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I purchased the motorola HS850 a couple of days ago, seems pretty good paired up sraight away.
Problems are as follows.
The BT headset can't be used as a microphone for recording your voice, and/or giving commands to Voice Command software!!! Also i cant work out what pressing the button once quickly when not on the phone does. On normal mobiles you can announce a voice tag and it will dial the number. On the PPC (XDAIIs) it changes the icon of just headphones next to the start menu to headphones with audio coming out. Any ideas what this does? seems to create a connection to the decice, but still does not pick up audio from the BT mic!! One last thing is, on normal mobiles the HS picks up button presses etc, throught the BT speaker. No it doesn't even do that with PPC WM2003SE!!!
So in short the unit is pretty useless apart from answering calls by tapping the button on the headset. Kind of defeats the idea of a Btooth headset. Surely you would want to dial out using its built in mic? Am i just been stupid here, or should any of the above work?
Any workarounds or software that will work with BT Headsets? If not does anyone want to buy this from me for a fair price??? I mean what is the point? Can people tell me there postive uses please, or explain what im doing wrong!!! Surely if a crappy £50 mobile can utilize the features a £250 ppc should be able to, i mean come on!!
Anyone? I'm sure someone out there knows a little more about this than me? Im after some info!!!
I guess the answer is to buy the one designed for the device from O2?
As far as i know from the research i have done, it doesn't matter what h/set you have got!!
Matt
You are unfortunately right that ypu cannot control Microsoft Voice or therefore autodial with ANY headset at present. This is apparently due to the Widcomm Stack implementation (They haven't coded that part yet!).
Most users will also have difficulty with (System) sounds from the IIs presented on the headset. I believe that the new High Quality Stereo Stack has now been implemented but works with only a few headsets.
Where can the new stack be found from? or is it the 3900 stack?
I was led to believe it is in the 3900 stack but there was a CAB file floating around a while back for it (Never tried it myself so can't be of much more help I'm afraid!)
Thanks bebbo, anyone got further information on this problem at all?> I would like to get to the bottom of it, as their are hundreds of these kinda posts around all with no definative answer....Come on lets solve this and put an end to peoples suffering..... (MINE TOO!! )
Anyway, please post any information you know!!
At this time there are NO headsets that provide this function that I am aware of. If you highlight a contact,you can push and hold the headset button until it beeps and it will dial that contact.I was considering switching to the Nokia 9500, but it does not have that function either.
Maybe in the future,but not right now........Later
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Thanks bebbo, anyone got further information on this problem at all?> I would like to get to the bottom of it, as their are hundreds of these kinda posts around all with no definative answer....Come on lets solve this and put an end to peoples suffering..... (MINE TOO!! )
Anyway, please post any information you know!!
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Hi,
Yesterday I have seen an excellent piece of software on my friend’s Nokia phone. It is about to save the conversation.
If you are in the middle of a call or initiating a call, that software prompts you that “Do you want to save the conversation”, [YES/NO]. if "yes" it saves the audio file in the memory card. I am very impressed with it.
Guys do you know whether we have this type of software for our new WM6 device, I am using HTC TYTN II.
Thanks for the help.
Voice call's can't be recorded. Harware Issue !
Resco Audio Recorder
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
mwpeters said:
Not quite correct. The above product works pretty well. Land line calls seem to record better than cell calls. Volume is less from receiver end but still audible. MP.
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Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
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Do you know the software which we need to install in order to record the voice calls.
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
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Doesnt work...
Call recording softwares won't work because the OS doesn't have access to what's being sent to the phone speaker.
I don't know, however, if that would be possible using a wired/BT headset.
good is maybe LIVEPVR
I used program LIVEPVR but only on eten M600+, mio M500 and works ok(when I set microphone correctly).
On Kaiser I will use also but I must again buy this product because upgrade is no free for old user. On handango it's cost only £6.49 .
I used this soft about two year and I record a lot of phone call.
This has been discussed several times before. The only way you can record both parties in a phone call on the Kaiser is to have the phone in speakerphone mode so that the microphone can pick up the sound. This is true with almost all of HTC's PPC phones. One of the few that can do it is the HTC Athena. Buy it if you have plenty of money to burn and are willing to take the risk of becoming the laughing stock of your neighborhood walking around with that brick pressed to your head...
