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NewHTC 6.1 ROM : another reason to stop buying HTC !!!

Hello, I just would like to give a feedback of my usage of the last HTC 6.1 ROM.
The good thing :
- HTC Dialer is a lot faster than the 6.0 dialer (Thanks god !!!). But I guess I could use it with the old HTC 6.0 ROM.
The bad things :
- For IGO 8 to work I need to disable the "HTC Home", the "A-GPS" feature, and soft reset my device !!!! That means I won't use IGO 8 anymore, and that was my favorite GPS application.
- SPB Backup does not work anymore
- NO CAMERA IMPROVEMENT : still the same ****, slow and blurry.
- Performance issues with my SDHC card : all read/writes done from the Kaiser to the SDHC card are very very very slow.
- my device freezes all the time !!! I have to wait for 10-20 seconds before I can use it again. EDIT : since I stoped using "Quick Menu" this, problem disapeared ... So another usefull application I can't use anymore !
- performances are lower !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just talk about using the device, the way it displays the menus, the way applications come to the screen, it's really slower than the original HTC 6.0 ROM I had !!!!
So one more time, HTC shows how they deal with their customers :
"don't worry, we will make an update with performances improvements" ...
instead the performances have decreased, absolutly nothing have been improved, and I meet a lot of compatibility problems !!!!!!!
So think twice before installing this f***ing ROM !!!!
How can HTC put on the market such an unfinished/untested product ???!!!!
I just realized they just did the same with the Kaiser ...

Hi,downgrade to wm6 because my pda became crazy !
Same thing : my official microsd card with Nav and Go doesn't work,and the rest too.We must say a big thanks to HTC !!!

Please then, do not use the HTC Rom. We have a lot of Very Good Chefs that will make your problems go away. (If you ask them nicely0

Marcdu81 said:
Hi,downgrade to wm6 because my pda became crazy !
Same thing : my official microsd card with Nav and Go doesn't work,and the rest too.We must say a big thanks to HTC !!!
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Hi,
Did you pull off the microsd before upgrading ?(perhaps the upgrade process
corrupted the card)
Perhaps you could try (trial period) pocket mechanics pro(from wizzcode)
to reformat your sd+scandisk , it is a very reliable soft.
I had a worry to upgrade the official rom with vista, so i had to make the upgrade with a winxp desktop.
For time being, i found an improvement in the sound volume(phone usage)
and my bluetooth earpiece(nearly inaudible before).
Some softs are faster when launching(P.M.Pro for example) and sprite backup
(i upgraded from the light edition to the full one 6.22) works well under wm6.1.
But for the rotation screen when sliding the keyboard, i didnt notice any
progress.(i dont watch movies/videos on my kaiser, so unable to tell if it is better)
The only bad and good thing when upgrading:
i wasnt able to restore all my softs with my backup(some registry bugs)
so i had to reinstall all (tomtom6, sprite,netfront,pocket informant,etc)
boring but it has the advantage to start from fresh install.
One problem, windows mobile center(under vista) has some difficulties to
synchronize my kaiser.(i had to do some "menage" in my outlook 2002 appointments).
regards from France

Marcdu81 said:
Hi,downgrade to wm6 because my pda became crazy !
Same thing : my official microsd card with Nav and Go doesn't work,and the rest too.We must say a big thanks to HTC !!!
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I think that we must all realize that in this day and age of " give me more now" software development we have seen the last, long ago, of the finished, polished , stable software release. Look at Vista and Leopard and the such. Both operating systems were beseiged by bugs and incompatabilities. Vista is getting better but still crap.
We are going to have to get used to getting Beta versions of everything. Yes, HTC makes the bulk of their money off of hardware.As unacceptable as it might seem they are not going to spend millions in R and D and beta testing on upgrades they give away for free. Perhaps if we were willing to pay $100 or $200 or so for a software upgrade, like Vista or Leopard we would get a better finished product, or not. Everyone still got a beta of Vista.
My point is , this is it . We wanted it now. We wanted it free. We got the Beta. We tested it , it sucks ,give them the feed back and push for patches. Unacceptable ? Yes but, like the current gas prices, it is the reality of the situation.

Yes,i remove each time sim card and memory card before flashing.I think i'm not alone to have problems with french update ( cf french forum ) .I've downgraded with wm6 and everything works fine again .

reading through the frustrating experiences makes me feel better. so i am no alone. how absolutely unprofessional of htc. i hope palm comes out with its new OS quickly. my windows mobile adventure is eating up my time.

how can i downgrade again?
i need the original 6.0 Ger rom

Hi,
Sorry for the slight variation on topic, but I just logged into my HTC E-club and could not find the WM6.1 Update, am I looking in the wrong place?
Thanks.

