sms text limit tweak? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

is there is a tweak or a hack where i can adjust the amount of characters on my text messages. whenever i usually message someone its at around 200 and the 160 character limit is ridiculous. Does anybody know how i can tweak to adjust this to something much bigger than the default settings.

Nothing you can do....
The 160 character maximum is a "limitation" of the SMS protocol; the mobile carriers add your number, the destination number, a message ID and other routing information to the message before sending it....
If you type a message that's, say, 350 chars long, the first 160 chars is one message, the next 146 chars is another message (160 less some space used by a sequencing tag for the previous message) and the remaining 44 characters go into a third message.
Life's a *****, but that's just the way it is
Cheers, Mark.

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Incompatible message format

I have an Alpine on O2 (UK) running all the default software and ROMs.
My mother has some old Samsung phone - black & white text only style.
When I send her text messages, she'll often receive several, all of which say "Incompatible message format"... I'm just sending ordinary SMS.
I noticed today when I was typing a message to her, that in the place where it shows how many characters there are and how many messages it will take, it said 155/3 SMS - meaning there are 155 characters and it will take 3 SMS to send it... Why could this be?
Does anyone know what's going on?
it's because you use symbols that are not standart english.
and when you use them in sms they are send not as ordinary text, but in unicode - thats' why there's 70 letters for 1 sms. On my 2020i on eng. keyboard there is symbol ' near spacebar which is not standart so using it turns sms to be send in unicode.
Your mother's phone doesn't support unicode as I see... so try to use standard symbols only - maybe on your keyboard layout there are others not like mine, but you can determine which it is by typing them all and watching when sms letter limit moves from 160 to 70.
Ahh thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I think it's when autocomplete inserts a nonstandard apostrophe in certain words that will be doing it then.
Turned off the autocorrect thing which adds the nonstandard apostrophe, sent some test messages and its all sorted now. Thanks again.

SMS Limit...WTF?

I'm using the stock AT&T rom on my Tilt. I never had that little blue line above the counter that shows how many characters out of 160 I have used in my SMS message. Why did it just pop up now? I've had my phone for months! When I surpass the 160 number, a message pops up that says "Two Messages". How do I turn that thing off. I don't like it. The only thing I did was download and install Skyfire. If I uninstall, do ya think that will help?
It's a limitation of SMS itself. They can only be up to 106 characters.
Wilhelm said:
It's a limitation of SMS itself. They can only be up to 106 characters.
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Correct.
whch is y u c msgs like this
Interestingly, Verizon has worked around this for their customers and if messages exceed 160 characters, even though it actually flies through the air as more than one message, both phones view it as one message. The limit has always been 160 characters. Both phones have to be Verizon.
That makes it $0.00125 (eighth of a cent) per letter for the rest of us.
It's a limitation of cell phones and the capabilities of SMS. I have sent and received 1000+ character SMS messages on my Kaiser. I have sent the same. They display as one message, but are sent as six or seven. The phone just reassembles them.
Old/cheap phones usually end up receiving six seperate messages and receiving six seperate messages.
Does AT&T (or others) charge for just the one message or the actual six or seven that get sent over the airwaves?
They charge for each of the 6-7 messages. That's why the phone display how many it will use, so you can know what you're up to.

SMS 160 Character Increase?