Yup, no flawless recording on the Kaiser, sorry.
Also see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Audio and call recording, answering machines for mor einfo on this subject.
What if you are using a wired/BT headset? Software can control what passes through to the headphones right? Has it been tried already?
Ive never been able to record calls with resco voice recorder on the kaiser either. It works fine on my wizard though. on the kaiser it doesnt even create a call folder while on the wizard I had a call folder with all incoming and outgoing calls.
Not that I need this function, but WOW my old treo 650 that is collecting dust can do this.
updates?
any changes on this?
Yes, there's a solution on it's way...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485783
Anyone else got this issue and is there a new bluetooth stack or something to resolve it?
When I click the answer button on any bluetooth headset (currently using the iqua solar powered one), the sound is temporarily diverted to by mobile before the bluetooth properly picks up, and also during that slugging moment, any ringtone playing is diverted to the caller's earpiece (i.e. sent out by my mic).
One caller complained it had nearly deafened them.
Anyone able to help?
Having the same issue with my parrot bluetooth and my Tilt
Can someone purrlleeeease help with this issue? I am now scared to answer any calls, lest I get shouted at with, "GOD WHAT WAS THAT NOISE? IT NEARLY DEAFENED ME!"
You really haven't give a lot of info here.
I mean what Rom are you running, what BT hardware and reg tweaks do your use etc.
Info is required to be of any assistance.
Note my signature shows exactly what Rom(s) I'm currently using.
Many thanks. Here are my versions:
HTC TyTN II
ROM: 1.0 Sleuth
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Essentially I think a new Bluetooth stack might solve it, but I really wish to avoid losing all data by flashing a new ROM altogether.
A new Bluetooth stack on its own would be wonderful... or a way to restore my data back to a newer ROM. Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
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Would Sprite Backup do that if I use Sleuth's WM6.1 ROM?
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I know the commercial version is supposed to support "Rom Upgrade" support but I'm not sure if that is in the version that is floating around the forums.
What you can do though is make a backup prior to upgrading.
Then upgrade to test if the problem is fixed in one of WM6.1 roms.
Then downgrade and restore your back-up.
Now you will know if there is even a point to expending the effort of trying to extract the BT Stack.
Don't take offense at this next statement but if you put forth that effort it might endear someone more skilled to your cause as you've provided a "Proof of Concept" so to speak.
Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
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Okay I have just upgraded to Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1). Sadly the bluetooth issue remains, despite the new Radio version.
If someone calls, and I answer using the bluetooth headset, for 1 second their audio is output to the speaker of the Kaiser. I believe it is during that second that they also hear the end of the ring tone, which is what deafens them.
An unsatisfactory workaround is to use a quite ringtone or vibrate only, but that is hardly ideal. If anyone knows of any other solution or a bluetooth stack that is a bit snappier when answering via headset, it would be great appreciated
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Same issue here with the same new ROM.
I'm having the same problem. When I push the button on my BT HF it gives a horrible noise to the caller at the other end for a second. In my case I doubt it is ring tone, it doesn't sound anythin like the tone I'm using, it's just like loud crackling or smth.
I can't give you any version numbers cause by TyTN II is sent off to warranty (3rd time already). This time it stopped accepting and making calls while showing 3G symbol. Previously I had band selection on auto and had no problems. Now even after hard reset no calls could be made so off it went again. The first two faults where the speaker and the "Fn" light.
I am having the same problem, the handet is at HTC's repair facility for this and a few nagging issues. I will report what they find.
Mine isn't so much the ringtone it just sounds like a loud static sound. I thought it was the headset but I tried it with 3 different headsets and the Bluethooth in my car and they all have the same problem.
Got my phone back today and I can't say I'm impressed with HTC. First they requested that I send it in the original box then must have thrown it out and sent it in some crap box without enough padding. They didn't even send a note or invoice saying what had been done, which was nothing.
They claim they couldn't find anything wrong and when I called support the guy thought it a joke.
Needless to say it is still deafening and I am pissed.