Same issues for me as you folks. I dumped it like the smelly crap it is and reloaded with dutty's hybrid. This one I'm diggin'.Very stable,awesome actually.

dizzy33 said:
Hello, I just would like to give a feedback of my usage of the last HTC 6.1 ROM.
The good thing :
- HTC Dialer is a lot faster than the 6.0 dialer (Thanks god !!!). But I guess I could use it with the old HTC 6.0 ROM.
The bad things :
- For IGO 8 to work I need to disable the "HTC Home", the "A-GPS" feature, and soft reset my device !!!! That means I won't use IGO 8 anymore, and that was my favorite GPS application.
- SPB Backup does not work anymore
- NO CAMERA IMPROVEMENT : still the same ****, slow and blurry.
- Performance issues with my SDHC card : all read/writes done from the Kaiser to the SDHC card are very very very slow.
- my device freezes all the time !!! I have to wait for 10-20 seconds before I can use it again. EDIT : since I stoped using "Quick Menu" this, problem disapeared ... So another usefull application I can't use anymore !
- performances are lower !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just talk about using the device, the way it displays the menus, the way applications come to the screen, it's really slower than the original HTC 6.0 ROM I had !!!!
So one more time, HTC shows how they deal with their customers :
"don't worry, we will make an update with performances improvements" ...
instead the performances have decreased, absolutly nothing have been improved, and I meet a lot of compatibility problems !!!!!!!
So think twice before installing this f***ing ROM !!!!
How can HTC put on the market such an unfinished/untested product ???!!!!
I just realized they just did the same with the Kaiser ...
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it seems most of your issues are compatibility with applications. shouldn't you be complaining to the developers about these? I'm sure they will fix those up to make them run smoothly with 6.1, I don't think it's fair to blame HTC for application incompatibility with a *new* OS.
maybe do an HR and see if you still have issues [except the driver issue because we all know they didn't fix that]
sometimes it's good to wait for apps/devs to catch up before updating to ensure that your apps a working well with your new OS.
just my 2 cents. peace

Guys, a little help please...
I need to downgrade to WM6.0.
Where can I get the official Portuguese ROM for KAISER???
Thanks in advance

here's a fix for the freezes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394839

bnycastro said:
it seems most of your issues are compatibility with applications. shouldn't you be complaining to the developers about these? I'm sure they will fix those up to make them run smoothly with 6.1, I don't think it's fair to blame HTC for application incompatibility with a *new* OS.
maybe do an HR and see if you still have issues [except the driver issue because we all know they didn't fix that]
sometimes it's good to wait for apps/devs to catch up before updating to ensure that your apps a working well with your new OS.
just my 2 cents. peace
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I disagree with what you say. Most of the Windows Mobile 5.0 applications were working on the WM 6.0. I never loosed so many applications (and I didn't try all of them yet) with an update which is not supposed to be a major update (6.0 to 6.1).
My biggest issue is the IGO 8 application which does not work because of an HTC application : HTC Home.
So now, if I want to run IGO 8, I must disable some tabs of HTC Home (contacts, weather, music ...) which were essential to me.
When I bought my Kaiser, I also bought HTC home which I cannot use now.
I also noticed that since I installed 6.1, HTC home does slow down my device and is responsible for some freezes of it. If I remove HTC home from the today screen, no freezes !
So this is definitly an HTC problem !

Firstly, this is not an HTC problem. It is a Windows Mobile (Microsoft) problem.
Every device is different.
What works well on mine, might not work on yours for obvious reasons.
Folks are quick to criticise HTC because they don't know any better or don't understand the problem.
Why "upgrade" to wm 6.1? wm 6.0 works perfectly well.
And btw, Vista is NOT crap. I have been using Vista Business for over a year now without problems. You really just need to figure things out.
Don't fix it if it aint broke.

Guys thanks a lot!! I intended to upgrade to the official ROM, but now I stay with Dutty's.
It saves me a lot of time.

MACkjam said:
Firstly, this is not an HTC problem. It is a Windows Mobile (Microsoft) problem.
Every device is different.
What works well on mine, might not work on yours for obvious reasons.
Folks are quick to criticise HTC because they don't know any better or don't understand the problem.
Why "upgrade" to wm 6.1? wm 6.0 works perfectly well.
And btw, Vista is NOT crap. I have been using Vista Business for over a year now without problems. You really just need to figure things out.
Don't fix it if it aint broke.
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1) "HTC Home" IS an HTC product... And it is the source of a lot of problems in the 6.1 ROM (just read what I wrote).
2) Why upgrading to 6.1 : because HTC said the performances will be increased. And the performances where an issue in 6.0 (and still are in 6.1).

