Get Video Off Of The Tilt!!!! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Ok. I recorded some video on my AT&T Tilt with a memory card. It plays fine on my phone. Well I want to get it on my computer. When I tried to, it was in the MP4 format. So I opened it with Quicktime and iTunes and it wouldn't play. It said there was an error. So I was gonna convert it. I tried to, but it gave me a warning saying that it would have no sound, so I didn't do that. Then I downloaded VLC Player and when I played the videos, they didn't have sound. I tried putting them in Windows Media Center, didn't work. I tried ActiveSync. Didn't work. There has to be some possible way to do this. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!

Same thing happens to me. Now I just record in the other format, QIF I believe. And that works fine.

THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!

how did you even get "good" video playback?
how did you even get "good" video on the TILT? is it the change in file type that makes the video better in itself? where do you change it?

You can change to CIF by selecting it from the Capture Settings menu (hit menu when the camera is running) under Resolution. The capture format can be changed from MPEG-4 to H.263 if you go to Advanced > Capture Format.
Recording in a well-lit environment helps. I'm not usually affected by placebo, but I and a few other users have reported increased camera performance after installing the latest test drivers for the Kaiser from htcclassaction.org. It DID seem that the framerate was higher. I can't rule out the possibility that updating to windows mobile 6.1 may have made a difference, but I know I don't keep apps running in the background and the comparison whilst not scientific would be pretty fair.

What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.

VLC will read it

kbcherry said:
What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
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QuickTime will play H.263 encoded files.
The Tilt does not use WMV or MPEG because they do not have formats optimized for mobile devices, so the files end up being huge.

Thanks, that makes sense!

my mp4 videos run fine on wm player! try downloading the vista or xp codec pack which is available on most torrent sites

I know its old but anyway...I record video w/ my kaiser, bluetooth the video over to my laptop, convert with WM convert, open w/ movie maker, edit then post. Sooooooooo easy and no cables required!

You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.

download K lite codec pack: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
it will allow windows media player to play ANYTHING, throw and file at it and it will play

VLC Works for me
VLC works for me, try it

TLJack64 said:
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
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Use a converter to be able to edit the video in windows movie maker, it takes like 10 seconds to convert a MPEG4 to WMV. (i've got the codec pack but in order to edit the video you need to convert it.)

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TCPMP

I installed the player but is there a way to change it to the defaults player for IE so when I go to youtube it doesn't try to load RealPlayer. In the program I looked over all the settings but didn't see one. I also went through and check that it was suppose to handle all file types just to make sure. thanks for any advice
After setting file associations .flv in TCPMP did you soft reset?
Have you installed the flv plugins for TCPMP?
I haven bothered to install RealPlayer on my Kaiser, it is on my Wizard, and I haven't missed it yet. TCPMP works fine for me on Youtube. If you unistall RealPayer does the incorrect file association recover?
Launch TCPMP
Select options, settings, select page.
A pop up allows access to all the settings including File Associations.
(s)He's talking about m.youtube.com loading RP.
Sorry, misunderstood.
I did set all the files assoiciations up. I also did a soft reset. I did install the flv plugins. Because the tilt comes preinstalled with Realplayer it isn't even listed as a program that can be removed.
any more ideas? Thanks for your guys help.
Yesterday I installed TCPMP on my Tytn II. I wanted to see if there was any improvement over the reported jerky playback of .wmv files. Unfortunately it could not read the .wmvs I tried to play and reported that it did not have the right codes. I thought that TCPMP would have the codecs 'out of the box'.
In any case I've just installed and tried Pocket Player but the jerkiness was still there. I increased the cache in the options but to no effect. I would like to try Core Player but can't since they do not offer a trial/demo version from their site.
As I understand the jerkiness of video playback is due to an OS bug and might be resolved with a ROM upgrade from HTC. However has anyone found a temporary/permanent solution?
Well I uninstalled and reinstalled TCPMP and left the defaults setup and it seems to work now.
Do you just get the jerky ness on wmv files? I have't loaded any yet cause I am waiting for my 4gb card in the mail.
I get the jerkiness to some extent also with .mp4 and .3gp files. I'm no expert on audio/vide/codecs etc. I just want to watch videos on long trips.
I've also tried encoding just a single chapter from a DVD and placed this in main memory. Same jerkiness so it's nothing to do with transfer rates from the MicroSD card.
jallenclark said:
I installed the player but is there a way to change it to the defaults player for IE so when I go to youtube it doesn't try to load RealPlayer. In the program I looked over all the settings but didn't see one. I also went through and check that it was suppose to handle all file types just to make sure. thanks for any advice
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Guy go in the file Association area and check mark all the blocks, now your TCPMP/PLAYER will be the DEFAULT player, if this does not work PM me and I will send you the added software you might need!
I used TCPMP and now Core Player, they work very smoothly. I use RAW Framebuffer and encode my media conservatively 320 x 240, 96-128k stereo (it still sounds great even at 96kb) and a video bitrate around 475kb. I have to say it looks very sharp and clear on the 8525 and now my Kaiser
RemE said:
I used TCPMP and now Core Player, they work very smoothly. I use RAW Framebuffer and encode my media conservatively 320 x 240, 96-128k stereo (it still sounds great even at 96kb) and a video bitrate around 475kb. I have to say it looks very sharp and clear on the 8525 and now my Kaiser
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What type of files do you play using TCPMP and/or Core Player, and what app do you use to encode them?
Full length movies usually from my DVD's, or MPEG2 files from Replay DVR and PC Based SageTV, encoded with PDXE to Divx format.

