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JAVA midlets don't run on my Kaiser

Hi guys,
I'm very pleased by my Kaiser (bougth from HTC). great features, feels great also, GPS great, communication tools great... The only problem I've run into is JAVA. On my kaiser the java midlets don't run...
I've noticed that once I've downloaded the Mini Opera 4 and tried to run it. The instalation worked as it should but when I've tried to run it all I get is the gif image with the running man (I guess is the midlet loading notification) but after that the application is closing (including the JAVA manager). I've tried other java applications and all are installed ok but I wasn't being able to run them (the same behavior).
I've thought that maybe it's becasue of the JAVA manager so I've installed first the Esmertec Jbed java manager and after that the MIDlet Manager (TAO Intent) but with no better luck... On Esmertec Jbed I get the same behavior as with the default java manager and with MIDlet manager I cannot even install any java midlet.
1) Did anyone had this kind of behaviour or anybody knows what should I do in order to get the JAVA midlets running?
2) becasue the Midlet Manager didn't let me to install any midlets and I've read also on the wiki Midlet Bible that it's worse than Esmertec Jbed I've uninstalled it from "Remove programs" (and it's not there anymore) but it still appears on my Programs list (and if I click on it it opens).
Do you know how can I remove it completly from my kaiser?
Thank you for your time,
Emil

talpic said:
Hi guys,
I'm very pleased by my Kaiser (bougth from HTC). great features, feels great also, GPS great, communication tools great... The only problem I've run into is JAVA. On my kaiser the java midlets don't run...
I've noticed that once I've downloaded the Mini Opera 4 and tried to run it. The instalation worked as it should but when I've tried to run it all I get is the gif image with the running man (I guess is the midlet loading notification) but after that the application is closing (including the JAVA manager). I've tried other java applications and all are installed ok but I wasn't being able to run them (the same behavior).
I've thought that maybe it's becasue of the JAVA manager so I've installed first the Esmertec Jbed java manager and after that the MIDlet Manager (TAO Intent) but with no better luck... On Esmertec Jbed I get the same behavior as with the default java manager and with MIDlet manager I cannot even install any java midlet.
1) Did anyone had this kind of behaviour or anybody knows what should I do in order to get the JAVA midlets running?
2) becasue the Midlet Manager didn't let me to install any midlets and I've read also on the wiki Midlet Bible that it's worse than Esmertec Jbed I've uninstalled it from "Remove programs" (and it's not there anymore) but it still appears on my Programs list (and if I click on it it opens).
Do you know how can I remove it completly from my kaiser?
Thank you for your time,
Emil
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1, welcome to XDA-Devs
2, the reason it doesn't run is also stated in the Bible: you're using a non-Western regional settings.
There're two fixes for your problem:
a, set your reg settings to ANY Western region (including Eastern countries otherwise only using Western alphabet; for example, Estonia)
b, install the just-reviewed 2.1 version of Jbed (it's at the bottom of the MIDlet Bible), it doesn't have this problem (but doesn't support sound). See the UPDATE (11/23/2007).

Thank you Menneisyys.
Yes the encoding was the problem... Now it works
Again thank you.
Regarding the complete removal of the Midlet Manager? It's not on the "Remove program" list anymore but it appears on the Program list and if I click on it it opens.. So it's still installed. Do you know how can I remove it?
Anyway, thank you again for your great help

Ok I've managed to remove the MIDlet Manager for good
I've removed it from \Windows\Startup\Programs, deleted the \Storage\Programs\TAO folder and also I've deleted all the entries in the registry that contains the "tao" word (which was the special word that I didn't know until I've looked again over what MIDlet Manager is).
OK, great forums and great community. Glad to be part of it.
All the best,
Emil

Glad to be able of help

JAVA + Tilt?

In my infinite wisdom, i removed all traces of java when i got my tilt and dont want to do a reset on it due to customization etc. I've not found a need for Java, specifically MIDP2 and JSR 82.
are there any cabs or windows based installers available for download for these? I havent been able to find them yet.

Read the MIDlet Bible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339577
and the guide to 3D java gaming on Windows Mobile:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...ndows Mobile
(both credit to Menneisyys) and you'll find all the answers you'll need.
My suggestion? Use the modified version of Joedek with M3G support (it's around here somewhere, use that search function) for any 3D games and Jbed for non-3D java midlets such as Opera Mini 4. Good luck.

is there a way to lunch a java prog ?

Hi,
I'm looking for a virtual java machine to lunch .jad or jar program...
I've you something to help me ?

I think Opera Mini 4 comes with a Java Launcher, so you can definately get one. But I don't know if you can get it seperately

Look for Esmertec Jbed

http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
there are at least two file that should help you(residoro midlet manager, esmertec java)

What is the "BEST" Java Virtual Machine?

Right now I have Esmertec Jbed Java 20070802.2.1 Installed and IBM MIDP 2.0 version 2.3? I will just mainly be running Opera Mini 4.1 within it.

im sorry, i mean midlet manager

Esmertec Jbed is the best in my opinion.

eJava on X1

Since I was flashing my X1 with jack4.0 Medium.
Thats was pretty good for me but I found that it missing the ejava
Is there any way I can download only the ejava package

what is eJava?
Is it a Java Runtime Environment?

Hannigan174 said:
what is eJava?
Is it a Java Runtime Environment?
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Yes, is the j2me manager for X1, I would know where I can find and install this package

Sorry for late response, but you should get jbed, there are a few different versions on xda, each with pros and cons.
You could try intent or jeodek, but jbed is, in my opinion, the best. You just gotta get a VGA version or regedit the text size.
If I am not mistaken the eJava you refer to is Esmertec Jbed, which is what I am referring to.
Do a search for jbed or jbed VGA and you should find a version you like. If you don't like the one you have you should be able to simply install a diferent version and it will keep all of your listed programs and whatnot.

Hannigan174 said:
Sorry for late response, but you should get jbed, there are a few different versions on xda, each with pros and cons.
You could try intent or jeodek, but jbed is, in my opinion, the best. You just gotta get a VGA version or regedit the text size.
If I am not mistaken the eJava you refer to is Esmertec Jbed, which is what I am referring to.
Do a search for jbed or jbed VGA and you should find a version you like. If you don't like the one you have you should be able to simply install a diferent version and it will keep all of your listed programs and whatnot.
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Thats actually what I want
thx

I think esmertec is better than Jbed. On esmertec i can use approx. 80% java applications, but with Jbed there are rare apps that works.

I'll just throw my random request in here. I have been looking for a WVGA esemertec jbed that installs on the SD. If anyone happens to have one, feel free to share lolz.

matejdro said:
I think esmertec is better than Jbed. On esmertec i can use approx. 80% java applications, but with Jbed there are rare apps that works.
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Esmertec makes jbed...