I waited for an upgrade, seems like I got an downgrade. Device with this big price tag should perform well out of the box.
This is what i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395110

allright... I've done downgrading to latest wwe 6.0.
6.1 is a real crap- do not let some ppl fool You- there is no speed gain at all.
what more, it's slower than ever.
simple tests: I have opened a web page in opera mini on both 6.0 (stock t-mob and latest wwe) and 6.1 (stock wwe, plk and leo's diamond v2) and guess what- on 6.0 scrolling is smooth on 6.1 visible screen tearing occurs.
second test was 3 minutes of doom2 e1m1- again, visible and annoying screen tearing on 6.1. no fps gained at all.
the other thing is that 6.1 doesn't support card export II and have many other more or less irritating bugs.
I am seriously considering swapping my Vario III for N95 8GB, but still hesitating. with tweaked 6.0 it is a quite nice machine, qwerty keyboard is a big + aswell... I dunno. I shall see...
anyway- br and good luck to all with their devices.
bro

Just chiming in with my $0.02 worth, that the 6.1 upgrade works fine for me. I'm only running very minimal 3rd party apps (aside from TomTom), so compatibility hasn't been a problem for me.
The RF quality of the phone seems much-improved, I don't notice (without benchmarking tools) a big perceptible speed difference from a user's point of view.

HTC ROM 6.1 : the Kaiser freezes all the time !!!

Hello again, I have this big problem with my Kaiser :
since I installed the last HTC 6.1 ROM update, my device randomly freezes for 10-20 seconds.
I also noticed that my devices sometimes slow down ...
Does anyone else have this problem ?

The solution : Downgrade to WM6 !

I think I've found where the problem is :
since I stopped using "Quick Menu", the Kaiser does not freeze anymore ...
That means this is another usefull application I will have to stop using with the HTC 6.1 ROM !!!

Sorry but I don't know what is Quick menu...

vertpoulpe said:
Sorry but I don't know what is Quick menu...
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If you don't know it, that means you didn't install it on your Kaiser. So your freeze problems were not coming from this application. Sorry ...

The biggest bug i've been with wm6.1 : my kaiser soft reset alone all the time ! Maybe they're drunk when they're built this rom lol ! They should have write : THE MAGIC FUNNY WM6.1 RELEASE WITH GHOST TOUCH !

I disabled Weather tab and contacts tab with HTC home customizer. It seems to work well now. I will see if problem has really gone. Thank you for your help Dizzy. You gave a direction to my searchs

You're welcome ... But I use HTC home mainly for its contact and weather application ... So it's not a solution for me.

I noticed that orange france users had problems. Perhaps it is linked with our SIM CARD...

do you really need to post two threads on this?
I thought about using HTC's rom, but instead, i used dutty's lite rom, and built it up myself with what i wanted. Its a hell of a,lot faster, i wouldnt touch another oem htc rom ever again, they are full of rubbish, and slow as my old wizard

Finally I discovered that the problem didn't come from "Quick Menu", but from "HTC home" !!!!!
HTC home does slown down my Kaiser and is responsible for randoms freezes of it !
If I disable "HTC home" on the today setup screen, then everything is faster (start menu display ...).
I re-installed Quick-menu and now my Kaiser is working fine.
I will have to replace HTC home by a clone application ...

I haven't had any issues with my Kaiser freezing with the 3.28.405.0 WWE ROM, but then I haven't used ROM that was oficially released by HTC. Instead I've been using the one that was leaked out a couple of days before the official release.
Is it possible that the official ROM image is corrupted in some way? I've noticed this post over in the Kaiser ROM Development forum, which was posted today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2234850&postcount=356
grusy said:
Called HTC today.
I'm not the only one having trouble with 6.1. They said in the next two days there will be a "new" version available.
The file we could download now is corrupt and they will upload a non corrupt version. Supposedly the file was corrupt by uploading to ftp server
I think they will release a patched version.
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I've installed the official (English) rom I got from someone in the UK (there is none for TYTN II from Hong Kong being used in the USA as of yet ) and loved the idea that all I had to do is just install ( No hard SPL ) and everything seems fine. I have a lot of apps. installed and everything is fine.