With the new lineup of full keyboard phone, texting 160 characters if pretty easy to do, especially when your friends don't like to talk on the phone and strictly text. Has anybody found a registry hack to allow more than 160 characters? For instance, the woman has sent numerous texts to me and she has AT&T as do i, and there has been messages she sends that are well over 500 characters on her Pantech and it allows it.
phones already do this
you can send larger txts but your carrier charges you one text per 160 characters.
or you could use email
I have unlimited text so it really doesn't matter to me how many text messages I have in a month. Anybody?
bratch15 said:
I have unlimited text so it really doesn't matter to me how many text messages I have in a month. Anybody?
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Just keep typing then - the messages get sent in 160 character blocks, and re-assembled into one big message by the recipient's phone.
Cheers,
Steve.
I guess what I'm asking is that when you go over 160 characters the phone splits the messages into two or however many messages. I've seen my woman type in messages that are well over 500 characters and when sent it shows up as one long message on her phone and on mine. Is there a way to increase the 160 character cut off so I can keep typing and send to other phones and they will see one long message? I'm sure shes getting charged for a couple message but the actually reading the message shows up as one long message.
Alright, thanks. Did not know that it does that so I end up erasing sentences and sending multiple messages. Sucks especially when you're fighting and trying to get a point across but now I know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/smile.gif Well if you send your message n the form of an MMS then you'll have 1000 letters you can use. And if there's no media n the message then' you might b able to send a longer message!!!!http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Hope that's helps your problem.. That's how I send a long message so it doesn't get broken up n2 separate message's.
I think its built into threading
I've seen my woman type in messages that are well over 500 characters and when sent it shows up as one long message on her phone and on mine.
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It happens when I text from my phone to anyone who has threading support for a windows mobile 6.1 phone
If you type above 160 characters in a regular SMS the person receiving it will get it as one message if they have a phone that supports it. If someone sends me a text with a Moto razr it will be split into 160 character messages instead of one long one
As Bajanman mms messages can hold more letters because it is data related unlike text messaging which rely on a back channel for cellular networks which costs the company 0 dollars to send as long as it is exactly 160 characters haha how ironic they charge us for something that was discovered to be free to the cell phone companies. Thank god for those unlimited texting plans that include the mms messages.

Doesn't send more than 160 characters by sms

If the text message I send exceeds 160 characters, it throws "Your text message cannot be sent" and send only the first 160 characters. But I am able to receive text messages more than 160 characters.
I tried hard reset still the same. Please help !!!
An sms is by definition 160 characters or less
That rather abitrary number was decided on when that tech was new. They didn't see anyone needing more. That being said, I can still write a message that is longer, but it gets sent in multiples sms's. I'm with at&t and even when I had the stock rom, this was possible. The problem could be a restriction set in your ROM, or by your carrier.
Is this a new issue, or one that has always been there?
I started using this phone recently so I can't tell. But I understand that this is something to do with EMS changes in the registry.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa919404.aspx
jameybond said:
If the text message I send exceeds 160 characters, it throws "Your text message cannot be sent" and send only the first 160 characters. But I am able to receive text messages more than 160 characters.
I tried hard reset still the same. Please help !!!
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try this:
in Messaging select TOOLS-->OPTIONS-->Tap text Messages.
uncheck the Use unicode when neccesary
thank you. you help me too
crissg said:
That rather abitrary number was decided on when that tech was new. They didn't see anyone needing more.
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That number was not aritrary. It was the amount of unused space that was available in the control channel packets. Someone decided that space could be used to send short messages in the control channel packets and would result in no extra overhead in the amount of data being sent and received. They may or may not have "saw" needing more but it didn't really matter since that's all that's available in each packet.
However, "concatinated SMS" does allow for a larger packet by sending multiple SMS messages, each with a sequence number. The phone receives each SMS message and put them back in the order according to the sequence number. Phones that don't handle concatinated SMS simply display the individual messages as seperate ones.
i still have the same problem, does any one know how to solve that problem ???

[Q] BUG in SMS

This bug is with the SMS application, when you start typing a message to a recipient.
Indeed, if you position your eyes at the count (which tells you the length of a text) it shows occasionally (3 out of 4) a limit of 70 characters before starting the second SMS, while the standard is 160 character per SMS!
If there was it. But here, we are left to spend 2 to 3 SMS having added only 3 characters! Sometimes the problem is resolved by removing one or two word, the count return to a standard size. But the rub is that the phone sends 4 SMS actually whene they are only 270 characters. Infuriating, especially when one does not have unlimited option.
Note that I not sending special character.
Do you have the same issue than I ?
Edit: okay sorry for my bad english

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