Tilt Video questions

Took some video at a club last night. It's saved on my device as an MP4.
Even though I have it set to record audio as well, I can't seem to get audio to play when I watch the video in windows media player.
Is it possible the audio was recorded, but I just don't have the correct program for it to play properly?
When I copy to my PC via activesync, what program can I use for an MP4 file? Winamp and windows media player will not play the file.
thanks, I realize these are kind of newb questions.
I use Nero Showtime ... for some reason, quicktime will not play these MP4 files ... they may be formated differently.
Thanks. Are there any freeware options for playing these videos?
I wonder if this is related to the video driver issue.
download Videolan or also called VLC. Its an excellent standalone program that does not require any codecs. Its free too.

What video settings work (all rants off please :) )

I think most of the active members are aware of the video difficulties SO please (please, please) turn your rants off for this thread. What I am trying to find is a combination of settings that DO work.
My preferred codec is MP4.
From some suggestions in other threads, I have tried these encoding settings.
Screen resolution: 320x240
Frames Per Second: 30
Kbps: 300
Audio codec: [email protected]
...and I am playing back on TCPMP 0.72RC1 using these settings
Options/Video: Raw FrameBuffer
Options/Video/Dither: Off
Options/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio: Auto
Options/Settings/Advanced/Slow Video Memory: On
Options/Settings/Buffering/Preload at Underrun: 85%
Using this, all I get for video is about 1 frame every 3 seconds. Audio is fine.
So can anyone add this this for getting MP4 to work?
Do I need to use a different codec? If so, I would prefer something other then AVI, since I have a mixed environment. Does anyone have suggestions on the best cross platform Codec, that has work well on the Kaiser?
I'd be interested in this too. I can play back videos taken from the video camera flawlessly but when trying to encode them to the same MP4 codec they can get choppy. Not sure what gives :0
Using WMV here
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
You might want to follow this thread... seams that the Core Player is attacking this known problem for the Tilt. I'm by no means an expert on this, but seems like the Qualcomm QTV technology for the video has some issues:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0
I use PDXE, Lathe, and a few others to encode Divx videos at 320x240 video quality at "28" audio in stereo at 96 or 128k MP3 with a total bitrate under 500k (usually shoot for 475kbps). If the encoder allows it, for portable video I bump the audio volume by 15% and I increase brightness as well. To me most movies look darker on the small screen. If cropping is allowed I crop widescreen content, cutting off some of the sides of the picture to get closer to the 3:4 ratio of PDA screen. I also like to turn the brightness down as much as possible to increase battery life so the bump in brightness helps there as well. An average movie 1:50 length is about 480MB
I've used Core and TCPMP (currently using TCPMP for the youtube capability) and use Rawframe buffer as well. I'm sure that Core 1.2 will make things even better.
I get 30FPS and normal fluid video, looks like my other 8525, hx4700, and Archos 320 and 400 units with crisp clear video, no complaints.
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only the phone???
Flying Kiwi said:
I couldn't get the mp4 output from my ATI Multimedia Centre software to work at all on my TyTN II so I've settled on WMV 9 at 352 x 288 resolution and 372 kbps (thats at 15 fps). Anything with higher bit rate than that seems to cause problems with to much screen tearing during fast movement scenes.