Same Issue Here... It is almost as if there is a dely in cutting off the WAV/WMA file. Bluetooth Picks up and and both parties get the end of the ring tone.
Had the issued with the origional AT&T rom
Have the issue with Slueth 3.0 and Alex 5.2
If anyone finds a fix please let me know...
I am using PhoneAlarm - Don't know if that is related.
I've had the same complaints from some of my callers, and try to answer between rings as much as possible. The complaints have gone way down. Of course, we shouldn't have to jump thru hoops to answer our phones!
Does anyone have contact info to point HTC to this worrying thread? We need a patch release ASAP. A phone that can't answer calls properly? Yikes.
No issues with my BlueAnt Z9. Have you guys tried different headsets?
I think you may have just been lucky. It is uncommon to A) answer during the ringtone, and B) have the caller complain about the loud noise.
It happens on my Bluetooth earpiece, and Nokia car kit, and JVC car kit. So, it is for HTC to resolve.
I've tried three headsets and it happens on all of them. It happens even when I have the phone on vibrate.
I spent an hour on the phone with HTC support and they are awful, even after telling her that it happens on three different headsets she says that is sounds like a headset issue not an issue with the phone.
When I explained for the third time that I would agree if it happend with one headset but since it happens with all of the headsets it would support my arguement that it is an issue with the phone.
It was like talking to a wall. I wish I had an alternitive to HTC at this point, I love their design and have never had a problem with any of their other phones but this their lack of support is amazing.
I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
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I think its with all HTC phones. Happened with my Dash - Wing and now Tilt.
But I've never had anyone complain about hearing music on their end...I can just hear it on my headset for about 1 sec. I've also had my SMS tone play wile on a call and also my VM tone play while on a call and I've asked them if they heard that and they said no.
I also only use noise cancelling headsets.
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I've never had a problem with any other handset, I've had a Qtek 9100, MDA, O2 Exec, Wing and a Dash.... crap I spent a lot on phones. The only one I've had problems with is the TyTNII.
Same problem here. And sometimes the speaker will very briefly go into speaker mode as I answer! Not good.
Hello. I've been relentlessly searching everywhere for a solution to my plight.
My Diamond touch works fine for the first few incoming and outgoing calls but then all of a sudden there is no incoming or outgoing audio when I make or receive a call. I.E. the call connects but I can't hear the caller and they can't hear me. The phone still rings and caller display still works. Likewise I can still place a call in the normal way. Just no audio in either direction. Soft reset sometimes restores normal operation but sometimes a hard reset is required.
The phone was originally on UK Orange network but is now unlocked and running on UK O2.
I got to grips with flashing quickly enough and I have now tried upteen combinations of roms and radios but nothing seems to help.
Has anyone else had this problem ? Or better still managed to cure it ?
Any help or suggestions would be so so so appreciated.
Oh yeah just in case it's relevent.. The phone seems to work perfectly in every other way. wifi, bluetooth, 3G, gps etc. Battery life is a wee bit pants but I'm not too concerned about that.
Thanks in advance guys !
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Hello. I've been relentlessly searching everywhere for a solution to my plight.
My Diamond touch works fine for the first few incoming and outgoing calls but then all of a sudden there is no incoming or outgoing audio when I make or receive a call. I.E. the call connects but I can't hear the caller and they can't hear me. The phone still rings and caller display still works. Likewise I can still place a call in the normal way. Just no audio in either direction. Soft reset sometimes restores normal operation but sometimes a hard reset is required.
The phone was originally on UK Orange network but is now unlocked and running on UK O2.
I got to grips with flashing quickly enough and I have now tried upteen combinations of roms and radios but nothing seems to help.
Has anyone else had this problem ? Or better still managed to cure it ?
Any help or suggestions would be so so so appreciated.
Oh yeah just in case it's relevent.. The phone seems to work perfectly in every other way. wifi, bluetooth, 3G, gps etc. Battery life is a wee bit pants but I'm not too concerned about that.
Thanks in advance guys !
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M8. I don't think you're on your own on this one. I have the same problem ...or similar. My phone pairs OK but drops the blue tooth connection usually on audio but quite often altogether. Re-pairing is a pain in the A$$. It's definitely a phone issue as I have the older qtek and a nokia that work with my kenwood system without a hitch but pair up the diamond and I'm pulling my hair out after 5 minutes.