I upgraded to the leaked ROM and have had nothing but Freezing problems !!
I turned off HTC home and this seemed to do the job...for about 12 hours and then wouldnt you know it, its slow again.
I did a hard reset and turned everything off, used Kaiser tweaks to change the cache options and its still not right.
I feel badly let down by this product. I upgraded from a blackberry 8800 which ran like a dream, no problems. I've always been alittle sceptical about Windows Mobile Products. I've owned many PDAs in the past and have always felt that they were always compromised. My Dell Axim X51v was a good PDA but too bulky to carry around. I've always been someone who wasnt bothered by Windows Mobile Devices because of their windows hang ups. Seems I was proved right, though I know this isnt necessarily a Windows thing, more likely a HTC thing....it still doesnt help !
I needed a product that offered, office apps, with internet and the ability to FTP easily at high speeds either over WiFi or 3g. The Vario III had the lot including imense flexability which made me give up my Blackberry (which was a big thing, trust me as I adored my blackberry,,,it was just alittle limited).
After having purchased HTC's almost flagship model I've feel totally let down, they knowingly shipped a product that was flawed and then released a dodgy fix that affectively made the device worse (for some of us!). Freezing all the time. When it wasnt freezing it was a pleasure to use...but seriously, i'm 5 weeks into using it and I'm absolutely pee'd off. I seem to be constantly looking for fixes all the time !! my wife thinks I've become bloody addicted to it, she wont listen when i tell her I'm trying to fix it. it always seems to be in my hand !! (the kaiser that is )
That blackberry of mine is going to be taken out of the box and this paper weight will be used as just that.
gutted man
Ste

You need to remove the HardSPL application from your Kaiser in order to stop the freezes ... Take a look at this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394783
It works ... Guaranteed !

Yes, the HardSPL is your problem, not HTC.

I tried the official htc e-club 6.1 and had lots of freezing issues. It would just freez for 20 seconds or so then start working again. Drove me crazy. I off-loaded it and re-loaded dutty's 6.1 hybrid and am very happy with it. Very stable, no more freezes either. I also reloaded mobile shell and found it to work much better than with the old 6.0. The memory issues, leaks etc. I had with shell on 6.0 seem to have become almost non-existant with this rom. And did I say batt life is heaven . I'm stickin' with what works for now.

I have the problem that Activesync is automatically turned on when I start the phone and it makes alot of problems but when I turn it off it usually solves it - anyone know how to fix this?

cbreze said:
I tried the official htc e-club 6.1 and had lots of freezing issues. It would just freez for 20 seconds or so then start working again. Drove me crazy. I off-loaded it and re-loaded dutty's 6.1 hybrid and am very happy with it. Very stable, no more freezes either. I also reloaded mobile shell and found it to work much better than with the old 6.0. The memory issues, leaks etc. I had with shell on 6.0 seem to have become almost non-existant with this rom. And did I say batt life is heaven . I'm stickin' with what works for now.
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I have the e-club 6.1 and am experiencing the same freezes. Really annoying. I think there is a pattern that when I turn off the phone, the freezes go away.

Foxhunter123 said:
I have the problem that Activesync is automatically turned on when I start the phone and it makes alot of problems but when I turn it off it usually solves it - anyone know how to fix this?
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I had a similar issue where Activesync would start running on my phone every so many minutes, when looking in the task manager it would be running. I fixed that by running task manager v2.8 from Fdcsoft you can download it from here http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm with that go to notification and disable replog.exe (AppRunAfterTimeChange). This does not affect active sync working when connecting to a pc or with push email.

need some guidance on updating my p3600

Hey there guys, i just recently found this forum and i'm loving it!
i found things that i didn't imagined that could be possible with my p3600.
so the thing is, i've a htc p3600 (bought in jan 2007) and quite frankly i like the phone alot. recently i saw a htc diamond with touchflo and everything else and i started to think that i should swap phones...until.......... i discovered xda-developers!!
i would really love to update my p3600 (currently on wm5) to a newer wm...with touchflo if possible.
my native language is portuguese, but if the best rom out there is english i don't mind..i just want this baby looking good
so i saw there are alot of roms avaiable... can you guys give me some advice on which one should i choose?
also, anything that i should be aware of before flashing my rom?
to flash my rom i only have to plug it (usb) and run the file... right?
would love some help.
thanks in advance,

so guys, i digged a bit myself and i ended up upgrading the radio to the latest version and installing "Karmba_a_Diamond_Blue_For_Trinity_v_Last"
i like this rom ... but there are a few bugs on it, for example sometimes when people call me i can't see who's calling (specially if the phone is on energy saver with the screen turned off) ... when it comes back on the screen starts flashing and i cant see who's calling... so my question is, can anyone advice me a sweet rom for me to use?
thanks again,

I am by any standards a complete noob at the whole rom flashing thing but here are the files i used.
[P3600i]_HardSPL_v1.1
HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1
[P3600i]_Radio_v1.56.70.11
and finally rom WM 6.1.0.4.5.0 Home
it all seems to work well with the only prob so far being occasional memory issues when i run Opera or Inturdnet Explorer.
Hope this helps
Smiffy

