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Upgrade then backup question..C'MON PEOPLE I NEED YOUR HELP!

Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...

Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:

HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners

Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!

I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.

That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom

Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.

Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ

Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!

sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!

My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ

i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!

vincexda said:
(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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In Call Volume issues...

Hi, this is my first time posting on this forum but I have nowhere else to go! I have had an XDA mini now for a few months and it has got to a stage now where I can only hear the other caller by using a bluetooth headset.
My question is would a new ROM affect this, is it the O2 ROM particularly bad? I am wary of flashing the ROM and want to know if a fresh one would make any difference at all.
I have also read up about Radio ROMS, can I just replace this?
Sorry for all the questions, I hope you guys can help!

Welcome to XDA-Developers.
If your in call volume has gotten steadily worse over time, it may be a hardware issue. Before you go trying to flash a new ROM you may want to try backing up your personal data and then doing a hard reset first and see if that solves the problem. If it doesn't then flashing a new ROM probably won't help much either.
If you do decide to try flashing a new ROM then make sure you read and re-read the posts on CID unlocking first and make sure you know what you're doing because doing it wrong can turn it in to a nice expensive shiny brick.
You asked if you can replace Radio ROM's, the answer to that is yes. There are plenty of them around here that you can try out. You might try changing to a different radio ROM first before trying a hard reset, but since you said it's been getting steadily worse I'm thinking that it's probably not your problem. I could be wrong about that though.

Thanks for the reply!
I wouldnt say 'steadily worse' but when I got it it was ok and kept going from normal to whisper quiet, like it was a problem with the signal, now its stuck at whisper quiet. I have done many a hard reset and this worked first time around, but then the cycle repeated itself. Now a hard reset does nothing.
Could it be a speaker connection? Also friends have reported that although I can hear them properly on handsfree (built in), they cannot hear my voice very clearly. Seems an odd combo to me....but hey what do I know!
Could you recommend a radio rom or is it a case of trial and error?

Radio ROMs are kind of a trial and error thing, what works for one person in one area might not work so well for someone else in another. It depends on who your carrier is and where you're located. Try 2.19.11 first, it seems to be the one that works for the most people. If that one doesn't work well, try 2.47 and/or 2.69 next as they seem to be the next runners up.

awesome! will give it a go and let you know!
Thanks again!

sorry to be a pain! but where do I get the rom from?

SpecialAgentCooper said:
sorry to be a pain! but where do I get the rom from?
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From this forum. Make a search

didn't see that link! Cheers!!

didn't see that link! Cheers!!

I am gonna sound like a complete muppet now but how do i install a radio rom. To complicate things more I am a mac user, but have an intel mac so can run windws stuff if necessary.
Sorry to hassle but im not much good at this stuff!

I don't know anything about mac's, but if you can run windows programs like you said, connect your phone to your sync cable and then run the ROMUpdateUtility that is included in the zip file and just follow the instructions. It's easy, and since I'm guessing that you haven't done this kind of thing before, when the rom update utility runs it will tell you that you will lose all your information on your phone. You can ignore that, you won't lose anything. The same utility is used for installing entire ROMs in which case you would lose everything, but not when just updating a Radio ROM.

thanks for the info. Downloaded the radio Rom suggested, ran the utility but it tells me it cannot update and to get a newer version of the update utility. I have looked into this and it seems my Wizard is a G4 model, is there an update utility for this? if so where can I find it!
Thanks in advance!

dont worry found it on the G4 forum! Installed it and I can hear again! Never thought I would get it fixed! Thanks for all our help! It is no longer in danger of flying against the nearest wall!

HTC TyTn 2 - Some Info on GUI for Newbie

Hi,
I have a HTC TyTn 2. Its on orange, and the details of it are:
ROM Version: 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio Version: 1.27.14.32
Windows Mobile 6 Proffessional
I find it really boring and am looking for something to spice up the GUI.
I seen software on here called Cube. I was wondering if it actually works, and if there are any implications or lost functions related to installing it.
This is my first post, so i dont really have a clue what it is.
Also my phone is a works phone so it needs to be stable and retain all the Origigal functions.
Can anyone suggest anything??
Thanks
Gaz

