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[Q] Fennec Alpha

So fennec went alpha this week and wanted to know if anyone tried it yet?I've tried to use it but it keeps crashing, has anyone had this issue?

As much as I like firefox, I'll not get this until they trim this chubby app down some. 31mb?
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got me some hot froyo on hero action here!

couldnt get this app to work either and the size is crazy if u want a different browser try OPERA thats pretty good if ur looking for some fast net or just wait for a better realese
WOW mY English is Atrocious

Yea I like opera but don't like that you can't really download stuff from it. But yea wanted to try out fennec to see how it runs but it's a no go so kinda disappointment.....eh

Actually, Fennec's quite a few good ideas, expecially for Firefox users. I mean, it can syncs your open tabs (the ones you left open at home before leaving!), bookmarks, search history and site access infos (so you won't type those old pass/user you can't even remember).
Moreover, you get plugins... not a big amount of them available, but this could just a matter of time if this catches up; and tab management is on par with Android browser's.
Main downside is related to page render speed and program open, they just fail before Android stock browser (which I think is quite awesome, I have to admit it, in terms of performances and compatibility).
Definitively still a "to keep an eye on" project, though.

just installed the app, but it wont even open

Junk
I find it unbelievable that this has even been considered for a release to anyone!
After several attempts to install, I finally got this bloated mess to work, slowly and with no features that haven't been done better elsewhere.
I was truely expecting more, Firefox and Thunderbird have become bad enough lately, with this rubbish Mozilla have scored 3 out of three.

Haven't tried this alpha yet, but I played around with an older Version. I also tried the WinMo version and I can tell you that Fennec on Android is much better than the WinMo version. On my HD2(running Froyo) it installed without problems and it didn't crash. But because the UI had no priority over the webpage rendering it wasn't really usable. But I think I read somewhere that in this alpha the UI has priority, so when I can I will give it a try again. But the only reason for using Fennec are the sync features.

You people should READ THE SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS before commenting on whether things are good or not. It CLEARLY states that MSM720xA based phones are NOT COMPATIBLE. Regarding the one who managed to partially get it working.... I don't believe you.
Specifically, the program is built for ARMv7 instruction set. YOUR PHONE SUPPORTS UP TO ARMv6 instruction set ONLY.
To put this very simply.... the program is NOT COMPATIBLE [yet].

lbcoder said:
You people should READ THE SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS before commenting on whether things are good or not. It CLEARLY states that MSM720xA based phones are NOT COMPATIBLE. Regarding the one who managed to partially get it working.... I don't believe you.
Specifically, the program is built for ARMv7 instruction set. YOUR PHONE SUPPORTS UP TO ARMv6 instruction set ONLY.
To put this very simply.... the program is NOT COMPATIBLE [yet].
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There are nightly builds, which work on Armv6.
I have it running, on a HTC Magic.
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/nightly/latest-mozilla-central-android-r7-nothumb/
The main deal breakers are that it takes forever to load and that the GUI doesn't scale and all the buttons are too big.
Finally:
Coming from my standpoint, that really didn't call for caps, as what you believed and clearly read into the announcement didn't eventuate anyway.
I am positively glad about that, I hope you are too xD. So far Armv6 isn't going to be left behind (all too far).

20100905 fennec works on hd2- arm 7
Hi,
Fennec seems to work on HD2 (an ARM 7 device).
Not sure I like the rendering of pages like xda-developers.com - but it works.
Seems like it has potential.
newowner

Definitely has a potencial, but it's too slow and so not usable for normal android experience...waiting for beta release

works on the vibrant but very very laggy. UI is ugly but simple to use.

Milestone ram management is horrible?

Im on got 2.2 but this happened to me with 2.1 too, is really annoying, multitasking is not executed well, my programs keep closing :/ 70-80% of the times i press the home button while im playing music+using the browser+using trillian or behive launcher pro loads the whole homescreen and widgets :/ , if switch to the browser, it reloads the websites or loads the homepage , am i doing something wrong?
i tought 256 mb wasnt that horrible for a smartphone

i blame android.
i was ok with my phone til the last week. i got an ipod touch 4g. 256mb only on that one and people complained it was a neutered iphone but damn it smokes my milestone in day to day tasks. granted it can't make a call, but im pretty pissed that android still lacks the optimization we need.