Any news on your upgrad
Hi,
I have the same prob, i want to upgrade my P3600 from WM5 to 6 or even 6.1, i upgraded the rom on HTC's website which is a waste of time because i am still left with WM5 on the phone, whats the point of that HTC? anyway i would appreciate any help
allan

Tytn II Slow/Hanging for some seconds

Hi everybody, i am new here and i need a little help on my Tytn II
So, i got a tytn II from orange but i was a little bit dissapointed by wm 6.0 which came on the device(slow drivers and so on) and put a wm 6.1 rom with hardspl(RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship)
Science then (and maybe also with 6.0) but i am not shure, i am experiencing some cpu hangs for few second from time to time. Most of the time it's after it returns from Stand By mode. It works fine for a few seconds than PAFF! hangs for a couple of seconds(touchflo not working). it's not the flo because also if i move some cursors with the keys from the phone it is still blocked. After a while it is stable but from time to time still hangs. I am so nervous because i keep pressing the tochflo and nothing happends.
I also tried this manila rom(it is currently installed) L26_KaiserTouch_V1M2D.rar with updates and still the same thing. I have tried to kill all the processes from the memory with celetask but again no feedback. Even turn off the radio by switching to airplane mode. What do you advise me to do? should i switch back to wm 6.0 which i hate? can i find another rom which works? why is the cpu hanging?
Thanks alot. I like the phone, it's cool, but this slowing it's drivin' me nuts!!

plase move this to kaizer general, i dind't see it(or is it a rom prolem?)

Hi!
I also have this problem. It happens with the original 6.0 Rom as well as with the 6.1 Rom from the HTC Website. Sometimes it works for days without an issue. Other days it freezes frequently for a few seconds.
Also, everybody else I know, who have the HTC Kaiser, have this issue.
I noticed that the dimming of screen works even when it is "frozen". Also the on/off button always works. So it is not really freezing but something else is going on?!

BlackICE said:
I also have this problem. It happens with the original 6.0 Rom as well as with the 6.1 Rom from the HTC Website.
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I don't get pausing with the ROM/RADIO/SPL in my sig (HTC not Orange branded) but certainly the UK released HTC WM 6.1 ROM had the pausing bug. The OP is right in that WM 6.0 is slower than 6.1 but the setup I'm running is really very reliable when compared to WM 6.1. If the wrong SPL (or hardSPL in this case) is being used for the version of Windows Mobile (1.xx for WM 6.0 and 3.xx for WM 6.1), this will also exacerbate any pausing. SPL 1.93 was put on my phone by HTC when they reverted from WM 6.1 so if anyone is getting pausing under WM 6.0, maybe that SPL will fix things.

Hi,
I'm having the same problem as described above.
Anyone knows a solution for this?
I'm using WM 6.1 and my phone IS NOT locked at all...
Thanks in advance!
Sam

Sounds like a well known issue with a well known fix. Do you have the right HardSPL?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2261226&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320

Hi,
Thanks for your reply!
I flashed my "HardSPL"...
I hope now it does the trick!
Thanks again!
Sam

Games not working(6.5 Energy ROM 3.0) - rom issue, resolutions issue, or fone issue?

Hello there,
I wonder if you can help me, I have up until now been the user of a HP 614c (running windows mobile 6.5 - used various builds) but recently I have upgraded and got myself a HTC touch pro/ Raphael which I straight away updated to the energy ROM 3.0 (windows 6.5) from the ROM development section, however, for some reason I am finding alot of the games for windows CE that I had working on my HP 614c are not working on the HTC touch pro ..
I find that on starting the game the screen goes blank and sometimes you can hear the music and nothing else?
Is this an issue with compatibilty with the phone, or the rom, is it because of the g sensor? I have no idea ... some of the games work perfectly well but a vast majority of them just blank out which is a shame .
I have looked at all settings and been tinkering for ages and still come to no conclusion, I find it strange as the HTC touch pro has the equivalent specs to the HP 614c but with extra capability ? and the windows 6.5 software I have installed have stemmed from the same pre release builds ??
Any one have any ideas?
Wouldnt normally bother me so much,
but my much loved 'arcade games for adults' didnt run which was the last straw
I am not sure if I can live with out b00by breakout etc hehehe

You can try it...

you are the man! they all work fine now
just out of interest what does that cab file do exactly? wat does it change to enable this to now work ?
I have noticed that there is a clash with the HTC touch flo 3d software tho, but if u take that off the today menu it runs perfectly ... which it didnt do before installign the fix

Explanation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532200