There are some versions of the original "cube" as produced by HTC, which can be re-used on various devices for which it wasn't designed.
However, a number of our fellow members have written good or better 3rd party imitations of the cube launcher - try searching for cube and having a look at some of those ones.
IMHO the cube only has limited function, and you can do better with a well configured "Today" screen. There are hundreds of threads on modifying your today screen, and many screenshots for insipiration. Have a look at some of those.
At the end of the day, if you mess up your phone software wise, you can always "hard reset" which will reset to factory conditions, wiping all of your dodgy software off.
V

gaz_0001 said:
Hi,
I have a HTC TyTn 2. ...snip... Can anyone suggest anything??
Thanks
Gaz
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I notice that this is your first post. A friend of mine once said the enemy of "good" is "better".
It is important to remember that you are about to consider messing with an expensive "phone". It is possible to make it (read the MANY threads here) work less like a phone than you might want.
If you did that (messed up) to your phone - how upset would you be...can you be without it for a couple of days while you sort things out?
Make sure that you read the WIKI/STICKYs at the top of the messsage board. It is interesting reading acually. If you have a hard time with them you need to leave your phone alone. If you understand what they are saying, then considering a change to your phone might not be too difficult.
Bill

whk said:
I notice that this is your first post. A friend of mine once said the enemy of "good" is "better".
It is important to remember that you are about to consider messing with an expensive "phone". It is possible to make it (read the MANY threads here) work less like a phone than you might want.
If you did that (messed up) to your phone - how upset would you be...can you be without it for a couple of days while you sort things out?
Make sure that you read the WIKI/STICKYs at the top of the messsage board. It is interesting reading acually. If you have a hard time with them you need to leave your phone alone. If you understand what they are saying, then considering a change to your phone might not be too difficult.
Bill
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Jeez Bill , I'm afraid to even press a button on my phone now.
Seriously, look at this page, there is nothing on this page that can't be undone. You will learn a lot and your phone will be "kwel "
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_software_recs

denco7 said:
Jeez Bill , I'm afraid to even press a button on my phone now.
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Yeah - I realized that I made it sound scary - but I wanted to convey (since it was specified that this is a work phone and has to maintain the original stuff...) that there was some risk - that reading was required and should be done before jumping off and trying things and then having the phone not available.
But - honestly - if what I said "scares" you - you probably ought not be messing with your "work phone" - don't you think?
Bill

I want to add
2008-04-29 Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
to my phone.
My question is do i need to upgrade to WM 6.1 first, or does this do it for me??
Do i need to do a sim unlock first??
Do i need to CID unlock first??
Ive done the reading of the wiki's but im not too sure!
Please help

Then you haven't read the wikis all the way through..
Also if that is a work phone I wouldn't flash any rom on it. (which duttys is a rom)

gaz_0001 said:
I want to add
2008-04-29 Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
to my phone.
My question is do i need to upgrade to WM 6.1 first, or does this do it for me??
Do i need to do a sim unlock first??
Do i need to CID unlock first??
Ive done the reading of the wiki's but im not too sure!
Please help
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Yes you will need to do all of the above, but TBH if you are after retaining all of the orignial functions of the phone then a flashed ROM is about as far away from that as you can be. It adds a lot of extras in removes a lot of bloatware etc. To answer your question yes when you flash a ROM it will auto upgrade you to WM6.1
EDIT: Beat me to the puch there Chumley

mmmn.
May be you guys are right, leave the thing alone. Its just so boring though.
It is a works phone. I have to use it to access corporate network internet pages, and to telnet into certain systems. Also they are supposed to be able to track us from them via the GPS inside.
Do you think changing the ROM would be a bit dodgy???
Are there any other options to make it a bit more fancier, the thing is so dull, but Duttys Rom looks cool.

gaz_0001 said:
mmmn.
May be you guys are right, leave the thing alone. Its just so boring though.
It is a works phone. I have to use it to access corporate network internet pages, and to telnet into certain systems. Also they are supposed to be able to track us from them via the GPS inside.
Do you think changing the ROM would be a bit dodgy???
Are there any other options to make it a bit more fancier, the thing is so dull, but Duttys Rom looks cool.
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Again , Look at the page I told you about in the fourth post. Home plugin, HTC Home Customizer, Point UI , Spb Mobile Shell. These are all window dressing and will not effect the function of your phone like a rom switch ( good and bad ) will Look here for inspiration
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336013

if you are just after the "dutty look" then there is no need to flash a whole rom just to achieve that "look". you can just change you theme, install apps, change the skins etc, and you phone will look way cooler, in fact you may even become more attractive to the opposite sex

Cheers,
Just put the Slither C++ Cube thing on. Its sweet.
XtreMe_G - no new women yet... maybe it needs 24 hrs to kick in.... we'll see.

Sound Completely Gone (Please Help!)