Chad_Petree said:
Im on got 2.2 but this happened to me with 2.1 too, is really annoying, multitasking is not executed well, my programs keep closing :/ 70-80% of the times i press the home button while im playing music+using the browser+using trillian or behive launcher pro loads the whole homescreen and widgets :/ , if switch to the browser, it reloads the websites or loads the homepage , am i doing something wrong?
i tought 256 mb wasnt that horrible for a smartphone
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Same thing happened to me on 2.2 but on 2.1 it runs very smooth... Try "Keep in memory" setting from Launcher Pro --> Preferences

is there any method to optimize the ram usage of android. i thought that a milestone is better then iphone, i still think it is,but if the android system dont get better, iphone will smoke all of us in the pipe.
the first thing i noticed when i holded my milestone in my hands was, damn is it fast and brilliant, better then the iphone, the same day i started modding and overclocking and things like that. i gave him a little too much vsel, .... and since then i think it has gotten slower :/ , maybe some of you had the same expirience

Guys, please consider the fact, that google has to optimize their OS for different smartphone setups from different manufacturers ... the iOS featured in the iPhone and iPod Touch has been completely optimized on their hardware, since iOS isnt featured outside the apple family of handhelds. Because of this, the optimisation and integration is WAY more comfortable, Google has a ****load of work to do to consider the many different phones besides their nexus one.
give it time guys. MIUI handles the memory management already pretty good, runs way more responsive that stock android.

It's problem of the apps and widget you are using, download a app call system pannel, you will find out many apps and widget take up so many ram.
and 2.2 got leak have a problem which make the launcher redraw so often.
for launcher pro, there is an options to keep it in memory.

vladstercr said:
Same thing happened to me on 2.2 but on 2.1 it runs very smooth... Try "Keep in memory" setting from Launcher Pro --> Preferences
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i just checked that option, it says its experimental tough , theres a couple of exta ptins:
memory usage preset: high,mediu,moderate,low...
homescreen cache type: normal compressed,light
Should i mess with this setings too?

Try4Ce said:
Guys, please consider the fact, that google has to optimize their OS for different smartphone setups from different manufacturers ... the iOS featured in the iPhone and iPod Touch has been completely optimized on their hardware, since iOS isnt featured outside the apple family of handhelds. Because of this, the optimisation and integration is WAY more comfortable, Google has a ****load of work to do to consider the many different phones besides their nexus one.
give it time guys. MIUI handles the memory management already pretty good, runs way more responsive that stock android.
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piss poor excuse. there's not much rocket science going into optimizing a homescreen smoothness.
The A4 chip the iPhone 4 uses is more similar to a Samsung Hummingbird.
The OMAP chip the 3GS uses is similar to the one we have in the Droid/Milestone.
The old ARM11 chips in the 2G/3G/iPod Touch 1g/2G/3g 8gb is different too.
The fact is Apple has accounted for 3 types of CPUs and while they are all ARM architecture, it's similar to the fact we have Qualcomm, TI, and Samsung CPUs floating around. Even Google's own Nexus One is piss poor smooth on the homescreen.
Granted here at XDA we've already ROMed the hell out of our phones, but the fact that I'm still ashamed when I whip out my Milestone just to show my friends Facebook, and they ALWAYS comment on how choppy it is despite my 1100mhz overclock or whatever. I'll even reboot just before hanging out with them just in case I need to do some stuff. Android is just too freaking slow.

i am using cronos froyo 1.5 and i must say i am suprised, it is a good rom, fast and stabil,and trust me i testes many roms, maybe all?
so is there a way of modifing a rom (maybe cronos) to get rid of all the services that are not needed for a normal user? maybe it would be more ram available this way... aint it?

