this problem is application-dependent. Once again, S2U2 and Opera are immune to this problem. Windows' build-in apps (file explorer, bottom bar, etc) all suffer from it.
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I concur, it is application specific. I tried to run the "Task manager" from Fdcsoft to see if it was related to a process eating up all the CPU. But the problem doesn't occur while the application is focused.
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Never really caled for it, I use my hardware buttons (D-pad) to scroll, I find TouchFLO to be too unreliable... maybe it's just me, but nothing beats a hardware button which you actually "PUSH".
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TouchFlo is way too unreliable to me too.
DarkDvr said:
True, if I keep pushing on the screen button, in about 5 seconds it will be clicked. But that's ridiculous, i gotta say.
I use PocketMechanic - good stuff. Has lots of useful functions, including notification queue cleanup and analysis.
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Oh wow, not a LONG PRESS, literally a 'touch' vs a 'tap'. What you describe would be seriously annoying.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look at it
So, I really needed/wanted a program, like the locking slider for the iphone, for my phone. And eventually, I stumbled across S2U2, I didn't read about any big issues with it, and everyone loved it. So I installed it right away last night on my phone. My phone worked Lag FreeandFlawlesslybefore installing the app. After the installation of the latest VGA version of the app, it worked great and did everything I needed it to do, with hardly any noticeable lag on the phone or anything since installing it. Today, it still worked great, however, I accidentally did a soft reset on my phone, and when it booted back up .... I was getting MAJOR LAG. I tried to close every program and shut down S2U2, but that did absolutely nothing. The memory status in task manager said it was only at about 30-32%, as it normally is with no programs running in the background, but this time, the phone is lagging horrendously. It's so bad, I can't even access my texts messages readily, sometimes they take forever to load when opening one. I knew S2U2 had to be the problem, so I uninstalled it using the add/remove program option in the windows settings folder. After that, I did another soft reset. Great, the program is now gone, however, the same horrible lag is still there. Did the program edit a reg key or something? I'm almost certain the program is the root of this evil. Can someone please help me out? If no one can, I'll try to e-mail the developer, but he'll probably be browsing around on here anyway. Also, I'm sorry if this is not the right place for such a post, my apologies.
P.S- I'm running the latest Verizon Stock ROM, which was released fairly recently, and therefore, this phone is on the Verizon Network.
Thanks,
Chris
I've had my Sprint Touch Diamond pretty much as soon as they came out so in a couple of months it will be 1 year old. I've never really had that many issues until now.....
In the past month I have had to reset (ie return phone back to how it was when originally delivered) my phone 4 times !! And in every instance it's been because Touch Flo refuses to load.....
At first I thought it was because I was installing loads of [email protected] little applications etc, but I think it might be down to Microsoft my phone beta...... Although the program has helped me retrieve pretty much everything I needed to retrieve after each reset, it doesn't take long before it fails to sync and everything seems to go bad again.
Last night I tried un-installing the myphone beta app, and due to how slow everything runs when touch flo refuses to load I had to leave it over night...... By the time i got up in the morning it was un-installed and Touch Flo was running....
I re-booted my phone mid-morning today, and although Touch flo took around 5mins to load it did at least load, albeit with the following message...
cannot load \windows\myphoneruntime.exe which suggests it didn't fully install properly..... Anyway I decided to install a registry editor and see if i could find any rogue entries but I couldn't use the reg editor like i would on Windows XP for instance and so drew a blank.
To try and un-install my phone beta properly, I re-installed it and synced which went without a hitch. Then I rebooted my phone and again Touch Flo does not run.... So I'm almost certain something in this My Phone beta is a problem which is probably why its still in beta....
Just wondered if anyone else had similar problems / Issue's? And also if anyone can give me advice regarding the reg editor......
Thanks in advance....
Never had that problem with the TouchFlo 3D. although it does seem to be a bit slow at times. Have you tried just...blowing your phone, and reloading the stock sprint ROM? maybe just starting over fresh?
Re-instating the stock Sprint ROM is what I've had to do 4 times this month. Not 100% sure why I keep getting the issue back, but it does seem to be Microsft myphone Beta that is a constant link. Maybe I need to reset device 1 last time and manually re-instate contacts etc etc etc
It’s a simple calendar plugin that adds a tab to the TouchFlo 3D interface.