Yesterday I flashed my Tilt and installed the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.03.405.0 ROM. Everything was working just fine. My fiancee liked the new layout and functionality, so I flashed her phone tonight, with the same ROM and everything.
However, from the moment she called my phone from hers to test the new ROM, neither of our phones has played any sound whatsoever. No ringtones, no media files, we can't even here or talk to other people when we make calls. I've also noticed that for whatever reason, inside the alarms menu when I try to set an alarm sound, the drop down menu forces the selection to "Default". Even if I try scroling with the keypad or the wheel, the selection shifts up or down one, then immediately returns to "Default". I'm guessing these two problems are somehow connected, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what the problem is or why it would suddenly afflict both phones, even though I hadn't done anything to mine except answer her call.
I've tried resetting the phone and going through all sorts of options, but nothing seems to make a difference. I can still send and recieve text messages, and the vibrate works just fine. I can even connect to calls, but I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me.
I've looked around online and in this forum, and I only found one instance of someone else complaining about this problem (on a blog with a top 10 list of fixes for Tilt problems), but his plea went unanswered there.
As it is, I couldn't call 911 if I needed to right now, so this is a pretty big problem.
Any ideas? Do I just need to re-flash both phones?

gibberjabber said:
Yesterday I flashed my Tilt and installed the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.03.405.0 ROM. Everything was working just fine. My fiancee liked the new layout and functionality, so I flashed her phone tonight, with the same ROM and everything.
However, from the moment she called my phone from hers to test the new ROM, neither of our phones has played any sound whatsoever. No ringtones, no media files, we can't even here or talk to other people when we make calls. I've also noticed that for whatever reason, inside the alarms menu when I try to set an alarm sound, the drop down menu forces the selection to "Default". Even if I try scroling with the keypad or the wheel, the selection shifts up or down one, then immediately returns to "Default". I'm guessing these two problems are somehow connected, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what the problem is or why it would suddenly afflict both phones, even though I hadn't done anything to mine except answer her call.
I've tried resetting the phone and going through all sorts of options, but nothing seems to make a difference. I can still send and recieve text messages, and the vibrate works just fine. I can even connect to calls, but I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me.
I've looked around online and in this forum, and I only found one instance of someone else complaining about this problem (on a blog with a top 10 list of fixes for Tilt problems), but his plea went unanswered there.
As it is, I couldn't call 911 if I needed to right now, so this is a pretty big problem.
Any ideas? Do I just need to re-flash both phones?
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ouch... this is a pretty easy one and has been answered MANY times... check the thread called "no sound or camera problems... change your radio" so yeah... change your radio.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, but I've searched the exact string you posted, I've tried "No sound" (with and without quotes, and several other combination, and I can't find the thread you're talking about. I'm sorry if this question pops up a lot, I really did spend an hour and a half trying to find the answer before asking. Can you please provide a link or show me why my searches aren't finding the right results?

For what it's worth, I think the poster above was directing me to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
but I'm not %100 sure.

gibberjabber said:
For what it's worth, I think the poster above was directing me to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
but I'm not %100 sure.
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oops... they must have changed the title... it used to be "sound and camera issues: Change your radio" admittadly this new title is more confusing let me know if changing you radio to the recommended one fixes your problem(ignore spelling errors, too tired to care)

Wow.. I've been at this for a while now. I'm starting to understand the whole Radio thing, but I'm having the damnedest time figuring out which radio I should be installing. I've found pages and pages of numbers and names, but what I haven't seen is recommendations or hints towards the HTC 3.03.405.0 ROM's compatibility with the various radios. I've tried changing the radio once so far, but it didn't change any of the issues I"m having.. I'll keep trying (So not looking forward to work tomorrow)

gibberjabber said:
Wow.. I've been at this for a while now. I'm starting to understand the whole Radio thing, but I'm having the damnedest time figuring out which radio I should be installing. I've found pages and pages of numbers and names, but what I haven't seen is recommendations or hints towards the HTC 3.03.405.0 ROM's compatibility with the various radios. I've tried changing the radio once so far, but it didn't change any of the issues I"m having.. I'll keep trying (So not looking forward to work tomorrow)
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listen, you dont have to try every radio individually.... I dont know if your rom is 6.0 or 6.1 but that should start to narrow it down... but worse comes to worse you only have to try 4 different radios... the first 3 numbers are the important ones... after that try the others starting with those numbers to find the best reception/gps fix etc... so try one of each of the
1.27 (if you have 6.0)
or
1.58
1.64
1.65 (if you have 6.1) (which is more likely if this is a new rom)
whatever you do do NOT flash to 1.65.17.10
try those 4 starting with 1.65