I think that 256 mb ram are enough. Try eclair mod v0.3b. It is very fast and i get about 110mb free ram. I use Advanced task killer and Estrong task manager. I have them both on my homescreen and when i tap them both I get 110mb ram free.

ram
the task killer is an option i dont want to use, because android should manage that him self, but maybe tere are some services that are not needed, so we can delete them, and make a slim rom. do someone know what services are not needed, and how we can wipe them?

Granted here at XDA we've already ROMed the hell out of our phones, but the fact that I'm still ashamed when I whip out my Milestone just to show my friends Facebook, and they ALWAYS comment on how choppy it is despite my 1100mhz overclock or whatever. I'll even reboot just before hanging out with them just in case I need to do some stuff. Android is just too freaking slow.
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Ha ha I have to do that exact same thing, so embarrassing as it always happens just after I've sung praises for Android!

Yriel40k said:
I think that 256 mb ram are enough. Try eclair mod v0.3b. It is very fast and i get about 110mb free ram. I use Advanced task killer and Estrong task manager. I have them both on my homescreen and when i tap them both I get 110mb ram free.
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On milestone? Don't believe it. Pleas post some screenshots so I can be amazed

As Milestone has really terrible hardware spec (cpu, ram, flash) I am still hoping someone would start to build ultra-lite version of the android without any non-essential services running, applications on flash, launchers, wallpapers, etc.
Regarding the multitasking - yes when I try to open second app I am holding my breath whether the first one will get killed or will survive

IMO it was depend on which rom u were used.

Try live home for launcher its pretty fast and handles multitasking
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App

Do you use any weather and clock widgets-if yes there is a option called refresh when home is pressed you disable it and your screen would come alive much faster.
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I have never be success on milestone, always restarting

I would say it probably more have to do with Motorola for not taking the effort to optimize Android's software for the Milestone, my friend X8 is smoother than mine despite having only 168MB(!) of RAM and he used live wallpapers too. 2.2 also for some reason seems to be very sluggish as compared to 2.1/2.3
Anyway I also believe that because of our higher resolution screen (854 x 480), more RAM is needed as more resource is needed for greater resolution and phones usually reserved more RAM (slightly) for connectivity purposes (cell tower) which lead to a "shortage" of free RAM on our milestone.
Though no doubt, I would say iOS have a slightly better memory management than Android but Android is not that bad given that the Nexus One prior to 2.2/2.3, the amount of RAM available for them is 40mb less than Milestone due to a bug but it still flies. Shows alot that effort to optimize by the OEMs matter more rather than Android itself.

Opera mobile 11 /w flash

Anyone try the new opera mobile 11. it now supports flash.
If so does it work on stock rooted?
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Stock rom doesn't support flash so no. It will now show you the preview image, and if you click through to youtube and press play there it'll play the video in your youtube app.
It also recognizes it's on a tablet, and shows a different interface than the one for the phone.

Personally I love the new opera, I'm using it as my daily web browser. That's saying alot considering how good dolphin HD is.

I've tried Opera Mobile 11, Firefox 4 RC, and various reskinnings of the default browser (Miren, Dolphin, and stock). Opera Mobile 11 seems by far the smoothest, apparently due to hardware acceleration. Scrolling/panning, pinch zooming, etc., are smooth as silk, similar to what you'd see on an iPad. None of the WebKit-based browsers are that smooth, presumably because they don't yet feature hardware acceleration (at least on the NC?). Firefox 4 RC looks okay but doesn't yet have Flash. I think I may make Opera may daily driver for a bit and see how it does with the various sites I visit.
UPDATE: After playing with Opera 11 for a while, I'll go so far as to say that everyone should try the New York Times Web site with Opera 11 in landscape orientation. That, to me, is what tablet browsing is all about! VERY impressive!