I've tried the latest stable radio, setting pin code to 0000 & also turning off security but it still drops connection after an outgoing or incoming call.
Does anyone have a fix for this?
...and jetware 1.3 doesn't solve this either. Installed it the other day and pretty much the same ...audio is fine until a call is terminated and then it drops A2DP but sometimes stays connected on telephone. Other times both drop off!
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In my case it looks like the BT stack on the diamond is not compatible with the Kenwood DNX8220BT stack. I see quotes that HTC implemented their own stack for the Diamond so could someone put me out of my misery and tell me if it's possible to change the stack to something like that on the wizard as that works flawlessly with my Kenwood satnav?
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My phone does that weird thing too where I couldnt hear the other person on line. I have manage to found a quick fix for it tho.
Solution 1: During the call (when you notice you cant hear the other person), press the middle circle button (which will activate the screen if dimmed out), then press the speaker icon. This allows you to continue the conversation on speaker with the other person on line without having to soft/hard reset.
Solution 2 (works sometimes): During the call, reduce the volumn, wait a secnd or two, then raise it again.
Bt3030 - Shb6100/7100
Have the same problem with Philips shb7100 and shb6100. i also have tried the Jabra BT3030.
I used and test them on a Tyten and wizard no problem at all.
I had same problem before...found out is hardware problem...sent to htc care and after tat everything ok.
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In my case it looks like the BT stack on the diamond is not compatible with the Kenwood DNX8220BT stack. I see quotes that HTC implemented their own stack for the Diamond so could someone put me out of my misery and tell me if it's possible to change the stack to something like that on the wizard as that works flawlessly with my Kenwood satnav?
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I have the exact same model (kenwood dnx8220bt and XDA ignito (diamond), same problem where everything is okay but when you go into the contacts menu and try to make a call, BT connection either drops or nothing happens when you try to make the call.... this is a joke.... how can my old HTC P3300 work with it without a problem and this newer Diamond flop like a fish...
any updates or news??
I've the same problem. No Sound after some call or others sounds play. When this happens and if I receive a call the others not listen my voice. This means that when audio disappear, speaker and also microphone not work, like the system can't comunicate with them. The volume control not resolve my problem. I've done HR and with nothing installed in my phone the problem come back again after few minutes. So it's not a problem of third part bad software, but htc orginal software or hardware problem.
Anyone solve it o have idea?
Thanks!
I join the list - having problems with my xcarlink which used to work with my P3300
Tried using A2DP Toggle which helped on the artemis but seems to have NO effect at all on Diamond
The Diamond does connect flawlessly to my jabra earpiece and my Sony ericsson bluetooth speaker
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I had same problem before...found out is hardware problem...sent to htc care and after tat everything ok.
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I have the same problem. Sent my HTC back twice for repair but still no solution. The first time they didn't found the problem, the second time they replaced the speaker.
What did they do with your phone to fix it?
According to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431826 it is a hardware issue. The phone needs to go back to the supplier as it is faulty.
What is the silver button on the original handsfree kit meant to do? when i have an incoming call it wont pick up so, so is there meant to be another function to it or something? thanks
i second that also
this key doesn't answer the incoming call
is there someone else has this problem ?
anyone actally used the handsfree kit?
The wired one? I use mine all the time, answers calls here, and a double press makes it dial last number..
hi, i'am also having the same issues.
the silver button does not pick up calls.
has anyone found a solution for this?
I have the same problem
I live at HK
I have been to the Service Center,
But denied it is the handfree fault but the rom bug..
I argued with them, then changed to a new handfree,
but the problem still there....
Hi everybody,
I'm new here and very grateful for all the brilliant solutions you guys come up with to all sorts of issues with x1.
I have the same problem with my hands-free: the button doesn't work and neither does the microphone. Until now, I've thought of it as a simple matter of replacing the hands-free kit, but now I see the suggestion that this is a Rom bug! Will anyone be able to elaborate a bit on this?
thanks and best regards,
Sune
Really not sure it is real or not that is a rom or software bug,
but sure quite a number of problem of people experienced such problem!