Thanks so much for your help and patience with me.
Ok.. this is slowly coming together in my head.
I'm flashing 1.64.08.21 right now, and I'm running WM6.1 on an AT&T Tilt.
And... grr.. still no luck.
Guess I'll have to go without my phone for tomorrow, cause if I don't get some sleep now, I'll probably kill a customer at work.

gibberjabber said:
Thanks so much for your help and patience with me.
Ok.. this is slowly coming together in my head.
I'm flashing 1.64.08.21 right now, and I'm running WM6.1 on an AT&T Tilt.
And... grr.. still no luck.
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try 1.65.20.29... I bet that'll get everything running

hi i believe this is the rom u updated to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
you may find somthing on there to help. it says on there that the radio to use is 1.64.06.04 but if you alredi tried a 1.64 radio and it didnt work try the 1.65 as sugested. If you still have no luck then try a different rom that should fix the no sound issue straight away.
try duttys diamond rom with the 1.65.16.25 radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271
download links are on the page. let us know how it goes.

I tried your suggestions, and althoughth 1.65 radio didn't work, I flashed Dutty's rom and everything is smooth sailing. Thanks SOOOOO much for working with me to figure this out, this really is a fantastic community!

Glad everything worked out for you my friend, everyone here is very helpful if you have any more problems just shout and someone will answer.

Installed 6.5, even slower than before!

We all know how bad Windows 6.1 performed thanks to HTC never providing us with the correct video drivers...
I just installed 6.5 from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
And now my phone is UNBELIEVABLY sluggish, I mean 2 second delays between selections and screen changes...this is pathetic really
I thought people were saying 6.5 was faster
Anybody else have this problem

I don't know any of that. 6.1 was good to me and 6.5 better.
Just because you have problems doesn't mean we do.

You should be posting on TCP's thread. I'm using it and very happy .. in certain aspects, it's faster.
Did you flash OEM before doing this? SPL version and Radio is important too ..

anagarika said:
You should be posting on TCP's thread. I'm using it and very happy .. in certain aspects, it's faster.
Did you flash OEM before doing this? SPL version and Radio is important too ..
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Im Having issues too.

anagarika said:
You should be posting on TCP's thread. I'm using it and very happy .. in certain aspects, it's faster.
Did you flash OEM before doing this? SPL version and Radio is important too ..
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I am a bit curious about that. I unlocked mine with hard-SPL after much fight getting it to run and installed the new radio packed with it and then updated to TCP Elite, and for some reason, the radio is acting up, I can get calls and when I hang up, I get this wierd humming noise even while hung up, afterwards which the phone wont answer calls. (Radio version is 1.70.Olinex, SPL 1.0 Olipof). Also, the camera doesnt work either. Anyone else having any issues with this and if so, what fixed it?

ejectionseatfixer said:
I am a bit curious about that. I unlocked mine with hard-SPL after much fight getting it to run and installed the new radio packed with it and then updated to TCP Elite, and for some reason, the radio is acting up, I can get calls and when I hang up, I get this wierd humming noise even while hung up, afterwards which the phone wont answer calls. (Radio version is 1.70.Olinex, SPL 1.0 Olipof). Also, the camera doesnt work either. Anyone else having any issues with this and if so, what fixed it?
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I would suggest reading the flashing for noobs guide again, as you have a radio that is hacked to unlock the phone and isn't meant to be used everyday, and you have an SPL that is in the exact same boat. Read my sig as to what I have for a Radio and my SPL, they work great for me!

pjcforpres said:
I would suggest reading the flashing for noobs guide again, as you have a radio that is hacked to unlock the phone and isn't meant to be used everyday, and you have an SPL that is in the exact same boat. Read my sig as to what I have for a Radio and my SPL, they work great for me!
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Thanks. I am running what I am running due to having the white screen issue as well as the "rare" (per another thread somewhere) USB connection issue, so the ones I am running are because of all the hassle it took to get the USB to connect. Once I did, I was a little nervous about going much further. Thanks for the updates. I will surely look into it after work.

ejectionseatfixer said:
Thanks. I am running what I am running due to having the white screen issue as well as the "rare" (per another thread somewhere) USB connection issue, so the ones I am running are because of all the hassle it took to get the USB to connect. Once I did, I was a little nervous about going much further. Thanks for the updates. I will surely look into it after work.
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Just flash via SD card... I would upgrade your Hard SPL first, then upgrade your Radio... no need to hard rest after flashing any of those... just follow the sticky guides in the ROM Development forum.