Sorry for asking this. Which fingerprint do you use? I can only find Opera mini, but not opera mobile in the market. any pointers would be great.

cheezer38 said:
Sorry for asking this. Which fingerprint do you use? I can only find Opera mini, but not opera mobile in the market. any pointers would be great.
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Even I didn't find opera mobile in market....So i went to opera website thru nook browser (I am using cm7 sd card bootable), went to download page, selected android devices. Here you get option to download opera mini or mobile....
Download mobile and enjoy
I am loving it......

Opera = no Javascript = pass!

akarol said:
Opera = no Javascript = pass!
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Where did you hear that? Opera Mobile has a very good JavaScript engine.

I've been testing Opera and a few things bug me:
A) Panning up and down the page doesn't "lock" the motion to that axis so that it only moves up/down like every other Android browser does. So the page moves around on BOTH axes (up/down/left/right) and even looks weird as it jitters (or "vibrates") left/right when you only mean to move up/down. In every other browser, when you start panning in one motion, it locks the movement to that axis, which makes for a smoother motion (and rarely do you need to move on both axes, which is why this is implemented).
B) Long pressing on a link doesn't show the URL. Sometimes I'm reading an article and want to see what a link goes to without opening a page. In Opera Mobile, there's no way to do that.
C) I find tab switching to be slower and more tedious than in Dolphin, where the only action needed is a single tap on a tab. Whereas in Opera, you need to tap the (frustratingly small) tabs button, tap the tab you want, and then tap out of it to get rid of the pop-out.
That being said, the re-flow option is much better in Opera than Dolphin. It re-flows the text immediately after zooming, every time. Very helpful.

opera:config, uncheck "Scoll is Pan" in User Prefs, helps a little bit with the vertical scroll lock problem.

The only real issue I've found so far is that it's kind of hard to close a tab. I tap the "X" on the tab but most of the time nothing happens, or if something does happen, there's a LONG delay. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong? I have my LCD density set to 200 so perhaps the UI isn't properly adjusting for that (even though everything looks right cosmetically)?

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The only real issue I've found so far is that it's kind of hard to close a tab. I tap the "X" on the tab but most of the time nothing happens, or if something does happen, there's a LONG delay. Any idea if I'm doing something wrong? I have my LCD density set to 200 so perhaps the UI isn't properly adjusting for that (even though everything looks right cosmetically)?
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I had the same issue. Found out tapping the X button twice did the trick. Best browser I've tried.

victle said:
I had the same issue. Found out tapping the X button twice did the trick. Best browser I've tried.
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Just tried that and it works perfectly! Thanks!

Thanks for the tip. This is the best browser yet for the Nook in my view. Quick, accurate (pinching, dragging) and no fuss. I'm running it on a CM7 SD card build and it's fast. Flash works. A question, however: I know Flash works because I use Flash for our site and checked it there. However, going to HBO.com (wanted to grab some Flash video to see what happened) it tells me that my device is not Flash enabled -- so won't let me connect with Flash. ????????????????????

Regarding panning, zooming, etc., I found version 11 to be far worse than 10.1 Beta. Whereas it was iPhone/iPad-like buttery smooth with 10.1 Beta, it's now become choppy with 11 like every other Android browser. I can really tell the difference on graphics-heavy pages like espn or engadget. With 10.1 Beta, panning/zooming on images was silk smooth even while the cpu was busy loading the rest of the page; now with 11, that's not the case.
Ironically though, Web pages load much, much faster (in their entirety) with 11 compared to 10.1 Beta.

OMG, I just installed this a few moments ago... can't believe how fast this thing is! It's as fast as the iPad browser on a rooted. stock Nook. running stock clock speed. Gentlemen, I have found my new browser. End of story.