This is not a Cab Installation , so you will have to use transfer the files to your device via Active Sync / Mobile Device Center or using a File Explorer.
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It’s a simple calendar plugin that adds a tab to the TouchFlo 3D interface.
This is not a Cab Installation , so you will have to use transfer the files to your device via Active Sync / Mobile Device Center or using a File Explorer.
rajas
now load touch flo
same problem
I had a similar experience a few days ago. It seems I tried to sync via My Phone beta and then canceled it midway. After a few soft resets and wondering what was going on, I let My Phone sync again completely. After that everything was back up to speed but I uninstalled the beta ASAP. I was pretty happy with it but this is aggravating.
Same problem here!
In addition to this, The antenna shows no service (although service is active and I can make calls) and the phone's GUI is very slow to react to any action.
I have an old Juicy ROM (from last Fall) which I liked very much for its stability. I did install and run the beta application of geocaching.com for windows mobile and now TouchFlo won't start anymore no matter what I do to restart my phone.
I will have to back up everything and reinstall a new ROM hoping that this will fix the problem.
If anyone has an idea on how to fix this, let us know
[update]
The phone could not connect to ActiveSync and thus I was unable to flash a new ROM.
In order to resolve the issue, I cleared the storage (but left the internal storage intact) and rebooted. The phone was just fine after this, but I took the opportunity to install the latest Mighty ROM.
cheers.
Having the same problem with mine.... I had the original Sprint ROM on it when it started happening.
I initially tried a clear/erase everything from the OS (hard reset?) and that didn't help.
I tried updating it with the latest official ROM from Sprint/HTC. No dice.
Funny thing is if I wait like 12+ hours after turning it on, sometimes Touch Flo finally loads.
Other issues ive noticed while its acting like this is, opera crashes on load, active sync connects but wont sync contacts, and the battery life seems about half of what it normally is.
Short of the story is I am having Sprint send me a replacement.
I had the same problem and solved it by flashing mightyrom couldn't connect to activesync either so i had to hold power down volume and reset switch and do the flash from that coloured screen. i think it has something to do with a memory flaw and wipeing everything out solves it.
I've had my Touch Diamond for nearly a year now and I've never really had that many issues until now.....
In the past month I have had to reset (ie return phone back to how it was when originally delivered) my phone 4 times !! And in every instance it's been because Touch Flo refuses to load.....
At first I thought it was because I was installing loads of [email protected] little applications etc, but I think it might be down to Microsoft my phone beta...... Although the program has helped me retrieve pretty much everything I needed to retrieve after each reset, it doesn't take long before it fails to sync and everything seems to go bad again.
Last night I tried un-installing the myphone beta app, and due to how slow everything runs when touch flo refuses to load I had to leave it over night...... By the time i got up in the morning it was un-installed and Touch Flo was running....
I re-booted my phone mid-morning today, and although Touch flo took around 5mins to load it did at least load, albeit with the following message...
cannot load \windows\myphoneruntime.exe which suggests it didn't fully install properly..... Anyway I decided to install a registry editor and see if i could find any rogue entries but I couldn't use the reg editor like i would on Windows XP for instance and so drew a blank.
To try and un-install my phone beta properly, I re-installed it and synced which went without a hitch. Then I rebooted my phone and again Touch Flo does not run.... So I'm almost certain something in this My Phone beta is a problem which is probably why its still in beta....
Just wondered if anyone else had similar problems / Issue's? And also if anyone can give me advice regarding the reg editor......
Thanks in advance....
I had a problem with touch flow not loading, it didn't start up wich caused my phone to refuse to do anything else, after a couple of minutes my screen went black(backlight shut off and phone went into standby) and i could only use soft reset to turn it on again.
I never got around solving it untill i just turned off touch flow in the today screen, installed spb shell 3.0 and now i never have any problems.
So other then tunring off touch flow i don't know what you could do.
I've had to reset my device..... I've failed in all attempts to try and correct it... So after resetting and NOT using Microsoft My Phone Beta to restore all my contacts, photo's, text's etc we'll see how long it lasts this time.