I hope SE not to put a death ear on this issue.
It is really annoying as I quite often used the handfree.
hello everyone
the same problem on my russian x1 handsfree. Have tried to fix it with some patches - no results. Then I've bought Nokia Xpress music handsfree, and it works perfectly (and radio works too).
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VERY SAD, but it doesn't fix the problem. bad quality of X1 jack - thats the problem. Xpress key doesn't answer the incoming call periodically too, but handsfree itself working good all the time
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the same problem on my russian x1 handsfree. Have tried to fix it with some patches - no results. Then I've bought Nokia Xpress music handsfree, and it works perfectly (and radio works too).
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VERY SAD, but it doesn't fix the problem. bad quality of X1 jack - thats the problem. Xpress key doesn't answer the incoming call periodically too, but handsfree itself working good all the time
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The first time i got to know the headphone dosen;t work in answering call, I really feel astonished. It is such a basic function of phone, how can the genius of SE dose not test it. Do them think we will buy another handfree???
Really disappointed of SE.....
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What is the silver button on the original handsfree kit meant to do? when i have an incoming call it wont pick up so, so is there meant to be another function to it or something? thanks
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Hi I'm Chris from Sri lanka,
Yes, I have the same issue! The handsfree seems to work when I remove it and re insert the jack during an incoming call, but not initially! It is very temeperamental and annoying. I also have a problem when I get an another call when I'm already on a call while using the handsfree. The current call goes to speaker phone and the party cannot hear wht I'm saying through my handsfree!
So I am forced to remove the handsfree and talk during such instances! Crazy this, especially since answering phone calls is one of the core functions of a cell phone! what's the point in having all the frills when answering a call is so tedious!
This is very disppointing, especially with such a high price tag to boot!
same case here. im really disappointed...
i guess that if i can when asus glaxy came out i will change mi xperia for that one... this phone is really "buggy"...
Same probleme here unfortunately.. I tried to remove all
additional programs related to dialing and volume,
switched to the new ROM, but no changes. Button on headset
does not work and microphone neither.
I also have same issue, both HK new stock ROM & cook rom also.
i'm form India, had purchased Xperia X1i and using Airtel network. when i connect my hands free and attend one call the moment second call come, automatically my loud speaker gets activated.
is any facing the same problem in Indai or any where else? will any one help me this.
is there any solutions?
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Hi I'm Chris from Sri lanka,
Yes, I have the same issue! The handsfree seems to work when I remove it and re insert the jack during an incoming call, but not initially! It is very temeperamental and annoying. I also have a problem when I get an another call when I'm already on a call while using the handsfree. The current call goes to speaker phone and the party cannot hear wht I'm saying through my handsfree!
So I am forced to remove the handsfree and talk during such instances! Crazy this, especially since answering phone calls is one of the core functions of a cell phone! what's the point in having all the frills when answering a call is so tedious!
This is very disppointing, especially with such a high price tag to boot!
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is there any solution
The handsfree seems to work when I remove it and re insert the jack during an incoming call, but not initially!
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Samething here, and the above works for me too (Remove and re insert), but SE really need to fix this for us.
I believe it's a hardware problem, bad 3.5mm jack!
My right earphone's volume has fallen to one tenth. I have it for less than a month. Good listening but bad manufacturing quality.
Personally I don't think it's bad hardware, I think it's bad firmware/rom.
Currently, with GENERIC UK ROM R2AA010, three presses of headset button dials last number, long press disconnects. Not tried incoming call yet.
I really need to be able to customize this buttons function, especially to activate Voice Command, so that I can make calls, play music etc, without the need for touching the phone. Only then, will I be able to make a button for the handlebars on my motorbike.
Want to use a fully wired system to save on battery power, rather than bluetooth. Also, in all the years of using bluetooth, I have yet to find a combination of handset and headset that work seamlessly.
So far, not impressed with the lack of functionality of this headset, but can see why it works like this. Essentially SE should have included Voice Command, then this hardware/software combination would have been shipped working effectively. I think it is merely a cost saving exercise and SE need to provide a patch and fix in their next rom release.