I don't find it to be as tablet-friendly as the stock HC browser, but it does seem to be very good in terms of performance
Most importantly I can now watch youtube videos on my nook even with HC. Wowza thanks for the tip!

rabid_droid said:
Regarding panning, zooming, etc., I found version 11 to be far worse than 10.1 Beta. Whereas it was iPhone/iPad-like buttery smooth with 10.1 Beta, it's now become choppy with 11 like every other Android browser. I can really tell the difference on graphics-heavy pages like espn or engadget. With 10.1 Beta, panning/zooming on images was silk smooth even while the cpu was busy loading the rest of the page; now with 11, that's not the case.
Ironically though, Web pages load much, much faster (in their entirety) with 11 compared to 10.1 Beta.
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Funny, i am the opposite. For me, this is the first browser in CM7 that lets me view pages like Engadget with good fluidity....

It's also the first I've found that handles xda with any level of fluidity

Animec said:
It's also the first I've found that handles xda with any level of fluidity
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Same here, I thought I was the only one that noticed. Switched to Opera Mini 10, then back to Dolphin Mini 2 because page rendering more livable, now back to Opera Mobile 11 because of speed, although I still hate how vertical scrolling a pain on long pages.

[APP][UPDATE 2.7.12]FireFox 12 Alpha 1

Im testing firefox11alpha 2
Its fast and very smooth even smoother than stock ICS browser at times
lots of feature like syncing your desktop firefox bookmarks with mobile Device, addons, Flash support
Remember its still alpha not beta but should be beta soon seems really stable so far
also firefox alpha builds are codenamed Aurora in case you get confused with the app name
test youtube desktop view on both browsers firefox was really smooth were stock lagged
Download link
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....a-android/fennec-12.0a2.en-US.android-arm.apk
if link above goes down or want to check for latest alpha build
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android#Download_Aurora
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updated to 12

It's still horrible for me. Here's why:
I can't get any add-ons to work because they aren't updated...that's to be expected since this is an alpha...but even the ones that are updated, like ab+ aren't installing.
many pages take FOREVER to load, and the ones that do load don't load the whole page.
If I scroll down on a long page, the rest of the page loads, but the top of the page will unload.
Text takes forever to become clear enough to read, and text reflowing takes even longer.
The tab button only works once out of every dozen or so times I press it.
aurora constantly runs in the background unless I freeze the app, and it's killing my ram.
Until every single one of these issues is fixed, I won't even consider using this at all....not even as an alternative. It's really sad to see that the top-dog on PC is so horrible on mobile, because all the potential is there...they just can't understand that most people don't have 80MB extra ram on their android to dedicate to web browsing!!

this is a huge leap in the right direction compared to previous mobile versions
Its alpha so expect things to be ironed out eventually
Everything loads fast and refresh fine for me (im using wifi)
I did noticed it uses almost double resources than stock browser but still its alpha
desktop firefox they significantly drop the ram usage im sure they will do the same with this
also yea one thing i noticed is when page refresh when swiping fast on long pages im sure it will be fixed doesn't really bother me it pretty much refreshes instantly
and yea i noticed it still runs in background and with the resources is uses it could be a problem for some people
I have 185 ram open i just go to recent app and swipe it away it will close

Bump new alpha 12

I don't know why firefox seems destined to suck on mobile devices when it's so good on PC's. Every version I've tried has just been so far behind its mobile counterparts that it's just sad.
Mozilla should take some pointers from the new Chrome beta - I just started using Chrome on my Nexus and it is an amazingly fast and smooth browser that also offers desktop sync.

Perfect for pc. Still trash for mobile.

Discussion : which browser are you using?

It's mostly a battle between Chrome, Firefox and Opera but, maybe you tried a more obscure browser and it work great for you? I loved the old AOSP browser because it was light on memory and ressources but it's not being maintained anymore and using it pose a security risk. Google Chrome has all the bells and whistle and it support pretty much everything but it's also memory hungry, it eat so much memory that other app in the background are dropped out of your memory to make place for Chrome. It leads us to Firefox, it support less thing but, memory usage is not too bad. Opera is also good.