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This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
I have an TiLt and when i try to record videos on my phone in MP4, it appears to work fine and i can play it back on my phone using TCPMP. but when i try to run this on my computer rnning vista it only shows video with no sound.
What can be causing this, is there a way to fix this and has anyone else noticed this..
ps. i hope ths has not been spoken about b4, i hate sounding like a nubie
zulualpha7 said:
This MP4 doesnt play on my pc only onthe phone???
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There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
recorded videos on Tilt not playing on vista with sound!! I GOT IT FIXXX
Flying Kiwi said:
There's lots avout video formats in the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The H.264 (a.k.a. MPEG-4 Part 10 and AVC) Bible
FWIW my mp4s recorded on my TyTN II wont playback on my PC either, it's simply a case of finding a suitable codec.
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Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
if you want an mp4 player on your pc for free, go to nokia.com
zulualpha7 said:
Hey thanx for the reply but VLC is what i got installed and doesnt work, thought someone else had the same issue like mine. The .MP4 files that the TiLT records doesnt playback properly. PROBLEM is : I get the video portion just fine, but no sound. I have the. I tried in Media Player, VLC, QuickTime, RealPlayer, etc.... All the same... video plays but no sound.
I googled the issue and found out some other HTC phone users got it too and a couple solutions i found are.
1. In QuickTime it says: "Error 2041 - Invalid sample description in movie"
Solution: Checked the Apple.com or quicktime forums, if you use quicktime, change the file name from .MP4 to .3GP and it will work, it will not work otherwise. (if you dont know how to rename the files or dont see extension, Windows vista or XP go to tools>folder options>view>uncheck hide file extensions for known file types and voila)
2. Since I did so much reading on this, I got a new player (KMPlayer) that beats vlc in my books it plays the files recorded from the tilt just fine unlike VLC latest build, its fast and does all vlc does but it has a better GUI and plays anything you throw at it. you can get kmplayer here
Conclusion: The TiLt is fine, just that I couldnt get the right player to run the video files it records. apparently there is some issue with the qualcomm processor and the video output files of .MP4, some others have reported issues with any .MP4 files and had to do the same listed above.
Hope this helps someone here...
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MANY THANKS! zulualpha7,
I have had the error 2041 problem for a long time and have never been able to play vids recorded on my TyTn II on my PC.
I almost installed various codec packs as other forum members have done but after reading about potential problems of having multiple codecs for same file type and upsetting the system I decided not to do this.
I have some really important 'once in a lifetime' family moments like my friend's son catching his first fish etc... I though they were all lost for ever.
I just downloaded latest Quicktime and renamed file extensions to ".3gp" like you said and now I can watch everything!!!!
Thank you so much this really has been a big improvement for me.
ONCE AGAIN THIS FORUM ROCKS! Thanks to everyone for so much fantastic helpful info.

Is there any way to get large videos to play @ full speed?

