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Is it worth it???

I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?

If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!

yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet

Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.

Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???

hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade

First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!

Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.

Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.

dawa259 said:
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?

There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?

True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.

We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...

I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.

I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.

OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..

I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?

Thatplayboy said:
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.

Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.

It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.

The Wing

I just bought the TMO Wing and i was just curious where does it fall under compared to all the other HTC phones? I thought the wing was a high-end phone until i saw all the other phones HTC makes(Trinity, Atom, Charmer, etc.) So I just wanted to know whether my phone is at the bottom of the list or is it up there? Thanks in advance!!!
Nate

T-Mobile Wing is not HTC Wing. HTC Wing is a smartphone and TMO Wing is a Pocket PC. T-Mobile Wing is pretty good although there are some new PPCs that are better.

Wait what? I don't get it how do i know which phone i got? I got this phone...
http://www.samstores.com/_images/products/wing.jpg
It's a TMO wing but it says HTC on the back so how would I know?

You have the T-Mobile HTC Wing yes. Wings is a nickname for some other HTC Smartphone. Yours is a Pocket PC phone.
Both are made by HTC.
There is no thread for the HTC Wing. They use Herald for the Wing.
Confused Yet?

Ok I think I get it.....so I'm guessing this wouldn't be the right forum to post any questions about my phone?

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Ok I think I get it.....so I'm guessing this wouldn't be the right forum to post any questions about my phone?
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yeah. Find a The Herald forum and you'll be in the right place. It would be nice if the Moderators made and HTC Wing Forum.

nateg1190 said:
I just bought the TMO Wing and i was just curious where does it fall under compared to all the other HTC phones? I thought the wing was a high-end phone until i saw all the other phones HTC makes(Trinity, Atom, Charmer, etc.) So I just wanted to know whether my phone is at the bottom of the list or is it up there? Thanks in advance!!!
Nate
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To Answer your original question -- yes the Wing is High End -- however there are better phones. The Kaiser is better but not whole lot. For the price -- you get what you pay for.

Oh ok thanks a lot, you've been really helpful.

t-mobile wing is in the herald thread
the t-mobile wing is grouped with the herald threads you can find what you need here just search for herald you will find roms for the wing and answers to your questions just read and read some more

Yeah you're right it is the Herald forum, sorry for the miss info. See, I don't even know.

is this the forum for At&T Tilt (AT&T 8925)?

Hi all,
Sorry for the noob question. I just got my AT&T Tilt and I just want to make sure that I am in the right forum. Is this the forum for AT&T Tilt (AT&T 8925)? I've search around, it's either this forum or the Hermes forum. I appreciate anyone points me at the right direction.
Thanks a bunch!

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The 8925 is a Kaiser so you're in the correct forum.

The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.

Thanks....
ceelo2007 & jon_k,
Thank you....awesome!

They should update the names that we call some of these devices so new people can see. Like instead of just 8525 it could be "At&t/Cingular 8525". You know?

heh...
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....

slippy42 said:
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
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The naming conventions for the forums seem to be by HTC development codenames.
XDA-devs deals with many different models of HTC devices which have been re-branded by many different providers and depends on the source and region of your particular device and service.
So this site tends to use the pre-release codenames to refer to all devices of the same general hardware family. Hence the Tilt can be called a TytnII or a Kaiser or a Vario III, 8925...etc... with only minor diffs in hardware/software.

Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)

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Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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its all in the flippin wiki

~~Tito~~ said:
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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To avoid posts from people who are incapable of identifying what device they have. As well as "their" from "there". lol

Ahh, you caught me. . ., also there already is .
*I* know there is a wiki but do others?

Maybe they know but there not sure if it's over they're -------> or over their <------.

My opinion is that these forums are pretty technical, and if you can't properly identify your model, you probably don't belong here. I know from my expertise in Motorola modding that I have been PM'ed countless times by 12 year old kids that decided they were going to mod, hex edit, or flash their phone, bricked it, and then PM'ed me for a magical fix before their parents found out.
-Jay

Kaiser Tilt diffference
jon_k said:
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
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Other than the name differential, I believe the Euro Kaiser has a camera on the front as well as the back for "video call". The tilt has the regular one in the back.

looking for help
hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....

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hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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Search, and when you need help then post a thread. . .

is my t-mobile wing a s730 or an Atlas?

I have an older version of touch-it i got off the wings thread, after like 20 hours of reading, and have used it ever since. Now i am back to reading countless threads, and come to the realization i have a htc atlas*t-mobile wing, and wonder if i am in the right categories for software and things. I have been happy with the rom i have installed off this category except wonder if my phone has more potential because i might not of been reading the right category for my specific phone. I have never had video working on my phone is one thing i wonder if others have. I would love any help. I do have some questions if possible, i have not just jumped in and not try understanding myself.
if anyone is willing to point me in the right direction or have a conversation on the purple T-mobile Wing, *HTC Atlas or whatever that would be sweet!

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=756
is my specific phone. does that mean there is limitations to which .roms I am using? I am ready to upgrade the os on it... its HTC 4350 Atlas - Aka T-mobile Wing...
installed coreplayer to no avail as well... thanks for reading

I dont remember what the T-mobile wing is called, but its not the S730.
Since this is the wrong forum for the T-Mobile Wing we cant offer too much help there is a forum on XDA for your phone, but I am on my phone and digging that up right now would take a while
If you got the rom for your phone off of this forum it is possible aspects of it are running less than your phone could run them at but I would only see that being a driver issue instead of Rom issue.

What's The Next Logical Step.......

When I upgrade / change my Kaiser?
Don't get me wrong, I love my device, but I feel a chance is needed. I like the Touch HD but atm, it's only on Orange who's (IMHO) Tarrifs suck compaired to what I'm getting now. The other option is a Touch Pro.....
I also want to get rid of my piece of junk e65, I hate it, this will be changed it a wm mobile as soon as the contract runs out, again, any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

The next step
Allen Mead said:
When I upgrade / change my Kaiser
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Is posting in an already existing thread relating to phone choices such as this one (or many others) If you were in the market today would you still buy Kaiser based? to help reduce clutter/multiple threads about the same thing.

Sorry chap missed that one