I've tried quite a few and keep coming back to Firefox.
I don't really have a reason why as I suspect it's a tad slower than most and I see it pretty high on the battery usage on my tablet but it's always just been my "go-to" browser.
I had used Dolphin too for a long time and I can't remember why I stopped. I think it might've been that I didn't like the differences between the tablet and phone interfaces. I am apparently quite fussy.

koimr said:
I've tried quite a few and keep coming back to Firefox.
I had used Dolphin too for a long time and I can't remember why I stopped. I think it might've been that I didn't like the differences between the tablet and phone interfaces. I am apparently quite fussy.
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I may give a try to CAF Chromium browser, it's a Chrome fork compiled with optimization for Qualcomm devices. I'll try it and see if it's better on memory usage. My main complaint with Chrome is that, it eat as much memory as it can, then other apps in the background are forced out of RAM. So, when you want to open other apps, they have to be completely reloaded instead of just restarting them from RAM. Also, I'm fussy too...

Firefox. My beloved (and needed) extensions work on Android. And it's synchronized with my desktop too.

Chromium
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Firefox i use linux on laptop so both phone and laptop are coordinated

Been using Dolphin for a couple of years. The main initial reason was the cookies/browsing data clearing is only one swipe and click away when browsing, super handy as I read a newspaper every day which only allows 10 free articles a month lol. Clear data, instantly ready for another 10 articles.

Been a fan of Opera since my first Android phone

Used NoChromo for a while (built in adblocking) but now back to using opera mini or lightning. Use lightning with java script turned off, which makes for a super fast browser. Generally breaks discussion/commenting and some page navigation. But works equally well with java script turned on and is very lightweight.
Find chrome is far too resource hungry and I really don't like the firefox tab interface.

Most of popular like chrome, Firefox, Dolphin are good performer.... Depends upon your needs and usage..... But I am big fan of uc browser and using it for a long time... Better in memory management... Has in built ad blocker.... Its to had limited addons support.... Also has Flash compatability.... Most under rated browser of the store but works like butter for me switching tabs also easiest.... Give it a shot....

Nico3d3 said:
It's mostly a battle between Chrome, Firefox and Opera but, maybe you tried a more obscure browser and it work great for you? I loved the old AOSP browser because it was light on memory and ressources but it's not being maintained anymore and using it pose a security risk. Google Chrome has all the bells and whistle and it support pretty much everything but it's also memory hungry, it eat so much memory that other app in the background are dropped out of your memory to make place for Chrome. It leads us to Firefox, it support less thing but, memory usage is not too bad. Opera is also good.
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Using uc browser for browsing fb and downloading while chrome for browsing every other site.
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I have had good luck with Maxthon. I prefer a older version of it though.
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Previously using dolphin but now using ghostery as my main browser

I'm using Boat Browser as it looks great, is stable and fast and has support (PRO) for Firefox account, so I can easily check my PC bookmarks from Waterfox.
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Try Browser (Chromium) from XDA LABS, it is optimized to qualcomm devices, works perrrrrrrfect and fast

M46 build from 19.12.2015 is the newest one?

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Try Browser (Chromium) from XDA LABS, it is optimized to qualcomm devices, works perrrrrrrfect and fast
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Already tried CAF-Chromium, yes it's faster than official Google Chrome but there was still bugs and lags preventing me from using it as a daily driver. Sometimes, web pages get stuck and the app become totally unresponsive and I had to do a force close. For now, I'm back with Opera, not too bloated it's light on memory and it has all the features I need.

Using Firefox because I like the way it works. Interface is, to me, the best of the bunch and all in all it has the best performance. Used Opera a lot but had a lot of excellent | horrible experiences with it. That is, sometimes it was great but often things would not render properly or it would die. Chrome has generally been slower than FF for a couple years now and FF has been much more stable. Chrome blocks much more.
I just want a browser that doesn't make me care about which one I am using. FF is that. It just works.
Also, it gives me more control over crap like webrtc.

I mostly use Opera mini as it loads page faster, it saves data, it consume less memory, and second choice is puffin Web browser it's lighting fast I bet. It supports flash, and had many more advantages.

I always go back to Firefox. I need adblock. I've already accepted annoying ads in apps. So blocking adds in the browser is at least some satisfaction.
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