I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
Cawley said:
I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
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Get a Zune.
JimmyMcGee said:
Get a Zune.
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I second that Especially the new Zune is really nice. You can connect via your router to sync your music. I just hate the zune syncing software it's such a pain in the ass. I wish we could sync with WMP. I mean come on seriously.
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
I use CorePlayer (based on TCPMP ) to play my Divx files (700 to 900 Mo each resolution 660*360, datarate 1010kbps) without any specific Mobile transcoding and it plays quite well with the right settings, with some rare glitches (but i guess it will never work flawlessly until we have the real Kaiser drivers).
TCPMP is good, but Coreplayer is faster on the Kaiser from my own experience.
The only down side about Coreplayer (aside from the fact its not freeware) is that it cannot play AC3 sound unlike TCPMP (due to open source licence)
why i dont understand it...when i had my standard att WM 6.0 rom that came with my tilt...i watched avis and mpeg4//divx movies CRYSTAL CLEAR....and thatt was with no htc ca driver or none of that ****. And now ive upgraded to WM 6.1..first duttys hybrid then L26 and now garmins...and each rom has the same problem...old tcpmps crash and when i use the repack tcpmp app and it works....i have SLUGGISH and chopppy fps when i watch avi movies and mpeg stufff. How is this possible with all the new drivers and such....it was crystal clear to watch movies with WM 6.0..but with 6.1 its choppy and ****ty playback? has anybody found a better fix for this other then converting the movies to sccreen resolution?
have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
thanks will give it a shot
antihrist said:
Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
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on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
amkaos said:
on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
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Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
antihrist said:
Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
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i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
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i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
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I use Core Player for videos. Videos converted with XviD4PSP using my settings does not play well in WM player. You can try it with some other settings.
Here are my current settings:
- Format: MP4 iPod 5.0G
- Denoise/Sharpen: Disabled
- Brightness/Contrast: Disabled
- Video encoding: XviD HQ Ultra
- Audio encoding: AAC-LC ABR 128
I don't know what you mean with "bigger vids", but I use it for converting my divx/xvid movies and shows to MP4 and it works well. I think it supports even DVD files, but i didn't try that.
Last time i checked it took 6 minutes to convert some 30 minutes divx show to MP4 (Athlon X2 4000+, 2GB RAM, GeForce 8800GT).
One more thing about Core Player
Core Player with default setup gives me audio out of sync. But you can adjust that in options.
i tried those settings and didn't get a good result
works now i have upgraded coreplayer ... thanks alot
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have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
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this was the first result when I googled it. Follow this link
http://files.filefront.com/PocketDivX+Encoder+0360exe/;9172092;/fileinfo.html
Take care
Rod
hotrod101 said:
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
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I use it also. I watch moives on my phone and it works fine playing full screen and BT stereo.
try the new win 6.1 that att put out for the tilt... it might be more stable since it is the new shipping rom

Play movies on the diamond

I tried to play a movie (.avi file) with windows media player on the diamond but it doesnt work. Which format must the movie have to play with windows media player? Is there other good programs beside coreplayer mobile? I dont want to buy coreplayer, do i have to install a codec on the diamond?
Do i have to convert to a special format, i transfered a movie sample file (.avi) from my computer to the diamonds internal memory but when i try to open the movie with windows media player, it doesnt work, what should i do?
raptorgt said:
I tried to play a movie (.avi file) with windows media player on the diamond but it doesnt work. Which format must the movie have to play with windows media player? Is there other good programs beside coreplayer mobile? I dont want to buy coreplayer, do i have to install a codec on the diamond?
Do i have to convert to a special format, i transfered a movie sample file (.avi) from my computer to the diamonds internal memory but when i try to open the movie with windows media player, it doesnt work, what should i do?
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Try the previous version of Coreplayer, TCPMP. It's freeware.
use TCPMP, theres a speical version of it for WM6.1 devices, plays any file format you throw at it and super smooth with more options than you can shake a stick at!
oh, and its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond
keyz86 said:
use TCPMP, theres a speical version of it for WM6.1 devices, plays any file format you throw at it and super smooth with more options than you can shake a stick at!
oh, and its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond
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Agree. Hands down best media player. Smooth as it gets!
Thanks for your help i will try TCPMP, but should i just transfer the movie to diamond and then open it with TCPMP?
Yes it works now, how do i zoom in with TCPMP to remove the two black lines that are often in movies or do i have to somehow change the resoultion of the movie so it fits the screen?
when you install TCPMP you can set file assosiations so you can just click on the file itself to play, but of corse you can also go the long way around and open TCPMP first
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Yes it works now, how do i zoom in with TCPMP to remove the two black lines that are often in movies or do i have to somehow change the resoultion of the movie so it fits the screen?
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yes, i use ImTOO Mpeg encoder to change resoloutions, i personally find that encoding files to .mpeg at 500 bit rate and 320x240 does a perfect job for me, doesnt take up much space on the internal storage and you dont notice any loss of quality playing it at full screen
i tried the TCPMP player.. although its good and convinent but it still can't play some .flv files downloaded from the internet, and the interface wasn't as perfect/ pretty.
I took on a more hassle approach. Downloaded PSPVC (a freeware that is able to convert most types of movie files into mp4 format) converted my movie files into mp4 format and then play them using the default windows media player 10. Works perfectly!
PlugIn FLV pour TCPMP
try the plug in
plugin-flash-pour-tcpmp_plugin_flash_pour_tcpmp_v0.4.2_.cab_anglais_41514
what bitrate do you use and what rezolution do you use?
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what bitrate do you use and what rezolution do you use?
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i havn't played around with the settings.. i am using the default settings (with the HD** AVC option unchecked).

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